NationStates Jolt Archive


It was 25 years ago today.

Cwazybushland
08-12-2005, 22:37
John Lennon, October 9, 1940- December 8, 1980. The Liverpoolian guitarest made famous with his English rock group "The Beatles" who would change music and the way people lived forever.

There is probably a thread out there, but I couldnt come across it, so I will post a thread asking you what was your favorite John Lennon song? It could be from when he was with the Beatles to when he was on his own. So, which is it?

For me, it's easy, All You Need Is Love.

Or Help, Help is good.
Sinuhue
08-12-2005, 22:43
Lennon. The man people love to love...or love to hate. I'm of the former.

Oh, and of course...Imagine. It pretty much sums up my wish for the future.
Cwazybushland
08-12-2005, 22:51
Lennon. The man people love to love...or love to hate. I'm of the former.

Oh, and of course...Imagine. It pretty much sums up my wish for the future.

Thats always a crowd pleaser.
Sinuhue
08-12-2005, 22:53
Thats always a crowd pleaser.
Not really. Plenty of people hate that song and the politics it represents.
Keruvalia
08-12-2005, 22:57
"Working Class Hero" and "Woman is the ****** of the World".
Bunnyducks
08-12-2005, 22:58
Oh. Better not push for that 'Working class hero' lyrics bit then...
Let's post this instead: "Some of you sitting there with your cock in your hand
Don't get you nowhere don't make you a man"

Hair Peace!
Aust
08-12-2005, 23:02
RIP a great man-Lennon Legend. There was so much more he could have done...they say he would have joined up with mcartiny again....and of course his best quote "Where bigger than jesus now!" He was right as well.
Sinuhue
08-12-2005, 23:02
"Working Class Hero" and "Woman is the ****** of the World (http://www.john-lennon.com/songlyrics/songs/Woman_is_the_******_of_the_World.htm)".
Woman is the ****** of the world
Yes she is...think about it
Woman is the ****** of the world
Think about it...do something about it

We make her paint her face and dance
If she won’t be slave, we say that she don’t love us
If she’s real, we say she’s trying to be a man
While putting her down we pretend that she is above us
Sinuhue
08-12-2005, 23:04
RIP a great man-Lennon Legend. There was so much more he could have done...they say he would have joined up with mcartiny again....and of course his best quote "We're bigger than jesus now!" He was right as well.
Whether he joined back up with any of the other Beatles again, he sure would have been prolific...I really wonder what could have been, had his life not been cut short. Kind of like Victor Jara actually (not the same situation, but the fact that they had many years of creativity left to them).
Willamena
08-12-2005, 23:07
Let It Be
Aust
08-12-2005, 23:10
Whether he joined back up with any of the other Beatles again, he sure would have been prolific...I really wonder what could have been, had his life not been cut short. Kind of like Victor Jara actually (not the same situation, but the fact that they had many years of creativity left to them).
Who???

Lenoon was planning a reunion with mcartinary, it would have been great to see what they could ahve produced together, but that possablitlty was cut short by a maniac.
Keruvalia
08-12-2005, 23:12
Woman is the ****** of the world
Yes she is...think about it
Woman is the ****** of the world
Think about it...do something about it

We make her paint her face and dance
If she won’t be slave, we say that she don’t love us
If she’s real, we say she’s trying to be a man
While putting her down we pretend that she is above us

One of my favorites from his solo years. :) Gives me goodebumps.

But, then, I'm a feminist.
Bunnyducks
08-12-2005, 23:13
Who???

Lenoon was planning a reunion with mcartinary, it would have been great to see what they could ahve produced together, but that possablitlty was cut short by a maniac.
Hey! Another drunkard! I agree 100% (at this point of the evening).
Aust
08-12-2005, 23:14
Hey! Another drunkard! I agree 100% (at this point of the evening).
Wasn#t he religious extreamist?
Sinuhue
08-12-2005, 23:14
Who???

Lenoon was planning a reunion with mcartinary, it would have been great to see what they could ahve produced together, but that possablitlty was cut short by a maniac.
Victor Jara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Jara), a very famous Chilean singer, with very similar political leanings to Lennon. He was murdered in the coup of 73...for some reason, I always think of one, when I think of the other. I think it's because both were very passionate, and likely to continue their political work...and would still be around to inspire us, had their lives not been taken.
Bunnyducks
08-12-2005, 23:16
Wasn#t he religious extreamist?Lennon, Chapman, me or you? you really have to be more precise....
Keruvalia
08-12-2005, 23:19
I remember analysts all over the news for like 2 years pouring over JD Salinger's "The Catcher in the Rye" word by word trying to find Chapman's motivation.

They also played "Yesterday" over the loudspeakers in our school instead of saying the Pledge of Allegiance for a week.
Kameridoru
09-12-2005, 01:38
I can't believe that John Lennon was killed because some guy from Hawaii was extremely religious. Some say that he killed John because he thought that John was the Anti-Christ. How messed up is that?

