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I had a lot of fun today talking to the kids at the local elementary about Hanukkah. 2nd graders can really ask some tough questions, many of which I ended up answering with, "I'm sorry, but I can't talk about that in a public school."

An answer that if a Christian were forced to give, they'd cry persecution. I don't mind at all. [/HA!]

I've got a 233 Meg video, but I won't bore you all with that. But here's some still shots from it. :D (Dig that luxurious head of hippie hair!)

http://www.unlc.biz/images/presenting01.jpg

http://www.unlc.biz/images/presenting02.jpg

http://www.unlc.biz/images/presenting03.jpg

Woo!

cool. completly serious question (because I am ignorant, I am trying to learn though)
can you tell me what the deal is with Hanukkah?

I know basically what you are celebrating, but what are the different traditions and what do they mean symbolically?

1. OMG...you are a sexay beast Keruv! Though you remind me of Mick Foley from WWE...

2. Ummm.... the 8 days, represent the 8 days, that the oil lasted, when it should've lasted 1 day..2 days tops.

And technically it's not a holiday...it's a celebration. =)

Holiday-Holy Day.

No days off in Hanukkah...unless you go to a Jewish School.

Not exactly sure what else to say on it...oh yeah! Your supposed to eat lots and lots of donuts and fried food junk, that bring back your acne with a vengeance.


EDIT: Oh yes...BTW, what type of questions did the little kinderlach ask? ;p

I know basically what you are celebrating, but what are the different traditions and what do they mean symbolically?

The most universal tradition is the lighting of the Chanukkiah, a 9 branched candle holder which represents the 7 branched menorah in the Temple of Solomon. It commemorates the 1 day's worth of oil miraculously burning for 8 days during the rededication of the Temple.

Different cultures have different traditions, though. The candlelighting is Jewniversal. It's not really a very important holiday, but since it usually coincides with Christmas, it becomes a big deal in diverse settings.

Fortunately, it's not as marketable. Hallmark and Coca Cola have yet to invent the Chanukkah Chinchilla.

Very professional gesticulation.. I can spot the Clintonian half-point, as well as the ever-effective GHW Bush "Million Points of Light" fingertip maneuver.. very slick. :)

The most universal tradition is the lighting of the Chanukkiah, a 9 branched candle holder which represents the 7 branched menorah in the Temple of Solomon. It commemorates the 1 day's worth of oil miraculously burning for 8 days during the rededication of the Temple.

Different cultures have different traditions, though. The candlelighting is Jewniversal. It's not really a very important holiday, but since it usually coincides with Christmas, it becomes a big deal in diverse settings.

Fortunately, it's not as marketable. Hallmark and Coca Cola have yet to invent the Chanukkah Chinchilla.

What about the Hanukkah Bush? XD

...Jewniversal...

LMAO! :D

Chanukkah remembers when the Jews successfully rebelled against the Greeks who controlled Israel at the time - specifically, they defeated Antiochus, one of Alexander the Great's generals.

While a bunch of Jewish partisans defeating the same armies that had conquered the known world under Alexander the Great is unlikely enough, what happened AFTERWARDS was a miracle. When the Jews retook the desecrated temple, they decided to relight the great menorah inside. Unfortunately, they only found a day's worth of oil that was fit for use in the temple. The nearest supply was an 8-day round trip away. Miraculously, the one-day supply lasted for eight days!

So we light menorahs to remember this miracle. Each menorah has eight branches, one for each day of the miracle, plus a ninth branch that holds the shamesh - the candle used to light the others. On the first night, we light one candle (and the shamesh). On the second night, we light two, and so on and so forth.

Presents are given out on Chanukkah in order to
Prevent the Jewish kids from feeling left out of Christmas
Take advantage of Christmas sales

Actually, it used to be that presents were given out on ALL Jewish holidays.

glad to hear it went well..Second graders can be a bitch, but damned if they can't be awesome sometimes too.


Also, the hanukkah story that we have today would, in fact, make hanukkah a holiday, not a celebration.

The true story is a bit more..dull.

Greeks attack Jews. Jews want to win on Sukkot (one of three holidays you're supposed to observe, yet few do), but were unable to. When they finally did win, they observed sukkot.

Learned that bit back in Y'chad, but perhaps the teacher was a nut job...its happened before. Keru, you hear anything like this before?

