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Doesn't he play for Baltimore now? I said good team.

Sorry to hijack this thread completely.

No, he's the Number 3 in Indy. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4755)

EDIT: I think this thread deserves a nice Hijack.

For the record, I'm a starting wide receiver in the NFL and I have doctorates in quantum mechanics and theoretical dynamics.

You told me you were a QB. :(

No, he's the Number 3 in Indy. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4755)

EDIT: I think this thread deserves a nice Hijack.

Well, I'm not Stokley.

In the meantime, however, don't feel too badly about this. You have done me a favour, because I now realise that I don't have time to spend arguing on message-boards with intellectually under-powered right-wing Americans.

Goodbye.Hm. Another one bites the dust. Well, at least there's plenty of arrogant-yet-sensetive posters to go round these days.

Well, I'm not Stokley.

Ricky Proehl?

well I'm still here :)

well I'm still here :)
What a relief.

Oh, so you're not a real doctor then...

You might be surprised at how well educated some of us are.

I'm sure that many of you are.

However, if you consider Edwards to be a reliable source of substantive and theoretical material I would question your concept of 'education'. His book about nuclear weapons was a big flop, by the way - banal, descriptive, atheoretical, politically biased to the right and usually way down the reading lists on most modules - as was his academic career, and he ended up working somewhere in the Civil Service, if I remember correctly. His support for limited nuclear warfare was frighteningly stupid and ill-informed. An intellectual pygmy, if there ever was one, in keeping with most of the 'thinkers' on the right, from Hayek and Rand onwards.

To be quite candid with you, I find the American Right to be consistently stupid - dangerously so, in fact. Now, if you don't mind, old chap, I'll just toddle off, get on with some real work and let some of the properly educated people around here deal with you - or 'take you apart', as I believe you Yanks prefer to put it.

Between them, these bloody religious and free-market nutcases will kill us all ......

I'm sure that many of you are.

However, if you consider Edwards to be a reliable source of substantive and theoretical material I would question your concept of 'education'. His book about nuclear weapons was a big flop, by the way - banal, descriptive, atheoretical, politically biased to the right and usually way down the reading lists on most modules - as was his academic career, and he ended up working somewhere in the Civil Service, if I remember correctly. His support for limited nuclear warfare was frighteningly stupid and ill-informed. An intellectual pygmy, if there ever was one, in keeping with most of the 'thinkers' on the right, from Hayek and Rand onwards.

To be quite candid with you, I find the American Right to be consistently stupid - dangerously so, in fact. Now, if you don't mind, old chap, I'll just toddle off, get on with some real work and let some of the properly educated people around here deal with you - or 'take you apart', as I believe you Yanks prefer to put it.

Between them, these bloody religious and free-market nutcases will kill us all ......
*cough* in my day, if a man said goodbye, he left. *cough*

*cough* in my day, if a man said goodbye, he left. *cough*

Am I the only one doubting this guy's credentials?

*cough* in my day, if a man said goodbye, he left. *cough*
There's a shortage of perfect gentlemen these days.

Am I the only one doubting this guy's credentials?
Are you doubting mine, or Glutopia's? I assure you that I have no, even remotely adequate, qualifications.
If you were referring to Glutopia, the big give away was that he didn't mention which University.

Are you doubting mine, or Glutopia's? I assure you that I have no, even remotely adequate, qualifications.
If you were referring to Glutopia, the big give away was that he didn't mention which University.

I know you have no credentials, for you are a dumbass. Just like me.:D

No, I doubt Glutopia's credentials.

Oh, so you're not a real doctor then...

You might be surprised at how well educated some of us are.

I'm sure that many of you are.

However, if you consider Edwards to be a reliable source of substantive and theoretical material I would question your concept of 'education'. His book about nuclear weapons was a big flop, by the way - banal, descriptive, atheoretical, politically biased to the right and usually way down the reading lists on most modules - as was his academic career, and he ended up working somewhere in the Civil Service, if I remember correctly. His support for limited nuclear warfare was frighteningly stupid and ill-informed. An intellectual pygmy, if there ever was one, in keeping with most of the 'thinkers' on the right, from Hayek and Rand onwards.

To be quite candid with you, I find the American Right to be consistently stupid - dangerously so, in fact. Now, if you don't mind, old chap, I'll just toddle off, get on with some real work and let some of the properly educated people around here deal with you - or 'take you apart', as I believe you Yanks prefer to put it.

