What Makes a Man?
Megaloria
10-12-2005, 06:30
Discuss.
Anarchic Conceptions
10-12-2005, 06:32
Clothes?
Lacadaemon
10-12-2005, 06:35
For the purposes of the olympics, a Y chromsome.
Other than that, I don't really have a good definition.
Ashmoria
10-12-2005, 06:37
must be an adult
ought to have penis and testicles but there can be exceptions that are decided on a case by case basis.
Lord-General Drache
10-12-2005, 06:38
Ahh, hilarious song! I can't find my copy. *sobs*
New Genoa
10-12-2005, 06:50
Now you're a man. A manny manny man..
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
10-12-2005, 06:57
A man is made of cells. These cells clump together to form tissues, and then these tissues form organs. The organs work in concert together to form the body, and then the body is what is seen as the man.
And now you know!
Cannot think of a name
10-12-2005, 07:03
Snips and snails and puppy dog tails.
Oh, wait, that's little boys...
Katzistanza
10-12-2005, 07:08
responcibiliy, character, dignity, strength of will. My opinion, anyway.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
10-12-2005, 07:10
Penis.
Except a woman can get all the Penis she wants, but that doesn't make her a man.
Hobbesianland
10-12-2005, 07:24
This question is getting at something. I think most people have a prototype of a "man". And not just a male, or a guy, or a man, but a "man". There are a lot of boys out there, and very few "men". All the single ladies out there can vouch for this, I'm sure.
Freeunitedstates
10-12-2005, 07:24
How should a person respond when he is asked, "As a human being, what is essential in terms of purpose and discipline?" First, let us say, "It is to become of the mind that is right now pure and lacking complications." People in general all seem to be dejected. When one has a pure and uncomplicated mind, his expression will be lively. When one is attending to matters, there is one thing that comes forth from his heart. That is, in terms of one's lord, loyalty; in terms of one's parents, filial piety; in martial affairs, bravery ; and apart from that, something that can be used by all the world.
This is very difficult to discover. Once discovered, it is again difficult to keep in constant effect. There is nothing outside the thought of the immediate moment.
Hagakure, Yamamoto Tsunetomo
An' that's my two cents...
M3rcenaries
10-12-2005, 07:50
how close he comes to chuck norris.
how close he comes to chuck norris.
When I came, we were almost touching.
Pepe Dominguez
10-12-2005, 08:01
Am I the only one who thought of Lebowski when I read the thread title.. someone tell me I'm not.. :(
Classic scene though..
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BRANDT
We've had some terrible news. Mr.
Lebowski is in seclusion in the West
Wing.
DUDE
Huh.
Brandt throws open a pair of heavy double doors. The music
washes over us as we enter a great study where Jeffrey
Lebowski, a blanket thrown over his knees, stares hauntedly
into a fire, listening to Lohengrin.
BRANDT ANNOUNCES, AMBIGUOUSLY:
BRANDT
Mr. Lebowski.
Jeffrey Lebowski waves the Dude in without looking around.
LEBOWSKI
It's funny. I can look back on a
life of achievement, on challenges
met, competitors bested, obstacles
overcome. I've accomplished more
than most men, and without the use
of my legs. What. . . What makes a
man, Mr. Lebowski?
DUDE
Dude.
LEBOWSKI
Huh?
DUDE
I don't know, sir.
LEBOWSKI
Is it. . . is it, being prepared to
do the right thing? Whatever the
price? Isn't that what makes a man?
DUDE
Sure. That and a pair of testicles.
Lebowski turns away from the Dude with a haunted stare, lost
in thought.
LEBOWSKI
You're joking. But perhaps you're
right.
The Dude thumps at his chest pocket.
DUDE
Mind if I smoke a jay?
LEBOWSKI
Bunny.
He turns back around and the firelight shows teartracks on
his cheeks.
DUDE
'Scuse me?
LEBOWSKI
Bunny Lebowski. . . She is the light
of my life. Are you surprised at my
tears, sir?
DUDE
Fuckin' A.
LEBOWSKI
Strong men also cry. . . Strong men
also cry.
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I never get tired of that.. pathetic, I know.. :(
New Genoa
10-12-2005, 08:13
First, in order to answer this heated question we must ask ourselves "What is a man? How do we define a man? Are men defined differently in other cultures? If so, is our perception of a man correct? Should a man be defined by physical characteristics such as presence of a Y chromosome and that little appendage hanging from his crotch, or by the inherent psychological motives hardwired into our brain? Are these motives programmed, or are they genetic? Is the idea of a man a result of the sociological interaction between male and female? Should females be defined as men or men as females? What is the moralistic motives for giving such a definition to a man, and why do we accept these? Is it not sexist to exclude women from being men? Is this not denial of equal opportunity based on flimsy premises that modern science has defined through rigorous testing and common sense? Is there a 'man' inside all of us? Can we become men?"
