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Who do YOU think?

It's a toss up between Tool and Nine Inch Nails in my opinion...I'd lean towards Tool myself.

radiohead. from the poll, blur.

Aren't we approaching 2006. Stop living in the past.
Anyhow what qualifies you as a 90's band?
Pretty sure NIN formed at the end of the 80's.
Why am I asking about this when I hate these frigging threads ?

That poll sucks...the only one that might concievably lay claim to the title is Nirvana.

Meh, what do I care? :p

Aren't we approaching 2006. Stop living in the past.
Anyhow what qualifies you as a 90's band?
Pretty sure NIN formed at the end of the 80's.
Why am I asking about this when I hate these frigging threads ?

SCHOOOOOOOOOOLIES

Pretty sure NIN formed at the end of the 80's.


True (Pretty Hate Machine was released in '89)

But I think the same is true of Green Day, and they're on his poll....so...

...yeah, I was going somewhere with that. Could 'ya tell? :p

Tool.

Yeah Nirvana were kicking about at the end of the 80's also.
This is the worst poll in a series of shitty polls and threads about the best-whatever.

Yeah Nirvana were kicking about at the end of the 80's also.
This is the worst poll in a series of shitty polls and threads about the best-whatever.
its a good poll

its a good poll

Well you've won me over with this astonishing argument. Have fun!!

Well you've won me over with this astonishing argument. Have fun!!

Okay you too :)

Fat Boy Slim. He even says so on the record, and he should know.

Fat Boy Slim. He even says so on the record, and he should know.

But is he a band?

I vote for the Spice Girls **nod**

**runs away**

Jane's Addiction...

Thought they started in the 80's they thrived in the 90's

So, is it in fact the case that there were no good bands formed in the '90s?

So, is it in fact the case that there were no good bands formed in the '90s?
Hammerfall, Sonata Arctica, Crusader, Dragonland, Nightwish, Children of Bodom, Finntroll, Ensiferum, Sinergy, I could go on ;)

Hammerfall, Sonata Arctica, Crusader, Dragonland, Nightwish, Children of Bodom, Finntroll, Ensiferum, Sinergy, I could go on ;)

Yeah, okay, I see your point.

What I should have said is "Is it the case that there are no good bands on that poll?"

What I should have said is "Is it the case that there are no good bands on that poll?"

blur are awesome.

I like Oasis , but it is even not the "BAND OF THE 90s"........

A lot of the great bands from the 90's formed in the 80's.

Blues Traveler, for instance, formed in the very early 80's as an NY club circuit jam band, they just didn't get REALLY big until the release of Four in the middle 90's.

But is he a band?

Well, that question is raised on the same track, but then he starts playing music and it just gets glossed over.

I guess we'll never really find out...

i find blink the most tolerable of those listed on the poll.

the problem with the 90's is that, although there was lots of great music, the great majority were 1-hit wonders or something like that. however, matchbox 20 should definately be added to the poll.

Tool.

Damn, someone beat me to Jane! However, I'm pretty sure they formed in the late 80's. I'd also have to give a nod to Tool. Those boys put the metal back in rock.

Guns N' Roses

The Illusions came out in 1991.

GNR would have been the biggest band in HISTORY had they not broken up.

Nirvana by a hair. Runners up being Kyuss, Mudhoney, Rage Against the Machine, Tool, and Alice in Chains....could go on, but I won't.

Why am I asking about this when I hate these frigging threads ?

We could always just gently mock the thread by suggesting that Status Quo were the band of the 90s, along with also being the band of the 80s, the band of the 70s, the band of the 60s and also the band of '00s, but that would be cruel.

Nirvana is the only band that could hold that title that is on the poll...however you left out a bunch of great bands.
Soundgarden
Rage Against the Machine
The Offspring
Alice in Chains
Smashing Pumpkins

Nirvana is the only band that could hold that title that is on the poll...

And that only because Kobain blew his head off before Nirvana could start to suck. Nothing like an early death to ensure your place in history.

And that only because Kobain blew his head off before Nirvana could start to suck. Nothing like an early death to ensure your place in history.

And who says they would have started to suck? They could have become even greater. I believe they would have went on and kept writing great songs...and made great albums.

Sublime.

They wouldn't necessarily have started to suck, but that's pretty much the standard story. Kobain's death cut 'em off right at the top, freezing them in, arguably, a position higher than what they really deserve.

Guns N' Roses
The Illusions came out in 1991.
GNR would have been the biggest band in HISTORY had they not broken up.

Although I agree GNR kicked ass, they would not have been on the same level had they stayed together. In an interview right after the split, Slash said that Axl's ideas for the band sucked and would have alienated their fans, and told Axl to give him a call if he ever wanted to "rock" again.