Here's something interesting: Chapman was actually going to kill him in November but his wife stopped him. In December, he threatened her at gunpoint so that he could go.

My favorite songs: Imagine, Love, Give Peace a Chance, and Woman is the ****** of the World
Bodies Without Organs
09-12-2005, 02:16
Victor Jara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Jara), a very famous Chilean singer, with very similar political leanings to Lennon. He was murdered in the coup of 73...

... the other September 11th, the one which the US is trying to forget.


Gimme Some Truth for me.
Bodies Without Organs
09-12-2005, 02:19
They also played "Yesterday" over the loudspeakers in our school instead of saying the Pledge of Allegiance for a week.


...someone fucked up on their research there: Yesterday was penned by McCartney.
Letila
09-12-2005, 02:30
Wasn't he really rich but a socialist anyway?
Bunnyducks
09-12-2005, 02:46
Wasn't he really rich but a socialist anyway?
No. He was a really rich Maoist.
Cwazybushland
09-12-2005, 02:48
...someone fucked up on their research there: Yesterday was penned by McCartney.

Not necesarily, maybe the school was under the assumption that Paul had been shot.
Bodies Without Organs
09-12-2005, 02:50
Not necesarily, maybe the school was under the assumption that Paul had been shot.

I think that believing Paul had been shot would also fall under the heading of 'fucked-up research'. Nevermind the fact that they were using one of the songs that Lennon singled out for particular criticism.
Northern Isle
09-12-2005, 03:48
John Lennon, October 9, 1940- December 8, 1980. The Liverpoolian guitarest made famous with his English rock group "The Beatles" who would change music and the way people lived forever.

There is probably a thread out there, but I couldnt come across it, so I will post a thread asking you what was your favorite John Lennon song? It could be from when he was with the Beatles to when he was on his own. So, which is it?

For me, it's easy, All You Need Is Love.

Or Help, Help is good.

Imagine.
The Ohio State Axis
09-12-2005, 03:54
Let It Be...was mostly written by McCartney...and AMAZING live (I went to McCartney in September). My favorite Beatles/Lennon song is probably Sgt. Pepper's or Come Together.
The Pink City
09-12-2005, 04:12
Let It Be

Let it Be is Paul's song, not John's.

I don't have a favourite Lennon, song - All of his music is beautiful (as are the rest of the Beatles' songs)
Anybodybutbushia
09-12-2005, 05:09
Across the Universe - written by Lennon and McCartney - and not the version that Yoko had influence on. The original is one of my favorite songs in general.
Elizajeff
09-12-2005, 05:24
Victor Jara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Jara), a very famous Chilean singer, with very similar political leanings to Lennon. He was murdered in the coup of 73...for some reason, I always think of one, when I think of the other. I think it's because both were very passionate, and likely to continue their political work...and would still be around to inspire us, had their lives not been taken.

I'd never heard of Jara, but I think Peter Tosh could fit into that category as well.
Jennislore
09-12-2005, 05:26
Nowhere Man. I just love that song. I also like Hey Bulldog
Ekland
09-12-2005, 05:27
Something about his voice annoyed the hell out of me... never could put my finger on it.
Colin World
09-12-2005, 05:45
I agree with Ekland that his voice had something to it, but I disagree that it was annoying. I absolutely love the Beatles, as they've been a part of my life ever since I can remember. I still find meaning and joy in the songs of Lennon/McCartney, Harrison, and even Starr. My favorite Lennon song would have to be She's Leaving home: just the haunting beauty of it is incredible to me. It was one of the first Beatle songs I hjeard and it has so much meaning to me.
Violettania
09-12-2005, 05:54
I am a HUGE Lennon fan and I must say, it's nice to see all the varied opinions on him out there.

John never wanted to be a posterboy for peace really. Rather, he was aware of his power and hoped that people would listen, If they didn't, it was well and truely up to them..

there are soo many songs. However I chose "Love is," "Beautiful boy (darling boy)" "Woman" and "Nobody Told Me" and from The Beatles I choose "Girl" and "This Boy"

"How do you want to be remembered, John?"
"Hee, hee. Well as a guy from Liverpool who wrote some nice songs. Don't take my songs as gospel, man. They are just songs..just songs... "

1980 interview

That quote, for me at least; embodies everything that John was.
Megaloria
09-12-2005, 05:55
Always more of a Harisson fan myself. "Only a Northern Song" being my favourite of his.
Colin World
09-12-2005, 05:59
I am a HUGE Lennon fan and I must say, it's nice to see all the varied opinions on him out there.

John never wanted to be a posterboy for peace really. Rather, he was aware of his power and hoped that people would listen, If they didn't, it was well and truely up to them..

there are soo many songs. However I chose "Love is," "Beautiful boy (darling boy)" "Woman" and "Nobody Told Me" and from The Beatles I choose "Girl" and "This Boy"

"How do you want to be remembered, John?"
"Hee, hee. Well as a guy from Liverpool who wrote some nice songs. Don't take my songs as gospel, man. they are just songs..Just songs... "

1980 interveiw

That quote, for me at least; embodies everything that John was.

