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I have a problem

Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 14:50
Well it seems the easiest way to get your questions answered and I'm curently home alone so here is my problem:

I just got asked in by a girl who said no-one of her familiy was home, when I got there we went to her room where she showed me her bunny ears and tail and lay down on her bed.
And when I kissed her she said I shouldn't have and that I should go.

Was there any other interpretation?
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 15:17
Clearly she wanted you to put the bunny ears and tail on first.
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 15:19
Of course, why didn't I notice? :headbang:
Yallak
06-12-2005, 15:22
Oh yes! A shameful day for you - how could you miss something so important!
Tderjeckistan
06-12-2005, 15:23
Clearly she wanted you to put the bunny ears and tail on first.
My interpretation as well. Some kind of zoophilia thingy, perhaps?

Or maybe you're just the hell of a bad kisser.
Puddytat
06-12-2005, 15:26
I dunno I'd put it down personally to rational behaviou

Of course I am an Athro Furry Kittren of course <G>

you don't happen to have her number, looking for someone to snudge myself
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 15:28
My interpretation as well. Some kind of zoophilia thingy, perhaps?

Or maybe you're just the hell of a bad kisser.

We barely even thouched lips, let alone opening mouths, so I'm gonna have to go with the zoophilia thing.

Unless anyone else has a theory?
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 15:28
My interpretation as well. Some kind of zoophilia thingy, perhaps?

Or maybe you're just the hell of a bad kisser.

LOL

To Cute little girls: how old are you? How old is she? When/how did you meet her?

Maybe she just got nervous, or maybe you moved too fast.
Nadkor
06-12-2005, 15:29
Maybe she just wanted to lie down...on her bed. With a guy.
The Armed Pandas
06-12-2005, 15:30
She sounds like a nutter.

RUN. RUN AWAY FAST.
Tderjeckistan
06-12-2005, 15:33
Maybe she just wanted to lie down...on her bed. With a guy.
... wearing bunny ears and tail...

:)
Nadkor
06-12-2005, 15:34
... wearing bunny ears and tail...

:)

Yup.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Puddytat
06-12-2005, 15:35
We barely even thouched lips, let alone opening mouths, so I'm gonna have to go with the zoophilia thing.

Unless anyone else has a theory?

Call it Furry, Yiffy or even furry deviant, but isn't zoophilia

next time, comment on her ears and tickle behind them, drives bunnies nuts.
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 15:36
LOL

To Cute little girls: how old are you? How old is she? When/how did you meet her?

Maybe she just got nervous, or maybe you moved too fast.

Well I'm 18, she's 17 and we know each other for longer than a year (she's in my class)
This year she started acting all flirty around me and when I got invited in, well...:rolleyes:
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 15:37
I start losing my faith in girls:p
Kanabia
06-12-2005, 15:37
Is bunny ears and tail a euphenism for severe acute cameltoe?
The Squeaky Rat
06-12-2005, 15:37
Was there any other interpretation?

*Points at the "rape is never a womans fault" topic*

Lession one can learn from that:

No man should EVER assume a woman wants to be kissed etc unless she says so clearly and gives it to you in writing. And even then you should ask confirmation every 3 seconds.

So you were obviously at fault. Shame on you.
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 15:41
*Points at the "rape is never a womans fault" topic*

Lession one can learn from that:

No man should EVER assume a woman wants to be kissed etc unless she says so clearly and gives it to you in writing. And even then you should ask confirmation every 3 seconds.

So you were obviously at fault. Shame on you.

Dude, that's the point!
I asked her: "Can I kiss you?"
She said: "No"
I said: "Can I kiss you?"
She said: "Yes"
I kissed her
She let her dog in and pretended nothing happened.
When I wanted to kiss her again she refused strongly and made it clear that it was better if I left.

And a couple of minutes ago: she started talking to me about school and the exams:eek:
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 15:46
That's the problem you dimwit. You should not have asked her for permission to kiss her...it turns girls off. Every time you ask a woamn permission for something you lose points because she sees you as needy and unsure of yourself. If she brought you on her bed...clearly that sends a message idiot.

Never ever try to get permission from a woman, never. Now you have severly turned her off and have no chance with her anymore if you continue to be a wussy.

An d the guys that ask the girl for the kiss are idiots. If you're on a first date or stuff like that... try to let her kiss you first then back off and kiss on your own terms. Never on hers.

P.S. I forgot you should have made this issue clear when you first started the thread. It's that, or you have very very bad dog breath, get it!
Lee Valley
06-12-2005, 15:47
Dude, this is a common phenonemon amongst members of the female race.

You see, they want the attention - and you obviously gave her that. Therefore she had already won the mental battle that was raging (even tho it was oblivious to you).

If you want her, then you have to start ignoring her, and flirt with other girls. She will then want sex with you. FACT.
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 15:49
Dude, this is a common phenonemon amongst members of the female race.