I find no one on the poll worthy of my vote. And it depends on what you specifically mean; most good bands don't last within the confines of a decade- GNR started in 88, but the best stuff came out in the early 90's. Where would you put Metallica? IMHO their best stuff was in the 80's, but they became vastly more popular in the 90's-00's.

took 3 pages to find what i was looking for before i replied, but i say sublime too :-p even tho they played their first show in 1988, i think brad nowell was amazing and the music will always be sublime :)

for 90s bands, I'd say Curve or Lush. AFAIK they didn't release anything until the 90s.

I say Rage.



...Against the Machine.


/Didn't get into Rage until Febuary of '04
//FOUR GODDAMN YEARS AFTER THE BAND BROKE UP
///Heard first Rage song when I went to see The Matrix
////:NEWSFLASH: Fark Slashy's attack Nationstates forum! I for one welcome our Slashy Overlords.

The Offspring
come on platinum cd's such as Smash and Americana.. this is the obvious choice.

That's a pretty limited selection up there ...

Personally, one of the first names that pops into my mind is Rage Against the Machine... Not to say it's my favourite, but it's definitely up there.

I say Rage.



...Against the Machine.


/Didn't get into Rage until Febuary of '04
//FOUR GODDAMN YEARS AFTER THE BAND BROKE UP
///Heard first Rage song when I went to see The Matrix
////:NEWSFLASH: Fark Slashy's attack Nationstates forum! I for one welcome our Slashy Overlords.

I got into RATM a month before they broke up. :(

Although I agree GNR kicked ass, they would not have been on the same level had they stayed together. In an interview right after the split, Slash said that Axl's ideas for the band sucked and would have alienated their fans, and told Axl to give him a call if he ever wanted to "rock" again.

I find no one on the poll worthy of my vote. And it depends on what you specifically mean; most good bands don't last within the confines of a decade- GNR started in 88, but the best stuff came out in the early 90's. Where would you put Metallica? IMHO their best stuff was in the 80's, but they became vastly more popular in the 90's-00's.

Slash wanted to turn the band into a hairband that had repetitive songs.

The reason Axl wanted to change things up for the Illusions is simply that if they never escaped AfD (which they DIDN'T with Lies) their music, no matter how good it was, would always be overshadowed by their first release.

It's just sad that Axl gets all the blame for it.

Seeing as barley any of those bands started in the 90's I'd say U2, or Guns and roses, Meatloaf....theres a hell of a lot of bands tht started in the 80's and finsiehd in the 90's!

RATM, I'd say. Though I'd probably come up with a different answer if I spent any length of time thinking about it.

Seeing as barley any of those bands started in the 90's I'd say U2, or Guns and roses, Meatloaf....theres a hell of a lot of bands tht started in the 80's and finsiehd in the 90's!

It's almost like they don't care about our ability to define bands by decades:mad:

It's almost like they don't care about our ability to define bands by decades:mad:
Aye, Green day for instance started in the 90's, and what the hell are Blur doing up there!?!?!?!?

Aye, Green day for instance started in the 90's, and what the hell are Blur doing up there!?!?!?!?

You meant '80s for Green Day?:confused:

You meant '80s for Green Day?:confused:
yep!

And that only because Kobain blew his head off before Nirvana could start to suck. Nothing like an early death to ensure your place in history.Perhaps you have a point, but perhaps not. After all, the last song they wrote is one of their 5 best, and that's saying a lot.

what the hell are Blur doing up there!?!?!?!?

because blur are awesome?

GNR started in 88, but the best stuff came out in the early 90's.

Wrong and wrong.

Well, wrong factually, and wrong IMO, anyway.




and the poll sucks, but I think we've figured that out.

Perhaps you have a point, but perhaps not. After all, the last song they wrote is one of their 5 best, and that's saying a lot.

Yeah, they got better with each release, I think.

because blur are awesome?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! Did I just hear you right. You think Blur are good?

It's a toss up between Tool and Nine Inch Nails in my opinion...I'd lean towards Tool myself.


I second that!

No doubt about it that Nirvana is the best band of the 90's, if not ever! :cool:

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! Did I just hear you right. You think Blur are good?

yeah, you think green day are good, hahahahahaha etc.

yeah, you think green day are good, hahahahahaha etc.
5 albums, world renown success, more awards than you can count, several huge albums, span over 2 decades. Not scared to ahve a pop at Bush and shwo there colours. yeah i'd say thats pritty good.

"Greatest Band of the 90s" is a complete oxymoron, but if pressed, I'd vote for Nirvana...but only because they're from my hometown.

5 albums, world renown success, more awards than you can count, several huge albums, span over 2 decades. Not scared to ahve a pop at Bush and shwo there colours. yeah i'd say thats pritty good.

7 albums, one of which was shit, well respected globally, plenty of awards, one of the best guitarists ever, several huge albums, diverse styles, gorrillaz, very vocal against recent events. seems that blur are quite similar to greenday doesnt it?:P

the thing is, greenday are a pop band. blur are not (except for the period in the mid nineties when they were, but we wont mention that).

in the 90s... hmmm, tough question. Based solely on what they did in the 90s, I'd say probably:

Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Aerosmith
Bon Jovi
Metallica
REM
Alice In Chains

those put out probably the most hits of rock bands during the 1990s

those put out probably the most hits of rock bands during the 1990s

Ah, so it's about sales over quality, eh?

