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By the way, Osama bin Laden is still at holy war with us, and he posted it online!

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really, did we expect him to just stop waging war against the nation who's so far upset the middle east by invading two nations? And, I just found out that Bush has conceded that Iraq will be a long road...but, apparently, it's hard to rebuild a countr's infrastructure when it was destroyed by a dictatorship...although ironically enough there was more infrasctructure in Iraq before Bush invaded.

God bless America... and all of this coming from a falangist; that's when you know something is wrong with right-wing America. Now, don't take me as an anti-war protestor, because I'm not.. but hell, this just lurks into the stupid zone.

and all of this coming from a falangist;

Thanks a lot for killing the Spanish socialists in the civil war.:rolleyes: :sniper:

Thanks a lot for killing the Spanish socialists in the civil war.:rolleyes: :sniper:

I totally agree. :fluffle:

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

Thanks a lot for killing the Spanish socialists in the civil war.:rolleyes: :sniper:

Yea well, God hates socialists! Just like God hates anybody but Americans! :mp5:

Thanks a lot for killing the Spanish socialists in the civil war.:rolleyes: :sniper:

The weak deserve to perish!!

The weak deserve to perish!!

There is no objective basis for this value judgement. Contrary to popular belief, master morality is merely a subjective set of values based on the social construct of authority.

Yea well, God hates socialists! Just like God hates anybody but Americans!

So? I don't base my opinion on God's.

There is no objective basis for this value judgement. Contrary to popular belief, master morality is merely a subjective set of values based on the social construct of authority.


Of course not, it is a personal aesthetic judgment.

Morality is, in any case, merely a social construct. There is no objective basis from which to judge it internally.

When I went to El Valle de los Caidos this past summer - I go to Spain every summer since I live actively in the United States [I have dual citizenship] - I found it so ironic that Franco's principal quotation was,"Por España y Dios" for those that died...as if the republicans hadn't died for God either. :rolleyes:


So? I don't base my opinion on God's.


Unfortunately, most numb minded fascist don't base their opinion off your's.

By the way, Osama bin Laden is still at holy war with us, and he posted it online!

really, did we expect him to just stop waging war against the nation who's so far upset the middle east by invading two nations? And, I just found out that Bush has conceded that Iraq will be a long road...but, apparently, it's hard to rebuild a countr's infrastructure when it was destroyed by a dictatorship...although ironically enough there was more infrasctructure in Iraq before Bush invaded.

God bless America... and all of this coming from a falangist; that's when you know something is wrong with right-wing America. Now, don't take me as an anti-war protestor, because I'm not.. but hell, this just lurks into the stupid zone.
Hmm. Perhaps if you tried to actually make, like ... sense? :p

Hmm. Perhaps if you tried to actually make, like ... sense? :p


What didn't make sense about it? The paragraph nonwithstanding, when does Bush bashing make any sense at all? It's just fun to do!

By the way, Osama bin Laden is still at holy war with us, and he posted it online!

Actually, I am of the belief that OBL is quite deceased. I haven't seen any recent video footage of him, and I doubt he has the medical equipment necessary for his condition buried in whatever cave in the mountains he had been hiding in.

Actually, I am of the belief that OBL is quite deceased. I haven't seen any recent video footage of him, and I doubt he has the medical equipment necessary for his condition buried in whatever cave in the mountains he had been hiding in.
Assuming he's in a cave in Afghanistan

Yea well, God hates socialists! Just like God hates anybody but Americans! :mp5:

God hates America. Ever hear of Fred Phelps?

Assuming he's in a cave in Afghanistan
True...I believe it was recently reported in the Enquirer that he lives in a three bedroom apartrment in Miami with Hitler and Elvis.

Actually, I am of the belief that OBL is quite deceased. I haven't seen any recent video footage of him, and I doubt he has the medical equipment necessary for his condition buried in whatever cave in the mountains he had been hiding in.


But Allah is on his side, how can he die? It's like Bush - God is on his side too. So basically, what we have is God prodding both them at different times to destroy each other - yes, God likes to play toy soldiers sometimes... thus proving Bush and OBL can't die, because God is playing with them at this moment.

God hates America. Ever hear of Fred Phelps?

Actually, pardon my ignorance, but no. I've heard of Michael Phelps though! And I had a teacher called Mr. Phelps! Senior Latin teacher. Or I am mixing up Fred with Michael? Who was the swimmer?

Actually, pardon my ignorance, but no. I've heard of Michael Phelps though! And I had a teacher called Mr. Phelps! Senior Latin teacher. Or I am mixing up Fred with Michael? Who was the swimmer?

Type in Fred Phelps into Google.;)

Though he may also hate google too.

Type in Fred Phelps into Google.;)

Though he may also hate google too.


Damn. I'm torn between choices now. I can join Fred Phelps and to heaven. Or I can become scientologist and purge my body from the evil alien spirit which infested it after being brainwashed during a major motion picture.

... thus proving Bush and OBL can't die, because God is playing with them at this moment.