You see, they want the attention - and you obviously gave her that. Therefore she had already won the mental battle that was raging (even tho it was oblivious to you).

If you want her, then you have to start ignoring her, and flirt with other girls. She will then want sex with you. FACT.


Exactly this is a guy that "gets it"! But still he screwed up look at my post!
Gracerograd
06-12-2005, 15:50
She sounds really weird. I'd advise trying to get with a girl who doesn't change her mind all the time and act like a nutter.

I agree with the permission thing, it's a bit weird to ask for kissing. Obviously for anything more you should say something along the lines of 'is this ok?' but nah... asking to kiss someone is weird. Unless you're like my boyfriend and can somehow manage to make it a cute thing to say. I haven't got a clue how he did that.
The Squeaky Rat
06-12-2005, 15:51
Dude, that's the point!

My post wasn't entirely serious - sorry for not making that clearer. The way you describe it, she was seducing you, followed by being unsure of her feelings/wants/needs.

Of course, your description may be slightly biased...
Pure Metal
06-12-2005, 15:51
And a couple of minutes ago: she started talking to me about school and the exams:eek:
women :rolleyes: ;)

i have no clue whats going on there frankly, cos i'm a nerd, and its not our duty to know. ask a jock or something :p
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 15:52
Dude, this is a common phenonemon amongst members of the female race.

You see, they want the attention - and you obviously gave her that. Therefore she had already won the mental battle that was raging (even tho it was oblivious to you).

If you want her, then you have to start ignoring her, and flirt with other girls. She will then want sex with you. FACT.

Thanks for the advice:D
Well I was planning on doing so, anyway , thanks
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 15:53
She sounds really weird. I'd advise trying to get with a girl who doesn't change her mind all the time and act like a nutter.

I agree with the permission thing, it's a bit weird to ask for kissing. Obviously for anything more you should say something along the lines of 'is this ok?' but nah... asking to kiss someone is weird. Unless you're like my boyfriend and can somehow manage to make it a cute thing to say. I haven't got a clue how he did that.

All girls, women are nuttery...at least it seems so to us...women are illogical to guys...but when you understand where that illogical thinking comes from and what it means it becomes logic from her standpoint!

As Freud said, the only thing I will never know is what women want!
SingJessims
06-12-2005, 16:08
Um, kay, Not all girls are weird thanks. Some of us happen to be very normal. Also not all of us play mind games. I happen to think they are dumb and pointless and frankly the games you guys play are freaking ridiculious.

NEways I happen to think maybe she just got freaked out for a bit...she flirts with you, thinks she wants you for sure, but the reality of you being in her room was just to much for her, especially at 17.

As for asking if you could kiss her, I thought that was sweet. (this is coming from a girl remember) My ex did that when he first asked me out and we dated for 3 years. I'm not saying that you should do it all the time, as I am in whole hearted agreement that a girl definately wants a guy who takes charge and just gives her an unexpected kiss and takes her breathe away... ahhhh...okay I strayed there....sorry.

I think you should try the whole flirting thing, but don't get to cocky about it cause that will just make her think you're a jerk and turn her attentions to someone else.
Kanabia
06-12-2005, 16:11
Um, kay, Not all girls are weird thanks. Some of us happen to be very normal.

You may be normal for a woman, but...you're still weird. We guys don't understand things that work randomly and have no logic to anything they do. :p
Deep Kimchi
06-12-2005, 16:24
I'm not saying that you should do it all the time, as I am in whole hearted agreement that a girl definately wants a guy who takes charge and just gives her an unexpected kiss and takes her breathe away... ahhhh...okay I strayed there....sorry.

And the guy has to read minds in order to be able to tell when this is acceptable.

Believe me, women change and get better once they're in their late 20s or older.

Far less confusing.
Kanabia
06-12-2005, 16:29
And the guy has to read minds in order to be able to tell when this is acceptable.

Believe me, women change and get better once they're in their late 20s or older.

Far less confusing.

*homer simpson voice* late 20s? But I want it now :(
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 16:31
And the guy has to read minds in order to be able to tell when this is acceptable.

Believe me, women change and get better once they're in their late 20s or older.

Far less confusing.

No they are less confusing when they are 30, until that age they are confusing still.

And as for mind games...ALL WOMEN play MIND GAMES. Everyone of them....maybe the ones that get less attention and are not so pleasant to the eye don't but still all women play games.

It's understanding them that will give you the edge...

As for the guy , she's already won round one!!! But not the war...
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 16:32
Never ever try to get permission from a woman, never. Now you have severly turned her off and have no chance with her anymore if you continue to be a wussy

Ladies and gents, we're still alive
by the skin of our teeth, now it's [raping] time

Yes, that's right, stupid man. You just got pwned by a slightly altered Megadeth lyric. And I'm serious. You sound like a rapist.
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 16:32
*homer simpson voice* late 20s? But I want it now :(

So? get with the older women. The ones in their late 20s.
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 16:34
And as for mind games...ALL WOMEN play MIND GAMES. Everyone of them....maybe the ones that get less attention and are not so pleasant to the eye don't but still all women play games.



