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The Rise, Peak, Decline and Defeat of Iraq's Insurgency

Allanea
08-12-2005, 10:51
December 02, 2005

The Rise, Peak, Decline and Defeat of Iraq's Insurgency

The insurgency in Iraq has now dragged on for 30 months and the price is apparent in terms of financial cost and human lives. In addition, it's also caused a fair segment of the population to lose faith in the effort and question the ongoing commitment. I don't hesitate to say that a large segment of those who trumpet out body counts, invoke terms like "Vietnam" and "Quagmire", or call for exit strategies are doing so without understanding the strategy and successes achieved in Iraq. If you can't distinguish between places in Iraq like Husaybah, Mosul, Ramadi or Tal Afar, and can't give any kind of explanation of what is going on in those places and around Iraq in general beyond the car bomb and the IED, you are realistically in no position to make an educated decision about the correct course of action to pursue in Iraq. I can only imagine the perception that many Americans have of Iraq; some nation in the Middle East where jihadists multiply, the Iraqi security forces resemble the keystone cops, U.S. forces are helpless against roadside bombs, and the situation is so dire that only disengagement can solve the problem.

The following is by no means a comprehensive study on Iraq or intended to represent the full scale of the achievements and successes, but instead offers some basic perspective of what I see as an insurgency in transition from the third phase to the fourth phase, and ultimately defeat. The U.S. military will not be defeated, it is American public opinion that has been dragged onto the front lines of the battlefields, and therefore it is the American people that must remain resolved and steadfast, and be convinced that the situation in Iraq is winnable and real progress is being made.

I. The Rise (May 2003-March 2004 - 10 months)
The handling of the immediate post-major combat operations in Iraq has been heavily criticized. Specific points of contention include the choice to disband the Iraqi army, the number of U.S. troops used, equipment issued to those troops, and failure to identify the insurgency earlier and take measures to prevent or minimalize it. What Iraqi security forces there were performed poorly in combat, and they suffered from enemy infiltration and desertion. On a positive note, U.S. forces killed Uday and Qu'say Hussein in Mosul, and captured Saddam Hussein outside of Tikrit. The Iraqi interim governing council was also established, with the coalition provincial authority handling Iraq's government affairs.


U.S. Combat Deaths: 302

U.S. Combat Deaths per month: 30.2

U.S. Troops Wounded in Action: 2,200

U.S. Troops Wounded per month: 220.0

Insurgents estimated killed/detained: 15,750

Insurgents estimated killed/detained per month: 1,575

Iraqi Security Forces average: 55,000


II. The Peak (April 2004-November 2004 - 8 months)
The summer of 2004 was the darkest moment in fighting the insurgency, topped off by the death of 137 U.S. troops in November alone. The Abu Ghraib scandal broke, the American public came to the realization that there would be no quick victory and for the first time politicians in Washington began advocating exit strategies. The future of Iraq truly hung in the balance and success appeared unlikely at best. Coalition forces found themselves fighting not only Sunni insurgents and foreign jihadists, but Shi'ite militiamen loyal to Moqtada al-Sadr. One of the few sustaining sources was the transfer of power from U.S. authorities to an interim Iraqi government, and the knowledge that national elections in January were rapidly approaching, although a cloud of skepticism hung over those as well.


U.S. Combat Deaths: 530

U.S. Combat Deaths per month: 66.25

U.S. Troops Wounded in Action: 7,055

U.S. Troops Wounded per month: 881.88

Insurgents estimated killed/detained: 16,220

Insurgents estimated killed/detained per month: 2027.5

Iraqi Security Forces average: 96,000


III. The Decline (December 2004-November 2005 - 12 months)
In January the Iraqi's went to the polls and elected a temporary government. For the first time, many Iraqi's began to express support for both the new, elected goverment and the security forces. Tips from local citizens increased twenty fold, and U.S. and Iraqi offensives began eroding the network of safehouses and areas of immunity which insurgents and foreign terrorists were utilizing. In northern Iraq, as much as 80 percent of al Qaeda's leadership was killed or detained and following an earlier unsuccesful attempt to deny safe haven to terrorists in Tal Afar, the city was taken again in Operation Restoring Rights. A host of other operations focused on the ratline to the south along the Euphrates River. While insurgents once enjoyed the sanctuary of places like Fallujah, Hadithah, al Qa'im, Husaybah and Karabilah, they would quickly see their activities challenged on a more permanent basis. U.S. forces transfered security to the Iraqi's in large sections of Baghdad, in Karbalah and Najaf, and several other locations. Route Irish and Haifa Street, once among the most dangerous roads in Baghdad, are now among the safest. The Iraqi's succesfully wrote a constitution, managed to engage in dialogue to bring some Sunni groups aboard the political process, and passed it in a nationwide referendum vote. Iraq's security forces continued to grow both in raw numbers and operational capabilities, and numerous key leaders in the insurgency have been killed or captured.


