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Football and Hooligans...

Neu Leonstein
11-12-2005, 08:50
There were ten German bombers in the sky,
There were ten German bombers in the sky,
There were ten German bombers, ten German bombers,
Ten German bombers in the sky.

Then the RAF from England shot one down,
The RAF from England shot one down,
The RAF from England, the RAF from England,
The RAF from England shot one down.

There were nine German bombers in the sky......
(etc etc ad nauseam)


This blog entry (http://www.upsaid.com/eurotrash/index.php?action=viewcom&id=349) from an American calling himself "Eurotrash" is interesting (careful, may contain language some may find offensive...;) ). He visited a football game England vs Colombia, and he didn't have a good time.

Are football fans really as bad as their reputation? Is hoologanism really such an issue?

I've only been to three games in my life (two HSV vs Eintract Frankfurt...I used to be an Andi Köpke fan, and one Pauli vs someone else I can't remember).
While there was a lot of noise, and alcohol consumption, I didn't see any fighting or the like.

And by the way, the English coach asked fans not to sing that bomber-song (http://www.spiegel.de/video/0,4916,9557,00.html) (it's a traditional part of the English fan's repertoire) at the world cup.

And another thing, that issue with a group of Cottbus fans holding up an apparently anti-semitic banner at a game (as first mentioned in this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=458186) thread) is now under investigation by the police.
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,389568,00.html (Link in German)
Lunatic Goofballs
11-12-2005, 08:56
To me, Hooliganism is the most interesting aspect of the game.

But then again, I'm a Lunatic Goofball. :)
The South Islands
11-12-2005, 08:56
****!
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-12-2005, 09:05
****!
*golf clap*
Laenis
11-12-2005, 09:36
Football hooligans are a small minority who everyone over here with half a brain make the object of humiliation. Of course, some people think that it's great to generalise all English football fans because of some pathetic anti-English agenda, but they are just as racist and pig ignorant as the hooligans themselves. Don't worry, I won't generalise any country whose minority citizens say "Yeah, all English fans are evil! All English are evil! We, on the other hand, are the master race!"
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-12-2005, 09:38
Football hooligans are a small minority who everyone over here with half a brain make the object of humiliation. Of course, some people think that it's great to generalise all English football fans because of some pathetic anti-English agenda, but they are just as racist and pig ignorant as the hooligans themselves. Don't worry, I won't generalise any country whose minority citizens say "Yeah, all English fans are evil! All English are evil! We, on the other hand, are the master race!"
Paranoid much?
The tin-foil hats are over there.
The South Islands
11-12-2005, 09:39
Asians are the Master Race.

Obviously.
Laenis
11-12-2005, 09:42
England is constantly criticised for having hooligan football fans. You probably don't understand or see any of it because it's a European thing. It's true that there are English Football Hooligans, but as with all supporters of any team they are a minority. Yes, it is a problem, but i've heard too many people start generalising the whole population of England on the basis on a few of the worst members of the populace.
Egg and chips
11-12-2005, 10:01
You forgot the famous England chant of "Two world wars and one world cup" :P

Nah. in all seriousness there are two types of English hooligan.

The ones like my brother, who will start fighting because they want to, and the ones who follow the crowd and join in with the first ones. They are all scumm and should be banned from football and arrested.
Lacadaemon
11-12-2005, 10:05
You forgot the famous England chant of "Two world wars and one world cup" :P


Ah, Benidorm in the 80s. Good times. That, and stealing the towels the germans used to put on the sun-loungers.
Neu Leonstein
11-12-2005, 11:38
That, and stealing the towels the germans used to put on the sun-loungers.
It's called forward planning. We're good at that. :D

Football is a game of 22 players. Two goals, 1 referee, 2 assistants, 90 minutes of playing time. And in the end the Germans win.

http://www.frenchapartment.org/smilies/flag_german.gif
Harlesburg
11-12-2005, 11:47
The South Islands





I dislike hooliganism but stuff.
Albanians and Serbs!:mp5: :gundge: