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who wins? it's totally zombies.

Bah, Robots would win. A robot bites a zombie and the metal teeth shear off bone and rotting flesh. A zombie bites a robot and it's teeth break off.

Not according to this (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=robot&word2=zombie). Besides, I feel my odds are pretty good piloting something like a mobile suit.

Hasn't anyone seen land of the dead?

The Zombies get OWNED
Humans basically use robots...their truck thing and whatnot.

A zombie cyborg would beat both, together at the same time.

Hasn't anyone seen land of the dead?

The Zombies get OWNED
Humans basically use robots...their truck thing and whatnot.

Since when was a truck a robot? Do you extend this principle to cars? To bicycles? To skateboards?

Well, the true threat of the zombie is their ability to replenish their ranks by simply biting a human.

With an inorganic being (say, a robot), this threat is nullified. Now they are nothing more than a mob of shambling, moaning idiots.

Since when was a truck a robot? Do you extend this principle to cars? To bicycles? To skateboards?

Meh, I guess you're right. But that truck fortress thing was so badass...

A zombie has no instinctive motive to attack a robot, whereas a robot programmed to exterminate zombies will exhaustively kick zombie ass until it either runs out of power, is critically damaged, or completes its mission. Zombies have also shown a gross inability to learn, which would prohibit them (to a large extent) from defending themselves against robots. Robots are not food nor vicims for zombies, zombies are prey for robots. I have yet to see a zombie movie where zombies "decided" (if you believe zombies are capable of thought) to attack mechanical objects, inanimate objects, or non-sentient beings. Zombies don't attack trees, zombies don't seem to attack animals, zombies don't attack power generators and beat them into disrepair, and they don't even seem to rage on revolving doors and automatic doors that close on them (except as an obstruction between them and their food, but you'll note that they don't attack the mechanism itself, only the obstacle).

Personally, I think robots would be the cheifest way to exterminate a zombie horde, should a zombie horde arise.


Now... whether we're talking about which one is more awesome and has potential for hilarity and bloodshed... clearly, I'm going to go with zombies.

I have to put my money on cyborgs. The Trooper II's and Quads from the Legion of the Damned would make short work of as many zombies that you could throw at them.

I have to put my money on cyborgs.

So you'd wager money on some old guy with a pacemaker going mono a mono with a flesh-eating zombie, would you?

Thankyou goodle fight.

The poor zombies seem to be getting a whooping. I dare say the only wins the zombies may have is if they get vicera in the robots vitals causing a short.

I would like to see a zombie hoarde dismantled by robots then the robots turn on the humans so we send the cyborgs to clean that up but then the cyborgs get all ancy so we send the dogs with bees that shoot out of their mouths when they bark. Of course when the dogs turn on us we'll simply scratch their bellies and nullify the threat.

A thanks goes to Homer Simpson with his hilarious train of thought, Homer my hero.

Right, now that i have this googlefight thing...... im going to go play beat em up. Thanks to the poster of the link :)

So you'd wager money on some old guy with a pacemaker going mono a mono with a flesh-eating zombie, would you?

Monkey to monkey? WTF?

And I think he means real cyborgs. Like Ghost in the Shell Cyborgs.

With guns, and super speed, and awesome accuracy, and explosives, and swords, and skillz...

So you'd wager money on some old guy with a pacemaker going mono a mono with a flesh-eating zombie, would you?

depends on what the odds are and what the geezer is packing.

Monkey to monkey? WTF?

And I think he means real cyborgs. Like Ghost in the Shell Cyborgs.

With guns, and super speed, and awesome accuracy, and explosives, and swords, and skillz...

What about professor Kevin Warwick?

What about professor Kevin Warwick?

Whoop-ti-do. His ability to open doors by standing in front of them is hardly a match for the slavering teeth and tearing claws of the oncoming zombie horde. Now, if it was Stelarc we were discussing, then I might give him better odds...

And I think he means real cyborgs. Like Ghost in the Shell Cyborgs.


Ah, using the word 'real' in the sense of 'not real at all', are we?

I think the real fulcrum of the conflict would revolve around the Robots having a deep, lengthy debate about whether zombies are still "Human" as it relates to the "Zeroth Law", but then the Robots would ascend to an state of abstract meta-existence and guide the zombies from behind the scenes.

Ah, using the word 'real' in the sense of 'not real at all', are we?

As in "real" as in one would expect a Cyborg to be. While an old-man with a pace-maker is TECHNICALLY a Cyborg, I doubt you could really call him one.