Between them, these bloody religious and free-market nutcases will kill us all ......

I know you have no credentials, for you are a dumbass. Just like me.:D

No, I doubt Glutopia's credentials.

Oh, I'll get credentials, currently I'm only 14 though.

I'm sure that many of you are.

However, if you consider Edwards to be a reliable source of substantive and theoretical material I would question your concept of 'education'. His book about nuclear weapons was a big flop, by the way - banal, descriptive, atheoretical, politically biased to the right and usually way down the reading lists on most modules - as was his academic career, and he ended up working somewhere in the Civil Service, if I remember correctly. His support for limited nuclear warfare was frighteningly stupid and ill-informed. An intellectual pygmy, if there ever was one, in keeping with most of the 'thinkers' on the right, from Hayek and Rand onwards.

To be quite candid with you, I find the American Right to be consistently stupid - dangerously so, in fact. Now, if you don't mind, old chap, I'll just toddle off, get on with some real work and let some of the properly educated people around here deal with you - or 'take you apart', as I believe you Yanks prefer to put it.

Between them, these bloody religious and free-market nutcases will kill us all ......


As I recall, I was discussing "no first use" and "nuclear threshold".

Wrote a book myself, on the implications of Presidential Directive 59, and its impact on the outcome of the Cold War.

Anyone can write a book. And a lot of people who are brainless become professors. Here on NS, it matters little what your background might be, especially if your method of argument is "I'm so smart I impress myself".

- banal, descriptive, atheoretical, politically biased to the right and usually way down the reading lists on most modules

Well as we all know, the haulmark of intellectual legitimacy is how high on the university coursework reading lists your book is. :rolleyes: Indeed, I judge ideas solely upon how many times they are mentioned during the first three years of the political science curriculum. (Why do they call it science anyway? It has nothing to do with science)

Hayek

Yes, just dismiss one of the most influential thinkers of the 20th century, but whatever.

To be quite candid with you, I find the American Right to be consistently stupid - dangerously so, in fact. Now, if you don't mind, old chap, I'll just toddle off, get on with some real work and let some of the properly educated people around here deal with you - or 'take you apart', as I believe you Yanks prefer to put it.

Between them, these bloody religious and free-market nutcases will kill us all ......

Definitely a sociology student at Northumbria. When you next get punched in the face, or glassed, by a real geordie, just remember it's for acting this way, so you probably deserve it.

Oh, I'll get credentials, currently I'm only 14 though.

Sure... And then I will steal them. And hide them. And sit on them. And make them smell.

As I recall, I was discussing "no first use" and "nuclear threshold".

Wrote a book myself, on the implications of Presidential Directive 59, and its impact on the outcome of the Cold War.

Anyone can write a book. And a lot of people who are brainless become professors. Here on NS, it matters little what your background might be, especially if your method of argument is "I'm so smart I impress myself".

Even more brainless people are clearly just speaking bollocks and pretending to be professors. I think the faux Englishness made it quite clear he was joking.

Well as we all know, the haulmark of intellectual legitimacy is how high on the university coursework reading lists your book is. :rolleyes: Indeed, I judge ideas solely upon how many times they are mentioned during the first three years of the political science curriculum. (Why do they call it science anyway? It has nothing to do with science)


I thought that what made your book credible was that it was published, and you didn't pay for the printing. And that more than 100,000 people bought it without being forced to buy it as part of the class reading list.

Sure... And then I will steal them. And hide them. And sit on them. And make them smell.
And then I'll put my hand under your bottom and you'll feel uncomfortable and I'll get my credentials back.

Even more brainless people are clearly just speaking bollocks and pretending to be professors. I think the faux Englishness made it quite clear he was joking.

What, you mean the English DON'T use "jolly good" and "old chap" every other word!

My world is shaken!!!

And then I'll put my hand under your bottom and you'll feel uncomfortable and I'll get my credentials back.

Boy, I never feel uncomfortable when someone's hand is under my bottom...

What, you mean the English DON'T use "jolly good" and "old chap" every other word!

My world is shaken!!!

Old chap, if jolly good English old chap people jolly good said old chap jolly jolly good good jolly good and old chap old jolly good chap old chap every jolly good odd old chap word jolly good it old chap would jolly good be old chap difficult jolly good to old chap speak.