Herein lies the answer.
Theroetical Physicists
10-12-2005, 08:13
how close he comes to chuck norris.
If Chuck Norris defines a man then I wish I was a women.
The Magisterian
10-12-2005, 08:17
how close he comes to chuck norris.
"Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried..."
-Justin Pinelle
A penis between his legs.
New Rafnaland
10-12-2005, 08:21
How should a person respond when he is asked, "As a human being, what is essential in terms of purpose and discipline?" First, let us say, "It is to become of the mind that is right now pure and lacking complications." People in general all seem to be dejected. When one has a pure and uncomplicated mind, his expression will be lively. When one is attending to matters, there is one thing that comes forth from his heart. That is, in terms of one's lord, loyalty; in terms of one's parents, filial piety; in martial affairs, bravery ; and apart from that, something that can be used by all the world.
This is very difficult to discover. Once discovered, it is again difficult to keep in constant effect. There is nothing outside the thought of the immediate moment.
Hagakure, Yamamoto Tsunetomo
An' that's my two cents...
Using the same book, a young male (ages 13-20) cannot become a man unless he has an older (ages 35-50) lover. A male lover, to boot. Perhaps Yamamoto, a bitter, old samurai isn't the person we should be quoting on this.
Mitigation
10-12-2005, 08:28
"The Lost Kingdom"
There are those who would have you believe power is what makes a man
Those who would have you believe wealth defines our person
To watch over a kingdom of our own making
Being the true sign of success or failure in ones life
I say we may all build our own kingdom
This kingdom needs not power or servants
It needs not wealth and extravagant things
This kingdom needs only love
Love being the bearer of all things good
Love bringing us our dreams, our goals
Delivering to us all the things wealth and power cannot
Love, being the vessel by which we find our kingdoms queen
A friend wrote to me once
She spoke to me, told me that heartbreak was a temporary thing
That it would be worth the risk, for the reward of an undeniable love
An unequivocal love.
And she was right, for I knew precisely of what she spoke
I knew the search for my kingdom had found fruit
I knew there would be no bounds to the happiness in my life from that day forward
But alas it seems I was mistaken
For only now am I realizing, that I have lost my queen
~ by Me
Iztatepopotla
10-12-2005, 08:32
Mostly water, carbon, and a handful of other elements.
M3rcenaries
10-12-2005, 08:35
If Chuck Norris defines a man then I wish I was a women.
Are you defying the great one! and from a fellow texan.. Today is a sad day. DOnt mutter those words in the chuck norris thread or you will recieve a flaming roundhouse kick to teh face
Hullepupp
10-12-2005, 08:52
Penis.
Am I not right?
not only in the biological way :D
A penis between his legs.
i'm willing to bet that your mother had a penis between her legs at some point in her life. did that make her a man?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
10-12-2005, 09:14
i'm willing to bet that your mother had a penis between her legs at some point in her life. did that make her a man?
Yeah, but she got that operation to fix it.
Nubivagant Airgonauts
10-12-2005, 09:24
i'm willing to bet that your mother had a penis between her legs at some point in her life. did that make her a man?
That's great.
However, the poll never clearly defined man as biological, or in the broader sense meaning being human. In the latter case, a man may not even have to be of the human species, but only act with the two-faced human nature of respect and dignity versus the unpredictable "bad" side.
That's great.
However, the poll never clearly defined man as biological, or in the broader sense meaning being human. In the latter case, a man may not even have to be of the human species, but only act with the two-faced human nature of respect and dignity versus the unpredictable "bad" side.
Exactly, but if a two-faced nonhuman had a biological penis between their legs... Then would they be a man?
....No, it's probably the titties
i'm willing to bet that your mother had a penis between her legs at some point in her life. did that make her a man?
That was uncalled for. Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw.
Is it not sexist to exclude women from being men? Is this not denial of equal opportunity based on flimsy premises that modern science has defined through rigorous testing and common sense? Is there a 'man' inside all of us? Can we become men?"
Answer those, and you're left with a much more personal question: should we be men?
Nubivagant Airgonauts
10-12-2005, 11:05
Exactly, but if a two-faced nonhuman had a biological penis between their legs... Then would they be a man?