LMAO! :D
You like that? how about, "just Jew it" and the famous "Jewdar"? [/bad Jew puns]

basically, the 8 days are a celebration of the victory of the Jewish freedom fighters, the Macabees, against the Greeks, who were occupying the land of Israel at the time. Subsequently, the (Jewish) Hasmonean Kings were instated in Israel. It celebrates the re-purification of the temple that had been descacrated by the invaders. Like the others said, the 8 days are for the 8 days that the oil lasted in the temple's lamp when it should have only lasted for one (the famous miracle) - since there must always be a light in the temple at all times. That is why, if you go into any synagogoue, you'll see one light above the altar that's alwyas lighted.

yay hannukah food. mmmmm *dreams*

glad to hear it went well..Second graders can be a bitch, but damned if they can't be awesome sometimes too.


Also, the hanukkah story that we have today would, in fact, make hanukkah a holiday, not a celebration.

The true story is a bit more..dull.

Greeks attack Jews. Jews want to win on Sukkot (one of three holidays you're supposed to observe, yet few do), but were unable to. When they finally did win, they observed sukkot.

Learned that bit back in Y'chad, but perhaps the teacher was a nut job...its happened before. Keru, you hear anything like this before?I've heard this before too, actually. I think it makes lots of sense.

EDIT: BTW, Keruvalia, you need a cooler kippa. That one is so last century europe.

I've heard this before too, actually. I think it makes lots of sense.

EDIT: BTW, Keruvalia, you need a cooler kippa. That one is so last century europe.
hell of a lot more sense than 2 days of oil lasting 8 days. But then again, the OT wasn't exactly big on making sense. (okay, yeah, its in the Talmud [iirc]. but still. old school jewtexts.)

EDIT: and what is wrong with last century europe? ya know...aside from the pogrums and such...

hell of a lot more sense than 2 days of oil lasting 8 days. But then again, the OT wasn't exactly big on making sense. (okay, yeah, its in the Talmud [iirc]. but still. old school jewtexts.)

EDIT: and what is wrong with last century europe? ya know...aside from the pogrums and such...
Well, there's always endless debates among talmud and old testament scholars about the historicity of various documents. There are always many layers in a given text, that have elements of history, social commentary, political direction etc. embedded in them. the people that added the miracle element to the story of the rebellion had specific purposes in doing so, very different from the speciiffic ideological or religious drives of the people who were involved in the rebellion, or the first people wh recorded it, for that matter. Pretty intesting stuff.

Last century Europe had negative style sense. that 's what's wrong with it.

Well, there's always endless debates among talmud and old testament scholars about the historicity of various documents. There are always many layers in a given text, that have elements of history, social commentary, political direction etc. embedded in them. the people that added the miracle element to the story of the rebellion had specific purposes in doing so, very different from the speciiffic ideological or religious drives of the people who were involved in the rebellion, or the first people wh recorded it, for that matter. Pretty intesting stuff.

Last century Europe had negative style sense. that 's what's wrong with it.
http://www.costumes.org/history/victorian/women/fashionplates/1896hat.jpg
come on! the sheer horrific plumage makes it disgustingly appealing!


and torah/talmud scholars are all either insane or brilliant...such as looking for the number of god.

1. OMG...you are a sexay beast Keruv! Though you remind me of Mick Foley from WWE...

A comparison I have yet to have had, but thanks for the compliment. :)

EDIT: Oh yes...BTW, what type of questions did the little kinderlach ask? ;p

The usual: "Do you believe in Jesus?" "Which happened first, Jesus or Hanukkah?" "Why do you wear that little hat?" etc etc

Some I could answer, others I could not. Public school and all.

EDIT: BTW, Keruvalia, you need a cooler kippa. That one is so last century europe.

Yes, I know. I had thought about it and decided to go with a more conservative look, hence the black kippah with silver trim and the black striped talit under a black jacket.

Kind of a decorum thing. I didn't want these children thinking Jews were some kind of clowns. Not that there's anything wrong with clowns or more modern jew-wear designs, but it's also why I didn't use a bunch of cartoony stuff in the slide show.

If it were a bunch of Jewish kids, my look would be a lot different. :D

LMAO! :D

Hehehe ... yeah I like that word. :)

The usual: "Do you believe in Jesus?" "Which happened first, Jesus or Hanukkah?" "Why do you wear that little hat?" etc etc
Ah, so cute, so precocious, so worthy of all the death and pain that I may some day heap upon their heads. I just love children.

And now that I have seen what the Keruvalia looks like, my world has again been upset. I pictured you a lot of ways, but I would never have been able to imagine that hair, suit, and body structure combination without seriously spraining something in my head.

Very professional gesticulation.. I can spot the Clintonian half-point, as well as the ever-effective GHW Bush "Million Points of Light" fingertip maneuver.. very slick. :)

Rofl ... it got me 5/7ths of the 2nd graders' votes in the election.

Actually, there is one funny part of the video where one young boy asks if they can have the dreidels I'd brought to show them and I mention that I had given the teachers projects that everyone would make their own to take home and this was met with thunderous applause.