Old chap, if jolly good English old chap people jolly good said jolly old chap good jolly good and old chap old jolly good chap old chap every jolly good odd old chap word jolly good it old chap would jolly good be old chap difficult jolly good to old chap speak.

That's better...

I thought that what made your book credible was that it was published, and you didn't pay for the printing. And that more than 100,000 people bought it without being forced to buy it as part of the class reading list.

No dude, because then we might have to listen to people like Hernado de Soto (the economist, not the explorer) who actually has a plan to help the third world that doesn't involve bankrupting all the local farmers and causing famine.

And then where would we be? I'll tell you: We'd be in a world where political science professors might have to learn some actual history, becuase they couldn't spend the entire lecture whining about the famines that "teh evul Kapitalizm-impEErializm" is currently causing in the third world.

Well I, for one, am just not going to stand for it.

I'm whiter than snow.
Bobby Wade? He plays for a good team DA BEARS!!!!!!!!!!

What, you mean the English DON'T use "jolly good" and "old chap" every other word!

My world is shaken!!!

Sorry about that old boy.

We'd be in a world where political science professors might have to learn some actual history, becuase they couldn't spend the entire lecture whining about the famines that "teh evul Kapitalizm-impEErializm" is currently causing in the third world.

It's easier to write a book that says something sucks, than it is to think of a good idea that will make something better.

To be quite candid with you, I find the American Right to be consistently stupid - dangerously so, in fact.

You've got my vote.

That's better...
if you put it in word and use replace to change "jolly good" and "old chap" to " " then it makes sense.

haulmark

No, 'hallmark', you dolt.

These boards, I have discovered, are full of frauds, scatological teeenagers, illiterate rednecks, ex-squaddies and right-wing loonies.

Pity.

Not the place for me.

For the final time, goodbye.

if you put it in word and use replace to change "jolly good" and "old chap" to " " then it makes sense.
What about all that use of "bloody". I thought I was listening to a bad American script about 19th century Britain...

No, 'hallmark', you dolt.

These boards, I have discovered, are full of frauds, scatological teeenagers, illiterate rednecks, ex-squaddies and right-wing loonies.

Pity.

Not the place for me.

For the final time, goodbye.

I just fell out of my chair after reading that.

What about all that use of "bloody". I thought I was listening to a bad American script about 19th century Britain...
no no no, we were talking about my use of jolly good and old chap every odd word. :::::::::::::D

I just fell out of my chair after reading that.
and do you know why we fall over? so we can pick ourselves back up until we get the hang of it

no no no, we were talking about my use of jolly good and old chap every odd word. :::::::::::::D

Jolly good show, old chap!

and do you know why we fall over? so we can pick ourselves back up until we get the hang of it

It was a graceful fall. I give it a 9.86

It was a graceful fall. I give it a 9.86
You and your multiple personalities?

You and your multiple personalities?

Who told you about my multiple personalities! Was it that #17?

no no no, we were talking about my use of jolly good and old chap every odd word. :::::::::::::D
Is, uh,...Is his wife a goer, eh? Know whatahmean, know whatahmean,
nudge nudge, know whatahmean, say no more?

No, 'hallmark', you dolt.

These boards, I have discovered, are full of frauds, scatological teeenagers, illiterate rednecks, ex-squaddies and right-wing loonies.

Pity.

Not the place for me.

For the final time, goodbye.

Wow, I made a spelling error. You must be awesome at correcting the student's stories at political doctor school.

Anyway, I stand by my statement about you and Northumbria University. Good luck with your inevitable beating at the hands of bona fide Novacastrians.

(And teenager only has three "E"s cocksnot.)

Wow, I made a spelling error. You must be awesome at correcting the student's stories at political doctor school.

Anyway, I stand by my statement about you and Northumbria University. Good luck with your inevitable beating at the hands of bona fide Novacastrians.

Whats up with Northumbria University?

Whats up with Northumbria University?
It looks like it's what we in the US call a "community college".

It looks like it's what we in the US call a "community college".

Ho Dang!

(And teenager only has one "E" cocksnot.)
I could swear it had 3. T-E, that's one, E-N, that's two, A-G-E-R, that's 3. Yes, I'm right.

Whats up with Northumbria University?

There are two colleges in Newcastle. One, Newcastle University is extremely good, especially for science, naval architecture, agriculture and medicine. (Classics is not bad either).

The other, Northumbria University is a fucking joke: for everything. It's like the high school after high school. And it's also full of pretentious cocksnots.