You know, I can't decide if it was the glaring inconsistency of the block capitals that were more effective in swaying me
The Similized world
06-12-2005, 16:35
So? get with the older women. The ones in their late 20s.
And remember, the older they are, the more they'll pay ;)
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 16:35
Ladies and gents, we're still alive
by the skin of our teeth, now it's [raping] time

Yes, that's right, stupid man. You just got pwned by a slightly altered Megadeth lyric. And I'm serious. You sound like a rapist.


You are sick you know that. I was never advocating rape stinkass. I was talking about kissing...and yes you should never ask a woman for PERMISSION to do anything.

If you're crazy enough to even think about raping, oh yeah then go ahead and ask, can I rape you....... You are such an idiot!
Kanabia
06-12-2005, 16:36
So? get with the older women. The ones in their late 20s.

I'm a 19 year old bum uni student with no car or for that matter, any ambition to speak of. I doubt the plausability of that.
Pure Metal
06-12-2005, 16:37
You just got pwned by a slightly altered Megadeth lyric...
wow, a novel tactic that could win any arguement against me :p
unless of course i have some alterated 'tallica lyrics to throw right back at you ;)
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 16:39
I'm a 19 year old bum uni student with no car or for that matter, any ambition to speak of. I doubt the possibility.


You don't have to be rich or have a car to get women...it helps but believe me it's really not everything....

Women are more attracted to your personnality...than what you have as material posessions!

If you know how to bust her balls, and be cocky and funny at the same time, you have half of the game won!
The Squeaky Rat
06-12-2005, 16:40
I'm a 19 year old bum uni student with no car or for that matter, any ambition to speak of. I doubt the possibility.

You would be surprised how many women in their late 30s and early 40s fancy the notion of a nice young lover to forget the monotony of being good housewives .
Of course in those cases there is the whole moral problem of having a secret affair with a married woman, possibly with kids - maybe of your own age even. Not really a solid relationship iow..
Kanabia
06-12-2005, 16:52
You don't have to be rich or have a car to get women...it helps but believe me it's really not everything....

Women are more attracted to your personnality...than what you have as material posessions!

If you know how to bust her balls, and be cocky and funny at the same time, you have half of the game won!

We're talking about older women, though...

You would be surprised how many women in their late 30s and early 40s fancy the notion of a nice young lover to forget the monotony of being good housewives .
Of course in those cases there is the whole moral problem of having a secret affair with a married woman, possibly with kids - maybe of your own age even. Not really a solid relationship iow..

Meh. I don't get the whole milf thing. Not saying I wouldn't, but...it just doesn't get me all that excited.
Cluichstan
06-12-2005, 16:56
Bunny ears and tail, eh? Howsabout trying to hook up with a chick who's not a freak?
Mirkai
06-12-2005, 17:05
You kissed her before the hidden camera started filming.
Cluichstan
06-12-2005, 17:09
You kissed her before the hidden camera started filming.

Yup, you didn't wait for her to yell, "ACTION!" :p
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 17:18
You are sick you know that. I was never advocating rape stinkass. I was talking about kissing...and yes you should never ask a woman for PERMISSION to do anything.


I know i'm sick.

And if you should never ask for permission for anything from a woman, does that include sex? Money?
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 17:19
wow, a novel tactic that could win any arguement against me :p
unless of course i have some alterated 'tallica lyrics to throw right back at you ;)

Don't make me get the Maiden out...:D
Pure Metal
06-12-2005, 17:21
Don't make me get the Maiden out...:D
:p :p
Legless Pirates
06-12-2005, 17:26
You should have showed her your elephant
Qwystyria
06-12-2005, 17:27
Well it seems the easiest way to get your questions answered and I'm curently home alone so here is my problem:

I just got asked in by a girl who said no-one of her familiy was home, when I got there we went to her room where she showed me her bunny ears and tail and lay down on her bed.
And when I kissed her she said I shouldn't have and that I should go.

Was there any other interpretation?

You boys are ALL off your rockers. :rolleyes: And most of you seem to know NOTHING about women.

She was clearly trying to seduce you. But that doesn't mean she wants sex. It just means she wants you to want her. Did you back off after just a peck on the lips, or was it at least a decent lip-kiss? If it was just a peck, after you went so far as to ask if you could kiss her, shame on you! That's SUCH a let-down. Once a guy asked if he could kiss me, and I was so floored (I didn't even know he liked me) I kinda said "uh,... ok, I guess?" and he gave me a peck on the cheek. Heh. I fled so fast he didn't know what happened. Poor guy, I was just so blown away by both his like and his idiocy. If you have permission to kiss, at least make it a kiss, and don't back off! That is not to say open mouth, tongue, but make it a kiss.