Sure, they could be. Not necessarily, but they could be.
Nubivagant Airgonauts
10-12-2005, 11:11
Answer those, and you're left with a much more personal question: should we be men?
Lola, L O L A, Lola...
or...
Take a Walk on the Wild Side...
Now You're A Man - DVDA
Hey
What makes a man?
Is it the power in his hands?
Is it his quest for glory?
Give it all you've got,
to fight to the top
So we can know your story
Now you're a man
A man, man man
Now you're a man
A manny manny man
A man man man
You are now a man
You're a man
Now you're a man
Live it, Live it
What make a man?
Is it the woman in his arms?
Just cause she has big titties?
Or is it the way he fights every day?
....No, it's probably the titties
Now you're a man
A man, man man
Now you're a man-man
Man-man man-man man
Now you're a man
M-A-N, man
Man, man-man man
Now you're a man
BackwoodsSquatches
10-12-2005, 11:32
Me and my brother were talking to each other
'Bout what makes a man a man
Was it brain or brawn, or the month you were born
We just couldn't understand
Our old man didn't like our appearance
He said that only women wear long hair
So me and my brother borrowed money from Mother
We knew what we had to do
We went downstairs, past the barber and gymnasium
And got our arms tattooed
Welcome to my life, tattoo
I'm a man now, thanks to you
I expect I'll regret you
But the skin graft man won't get you
You'l be there when I die
Tattoo
My dad beat me 'cause mine said "Mother"
But my mother naturally liked it and beat my brother
'Cause his tattoo was of a lady in the nude
And she thought that was extremely rude
Welcome to my life, tattoo
We've a long time together, me and you
I expect I'll regret you
But the skin graft man won't get you
You'll be there when I die
Tattoo
Now I'm older, I'm tattooed all over
My wife is tattooed too
A rooty-toot-toot, rooty-tooty-toot-toot
Rooty-toot-toot tattoo too
To you
-The Who
Painelandia
10-12-2005, 12:08
First, in order to answer this heated question we must ask ourselves "What is a man? How do we define a man? Are men defined differently in other cultures? If so, is our perception of a man correct? Should a man be defined by physical characteristics such as presence of a Y chromosome and that little appendage hanging from his crotch, or by the inherent psychological motives hardwired into our brain? Are these motives programmed, or are they genetic? Is the idea of a man a result of the sociological interaction between male and female? Should females be defined as men or men as females? What is the moralistic motives for giving such a definition to a man, and why do we accept these? Is it not sexist to exclude women from being men? Is this not denial of equal opportunity based on flimsy premises that modern science has defined through rigorous testing and common sense? Is there a 'man' inside all of us? Can we become men?"
Herein lies the answer.
No, no, not the presence of the appendage... the size. Oh, and after that has been judged worthy you'll also be judged on how skilled you are with it's use. So practice often.
Cannot think of a name
10-12-2005, 12:10
... should we be men?
No! We shall be Devo!
Taverham high
10-12-2005, 12:23
If
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
thats a good definition.
Compulsive Depression
10-12-2005, 13:09
Twelve pints of lager, followed by an extra-spicy Phall. So long as he doesn't throw up.
Freeunitedstates
10-12-2005, 18:42
Using the same book, a young male (ages 13-20) cannot become a man unless he has an older (ages 35-50) lover. A male lover, to boot. Perhaps Yamamoto, a bitter, old samurai isn't the person we should be quoting on this.
You're misinterpreting his view on homosexuality. He isn't saying that all men should have an older male lover, though in the Edo Period, homosexuality was considered a greater pursuit than heterosexuality. That was because it was thought that one should completely devote one's life to his master. Also, don't forget i nthe old days 13 wasn't a surprising age for people to get married. Yamamoto was hardly bitter, he had taken the tonsure of a Buddhist monk and livd in a hermitage.
The Eagle of Darkness
10-12-2005, 18:55
Since there's so many songs floating about...
Takes more than combat gear to make a man
Takes more than a license for a gun
Confront your enemies, avoid them when you can
A gentleman will walk but never run
If, "Manners maketh man" as someone said
Then he's the hero of the day
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
~Sting, Englishman in New York
QuentinTarantino
10-12-2005, 18:56
Sting is English?
The Eagle of Darkness
10-12-2005, 19:01
Sting is English?
Not a clue. I just quote 'em.
Hiberniae
11-12-2005, 02:54
At least I am not the only person who recognized these options as the opening song to Orgazmo.