I could swear it had 3. T-E, that's one, E-N, that's two, A-G-E-R, that's 3. Yes, I'm right.

Aw fuck. Yeh, I'll edit. (What do people want, I'm actually dyslexic),

There are two colleges in Newcastle. One, Newcastle University is extremely good, especially for science, naval architecture, agriculture and medicine. (Classics is not bad either).

The other, Northumbria University is a fucking joke: for everything. It's like the high school after high school. And it's also full of pretentious cocksnots.

How dareth you, fiend? I am the most mighty scholar who doth study at the wonderful University of Northumbria

There are two colleges in Newcastle. One, Newcastle University is extremely good, especially for science, naval architecture, agriculture and medicine. (Classics is not bad either).

The other, Northumbria University is a fucking joke: for everything. It's like the high school after high school. And it's also full of pretentious cocksnots.

Ok. That makes sense. I can think of a few comparisons in the US.

Aw fuck. Yeh, I'll edit. (What do people want, I'm actually dyslexic),

Well, if you will correct other people, such things will happen to you.

How dareth you, fiend? I am the most mighty scholar who doth study at the wonderful University of Northumbria

Did I mention that the students are scared to travel around much of the city, for fear of having their "heeds kicked in."

Good times.

It's this damn Labour government I say. Removing the prestige of degrees.

It's this damn Labour government I say. Removing the prestige of degrees.

I'm sure the Jews can be blamed.

Somehow...

Well, if you will correct other people, such things will happen to you.

He started it. Not me.

I normally never correct anyone. Or criticize their grammar. I don't care because I realize that this is just a bulletin board, not somewhere to submit G-8 position papers. (Unlike our politcal doctor friend),

Did I mention that the students are scared to travel around much of the city, for fear of having their "heeds kicked in."

Good times.

You will remember to put question marks in questions in future, I trust?

I'm sure the Jews can be blamed. Somehow...
Oh, sorry.
It's these damn Jews I say. Removing the prestige of degrees.

You will remember to put question marks in questions in future, I trust?

He also made a mistake in his quotation.

Shameth on thou!

This thread has got more life than Tookie Williams!

He also made a mistake in his quotation.

Shameth on thou!
Thee, not thou.

He also made a mistake in his quotation.

Shameth on thou!
All dependant upon whether "heeds kicked in" is the end of a sentence when said by Tyneside Geordies.

Thee, not thou.

I'm sorry, I'm not up on my middle english.

This thread has got more life than Tookie Williams!
That, was unnecessary.

It's this damn Labour government I say. Removing the prestige of degrees.

True that. When my Grandfarther went to down to Cambridge it was based solely on his ability with the willow.

These days it's all A'levels and crap. They let anyone in.

Dang my slow work computer. I wanted to make fun of Lacadaemon.

All dependent upon whether "heeds kicked in" is the end of a sentence when said by Tyneside Geordies.

We very well do not know the context of the sentence.

Shall we call it even, old chap?

That, was unnecessary.

OMG teh BAdz GraMMarZ!

You will remember to put question marks in questions in future, I trust?

You mean like? this. Or do you mean after questions?

Grandfarther
...

I'm sorry, I'm not up on my middle english.
Þat I schal swere bi God and alle his gode hal3ez

You mean like? this. Or do you mean after questions?
That depends upon whether you want to sound vaguely Australian.

Þat I schal swere bi God and alle his gode hal3ez

Yeah... About that.

No.

...

Thus proving my point about letting anyone in.

That depends upon whether you want to sound vaguely Australian.
i.e _______________________n
________________________a
_______________________i
______________________l
_____________I'm Austra

Thus proving my point about letting anyone in.
I'm not going to Cambridge though am I? I'm going to Worcester College, Oxford. As my father did and his father before him and his father before that.

i.e _______________________n
________________________a
_______________________i
______________________l
_____________I'm Austra

The people in Australia spell backwards?

What a strange, uncivilized land...

I'm not going to Cambridge though am I? I'm going to Worcester College, Oxford. As my father did and his father before him and his father before that.
So that's where the Jedi got those odd robes...

The people in Australia spell backwards?

What a strange, uncivilized land...
I was referring to the pitch rise at the end of ALL sentences.
However, mentioning this, they are all convicts and racists.

I was referring to the pitch rise at the end of ALL sentences.
However, mentioning this, they are all convicts and racists.