I got a nice smattering of "ahhhhh!" with a little applause when I mentioned the Maccabees won after three years of rebellion (no, I didn't go into the fact that the Maccabeean revolt look very, very much like the Iraqi insurgency now, but I really wanted to) especially after informing them that children were hanged alongside their mothers when refusing to make sacrifice to the Syrian gods ... but it was nothing compared to the thunderous roar upon finding out they'd get their own dreidels. :D Hooray children!

And now that I have seen what the Keruvalia looks like, my world has again been upset. I pictured you a lot of ways, but I would never have been able to imagine that hair, suit, and body structure combination without seriously spraining something in my head.

I've been told that I'm the biggest pacifist some people have ever seen. I'm a large man ... 6'4, 220 ... lumberjack hairy ... but I don't even squash bugs.

I've been told that I'm the biggest pacifist some people have ever seen. I'm a large man ... 6'4, 220 ... lumberjack hairy ... but I don't even squash bugs.
Do you at least forcibly intimidate the bugs into giving up their lunch money? That much bulk should not go wasted on complete pacifism.

Some I could answer, others I could not. Public school and all.
I'm still shocked they would stop you from teaching about religion...but I guess thats America for ya.

Do you at least forcibly intimidate the bugs into giving up their lunch money? That much bulk should not go wasted on complete pacifism.

I shoo them out into the yard with a firm voice. Is that enough?

I'm still shocked they would stop you from teaching about religion...but I guess thats America for ya.

Well ... contrary to some of my fellow screaming liberal-leftists, separation of church and state is actually still alive and well in the US.

i'm just surprised that there are so many of us jews around here.
of, and i'm amused that at least 2 of the jews on these forums look like the traditional christian verson of yeshua ha'nozri (jesus of nazereth for those who have no idea who that is)

Well ... contrary to some of my fellow screaming liberal-leftists, separation of church and state is actually still alive and well in the US.
i'd say so, but not as much as it should be, in my opinion

I shoo them out into the yard with a firm voice. Is that enough?
If you promise me that your manner is both dynamic and threatening when shooing, I suppose that is what I will have to settle for. Damn you and your Jewing Ways.

i'm just surprised that there are so many of us jews around here.
of, and i'm amused that at least 2 of the jews on these forums look like the traditional christian verson of yeshua ha'nozri (jesus of nazereth for those who have no idea who that is)

Rofl ... well .... long hair and beardedness is essential ... but my eyes are a bright, bright blue ... I don't think Jesus had those. But, who knows ... there wasn't any photography in the day ... maybe he did ... but, then, maybe he had 8 tentacles and exhaled chlorine gas ... the world may never know.

i'm just surprised that there are so many of us jews around here.
of, and i'm amused that at least 2 of the jews on these forums look like the traditional christian verson of yeshua ha'nozri (jesus of nazereth for those who have no idea who that is)
Ooh! ooh! am I one of them?

i'd say so, but not as much as it should be, in my opinion

Meh ... I think it's fine. I'm not afraid of a little Jesus symbology here and there and it doesn't make me any less of a person if someone quotes from the Upanishads (pardon my awful spelling) in a classroom somewhere and I'm cool if a child wants to know if I worship Jesus, but I hate that I can't answer.

I am 150% in favor of separating church and state, but you cannot separate church and people. That would be 200% rude.

Rofl ... well .... long hair and beardedness is essential ... but my eyes are a bright, bright blue ... I don't think Jesus had those. But, who knows ... there wasn't any photography in the day ... maybe he did ... but, then, maybe he had 8 tentacles and exhaled chlorine gas ... the world may never know.
im pretty sure he was human. most humans i know don't have tentacles or exhale chlorine

If you promise me that your manner is both dynamic and threatening when shooing, I suppose that is what I will have to settle for. Damn you and your Jewing Ways.

Everything I do, from baking bread to washing my scrotum, is both dynamic and threatening.

im pretty sure he was human. most humans i know don't have tentacles or exhale chlorine

Then you're not hangin' out with the right people!

Ooh! ooh! am I one of them?
i dunno, i have no idea what you look like. it was meant to be me.
interestin idea: next time somebody tells me i look like jesus i'm going to ask who the hell jesus is and why he goes around impersonating me

im pretty sure he was human. most humans i know don't have tentacles or exhale chlorine
By saying most you are admitting that you know at least one person who has both tentacles and chlorine exhalations! Caught you in your own game, now whose the fool?