Ah, so it's about sales over quality, eh?

Well, most of his list is quality.

Ah, so it's about sales over quality, eh?

(here we go again)

upon what do you base "quality"?

since it is an opinion, don't you go with highest sales?

Or is your taste better than everyone else's?

Well, most of his list is quality.

thanks, mate

all nice choices.

Well, most of his list is quality.

True, but I get annoyed when somebody associates "good" with sales numbers. A lot of really good bands never even charted.

True, but I get annoyed when somebody associates "good" with sales numbers. A lot of really good bands never even charted.

true

it's all about $$

if you don't have the cash to get songs onto an album/produced/distributed, nobody's going to hear you

it's sad to think of all the really great songs nobody has heard or ever will hear

true

it's all about $$

if you don't have the cash to get songs onto an album/produced/distributed, nobody's going to hear you

it's sad to think of all the really great songs nobody has heard or ever will hear

the problem is not that you don't get to hear them. it's more that you don't make the effort to hear them.
it's pretty easy and cheap to get songs recorded, mixed and burnt onto cd's. distribution is problematic but not impossible, particularly thanks to the internet. loads of bands do the independent thing, put out their own records, fanzines, tours.
anyway shit's shit whether you're on a major label making millions or on an indie selling 5000 records. it's as much a mistake to confuse sales with quality as it is to confuse lack of sales with quality.

WHERE ARE THE OPTIONS FOR MADONNA AND THE SPICE GIRLS???? :confused:


I vote for oasis.

WHERE ARE THE OPTIONS FOR MADONNA AND THE SPICE GIRLS???? :confused:


They're on a "Worst band of the 90s" thread, along with Green Day.

Hey, wait a second...

For the record, I don't really think Green Day are that bad

none of the above.

Radiohead.

They're on a "Worst band of the 90s" thread, along with Green Day.

Hey, wait a second...

For the record, I don't really think Green Day are that bad

Not according to the public sorry. Madonna sold over 1,000,000 copies of ray of light and the spice girls were the worlds top selling all-girl bad to date.

*pat pat*

and green day was SO much better in the 90's now it's just....

...

Not according to the public sorry. Madonna sold over 1,000,000 copies of ray of light and the spice girls were the worlds top selling all-girl bad to date.

*pat pat*

Great. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. Since when did quantity=quality? And besides, people are idiots.

I don't know if it counts, but the second coming of Johnny Cash in the 90's was pretty damn good. Aside from that, you can't knock bands like RATM, Pearl Jam (well, okay, you can sort of rip Pearl Jam, but more than anything else because they spawned the Creed clone), and Jane's Addiction. I'm not quite on the same wavelength as everyone else about Nirvana, but nevertheless they did have some very good albums, and the same is true of groups like Smashing Pumpkins and Alice in Chains.

Bottom line: I don't know if I could say who was the best overall band of the 90's, because that's a difficult thing to pin down and define (Santana, for instance, had some really good albums in the 90's, but does he count if he started playing in the 60's?), but on the whole, the music from the 90's was way better quality than in the 80's; after all, at least in the 90's the music industry was smart enough to realize that Metallica for all its faults is still hella better than Jethro Tull.

Great. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. Since when did quantity=quality? And besides, people are idiots.

No.. people bought the music because madonna pwns.
and the spice girls did in their time.
kthx

No.. people bought the music because madonna pwns.
and the spice girls did in their time.
kthx

Ah, a convincing argument if ever I saw one.

The spice girls always were and always will be at best of moderate talent, who garnered more popularity through their "girl power" stance, media circus and sex appeal than respect for their musical ability or message.

Maddona does not "pwn". She's better than the Spice Girls, though. Oh, and why would she be on the best bands of the 90s anyway?

...but on the whole, the music from the 90's was way better quality than in the 80's.

music in the 80's was no shittier than any other decade. it just depends where you look. joy division. pil. black flag. sonic youth. big black. killdozer. replacements. melvins. mission of burma. swans. i could go on.

music in the 80's was no shittier than any other decade. it just depends where you look. joy division. pil. black flag. sonic youth. big black. killdozer. replacements. melvins. mission of burma. swans. i could go on.

I don't dispute that. The fact remains, however, that in the 90's you could hear pretty decent bands just about anywhere in the country on a major station. In the 80's, all you could hear on the radio was Meatloaf and Huey Lewis and the News. There's a big difference right there.

I don't dispute that. The fact remains, however, that in the 90's you could hear pretty decent bands just about anywhere in the country on a major station. In the 80's, all you could hear on the radio was Meatloaf and Huey Lewis and the News. There's a big difference right there.

what instead of huey lewis and meatloaf you get nickleback and matchbox 20. score !!

none of the above.

Radiohead.

finally someone agrees! :)