Obviously. They are all racists and murderers and other bad things.

Obviously. They are all racists and murderers and other bad things.
Does that make them Americans?

Does that make them Americans?
OMG, you U.S. basher. OMG, I'm going to start up a thread dedicated to that comment.

Does that make them Americans?

No, it makes them Vree.

No, it makes them Vree.
Free?

I actually don't know. I've never heard of Vree so I'm hoping you mean free.

Free?

No, Vree.

Free?
No, Vree, as in "Vreedom".

No, Vree, as in "Vreedom".

Now that sounds Kinky.

(for such a serious thread, this went off topic FAST)

it took 500 posts.

it took 500 posts.

It was Vreelicious!

I just hope to God that Iran doesn't have any stealth aircraft.

Considering that the United States is the only country to have stealth technology that would be hard for Iran to acquire. A F117a did crash in a foreign country and it is thought the materials were some way given tot he russians in exchange for technical help but that was only first-gen stealth tech to begin with and wont help them get very far to first-gen anyways. The United States now produces aircraftwith third gen tech and thats aircraft we know about so it is highly suspect that the US gov has plains with even more radical stealth designs that the planes we are allowed to see.

There is no doubt that Israel has the capability and will to strike.

The question is: Will the Iranians strike back?


If the Iranians are stupid...oh boy...



Israel has a right to do this,
because if you actualy belive that Iran whats a Nuclear Power just to "have it" I have some land in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean im willing to sell to you..real cheap.

Considering that the United States is the only country to have stealth technology that would be hard for Iran to acquire. A F117a did crash in a foreign country and it is thought the materials were some way given tot he russians in exchange for technical help but that was only first-gen stealth tech to begin with and wont help them get very far to first-gen anyways. The United States now produces aircraftwith third gen tech and thats aircraft we know about so it is highly suspect that the US gov has plains with even more radical stealth designs that the planes we are allowed to see.

Erm, we're not debating anything more than grammar anymore.
You first sentence doesn't make sense. It's "to the" not "tot he". You're missing a comma after "help". I'll give you anyways, because that's a nice word. "Aircraft with" not "aircraftwith". Also "that's" not "thats" and "than" not "that" for the comparison.

Well, here is how I would imagine things to go.

1) Israel bombs facilities, loses a few planes, but largely suceeds.

2) Iran goes all apeshit, fires missiles (without nuclear warheads, but with C and maybe B warheads) at everyone, including Americans in Afghanistan, and Iraq. Probably significant casualties. At the same time prepares invasion of Iraq.

3) Americans suprised, angered, send more forces on their way into the Gulf. Flies first missions into Iran. Since however there was no real preparation beforehand, it doesn't reach any sort of level that could constitute a successful shock & awe campaign.

4) Iranians march into Iraq, destroy much of Basra, but don't get far. Many Shia in Iraq go over to the side of Iran. Civil War-like circumstances begin, with too many US Forces occupied against Iran to stop it.

5) Iraq falls apart, Kurds give up on it, declare Kurdistan, get hassled by Turkey. Hezbollah and Hamas etc start big campaign against Israel, which is then occupied with fighting everyone and entering Lebanon.

6) Iran eventually gets defeated, but the Middle East is Chaos nonetheless. Plus many tens of thousands of people dead. Plus now there is an occupation of Iran to worry about, which is not all that pleasant at all.


Only problem with that is that you dont factor in that the United States will know of any pre-emptive raid on Iran by Israel...where buddies like that.

US Forces will most likely be pre-paired to hold off any Iranian onslaught into Iraq.

Erm, we're not debating anything more than grammar anymore.
You first sentence doesn't make sense. It's "to the" not "tot he". You're missing a comma after "help". I'll give you anyways, because that's a nice word. "Aircraft with" not "aircraftwith". Also "that's" not "thats" and "than" not "that" for the comparison.

I hereby knight thee "Grammar-Nazi". Do thy bidding.

http://www.mahjqa.com/stuff/grammarnazi.gif

Oh, I nearly forgot "plains", that is just unforgivable.

Erm, we're not debating anything more than grammar anymore.
You first sentence doesn't make sense. It's "to the" not "tot he". You're missing a comma after "help". I'll give you anyways, because that's a nice word. "Aircraft with" not "aircraftwith". Also "that's" not "thats" and "than" not "that" for the comparison.