As in "real" as in one would expect a Cyborg to be. While an old-man with a pace-maker is TECHNICALLY a Cyborg, I doubt you could really call him one.

I wish I still had my boxed set of "Cyberpunk 2013" from R. Talsorian Games.

Maybe soon we'll have old men with pacemakers, but also pneumatic fists, sub-dermal armor, HUD targeting retinas, and vibro-garotte dental floss dispensers in their thumbs.

That'd be cool, if they weren't all cranky all the time.

Robots, for obvious reasons.

A robot can be programmed to dispose of zombies with maximum efficiency, and still have time to make dinner, tutor Johnny in algebra, take out the trash and file Dad's taxes.

A zombie can't do much of anything save shamble around stinking up the place. Well, they might be able to stare vacantly at a flickering lightbulb for hours on end, but that's pretty much it. Other than attack living humans, that is.

I wish I still had my boxed set of "Cyberpunk 2013" from R. Talsorian Games.

Maybe soon we'll have old men with pacemakers, but also pneumatic fists, sub-dermal armor, HUD targeting retinas, and vibro-garotte dental floss dispensers in their thumbs.

That'd be cool, if they weren't all cranky all the time.

Shiiiiiit....

*thinks of old-people shooting rockets and "youngin's" because "they're playing their 'hippity-hop' music too loud."*

depends on what the odds are and what the geezer is packing.

If Day of the Dead taught us nothing else, it taught us that zombies can also pack.

Robots, for obvious reasons.

A robot can be programmed to dispose of zombies with maximum efficiency, and still have time to make dinner, tutor Johnny in algebra, take out the trash and file Dad's taxes.

A zombie can't do much of anything save shamble around stinking up the place. Well, they might be able to stare vacantly at a flickering lightbulb for hours on end, but that's pretty much it. Other than attack living humans, that is.

Remember "Day of the Dead" where they're all stuck in the underground RV storage caverns, and the old scientist with the guts-encrusted lab coat is trying to train the Zombies, trying to domesticate them, and the "Bub" zombie tries to shave? Maybe it was Bob...

If Day of the Dead taught us nothing else, it taught us that zombies can also pack.

Yeah, zombies would make nifty infantry...imagine how realistic you could make the training camps...

"Private Bob, put this steel sheeting over your head, and hold this target..."

Zombies have nothin on robots. The whole purpose of zombies is that they are the living dead here to claim the living. Since robots arent living zombies cant do jack.

*thinks of old-people shooting rockets and "youngin's" because "they're playing their 'hippity-hop' music too loud."*

For some strange reason, I am reminded of Eut. :D

The whole purpose of zombies is that they are the living dead here to claim the living.

You seem mighty assured of the sole purpose of the Zeds. It could be that the whole 'consume the still-living flesh' malarky is just a smokescreen to cover their more devious plans, or are you speaking from some position of authority of which we currently know nothing?

You seem mighty assured of the sole purpose of the Zeds. It could be that the whole 'consume the still-living flesh' malarky is just a smokescreen to cover their more devious plans, or are you speaking from some position of authority of which we currently know nothing?

aw, man...what if...what if the Zombies really want to frighten us all into one place, crowded together, desperate, terrified...then, they whip out the Amway stuff.

Remember "Day of the Dead" where they're all stuck in the underground RV storage caverns, and the old scientist with the guts-encrusted lab coat is trying to train the Zombies, trying to domesticate them, and the "Bub" zombie tries to shave? Maybe it was Bob...
Y'know, it's been twenty years since I saw Day Of The Dead, and when I did it was on a 13-inch colour monitor. So it was an underground RV storage cavern they were in? I vaguely remember it was undergound with lots of military or paramilitary guys.

And I do remember Bob, or Bub - and the shaving. So you're right, if we're talking Romero Zombies, sure, they could be trained for simple functions. But while it'd take a while to so train the zombies, it'd take comparitively little time to program a robot to effectively kill all zombies. Assuming of course, that you have such an advanced robot handy. But then again, it's also predicated on the existence of Romero-esque zombies, so maybe it's not such a stretch to assume you have capable robots reasonably at hand.

I'm still giving it to the robots. But mostly 'cause zombies, particularly Romero's zombies, are (to paraphrase Dave Lister from Red Dwarf) like, 'my all-time worst fear, guy!' I kid you not. Ghosts, vampires, lycanthropes - feh. Zombies? Edge of my seat, cowering and averting my eyes every other second. Goosebumps on goosebumps. I couldn't tell you why.