U.S. Combat Deaths: 679

U.S. Combat Deaths per month: 56.58

U.S. Troops Wounded in Action: 6,084

U.S. Troops Wounded per month: 507.00

Insurgents estimated killed/detained: 25,500

Insurgents estimated killed/detained per month: 2125.0

Iraqi Security Forces average: 175,000

The number of Iraqi soldiers and police killed has declined for the fourth month in a row, from 304 in July to 176 in November.

The number of car bombings has declined for the fourth month in a row, from 136 in May to 60 in September.

Iraqi civilians killed has dropped from from the 1400-2500 range estimate in August, to the 285-675 range in October and November.


IV. The Defeat (December 2005-December 2007 - 24 months)
The final stage of this process will mark the defeat of the insurgency as a large security threat to Iraq, through both military firepower and political inclusion. National elections are being held in two weeks and the likelyhood that U.S. forces will drawdown their personnel numbers in 2006 remains strong. The Iraqi security forces continue to grow and improve and are now enabling coalition forces to pursue holding strategies in key locations. In the coming two years you will see a host of other cities, firebases, and infastructure security transfered over to Iraqi authorities. Ultimately 2006 is poised to be a transitional year with more achievements and successes, and more work remains. Certainly there will be violence in Iraq for a long period of time, but the tide has tipped on an insurgency that offers no political alternatives, is experiencing inner divisions between the different groups, has suffered tremendous losses of key leadership and other personnel, and is increasingly seeing their areas of operations challenged.

Note: All statistics cited above were taken from the Brookings Institute, a progressive thinktank in Washington D.C.

Posted by Mixed Humor at December 2, 2005 02:53 AM

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Cannot think of a name
08-12-2005, 10:55
Could have just Posted a link (http://63.247.134.60/~pobbs/archives/002412the_rise_peak_decline_and_defeat_of_iraqs_insurgency.html). What about this did you want discussed?
Allanea
08-12-2005, 11:02
It's interesting IMHO that while the media makes it all look bad, the situation is not necessarily so.
BackwoodsSquatches
08-12-2005, 11:04
So, according to this information, the more Iraqi security forces, the more US KIA, per month.


That makes about as much sense as the initial exscuses for the war.
Cannot think of a name
08-12-2005, 11:05
It's interesting IMHO that while the media makes it all look bad, the situation is not necessarily so.
Well hell, man. There's thirty threads on that, it's almost half of what we talk about. Why'd we need a copy and paste of some dudes blog in a whole new thread?
Disraeliland 3
08-12-2005, 12:07
I recall certain idiots in the media talking about "quagmire" on day 3. Those who have been gibbering about quagmire and Vietnam understood Iraq as much as they understood the back end of the moon.

As for the insurgency, one measures success by goals attained. They have attained none of their goals. They have not prevented the new Iraqi government, and the Coalition achieving all of their goals thus far.

That makes about as much sense as the initial exscuses for the war.

There speaks a person who will simply parrot everything he hears in the media, and will do no independent research.
Myrmidonisia
08-12-2005, 12:26
I've tried to point out a lot of the positive, non-military events that have happened in Iraq. One of the contradictions that I've noticed is that people say 'there is less infrastructure' that when Saddam ruled the country. It's hard, but if you keep up with what has been happening, you'll find that more people are in schools, more people are on the power grid, and more people have treated water than while Saddam was in charge. Something else that is regularly overlooked is that far fewer women are raped by the government, fewer men are jailed for political crimes, and far fewer citizens are killed by Ugly and Queasy for whatever reasons.
BackwoodsSquatches
08-12-2005, 13:24
I recall certain idiots in the media talking about "quagmire" on day 3. Those who have been gibbering about quagmire and Vietnam understood Iraq as much as they understood the back end of the moon.

As for the insurgency, one measures success by goals attained. They have attained none of their goals. They have not prevented the new Iraqi government, and the Coalition achieving all of their goals thus far.