Big fuggin deal, I was in a hurry to get to class and was posting quick before I had to go. I really didn't have time to make sure the grammar was right and that there were no typos. All I did was forget a semicolon in the first sentance and it would make sense then. Also, some of the things you're pointing out are just nitpicky; its a post not an english assignment. FYI, they typos with that's and than are some of the more common ones I make while typing fast so they do not surprise me. How about argueing the merit of my statement instead of attacking the conventions of it like some damn speech nerd.

Big fuggin deal, I was in a hurry to get to class and was posting quick before I had to go. I really didn't have time to make sure the grammar was right and that there were no typos. All I did was forget a semicolon in the first sentance and it would make sense then. Also, some of the things you're pointing out are just nitpicky; its a post not an english assignment. FYI, they typos with that's and than are some of the more common ones I make while typing fast so they do not surprise me. How about argueing the merit of my statement instead of attacking the conventions of it like some damn speech nerd.
I think you may have missed my opening point; maybe even the entire aim of my post.

That's a very short list. Half-assing it, you can find times in which the Egyptians, Romans, Babylonians, Seleucids, Christians under both the Roman and Eastern Churches, and Muslims have all attempted to kill or enslave them specifically. That's spanning an assload of time. Jewish history didn't begin in 1400.

And it's fairly easy to gloss over the parts of the Koran where rocks and trees will tell Allah's faithful where the Jews are, so they can be killed and the Resurrection can occur.

You forget to mention that before conquering Medina that Mohammed unified his troops by executing two jewish settlements in the area. Hell of a way to not to persecute the jews and to establish yourself a legacy of tolerance and peace. Even notice that Mohammed is the only founder of any major religion that spread his religion by conquest or violence?

Only problem with that is that you dont factor in that the United States will know of any pre-emptive raid on Iran by Israel...where buddies like that.

US Forces will most likely be pre-paired to hold off any Iranian onslaught into Iraq.
Fair enough...but to actually hold off the Iranian army, that will probably take at least an extra 50,000, probably 100,000 troops. They have to be deployed first, and Iran will notice.

Nonetheless, it doesn't change much. Shock and Awe works best against a relatively small country with little defensive capabilities and enough time to prepare.

Chances are that this situation is not given in this case, such that Iran will get the time to do irreperable damage to the region and itself.

I think you may have missed my opening point; maybe even the entire aim of my post.

maybe, i jumped in late to this convo. what was your opening point?

maybe, i jumped in late to this convo. what was your opening point?
My point was, the debate has died down and we are no longer discussing Israel. Instead we are discussing grammar.

I don't know what you've been smoking, but Israel has never had 'far more extensive' military capabilites that any of their nieghbors. In fact, they've had far less extensive capabilites. They were just able to utilize their military more effectivley than their neighbors.

Anyone who tries to claim that is an idiot unless they are refering to modern history. In 68 and 73, the Syrians and Egyptians were using the newest russian T series takens while the israelis were using refitted patons and centurtions. The Israelis also were using old American F-4s and Skylarks directly against new Russian planes, and in some incidents, the actual Russian Airforce. The Israelis had no full size vessels in their navy at the time and whiped out most of the enemies' navies. Also, in the Yom Kippur War, the Arabs had received flights of 72 Antionovs, thats equivalent to an american c-5 galaxy lifter, before Israel received one ounce of aid. The craziest of all thing is that the Arabs launched a surpise attack and ended up losing.

If Iran acquired a nuclear weapon, do you think it would pre-emptively use it on Israel? The thought scares me shitless. But if they did, it would almost certainly involve destroying the Dome of the Rock and killing millions of Palestinians in the process.


Since that area is Holy Ground to so many differant people I think that Iran nuking Isreal would only cause them more trouble then they are able to deal with.

They don't. Their military is technologically backward compared to the US; it's probably just a bunch of older model Russian or Soviet planes, and anything they could buy off of third party nations' US technology.

Iran's got F-14 . The US sold them to the Shah. I don't know if they're still operative, though.

Since that area is Holy Ground to so many differant people I think that Iran nuking Isreal would only cause them more trouble then they are able to deal with.

Wow. Necromancy.

This thread was almost a year dead until this!

Since that area is Holy Ground to so many differant people I think that Iran nuking Isreal would only cause them more trouble then they are able to deal with.

Wow. Necromancy.

This thread was almost a year dead until this!

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