I used to play toy soldiers too. The G.I. Joe's got exploded by m-80's tied to them with rubber bands, and the MASK men got melted on the grill. Wait a minute...was I playing with GWB and OBL too? The G.I Joe's were the arab muslims, and the MASK men were Texans, because it is so damn hot there...
Wait a minute...does this mean that I am god? Or is this the butterfly effect?:p

The simple truth is that God does hate communists. Ever hear the Commandment "Thou shalt not steal"? Kinda the whole premise of communism.

I used to play toy soldiers too. The G.I. Joe's got exploded by m-80's tied to them with rubber bands, and the MASK men got melted on the grill. Wait a minute...was I playing with GWB and OBL too? The G.I Joe's were the arab muslims, and the MASK men were Texans, because it is so damn hot there...
Wait a minute...does this mean that I am god? Or is this the butterfly effect?:p

My head just exploded; I'm typing this with the last burst of energy left in my body.

The simple truth is that God does hate communists. Ever hear the Commandment "Thou shalt not steal"? Kinda the whole premise of communism.

Got hates everyone. Another commandment, "Thou shall not sleep with thy neighbor's wife"..well he said it more eloquently, but it's basically that - he just damned every man to hell. God is emo.

Got hates everyone. Another commandment, "Thou shall not sleep with thy neighbor's wife"..well he said it more eloquently, but it's basically that - he just damned every man to hell. God is emo.

God doesn't hate Mormons. Because mormons are the only ones who go to heaven.

source: South Park

I used to play toy soldiers too. The G.I. Joe's got exploded by m-80's tied to them with rubber bands, and the MASK men got melted on the grill. Wait a minute...was I playing with GWB and OBL too? The G.I Joe's were the arab muslims, and the MASK men were Texans, because it is so damn hot there...
Wait a minute...does this mean that I am god? Or is this the butterfly effect?:p
What about the magnifying glass, firecrackers and model rocket send-offs?????

Great post, btw. One of today's best.

The simple truth is that God does hate communists. Ever hear the Commandment "Thou shalt not steal"? Kinda the whole premise of communism.

I can twist that one too. God hates capitalism, because capitalists steal from me by profiting from my surplus labour.

I can twist that one too. God hates capitalism, because capitalists steal from me by profiting from my surplus labour.

Except you offer your surplus labour of your own free will. Hence it's not stealing.

God loves capitalism. And I am God.

The simple truth is that God does hate communists. Ever hear the Commandment "Thou shalt not steal"? Kinda the whole premise of communism.

The premise of communism is giving to those who have less out of your own free will...
Let's see, where else did I read about that?

Hey, Hammer-boy!

Guess what, everybody's gonna be hating the US for a while. It's what we're here for, nowadays. Back in the Cold War, it was simple. US Vs. THEM. Now it's US Vs. The World. Then what do we do? We elect some upstart with no real knowledge of internal affairs or world situations to the HIGHEST office in the land. And who does he take with him? An oil baron and longtime crony, of course!

Then these two jerks send poor stupid kids who only wanted a college education off into the goddamn desert with absolutely no mandate - and why? Because we want oil. We want money. What people aren't getting told is the amount of money Halliburton and other firms of its kind are making off of this little police action.

Now, before I really go off on a real rant, I'll post this and sign off.

PS...for those of you who don't know why I titled this as I did...ask the topic starter. He should know.

Except you offer your surplus labour of your own free will. Hence it's not stealing.

God loves capitalism. And I am God.

No I don't, I do it because I have to eat. I hardly call choosing life over death a valid expression on the triumph of free will. Some people are lucky and do not, they live from the labour of others.

No I don't, I do it because I have to eat. I hardly call choosing life over death a valid expression on the triumph of free will. Some people are lucky and do not, they live from the labour of others.

Oh so if you didn't have a job, you would starve to death? No you wouldn't. Bums aren't dead, they just have lower food quality. It *is* a choice, and while it may not be a 'triumph' of free will it is certainly not *theft* simply because another gains. in point of fact, you gain too... that aforementioned food.

Capitalism is not theft. Communism is theft.

Oh so if you didn't have a job, you would starve to death? No you wouldn't. Bums aren't dead, they just have lower food quality. It *is* a choice, and while it may not be a 'triumph' of free will it is certainly not *theft* simply because another gains. in point of fact, you gain too... that aforementioned food.

Okay. I have a choice between withering away on the streets or letting someone else take money from my labour. Hmmm.

Capitalism is not theft. Communism is theft.

But we're taking back what we created, heh.

Okay. I have a choice between withering away on the streets or letting someone else take money from my labour.

And also letting someone else provide you with money for your labour. That IS a choice, you may not like it but it exists. In true theft there is no choice because it involves force to remove what you have and you have no control over it. You choose what job to work at, can negotiate your own wages, hours. The fact that it happens to benefit your employer too doesn't mean your employer is stealing from you.

By the way, this conversation is ridiculous. :D

By the way, this conversation is ridiculous. :D

Yeah, but my point was that you can twist it either way.

I'm really not in the mood for discussing this now. Maybe later. It's been done to death already :p

I don't think God would approve of either Communism or a system designed to benefit the greediest/most ruthless and ones who were born with the best head start in life.