There speaks a person who will simply parrot everything he hears in the media, and will do no independent research.

Oh piss off.

And you parrot everyone just like you who attacks anyone else with a varying opinion.

Yes, the "Coalition" if you can continue to call it that will achieve its goals of stamping out an active resistance movement.
For the short time.
More insurgency will be the result.
Do not presume to think that all such acts of terrorism will cease in Iraq, ever.

But lets talk of the price of that shallow, unwanted, and immoral victory, shall we?

You know why people like me use the term "quagmire", or "Vietnam", when comparing them to Iraq?
Not for the number of casualties, but for the disallusionment that the government achieved from its own people.
Why are we in Iraq?
To truly liberate the Iraqi people from a terrible regime, and bring forth a nation of democracy?

Or are we securing oil futures?

The answer isnt so cut and dried, and no matter how many times you play "Hail to the Chief", you know it.
Non Aligned States
08-12-2005, 13:45
and far fewer citizens are killed by Ugly and Queasy for whatever reasons.

That's because, if these are the people I think you are referring to, are either dead or in jail. But the number of citizens killed by both insurgency and Coalition collateral damage isn't exactly dropping. Taking out one and replacing it with many doesn't really do any good.
The Nazz
08-12-2005, 13:46
snip
You know, when people do this on their own, it's mental masturbation. Copying it and pasting it to another site with no additional commentary is more like trying to get it up with the Sears catalog and failing.
Eutrusca
08-12-2005, 13:53
"The Rise, Peak, Decline and Defeat of Iraq's Insurgency"

An excellent analysis. Thank you for posting it! :)
Cannot think of a name
08-12-2005, 13:55
You know, when people do this on their own, it's mental masturbation. Copying it and pasting it to another site with no additional commentary is more like trying to get it up with the Sears catalog and failing.
Zing!
Teh_pantless_hero
08-12-2005, 14:10
The insurgency in Iraq will end with full-out civil war, and maybe not then.
Pepe Dominguez
08-12-2005, 14:14
Well, that's an interesting analysis.. and I hope the positive bits of the forecast are true. I especially hope we can make some inroads on the PR front.. ABC published a poll today that said 87% of Afghans are happy that we invaded, 4 years later.. my guess is that this has a lot to do with the fact that their home-grown resistance was a part of the effort, but maybe some of it has to do with initiatives we can repeat in Iraq..
Beer and Guns
08-12-2005, 14:16
I wonder who will win the Iraqi election on the 15th of December ? I bet it wont be saddam...he's complaining about his lack of clean underwear at his trial .
Teh_pantless_hero
08-12-2005, 14:18
I wonder who will win the Iraqi election on the 15th of December ? I bet it wont be saddam...he's complaining about his lack of clean underwear at his trial .
Saddam needs to be put on the cast of SNL as part of his punishment. The show would become 1.5 times funnier.
Beer and Guns
08-12-2005, 14:31
Saddam needs to be put on the cast of SNL as part of his punishment. The show would become 1.5 times funnier.

They should let him take Bahgdad Bob with him ..then it would be a real hoot .:D the new Abbot and Costello ...heyyyyy Saaaaaaaaaaadaaaaaaam....
The Similized world
08-12-2005, 14:38
Well, that's an interesting analysis.. and I hope the positive bits of the forecast are true. I especially hope we can make some inroads on the PR front.. ABC published a poll today that said 87% of Afghans are happy that we invaded, 4 years later.. my guess is that this has a lot to do with the fact that their home-grown resistance was a part of the effort, but maybe some of it has to do with initiatives we can repeat in Iraq..
That homegrown resistance wasn't terribly popular at all. Part of the reason the Taliban were able to take control of the country was because 'the resistance' were nothing but murderous scum, universally feared & loathed by the Afghani peoples.

I'm very glad it turned out the way it did though. I doubt many of the locals would've ever imagined it was possible.
Amestria
08-12-2005, 14:39
If this is true then why are the people in the Defense Department talking about a 10 to 15 year insurgency? There are also other factors that are quite relevent that have not been included in that little chart (like unemployment rate, reconstruction, crime rate, corruption, ethnic conflict, est.). Nothing is ever so simple... Here is a depressing fact, Sunnis are fleeing Shitte districts and Shittes are fleeing Sunni districts to avoid being targeted by extremists, the fromer Iraqi Prime Minister said human rights were as bad as Saddams time, and the Iraq police force has been infiltrated by insurgents and Shitte militias and is prone to corrupt practices and abuse.

