NationStates Jolt Archive


This might be one of those 'exaggerations'

Harmonia Mortis
08-12-2005, 14:48
http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/sports/105298.php

Wow. Just wow.
Im not going to address the actual article here, but I should say, this entire thing is rather stupid. Their 'points' on the side indicating that *GASP!* underage female students responded 'Yes' to questions of whether or not they had had sex! OH NOES! PEPLE UNDR 18 R HAVING SEX! This is a totaly new thing and has not beeng going on since the 50's!
As to the other two...guess what else looks like 'hard alchahol'? Water! Guess what looks like a 'lit marajuana joint'? A bit of paper!
'Course I might be wrong, particularly about the marajuana one, but Im willing to bet that (most of) the other two are simply people trying to appear 'cool'.

This aside, its bloody stupid to FURTHER restrict access on our schools computers, which already block such issues as:
"Hobbies/interest"
"Translators"
"Hate Speech" (Any webpage that uses the word 'nazi' more than once)
"Religion"

And other topics which are more likely to be used for school work than anything. I can see blocking, say, porn or forums or other things that ARENT related to schoolwork, but the 'Hobbies/interest' catagory seems to include pages with Kanji on them, making it hard to look up things for our Japanese Culture class.
Thank god for proxies. Sheesh.
SoWiBi
08-12-2005, 15:12
*willl commen tonly on a side aspect of the article*

so..anyone read the tips fpr parents section? it sure is zthe best way of establishing a trustful, responsible relationship with your child (and also a great role model thing) to go to myspace behind their backs and sniff around their private pages trying to find somezthing you can yell at them for. really, gret advice.
Eutrusca
08-12-2005, 15:26
It's way past time for me to be concerned about anything my own children might be doing online ( the youngest is 32! ), but they know to monitor their own children's Internet activities. :p
Heron-Marked Warriors
08-12-2005, 15:29
*willl commen tonly on a side aspect of the article*

so..anyone read the tips fpr parents section? it sure is zthe best way of establishing a trustful, responsible relationship with your child (and also a great role model thing) to go to myspace behind their backs and sniff around their private pages trying to find somezthing you can yell at them for. really, gret advice.

But children are evil and must be stopped! Otherwise, they'll have fun and learn things for themselves!!
Harmonia Mortis
09-12-2005, 00:13
But children are evil and must be stopped! Otherwise, they'll have fun and learn things for themselves!!
Remember, Children are the Future...
Unless you stop them now O_O
The Soviet Americas
09-12-2005, 00:15
I don't get it, what do parents expect to do to stop hormones? Keep them locked in the house all day? GG, you're a douchebag in that case.

Parents, I'm sorry: it ain't going to stop no matter what you do.
Keruvalia
09-12-2005, 00:16
*willl commen tonly on a side aspect of the article*

so..anyone read the tips fpr parents section? it sure is zthe best way of establishing a trustful, responsible relationship with your child (and also a great role model thing) to go to myspace behind their backs and sniff around their private pages trying to find somezthing you can yell at them for. really, gret advice.

As a parent, I feel it's my job to check their forum posts daily and correct spelling and grammatical errors.
NERVUN
09-12-2005, 00:29
The sad part is that too many parents are computer illiterate an really DON'T know, or what to know, about what their child is doing online. Blocks don't work with tech savy kids who can find ways around them (or better yet, are the ones who configured the blocks in the first place for their parents).

I do agree that it is the relationship with your child that is far more important and a better way to monitor online activities than trying to snoop their MySpace account.

Having said that, when I have children who are of age to be online, I'm installing a key logger. ;)

It's way past time for me to be concerned about anything my own children might be doing online ( the youngest is 32! ), but they know to monitor their own children's Internet activities. :p
What! Don't you know that a parent's work is never done? Why, they could be seeing content that may damage their growth and development. They could be wandering into web pages that challenge all that you hold dear. You're failing by not monitoring your children's every move online. :p
*Flees from the wrath of Eut ;) *
Heron-Marked Warriors
09-12-2005, 00:32
As a parent, I feel it's my job to check their forum posts daily and correct spelling and grammatical errors.

You, sir (right?), are a hero
Koliphornia
10-12-2005, 00:10
I find the doomsday tone of the article pretty hillarious. It's as if myspace is a den of debauchery, when all it can ever be is a reflection of real life. There are sexists, racists, violent people, homosexuals and homophobes, etc. in real life, and it takes more than an internet blocker to defeat those things. (I don't see homosexuals on the same level as those things at all, but it's something people want their kids to stay away from, for whatever reason...)
Its too far away
10-12-2005, 06:09
The sad part is that too many parents are computer illiterate an really DON'T know, or what to know, about what their child is doing online. Blocks don't work with tech savy kids who can find ways around them (or better yet, are the ones who configured the blocks in the first place for their parents).

I do agree that it is the relationship with your child that is far more important and a better way to monitor online activities than trying to snoop their MySpace account.

Having said that, when I have children who are of age to be online, I'm installing a key logger. ;)


What! Don't you know that a parent's work is never done? Why, they could be seeing content that may damage their growth and development. They could be wandering into web pages that challenge all that you hold dear. You're failing by not monitoring your children's every move online. :p
*Flees from the wrath of Eut ;) *

I'm 16 and I suppose you would call me one of those tech savy kids. I wouldn't put too much faith in a key logger, best of luck but there is really nothing short of actual human supervision that will stop them if they are determined and able to follow instructions. I severly doubt there is anything my parents could do to stop me going where I want to go, or find out that I had. Luckily for them I'm a good little boy.
PasturePastry
10-12-2005, 06:29
Well, let's see: myspace is bad because teenagers are interacting with....other teenagers. Heaven forbid people have any sort of interaction with their peer group.

If the concern was adults taking advantage of teenagers online, I might be more inclined to raise an eyebrow, but no, kids talking among themselves is bad. If this doesn't stop, they may go on to lead normal, healthy lives.
Pennterra
10-12-2005, 08:01
Once more, schools and incompetent parents are overreacting to the Internet. Nothing mentioned in the article is particularly new. Porn? How many teenage boys have snuck their dads' copies of Playboy to school? Talking about sex? What else do teenagers talk about? Descriptions and depictions of violent acts? Have you seen CNN recently?

Teenagers have been doing this stuff since societal expectations shifted toward kids being a leisure class. These parents probably did and talked about the exact same things. MySpace.com is basically a really, really big equivalent of a '50s soda fountain. Stop worrying about your kid and trust them to be able to seperate images on a screen from reality!