What about professor Kevin Warwick?
Professor Warwick has nothing on Major Kusanagi!

And I do remember Bob, or Bub - and the shaving.

Forget the shaving, he shot someone with a pistol and had sufficient brain-function remaining to then salute the fallen officer, which is the nub of the matter at hand.

Forget the shaving, he shot someone with a pistol and had sufficient brain-function remaining to then salute the fallen officer, which is the nub of the matter at hand.
The rotting, dessicated nub, surely.

The rotting, dessicated nub, surely.

Don't fall for the breather propaganda: just because something is rotten and dessicated doesn't mean it isn't functional. What the world needs is a whole new Zed aesthetic to sweep away these tired humanocentric notions.

What the world needs is a whole new Zed aesthetic to sweep away these tired humanocentric notions.
How will it differ from the old Zed aesthetic of uhh... being undead, flesh-eating zombies?

How will it differ from the old Zed aesthetic of uhh... being undead, flesh-eating zombies?

The fact that you seem to be employing the terms 'undead' and 'flesh-eating' as perjoratives answers the question. The same terms are equally applicable to the majority of breathers (vegetarians/vegans excepted) yet do not have such negative connotations.

The fact that you seem to be employing the terms 'undead' and 'flesh-eating' as perjoratives answers the question. The same terms are equally applicable to the majority of breathers (vegetarians/vegans excepted) yet do not have such negative connotations.
I don't know, calling vegans 'undead' seems plausible enough to me. And 'undead' would carry negative connotations for anyone, vegans included. However, I heretofore amend my earlier use of the term 'flesh-eating' and will henceforth refer to the act perpetrated alternatively as 'cannibalistic' instead.

However, I heretofore amend my earlier use of the term 'flesh-eating' and will henceforth refer to the act perpetrated alternatively as 'cannibalistic' instead.

So, the Catholics are still very much on the hook then?

And here I was thinking the Body of Christ was figurative and all. Heh. No, wait. Ewwwwww.

Whoop-ti-do. His ability to open doors by standing in front of them is hardly a match for the slavering teeth and tearing claws of the oncoming zombie horde. Now, if it was Stelarc we were discussing, then I might give him better odds...

So I take it I'm the only one who wants to put Warwick in front of a horde of ravanous zombies.

Meh...

Forget the shaving, he shot someone with a pistol and had sufficient brain-function remaining to then salute the fallen officer, which is the nub of the matter at hand.

I feel that Bub was saluting in an insulting, caustic way. Like, "yeah, eff you, you 70's porn-star looking shitbird, I'm a 'thing' and I still drilled you with this here .45, and thats what you get for waxing my friend, the creepy scientist guy"...

I feel that Bub was saluting in an insulting, caustic way. Like, "yeah, eff you, you 70's porn-star looking shitbird, I'm a 'thing' and I still drilled you with this here .45, and thats what you get for waxing my friend, the creepy scientist guy"...

Certainly, but the point was that he was saluting at all. It takes a certain amount of brain function to recall how to use a pistol, it takes a certain amount to recognise an individual as holding a military rank, and it takes even more to hold that person in disdain for their particular actions and to act so as to express such disdain.

So I take it I'm the only one who wants to put Warwick in front of a horde of ravanous zombies.

Meh...

Having spent a year in the Universitty of Warwick I certainly think that its a good idea, oh hang on... you meant young mister Kevin, didn't you?

Certainly, but the point was that he was saluting at all. It takes a certain amount of brain function to recall how to use a pistol, it takes a certain amount to recognise an individual as holding a military rank, and it takes even more to hold that person in disdain for their particular actions and to act so as to express such disdain.

True that. Bub was without a doubt one high-functioning zombie. In quiet moments, my thoughts turn to him, and I picture him traveling North, along lonely highways, his sonerous groans drifting across asphalt and dancing with wisps of snow...years later, he founds a small liberal arts college for zombies, and though he publishes scantly, many young zombie grad students find in him a caring and patient mentor...

Seriously, though, you're right.

Zombies, cos they're way cooler than robots.

Haha wow an actual debate. :00 ok maybe robots are better at killing things but come on guys. who is more awesome. :( clearly it is zombies.

Y'know, it's been twenty years since I saw Day Of The Dead, and when I did it was on a 13-inch colour monitor. So it was an underground RV storage cavern they were in? I vaguely remember it was undergound with lots of military or paramilitary guys.

It's been a while here as well, but I thought it was an old abandoned salt mine coonverted into a bunker.

And I'm fairly sure it was Bub.