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Technocracy: Not just your same old Commie vs. Capitalist thing.

Ekland
11-12-2005, 23:14
I was just in the "What Is Your Preferred Form Of Government?" and noticed the Technocracy option. While I have heard of it I will admit that I did not know a great deal about it (and I still don't). Lately I have been musing about the potential course and eventual failure of Capitalistic society. It will naturally go the way of Bartering, Feudalism, Mercantilism and the like and if I estimate right it will do so because of technological advancement. So, intrigued by if nothing else the name, I did a Wiki search on it and did a little reading. Fascinating stuff but I am certainly skeptical on it. Read up and tell me your thoughts; it sounds like an innately superior version of something resembling Communism and an evolutionary descendant of Capitalism to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocratic_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy-credit
http://www.technocracy.org/?p=/home
Empryia
11-12-2005, 23:18
I was just in the "What Is Your Preferred Form Of Government?" and noticed the Technocracy option. While I have heard of it I will admit that I did not know a great deal about it (and I still don't). Lately I have been musing about the potential course and eventual failure of Capitalistic society. It will naturally go the way of Bartering, Feudalism, Mercantilism and the like and if I estimate right it will do so because of technological advancement. So, intrigued by if nothing else the name, I did a Wiki search on it and did a little reading. Fascinating stuff but I am certainly skeptical on it. Read up and tell me your thoughts; it sounds like an innately superior version of something resembling Communism and an evolutionary descendant of Capitalism to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocratic_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy-credit
http://www.technocracy.org/?p=/home

Sorry, Capitalism won't go the way of Bartering and Mercantilism. Because, if you ever took a history or economics class, you should've learned that Bartering and Mercantilism are integral parts of Capitalism. Capitalism is an ever evolving system.

Unlike the self-defeating, against human nature, economic system of Communism. But wait, I can just here it now: "One-hundred years of failure means nothing!"

Even China gets it. Communism is an ideal. And ideals can't stand up to tried and true realities.
The Soviet Americas
12-12-2005, 00:02
Unlike the self-defeating, against human nature, economic system of Communism. But wait, I can just here it now: "One-hundred years of failure means nothing!"

Even China gets it. Communism is an ideal. And ideals can't stand up to tried and true realities.
Did someone hear a sheep bleating?
Ekland
12-12-2005, 00:15
Sorry, Capitalism won't go the way of Bartering and Mercantilism. Because, if you ever took a history or economics class, you should've learned that Bartering and Mercantilism are integral parts of Capitalism. Capitalism is an ever evolving system.

Unlike the self-defeating, against human nature, economic system of Communism. But wait, I can just here it now: "One-hundred years of failure means nothing!"

Even China gets it. Communism is an ideal. And ideals can't stand up to tried and true realities.

I'm aware that Capitalism is an ever evolving system; my point is that it will eventually evolve into something else and Technocracy may very well be next in line.

Ironically, China is run by Technocrats. Technocrats riding the previous systems totalitarian system yes, but most of the actual rulers are scientists, engineers and the like.

I'm a capitalist, I agree that without an absolute abundance of well, everything, anything like communism is hopeless. Technology now or in the future may very well offer abundance.
Letila
12-12-2005, 00:33
I doubt technocracy will ever really catch on, which I consider to be a good thing. If, by any chance it receives a significant enough following, I suspect it will be tried and fail miserably, much like Marxism has in the 20th century. The whole idea is quite bankrupt IMO.

It really embodies a number of trends that I find very disturbing in modern society. One being the replacement of religion by logic as the justification for social stratification, oppression, and so forth. Religion at least allows for the irrational while logic is coldly calculating. A society run by technology, science, and logic strikes me as a dismal future for humanity.
Heron-Marked Warriors
12-12-2005, 00:37
Did someone hear a sheep bleating?

Yes. When the commies entered.