That chart/list of stats is nonsense.
Pepe Dominguez
08-12-2005, 15:06
I'm very glad it turned out the way it did though. I doubt many of the locals would've ever imagined it was possible.

Interestingly, the Afghan economy is still lagging a bit, too.. in fact, most Afghans are still dirt-poor, and yet 90% have an unfavorable opinion of Osama bin Laden... something to remember next time someone brings up the old "Poverty = Terrorism" argument..
Teh_pantless_hero
08-12-2005, 15:12
They should let him take Bahgdad Bob with him ..then it would be a real hoot .:D the new Abbot and Costello ...heyyyyy Saaaaaaaaaaadaaaaaaam....
"We welcome you with bullets and shoes because its.. SATURDAY NIGHT!"
The Similized world
08-12-2005, 15:38
Interestingly, the Afghan economy is still lagging a bit, too.. in fact, most Afghans are still dirt-poor, and yet 90% have an unfavorable opinion of Osama bin Laden... something to remember next time someone brings up the old "Poverty = Terrorism" argument..
And that number corrosponds quite well with the old powerstructure, so it isn't terribly surprising. After all, being on the recieving end of the Taliban was no walk in the park. Laugh in public & be whipped to death, and all that...

Poverty & terrorism are connected, but only indirectly. It's a well known fact that the majority of terrorists aren't very poor at all. Political & religious terrorism is usually tied to percieved injustice. Rampant poverty is a major cause for such beliefs. But it's rarely the poverty stricken who takes up arms. They're usually too busy trying to survive, or oblivious to the cause(s) of their situation.

Much of the Islamic fundamentalist terrorism was born out of percieved injustice against the old war heroes of Afghanistan. Prior to that, much of it was born out of desperation over the Saudi & Egyptian peoples not wanting to vote for them. Even a relatively peaceful individual like myself can partially appreciate the situation. I live in a country where one political party has some really great ideas that can solve a lot of problems. However, only 7-10% of the population agres with me... So it's never gonna happen. And that is a bit frustrating. I'm certain pretty much everyone with just a passing interest in politics know what I'm talking about.

Of course, we usually don't have our political (and in this case, religious) leaders thrown in jail and/or executed. They did though, and that was - and still is - the source of a great deal of resentment. Doubly so, I imagine, when many of those leaders were hailed as great heroes because of the war with Russia.

But I digress.. A lot... What I wanted to say was; without poverty, terrorist organisations aren't likely to arise, however, being poor doesn't make people more inclined to become terrorists. It does make you more inclined to listen to them and support them though.
The State of It
08-12-2005, 16:34
In the period between the 1st and 3rd December 2005, 14 US Soldiers were killed, 10 of them on the 1st December in once incident, blown up on foot patrol, 11 others injured.

30 Iraqis killed yesterday in bombings.

Bombings continue in Iraq, Kidnappings continue in Iraq, deaths continue in Iraq, Iraqi civillians, Iraqi Police and Military, British and US Military.

The Iraqi Police and Military half of which is infiltrated by Shia death squard Militias, torture and kill prisoners, thus egging on the insurgency

The US Military and Iraqi military launch assaults in insurgent strongholds only to find the large part of the insurgents have simply moved, in a game of chasing shadows.

The insurgency is not going to end just because someone writes an article saying it will, an article which shows no knowledge of the situation and politics, an article may I add, that stinks of desperation in the face of the bloody reality.
CanuckHeaven
08-12-2005, 16:41
It's interesting IMHO that while the media makes it all look bad, the situation is not necessarily so.
I guess it is all a matter of perspective? Take Afghanistan for instance. We don't hear much about that any more and all is well?

The fact is that US troop casualties (http://www.icasualties.org/oef/) are continuing to increase year over year. So while many would think that Afghanistan has been "pacified", the truth is that it is not.

Iraq on the other hand, casualties (http://icasualties.org/oif/) appear to go in cycles, depending on US offensives.
IDF
08-12-2005, 16:49
They should let him take Bahgdad Bob with him ..then it would be a real hoot .:D the new Abbot and Costello ...heyyyyy Saaaaaaaaaaadaaaaaaam....
No have them act out Eddie Murphy's Delirious. Have Saddam as Ralph Cramden and Bahgdad Bob as Ed Norton.

"He Norton I wanna show you something..."