Mind you, people have being disobeying all the commandments in the name of God, and it's pretty amusing. The song "Onward Christian soilders" always makes me giggle - what they going to do if they are proper Christians? Sit down and convince their enemy to go away?

I don't think God would approve of either Communism or a system designed to benefit the greediest/most ruthless and ones who were born with the best head start in life.


So, God wouldn't approve of Communism or socialism? I agree.

So, God wouldn't approve of Communism or socialism? I agree.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because socialism, a system dedicated to building a decent state education and health system so everyone has a fair chance in life, is the same as capitalism, where opportunity to succeed and live is restricted to those whose parents can afford to send them to private schools or hospitals.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because socialism, a system dedicated to building a decent state education and health system so everyone has a fair chance in life, is the same as capitalism, where opportunity to succeed and live is restricted to those whose parents can afford to send them to private schools or hospitals.

Ah yes, because capitalism has no public schools or hospitals, and is "designed" to benefit the greedy, ruthless and evil? Oh and those who were high-born. Apparently its impossible to make money in capitalism now, and anyone who supports the "design" (I quote that because Communism is a designed system... everything about it comes from theorists purposefully trying to re-write the world. But capitalism just came about as a result of moving away from barter economics. No design inherent.) is... greedy, ruthless and evil.

Anti-capitalists just love to dish out their self righteous moralistic rhetoric, but you can't handle it when I point out the sad fact that socialist states aren't all fair, utopian societies "dedicated" to all that is good, right and pure.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because socialism, a system dedicated to building a decent state education and health system so everyone has a fair chance in life, is the same as capitalism, where opportunity to succeed and live is restricted to those whose parents can afford to send them to private schools or hospitals.


And because Communism has worked so well at achieving these goals, especially in the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba anc China ...and don't give me that crap about 'Communism has never seen true form', because that's evidence upon itself - Communism [b]can't see true form. It's an idealistic form of government, and government regulation on the economy, that will never exist. Any socialist government today that has had some success has a market economy - for example, Europe and Canada!

Do you people realize that there is an economic system that will reconcile the equality of communism to the freedom of capitalism? It's called worker ownership.

Don't like your surplus labor being appropriated? Do away with the appropriator and run the damned business. 1 employee, 1 vote, and that includes management.

No government required.

Do you people realize that there is an economic system that will reconcile the equality of communism to the freedom of capitalism? It's called worker ownership.

Don't like your surplus labor being appropriated? Do away with the appropriator and run the damned business. 1 employee, 1 vote, and that includes management.

No government required.


So, you're implying a basic democracy within a single factory? How terribly inneffecient when it comes to economic matters. I think that's why throughout history businesses have always had 30 employers, 1 manager; or why the military has 100 non-officers and one officer... more people in command is equal to more beauracracy, which is rather bad for quick decision making, and decision making in general.

Democracy, yes, though not necessarily basic. Most successful worker cooperatives use representative democracy in which a Board of Directors or Governing Council is elected by the members and in turn appoints management.

But Allah is on his side, how can he die? It's like Bush - God is on his side too. So basically, what we have is God prodding both them at different times to destroy each other - yes, God likes to play toy soldiers sometimes... thus proving Bush and OBL can't die, because God is playing with them at this moment.

is "freedom is satanism" in the Koran? Because that's what UBL is running on... that's his ticket. Western freedom/democracy is repulsive to him and the US is the Great Satan. lol

if UBL isn't dead, hopefully we have CIA assassins and special ops close on his tail. He's perhaps the worst human being since Pol Pot (though Milosevich and Saddam are up there with him).

He doesn't think that people should be able to vote their leaders into office. That alone is reprehensible.

So, you're implying a basic democracy within a single factory? How terribly inneffecient when it comes to economic matters. I think that's why throughout history businesses have always had 30 employers, 1 manager; or why the military has 100 non-officers and one officer... more people in command is equal to more beauracracy, which is rather bad for quick decision making, and decision making in general.

agreed.

God hates everybody. It told me so. That's why It invented all this crazy and ineffectual economic systems and religions so that humans would kill each other like the anomaly they are, and have fun watching them.

The simple truth is that God does hate communists. Ever hear the Commandment "Thou shalt not steal"? Kinda the whole premise of communism.

Ah, well the beauty of socialism is that many are atheist or agnostic. Hense the saying "religion is the opiate of the masses". Nietzsche, while a feudalist/slavery-proponent rather than a socialist, did say "God is dead" which socialists tend to agree with.

So, you're implying a basic democracy within a single factory? How terribly inneffecient when it comes to economic matters. I think that's why throughout history businesses have always had 30 employers, 1 manager; or why the military has 100 non-officers and one officer... more people in command is equal to more beauracracy, which is rather bad for quick decision making, and decision making in general.

If you ask me, humanity is more important than abstract concepts like efficiency.

God hates everybody. It told me so. That's why It invented all this crazy and ineffectual economic systems and religions so that humans would kill each other like the anomaly they are, and have fun watching them.

That's what I keep on saying.