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First, what the heck is a pen gun, anyway?

Second, there really are some people that are stupid enough to ...


ST. PARIS, Ohio — Steven Zorn had put the pen gun to his head and clicked before, apparently thinking it was jammed and would not work.

But on the third try, the tiny silver pistol went off as the 22-year-old budding rap artist was drinking to celebrate an impending record deal. He died at a hospital.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Pen_Gun_Death.html?imw=Y

I don't know

the only think I can think of is a zip gun these look a lot like a pen being about the same size as a big oldfashioned pen.

yes there are people stupid enough to do anything

try www.ebaumsworld.com and you will see what I mean

Isn't it self-explainatory? U don't hafta be a sci-fi writer to imagine...

i think thats why so much more than is legal should be legal, to purge put those winners of the darwin awards.
:confused: :sniper:

I thought that kind of thing only happened in fiction. :rolleyes:

Steven Zorn had put the pen gun to his head and clicked before
Yet another person kills themselves, or did he?
Z0MG! C0N5P1R4CY!!! Everyone knows you can't use no pen to fire bullets, the FBI must have assassinated him because they thought he was going to fly out and end the War in Iraq! Not only that, but there must have been a second shooter, who didn't actually shoot, but could have if he wanted to!

I thought that kind of thing only happened in fiction. :rolleyes:
And then you matured, and realized reality doesn't jive with ideolgy. Join the crowd.

try *snip* and you will see what I mean
Dude, those links are not liked at all by the mods.

well obviously...

So who's up for nominating this guy for the Darwin awards?

Dude, those links are not liked at all by the mods.
... Or the members.

So who's up for nominating this guy for the Darwin awards?
I do believe shooting oneself is an automatic disqualification.

*checks* Yep, it is.

First, what the heck is a pen gun, anyway?

Second, there really are some people that are stupid enough to ...


http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Pen_Gun_Death.html?imw=Y

Yes, it looks just like a pen. You usually unscrew it (in half), insert the .22 LR cartridge into the barrel, and screw it closed again. To fire, you pull the firing pin back until it locks. Pressing what looks like the pocket clip releases the firing pin and it strikes the rim of the cartridge.

Not very reliable weapons, and inaccurate, except when some idiot is holding it to his head.

I do believe shooting oneself is an automatic disqualification.

*checks* Yep, it is.

Oh good then I know not to make that mistake when I try and get in there. :p

First, what the heck is a pen gun, anyway?


A gun that looks like a pen.

As I understand it, making guns look like other things used to be in vogue. IIRC they were marketed to more respectable members of society, especially women, as a way to defend themselves in case of mugging or other violent crime. Guns could also be put in canes, pill boxs, purses.

Needless to say they usually weren't very effective since they commonly only fired one shot before needing to be reloaded and the round was very small and caused little damaged.

They are now collectors items.

About these concealed/camoflagued weapons? Has one been made from an umbrella? It would be rather ideal since you could literally conceal a rifle as the handle, and no-one would notice if you pointed it forwards, expecting you to raise it above your head.

About these concealed/camoflagued weapons? Has one been made from an umbrella? It would be rather ideal since you could literally conceal a rifle as the handle, and no-one would notice if you pointed it forwards, expecting you to raise it above your head.
I think there was some guy who tried to take out Sherlock Holmes with an Umbrella/Rifle.

About these concealed/camoflagued weapons? Has one been made from an umbrella? It would be rather ideal since you could literally conceal a rifle as the handle, and no-one would notice if you pointed it forwards, expecting you to raise it above your head.

Well, if you used a sharp angled hook instead of the curved type as the handle, you could concievably disguise a clip as that with the trigger further up the grip which is thumb activated. So you'd not only have a fairly decent cartridge size, but a clip of anywhere from 5 to 8 rounds before you needed to reload.

Yes, it looks just like a pen. You usually unscrew it (in half), insert the .22 LR cartridge into the barrel, and screw it closed again. To fire, you pull the firing pin back until it locks. Pressing what looks like the pocket clip releases the firing pin and it strikes the rim of the cartridge.

Not very reliable weapons, and inaccurate, except when some idiot is holding it to his head.
So when I make my next set of pens, do I need a FFL? Just kidding, but I have visions of the BATF guys barging in while I'm turning a pen on my lathe.

So when I make my next set of pens, do I need a FFL? Just kidding, but I have visions of the BATF guys barging in while I'm turning a pen on my lathe.
You'll need more substantial metal than the traditional pen.

You can buy them and register them as an AOW (Any Other Weapon). 25 dollar tax stamp instead of 200 dollars. They are extremely collectible.

You'll need more substantial metal than the traditional pen.

You can buy them and register them as an AOW (Any Other Weapon). 25 dollar tax stamp instead of 200 dollars. They are extremely collectible.
Now, you have me thinking about making money.

I have made pens from titanium. Turning any kind of metal isn't a problem. I think that some chrome-moly would be strong enough, but the finish would suck. Plating is probably the way to handle that. Rifling the barrel is probably the hardest problem to solve, but I'm sure there are some liners out there that would work just fine. One stop at Brownells is all it would take.

And I would need a FFL to make them for sale.

First, what the heck is a pen gun, anyway?

Second, there really are some people that are stupid enough to ...


http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Pen_Gun_Death.html?imw=Y


Thank God. Now if only all rappers shared the same fate....

Well, it's a nice change to see rappers shooting themselves instead of each other I guess....

Well, it's a nice change to see rappers shooting themselves instead of each other I guess....
Most pen guns are an accident waiting to happen.

He probably shouldn't have angered MI:6, Or else James Bond wouldn't have switched his pen.

About these concealed/camoflagued weapons? Has one been made from an umbrella? It would be rather ideal since you could literally conceal a rifle as the handle, and no-one would notice if you pointed it forwards, expecting you to raise it above your head.


Bah, the East Germans were far more elegent. They built a pellet gun into their umbrellas and armed them with pellets soaked in... I think it was Ricin.

Used it to knock off expatriot dissidents in London back in the 70s. Until one survived and told the story of getting sick after getting jabbed by one....