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Anyone see Pinters Nobel acceptance speech?

Jordaxia
08-12-2005, 17:53
If so, what did you think of it? Myself, I'm undecided. He certainly sounded sincere (a word he played upon frequently, though it wasn't the core of his speech), but I have no way of knowing how unbiased what he said was without research of my own. Did anyone who seen it think that it was frighteningly accurate? Utter nonsense?
Unfortunately, I haven't had any luck on finding the speech online, so I couldn't offer a link.... I'm going to have to rely on what I expect to be the minority for debate here....
Sinuhue
08-12-2005, 17:54
Here (http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/12/07/Arts/pinter_051207.html) is an article with excerpts..I'll look for the full transcript...and no, I didn't hear it.

Complete Transcript (http://www.livejournal.com/users/mparent7777/5058536.html)
Sinuhue
08-12-2005, 17:57
Political language, as used by politicians, does not venture into any of this territory since the majority of politicians, on the evidence available to us, are interested not in truth but in power and in the maintenance of that power. To maintain that power it is essential that people remain in ignorance, that they live in ignorance of the truth, even the truth of their own lives. What surrounds us therefore is a vast tapestry of lies, upon which we feed. Sounds about right to me...

By the way....his speech is very long...scroll down to about half way through to see the stuff directed at current events.

I like this...
I know that President Bush has many extremely competent speech writers but I would like to volunteer for the job myself. I propose the following short address which he can make on television to the nation. I see him grave, hair carefully combed, serious, winning, sincere, often beguiling, sometimes employing a wry smile, curiously attractive, a man’s man.

‘God is good. God is great. God is good. My God is good. Bin Laden’s God is bad. His is a bad God. Saddam’s God was bad, except he didn’t have one. He was a barbarian. We are not barbarians. We don’t chop people’s heads off. We believe in freedom. So does God. I am not a barbarian. I am the democratically elected leader of a freedom-loving democracy. We are a compassionate society. We give compassionate electrocution and compassionate lethal injection. We are a great nation. I am not a dictator. He is. I am not a barbarian. He is. And he is. They all are. I possess moral authority. You see this fist? This is my moral authority. And don’t you forget it.’
Bodies Without Organs
08-12-2005, 17:58
Unfortunately, I haven't had any luck on finding the speech online, so I couldn't offer a link....


http://nobelprize.org/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-lecture-e.html
Deep Kimchi
08-12-2005, 18:01
"The United States now occupies 702 military installations throughout the world in 132 countries, with the honourable exception of Sweden, of course. We don’t quite know how they got there but they are there all right."

And people were worried about PNAC... we were already in nearly all of those countries long before Bush was elected...
Sonaj
08-12-2005, 18:22
Here (http://nobelprize.org/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-lecture.html) you can read the speech in different languages or watch it.

And I must say, he's a powerful speaker.
Fass
08-12-2005, 18:26
At first, I was a little disappointed by this choice, as I was hoping for a prosaist this time around, but seeing this speech, and having seen some of his works televised since the announcement, I think the Nobel Committee, as they tend to do, made the right decision.

We are a compassionate society. We give compassionate electrocution and compassionate lethal injection.

So true.

By the by, the medicine prize laureates will be holding a lecture at my university. I hope I can get off duty to go see it.