Then you're not hangin' out with the right people!
where can i find them? it'd be awesome to know some people like that.
<must not think about tentacle pr0n, real or animated>

By saying most you are admitting that you know at least one person who has both tentacles and chlorine exhalations! Caught you in your own game, now whose the fool?
you, for using whose instead of who's :p

you, for using whose instead of who's :p
And you, for not capitalizing the beginning of your sentenze. Now that we have established mutual fool status, lets go get rat-assed together!

i dunno, i have no idea what you look like. it was meant to be me.
interestin idea: next time somebody tells me i look like jesus i'm going to ask who the hell jesus is and why he goes around impersonating me
Your picture isn't in the profile thread. You could be lying through you teeth; for all I know, you look like the flying spaghetti monster, not jesus. I, on the other hand, have my cards on the table.

And you, for not capitalizing the beginning of your sentenze. Now that we have established mutual fool status, lets go get rat-assed together!
w00t, i've been sober for too long. bloody exams :headbang:

Your picture isn't in the profile thread. You could be lying through you teeth; for all I know, you look like the flying spaghetti monster, not jesus. I, on the other hand, have my cards on the table.
i'll update it when i can, i have no pics of me with the beard and hair currently. though i'll try and find the one which i used when asking everyone if i'm cute (long story)

hmm, don't remember that thread. I'd be happy to oblige though, ask away!

http://images.faces.com/h195/w130/141038.jpg
http://images.faces.com/h195/w130/367074.jpg
here are some pics of me, i currently have much more of a beard and more hair, which is slightly straiter now
the first one i put up on here because people at uni were calling me cute and i was having trouble dealing with it, so i asked everyone on NS, who mostly said yes

I'm still shocked they would stop you from teaching about religion...but I guess thats America for ya.
sorry...twas off admitting some guilty pleasures.


anyway...yeah, definatly alive and well, but up in my area teaching ABOUT religion is okay, but teaching religion itself isnt. odd, no?

and yes, there are quite a few jesus looking jews lurking around this forum. Perhaps one of said people is the anti christ? (if it wern't for my hatred of having long hair on myself, and my love of piercings, I might have a shot in that running)

http://images.faces.com/h195/w130/141038.jpg
http://images.faces.com/h195/w130/367074.jpg
here are some pics of me, i currently have much more of a beard and more hair, which is slightly straiter now
the first one i put up on here because people at uni were calling me cute and i was having trouble dealing with it, so i asked everyone on NS, who mostly said yes
http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Graphics.Jehovah/my.LORD.Jesus.JPG

and yes, there are quite a few jesus looking jews lurking around this forum. Perhaps one of said people is the anti christ? (if it wern't for my hatred of having long hair on myself, and my love of piercings, I might have a shot in that running)
the worrying thing is that i've been nicknamed "jihad jesus" by some of my friends around uni

http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Graphics.Jehovah/my.LORD.Jesus.JPG
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the first one i put up on here because people at uni were calling me cute and i was having trouble dealing with it, so i asked everyone on NS, who mostly said yes
I'd have to agree with most NSers then. Not quite up to the par of Keru's chest, but still rather fetching. The classic overgrown hippie look is hard to go wrong with.

I'd have to agree with most NSers then. Not quite up to the par of Keru's chest, but still rather fetching. The classic overgrown hippie look is hard to go wrong with.
hey, looking this good is a pretty big thing for a Computer Systems Engineering student to achieve

the worrying thing is that i've been nicknamed "jihad jesus" by some of my friends around uni
haha...now THAT is a good nickname.

and for the picture, just type jesus into google image search. One looked shockingly like you, but I'm too lazy to fix the link

haha...now THAT is a good nickname.

and for the picture, just type jesus into google image search. One looked shockingly like you, but I'm too lazy to fix the link
as long as i get the point that the pic looks like me, i don't really need to see it.
i'm actually jihad jesus on the forums that they go on, i have a +5 flamethrower.
oh and i went to a holloween cocktail party as jihad jesus

hey, looking this good is a pretty big thing for a Computer Systems Engineering student to achieveyeah, not shaving and refraining from cutting your hair is pretty taxing. But fine, I concede; you look more like jesus than me

yeah, not shaving and refraining from cutting your hair is pretty taxing. But fine, I concede; you look more like jesus than me
no, the fact that i actually look good like that. and the fact that almost every other engineering student shaves and gets his hair cut
EDIT: yay, i look like jesus and you ahven't even seen the more recent pics of me (2 months newer)

*shudder* I hope you're into conditioner.