That's exactly what draws me closer to the ideas of Lennon: he was humble. Although Harrison also has a lot of meaning for me, John and Paul were simply amazing in there knowledge and creatiopn of music, and humble to the ramifications society placed on the music
Violettania
09-12-2005, 06:19
That's exactly what draws me closer to the ideas of Lennon: he was humble.

Yes, and if you visit Liverpool you feel it all the more. People there are either sick to the back teeth of him or, are fiercely protective of his memory. I find that very refreshing and Liverpudian to the core.

No-ones a saint in The 'Pool.. Not even Dr Winston O'Boogie

I have family there and I am quite proud of that... Most of the time ;-)
Maineiacs
09-12-2005, 06:23
"Imagine" -- still speaks to me

"Watching the Wheels" -- more and more appropriate as I get older

"Beautiful Boy" -- because I used to sing it (as "Beautiful Girl") to my step-daughter who I'm not allowed to see anymore

I remember the night Lennon died very well.
Maineiacs
09-12-2005, 06:25
Across the Universe - written by Lennon and McCartney - and not the version that Yoko had influence on. The original is one of my favorite songs in general.


Jai Guru Deva, OM.
Kreitzmoorland
09-12-2005, 06:42
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

I sometimes repeat that over and over in my head - I know there's good people around, and we can do the right things together. Imagine. yeah.
Violettania
09-12-2005, 06:45
Jai Guru Deva, OM. - Gosh why do I always forget that song. I'd love to have the original *siiiiiiggghh* it's so gorgeous..
Colin World
09-12-2005, 06:50
Jai Guru Deva, OM.

I sang 'Across the Universe' in a tribute to those that died in the Montreal massacre. People were very receptive; one person even mentioned how I sounded just like John, which was my intent
Violettania
09-12-2005, 06:57
How fitting.. and brave of you...
MrMopar
09-12-2005, 07:02
I listened to Lennon and Beatles albums for 3hours plus today.
Colin World
09-12-2005, 07:05
Except for the 5 hours I was at work today, I listened to the Beatles: Abbey Road, Rubber Sould, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver, the White Album, and a collection I have on my computer from tapes I no longer can play, damn stereo
Ragbralbur
09-12-2005, 07:07
Song he sang: Twist And Shout
Song he wrote: Revolution
Myotisinia
09-12-2005, 07:23
Methinks a lot of you need to read The Playboy Interview with John Lennon. They went through damn near every song ever recorded by the Beatles and John specifically said who wrote what, and what parts John wrote on the ones they'd written together. You can mostly figure it out without it though. The introspective songs were almost always John, and the fanciful songs all Paul's. Sgt. Peppers was Paul's baby all the way. John hated it.

As for my favorites..... Imagine, or The Ballad Of John and Yoko. Maybe #9 Dream and Across The Universe. He had so many really good ones.

*sigh*
Secret aj man
09-12-2005, 07:29
Woman is the ****** of the world
Yes she is...think about it
Woman is the ****** of the world
Think about it...do something about it

We make her paint her face and dance
If she won’t be slave, we say that she don’t love us
If she’s real, we say she’s trying to be a man
While putting her down we pretend that she is above us

i'm a pretty belligerent fella,hate commies cause they are stupid,but lennon was brilliant.
hit's close to home with me.
my mom's was friends with him when he lived in ncy(the dakotas)

i went to the tribute they had in central park for him(and about a million others..overstated)after he died,like a week later...shows my age i guess,but he was a good man i would have opened my doors too any time.

he was a good hearted man,hated by many(incorrectly) and loved by many(me and my family felt he was for real in his beliefs)and the kicker...my pop's was a staunch republican...lol....until my mom..a saint...showed my dad,money aint the end all...i miss my mom,to my pop's credit...lol...he tried doing the whole guitar thing and be a hippy,stealing my weed...but my mom was the true at heart type.
thats why i am so conflicted,my dad was correct...money matters..but my mom always made me feel warm inside,so did john..a better tribute i cant think of...great man,
i am listening to audio slave...and would rather here norwegion wood!....go figure.
as a matter of fact,i will lime wire it...norwegion wood,i played that song as a boyscout to the dismay of the anti communists...lol.

then followed it up with hey jude,then got resoundingly boooed of the stage,when i was 10,so ended my music carreer...lol...but he was always a great man in my eyes.:)
Violettania
09-12-2005, 07:52
Good god, what a great story..May I TG you? It's rare that I ask that..but may I?
Aust
09-12-2005, 19:11
Lennon, Chapman, me or you? you really have to be more precise....
The guy who shot Lennon.
Anybodybutbushia
09-12-2005, 19:22
Never heard this version - I love it more with each listen. They may have been under the influence during this recording. Cool page also.

http://www.missouri.edu/~omshanti/lennon.html