*shudder* I hope you're into conditioner.
when necessary, my shampoo does pretty well on it's own

http://images.faces.com/h195/w130/141038.jpg
http://images.faces.com/h195/w130/367074.jpg

HA! You look more like a terrorist than I do! I WIN! :D

Actually ... ummm ... you're pretty dead sexy yourself .... right up there with Pure Metal on NS General men I wouldn't kick out of my bed. (sorry if that offends you)

as long as i get the point that the pic looks like me, i don't really need to see it.
i'm actually jihad jesus on the forums that they go on, i have a +5 flamethrower.
oh and i went to a holloween cocktail party as jihad jesus
I can just see jesus, white robes, birkenstocks, and a flame thrower...reminds me of that scene from family guy

HA! You look more like a terrorist than I do! I WIN! :D

Actually ... ummm ... you're pretty dead sexy yourself .... right up there with Pure Metal on NS General men I wouldn't kick out of my bed. (sorry if that offends you)
haha...I think he wins just because you have a bigger build...jesus was a lanky little bastard.

I can just see jesus, white robes, birkenstocks, and a flame thrower...reminds me of that scene from family guy
what, you mean "jesus and moses used guns to defeat the romans"?

haha...I think he wins just because you have a bigger build...jesus was a lanky little bastard.

And a shorty to boot! By many counts, he was only like 5'9 ... dude ... my Mom is 5'9!

HA! You look more like a terrorist than I do! I WIN! :D

Actually ... ummm ... you're pretty dead sexy yourself .... right up there with Pure Metal on NS General men I wouldn't kick out of my bed. (sorry if that offends you)
offends me? no, it turns me on <starts drooling>
maybe that was going a bit too far, i am strictly buttered side up

And a shorty to boot! By many counts, he was only like 5'9 ... dude ... my Mom is 5'9!
dude, you're mum isn't jesus. my mum is 5'.
i'm a bit below average height. i wonder why <cough - heredity>

what, you mean "jesus and moses used guns to defeat the romans"?
yep...thats the one

And a shorty to boot! By many counts, he was only like 5'9 ... dude ... my Mom is 5'9! to be fair, everyone was short(er). your mom is the same height as my dad...god I love recessive genes that let me be taller than everyone else in my family by a good 3 inches (my mom is 5'11" on her right leg...left is 5'10" after a car accident.

offends me? no, it turns me on <starts drooling>

Hooray!

Now 30% of NS General thinks we're "gross".

I like those odds.

dude, you're mum isn't jesus. my mum is 5'.
i'm a bit below average height. i wonder why <cough - heredity>

She might be .... a Jewish mother ... if we don't think of her as Jesus, we get the back of her hand ....

Ok ok ok ... Jewish guilt aside ... she is very tall.

Hooray!

Now 30% of NS General thinks we're "gross".

I like those odds.
yeah, but they aren't the fun half. On that note, I might be inclined to share my extra long (read:extra narrow) lofted twin bed if I were to find either of you in there...although Keru might force me into a small space precariously near the large drop.

Hooray!

Now 30% of NS General thinks we're "gross".

I like those odds.
that's only because they don't know me well enough, otherwise it'd be 70%

to be fair, everyone was short(er). your mom is the same height as my dad...

Heh ... well I got some of those funny "tall Irish woman" genes floating around. Hell ... even I'm surprised at how tall my mother is sometimes.

yeah, but they aren't the fun half. On that note, I might be inclined to share my extra long (read:extra narrow) lofted twin bed if I were to find either of you in there...although Keru might force me into a small space precariously near the large drop.

No no no ... I may be a big guy, but I surprisingly take up very little space. Besides ... I prefer the floor.

that's only because they don't know me well enough, otherwise it'd be 70%

Well welcome to the club .... :D

out of fairness...

hot, wet, male/male action (http://community.webshots.com/photo/417202922/417211330VYTxDs)

closer up (http://community.webshots.com/photo/417202922/417212293iKbWfO)

although, I now have my ears pierced at 10g

Well welcome to the club .... :D
that's it, we should probably start a filthy jews club on NS general now

No no no ... I may be a big guy, but I surprisingly take up very little space. Besides ... I prefer the floor.
compared to my bed up here, the floor is nice. this bed kills my back (yet I spend most of my time here cuz my laptop is up here)

out of fairness...

hot, wet, male/male action (http://community.webshots.com/photo/417202922/417211330VYTxDs)

closer up (http://community.webshots.com/photo/417202922/417212293iKbWfO)

although, I now have my ears pierced at 10g


You're pretty ... no denying that ... but you need to stop cutting your hair! Men are supposed to have hair, damnit!

I notice you're doing some swim thing ... well guess what? I can swim! I swim better than many people, even with all my hairyness! So come on ... grow some fur!

that's it, we should probably start a filthy jews club on NS general now

YES! That would be hilarious :D

You're pretty ... no denying that ... but you need to stop cutting your hair! Men are supposed to have hair, damnit!
haha...I cant deal with how it feels over my ears...but you aren't the first to suggest I grow it out. Of course, that picture was taken right after a haircut and shaving. I currently look a bit more ape-like, particularly since I havent shaved in a week or so

You're pretty ... no denying that ... but you need to stop cutting your hair! Men are supposed to have hair, damnit!
agreed, on both counts. If there's a dirty Jew club, I think we aught to have a christian baby kiddush lunch on the house once in a while.

YES! That would be hilarious :D
i wonder how long it would take before they lock the thread?

haha...I cant deal with how it feels over my ears...but you aren't the first to suggest I grow it out. Of course, that picture was taken right after a haircut and shaving. I currently look a bit more ape-like, particularly since I havent shaved in a week or so

Oh screw your ears ... men are designed to have long hair. It is the male in all other species that contain the "prettiness".

Lions have manes.
Peacocks haves the big feathers.

It is the birthright of our sex! Grow some hair! It is our plumage!

agreed, on both counts. If there's a dirty Jew club, I think we aught to have a christian baby kiddush lunch on the house once in a while.
of course, but baby needs to be coocked just before eating, so that may be a problem if we're being properly jewish

Oh screw your ears ... men are designed to have long hair. It is the male in all other species that contain the "prettiness".

Lions have manes.
Peacocks haves the big feathers.

It is the birthright of our sex! Grow some hair! It is our plumage!
can we count the fact that right now it is fire engine red as plumage?

I will admit that I may grow it out this winter...a shaved head gets mighty cold in winter.

Oh screw your ears ... men are designed to have long hair. It is the male in all other species that contain the "prettiness".

Lions have manes.
Peacocks haves the big feathers.

It is the birthright of our sex! Grow some hair! It is our plumage!
of course, who isn't up for the lubavitch look?

i wonder how long it would take before they lock the thread?

Depends on how Jewish and how Gay it gets.

No matter ... if we started that thread, it would probably stay open, and the clean shaven Christians would scream "PERSECUTION!!!"

Not that I'm opposed to making them scream that, but hey ....

Depends on how Jewish and how Gay it gets.

No matter ... if we started that thread, it would probably stay open, and the clean shaven Christians would scream "PERSECUTION!!!"

Not that I'm opposed to making them scream that, but hey ....
they scream persecution and we call them morons, it'll be fine
and i won't get too gay, i'll just probably say some stuff about women that i shouldn't

of course, who isn't up for the lubavitch look?

Hehehehe ... I don't think I own a Fedora. :D

Though I do often get asked if I'm Hassidic.

Of course, my mother's father is Breslov, so I always say, "Yes ... so?"

broil baby in sauce of virgins blood for 30 minutes (35 for extra crispy) in oven at 350 degrees. Season to taste. Garnish with puppy ears and kitty tails.GET THE TRAIF OUT OF THIS THREAD

so basicly, it would be this thread with a different title?

broil baby in sauce of virgins blood for 30 minutes (35 for extra crispy) in oven at 350 degrees. Season to taste. Garnish with puppy ears and kitty tails.
yeah, but none of those are kosher and we can't cook it on the saturday because we shouldn't work on the sabbath. admittedly, almost no jews keep kosher and most work on the sabbath

.... i'll just probably say some stuff about women that i shouldn't
Hey, watch it

so basicly, it would be this thread with a different title?
yeah, at some stage the mods will come into this thread and tell us to get back on topic. that won't happen on the other thread because this will be the point of it

yeah, but none of those are kosher and we can't cook it on the saturday because we shouldn't work on the sabbath. admittedly, almost no jews keep kosher and most work on the sabbath
oddly, when she remembers (which, admittedly, is becoming less often) my grandma still keeps the sabbath holy. My grandpa (who is also jewish) just walks around the dark condo mumbling "jesus christ". Quite the couple, they are.

yeah, but none of those are kosher

You sure? I'm reasonably sure Christians are cloven hooved cud chewers ... they do often compare themselves to sheep.

Oooh ... ok ... sorry ... that was just fuckin' rude ... I really promise I'll stop now.

Hey, watch it
of course i am, that's why i try and be sober on these forums, despite what it says my location is

yeah, at some stage the mods will come into this thread and tell us to get back on topic. that won't happen on the other thread because this will be the point of it

It's my topic, it's my thread. It's a Jewish topic and any Jewish insight is welcome, even if the goyisher Mods think it's "off topic".

You sure? I'm reasonably sure Christians are cloven hooved cud chewers ... they do often compare themselves to sheep.

Oooh ... ok ... sorry ... that was just fuckin' rude ... I really promise I'll stop now.
it was incredibly rude but incredibly hilarious, i can't stop laughing, i should try that on someone at some stage
btw. no blood is kosher

yeah, at some stage the mods will come into this thread and tell us to get back on topic. that won't happen on the other thread because this will be the point of it
well, we're still discussing judaism...kinda...

It's my topic, it's my thread. It's a Jewish topic and any Jewish insight is welcome, even if the goyisher Mods think it's "off topic".
yes, but the goyisher mods are the ones who have the power to lock and unlock the threads

You sure? I'm reasonably sure Christians are cloven hooved cud chewers ... they do often compare themselves to sheep.

Oooh ... ok ... sorry ... that was just fuckin' rude ... I really promise I'll stop now.
horrible...yet somewhat awesome. And my roommate is looking at me like i'm insane for laughing about it.

oddly, when she remembers (which, admittedly, is becoming less often) my grandma still keeps the sabbath holy.

Ah with mine, the Sabbath is treated like some great old family friend is coming over. It's a HUGE deal. Shabbat is welcomed with great open arms and glad tidings.

Even though I am now religiously a Muslim, I still greet the sabbath this way. But, hey, so did Father Abraham, so I'm cool.

well, we're still discussing judaism...kinda...
well, i guess everything we're saying can be said to be from a jewish veiwpoint

Ah with mine, the Sabbath is treated like some great old family friend is coming over. It's a HUGE deal. Shabbat is welcomed with great open arms and glad tidings.

Even though I am now religiously a Muslim, I still greet the sabbath this way. But, hey, so did Father Abraham, so I'm cool.
at my house, nothing happens anymore, we don't have the time to do anything special on the sabbath nowadays :(

yes, but the goyisher mods are the ones who have the power to lock and unlock the threads

Aye ... but only Hashem has the power to supress thought. ;)

Aye ... but only Hashem has the power to supress thought. ;)
true, but he just view this as putting us through a test of adversity

Ah with mine, the Sabbath is treated like some great old family friend is coming over. It's a HUGE deal. Shabbat is welcomed with great open arms and glad tidings.

Even though I am now religiously a Muslim, I still greet the sabbath this way. But, hey, so did Father Abraham, so I'm cool.
my house, we still light the candles...make a bit of a bigger deal the months my grandparents are up...despite the fact that my dad is now reform/non practicing, my mom is non practicing episcopalian (yeah yeah, I'm not a real jew...kill me), god knows what my sister is, and I'm somewhere in my own little religion

at my house, nothing happens anymore, we don't have the time to do anything special on the sabbath nowadays :(

Oh every sabbath is greeted with open arms and great joyousness. We have great foods and singing and powerful celebration.

I wish you lived closer to me. You could hear the Azzan, bow towards Abraham's kabbah with me and greet the Sabbath with all the joy and reverence it deserves.

Don't have the time? We make the time.

true, but he just view this as putting us through a test of adversity

Dayenu.

You are correct.

my house, we still light the candles...make a bit of a bigger deal the months my grandparents are up...despite the fact that my dad is now reform/non practicing, my mom is non practicing episcopalian (yeah yeah, I'm not a real jew...kill me), god knows what my sister is, and I'm somewhere in my own little religion
speaking of your own religion. i have realised that the universe is probably just a giganctic computer program, which makes god a gamer and raises the possibility of god being a counter-strike n00b, which slightly annoys me

Oh every sabbath is greeted with open arms and great joyousness. We have great foods and singing and powerful celebration.

I wish you lived closer to me. You could hear the Azzan, bow towards Abraham's kabbah with me and greet the Sabbath with all the joy and reverence it deserves.

Don't have the time? We make the time.
we're not as heavily religious as we used to be, unfortunately.

speaking of your own religion. i have realised that the universe is probably just a giganctic computer program, which makes god a gamer and raises the possibility of god being a counter-strike n00b, which slightly annoys me

If God is a gamer, I truly hope He doesn't play World of Warcraft .... do you have any idea how much it would suck to have to go through 4 levels of an "Instance" to gain Paradise?

Yikes.

so as much as I don't follow judaism, I still love going to services every now and then. I love the prayers...

not to mention the apple bread they have every friday night.

we're not as heavily religious as we used to be, unfortunately.


That's ok ... God is not religious.

If God is a gamer, I truly hope He doesn't play World of Warcraft .... do you have any idea how much it would suck to have to go through 4 levels of an "Instance" to gain Paradise?

Yikes.
yeah, exactly. now you may understand why i may have a small crisis of faith.
anyway, off to have dinner with friends. although they're all goyim, they're amusing, at least

yeah, exactly. now you may understand why i may have a small crisis of faith.
anyway, off to have dinner with friends. although they're all goyim, they're amusing, at least
damn time change...its 3:07 here.

edit: thats AM.

yeah, exactly. now you may understand why i may have a small crisis of faith.
anyway, off to have dinner with friends. although they're all goyim, they're amusing, at least

Good! Diversity is Hashem's design. Have a good time, drink some booze, eat some good food, and share some fellowship with other human beings.

In doing that, you're fulfilling Isaiah. :) (those same Isaiah passages that Christians think lead to Jesus).

Who knew that the Messiah would be good, honest, human relations? No ... they need a physical body ... silly Christians. ;)

Good! Diversity is Hashem's design. Have a good time, drink some booze, eat some good food, and share some fellowship with other human beings.

In doing that, you're fulfillinf Isaiah. :)
ah yes...the true meanings of what religion should be! Epicurean? maybe. But make life a lot better and more fun? definatly.

ah yes...the true meanings of what religion should be! Epicurean? maybe. But make life a lot better and more fun? definatly.

Oops ... I edited mine .. ;)

Oops ... I edited mine .. ;)
haha...fine. I'm (kinda) Jewish, and my (tiny ammount of) authority says to go out and party.

and yeah, a physical body helps with that. alot.


can an abstraction get drunk?

hey wow dude, you remind me of.... me :fluffle:
seperated at birth? :eek: ;)

....The candlelighting is Jewniversal...


Haha, I enjoyed that. :)

It's not really a very important holiday, but since it usually coincides with Christmas, it becomes a big deal in diverse settings.

You're welcome. :D

Isn't Yom Kippur one of the more "important" ones?

Fortunately, it's not as marketable. Hallmark and Coca Cola have yet to invent the Chanukkah Chinchilla.

Lucky you. As my ex-preacher said, "there's a difference between X-mas and Christmas."

You sure? I'm reasonably sure Christians are cloven hooved cud chewers ... they do often compare themselves to sheep.

Oooh ... ok ... sorry ... that was just fuckin' rude ... I really promise I'll stop now.

You'd better...

>_>

Keruvalia giving me a boner is becoming quite the common occurrence.

You sure? I'm reasonably sure Christians are cloven hooved cud chewers ... they do often compare themselves to sheep.

Oooh ... ok ... sorry ... that was just fuckin' rude ... I really promise I'll stop now.


That was deliberately rude, but you're forgiven.

We all know you'll be a Christian at some point down the road.

Keruvalia giving me a boner is becoming quite the common occurrence.

Oh.....that's nice..... o.O

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here are some pics of me, i currently have much more of a beard and more hair, which is slightly straiter now
the first one i put up on here because people at uni were calling me cute and i was having trouble dealing with it, so i asked everyone on NS, who mostly said yes

You are cute. And you do resemble jesus...ish...

out of fairness...

hot, wet, male/male action (http://community.webshots.com/photo/417202922/417211330VYTxDs)

closer up (http://community.webshots.com/photo/417202922/417212293iKbWfO)

although, I now have my ears pierced at 10g

You're good looking too. What is it with all the hott Jewish guys? I know tons of them, but all of them want to marry a nice Jewish girl, what's wrong with me??

That was deliberately rude, but you're forgiven.

Thanks.

We all know you'll be a Christian at some point down the road.

Nah ... the idea of praying to God through a person or in someone's name is, well, distasteful to me.

Keruvalia giving me a boner is becoming quite the common occurrence.

Hooray!

Since I live in a city with the largest Jewish population in the world(NY does have more jews than Jerusalem right?) people know more about Channukah than your average person. But there are some people here who need "Jewducation", like the idiot in my class last year who memorably said "But you shouldn't be celebrating Thanksgiving, you're Jewish!"
:rolleyes:

I preceded to tell him Jews do celebrate Thanksgiving, just with human sacrifices;) That shut him up pretty quick.

Nah ... the idea of praying to God through a person or in someone's name is, well, distasteful to me.


Still all condescending, or am I reading that wrong?

Still all condescending, or am I reading that wrong?

If you're standing upside down with your head in a fishbowl, you may be reading it wrong. Otherwise, you're reading just fine.

The intent, however, was not to be condescending. If it were, I would not have included the "to me" at the end of the sentence.

You're good looking too. What is it with all the hott Jewish guys? I know tons of them, but all of them want to marry a nice Jewish girl, what's wrong with me??
you can't give jewish children a proper guilt trip.

You're good looking too. What is it with all the hott Jewish guys? I know tons of them, but all of them want to marry a nice Jewish girl, what's wrong with me??
Weird, I've got the opposite problem. I know lots of hot Jewish guys too, but they are largely jerkish. I wouldn't marry them in a million years.

Rofl ... well .... long hair and beardedness is essential ... but my eyes are a bright, bright blue ... I don't think Jesus had those. But, who knows ... there wasn't any photography in the day ... maybe he did ... but, then, maybe he had 8 tentacles and exhaled chlorine gas ... the world may never know.

in a jesus video we watched in re jesus has REALLY light blue eyes, and on plumage male ducks are the colourful one.