Then she said go. Probably either the kiss blew it, or she just realised she was trying to seduce a guy in the room she grew up in, which is just a freaky weird thing to begin with. I'd STILL feel weird having sex in my childhood room, and I've been married a while. She also could've just felt bad about the whole thing and had second thoughts when her feelings took off too. D'you know if she's had sex before even? She probably just freaked and changed her mind. Unless it was that kiss, it was probably nothing about you. It COULD even be that she had more feelings for you than she thought, and just couldn't handle it.

Finally, on the topic of asking, I always thought it was pretty cheezy turn-off if someone asked to kiss me. I'd suggest asking what she'd like, or asking if she'd like a kiss. That can still be tantalizing and tempting, and makes you feel closer instead of farther apart and seperate to need permission. And still you're kinda asking for permission. Of course, if you ask what she wants, be prepared for some other answer. If you ask if she wants a kiss, get in close, and say it soft and teasing... but whatever you do, don't just say "can I kiss you?" It'll only remind her that you probably shouldn't be.
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 17:27
I know i'm sick.

And if you should never ask for permission for anything from a woman, does that include sex? Money?


Again you're taking averything out of context... you really are a sick person.
As if I said anything concerning rape or theft, or murder, or anything immoral that you are coming up with.

Go get some psychiatric help...looks like Mustaine has had some really good influence on you...you must be doing crack and cocaine right now.

Don't ask her permission, and this is to all who are not mentally disturbed as this guy is, because you will look weak, and women don't like wussies and weak men..... and not asking permission doesn't have anything to do with rape, or money theft or any god awful thing that this guy comes up...

Don't let women be the boss of the situation...it doesn't help you and they don't like it either when they can control you!

This guy obviously does not know anything about women, and he might be an uber feminist, which if you are, you are shameful and a disgrace
Cluichstan
06-12-2005, 17:28
You boys are ALL off your rockers. :rolleyes: And most of you seem to know NOTHING about women.

She was clearly trying to seduce you. But that doesn't mean she wants sex. It just means she wants you to want her. Did you back off after just a peck on the lips, or was it at least a decent lip-kiss? If it was just a peck, after you went so far as to ask if you could kiss her, shame on you! That's SUCH a let-down. Once a guy asked if he could kiss me, and I was so floored (I didn't even know he liked me) I kinda said "uh,... ok, I guess?" and he gave me a peck on the cheek. Heh. I fled so fast he didn't know what happened. Poor guy, I was just so blown away by both his like and his idiocy. If you have permission to kiss, at least make it a kiss, and don't back off! That is not to say open mouth, tongue, but make it a kiss.

Then she said go. Probably either the kiss blew it, or she just realised she was trying to seduce a guy in the room she grew up in, which is just a freaky weird thing to begin with. I'd STILL feel weird having sex in my childhood room, and I've been married a while. She also could've just felt bad about the whole thing and had second thoughts when her feelings took off too. D'you know if she's had sex before even? She probably just freaked and changed her mind. Unless it was that kiss, it was probably nothing about you. It COULD even be that she had more feelings for you than she thought, and just couldn't handle it.

Finally, on the topic of asking, I always thought it was pretty cheezy turn-off if someone asked to kiss me. I'd suggest asking what she'd like, or asking if she'd like a kiss. That can still be tantalizing and tempting, and makes you feel closer instead of farther apart and seperate to need permission. And still you're kinda asking for permission. Of course, if you ask what she wants, be prepared for some other answer. If you ask if she wants a kiss, get in close, and say it soft and teasing... but whatever you do, don't just say "can I kiss you?" It'll only remind her that you probably shouldn't be.

This rant brought to you by Qwystyria. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
Qwystyria
06-12-2005, 17:32
This rant brought to you by Qwystyria. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

Yes well, if you've read the other threads I've posted in, I tend to need a and command fairly frequently. :D

One last thought... if you do ask if she'd like a kiss, and she says yes, that doesn't mean you immediately jump on it before she changes her mind. Take your time and make her like it. Rushing things just ruins them. ;)
Megaloria
06-12-2005, 17:32
Run back in there, yell "WABBIT season!" and hit that.
Eutrusca
06-12-2005, 17:32
You should have showed her your elephant
ROFLMFAO!!! OMG! Hahahahaha! :D
Kanabia
06-12-2005, 17:33
ROFLMFAO!!! OMG! Hahahahaha! :D

LOL, seconded...call of the day.
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 17:34
You boys are ALL off your rockers. :rolleyes: And most of you seem to know NOTHING about women.

She was clearly trying to seduce you. But that doesn't mean she wants sex. It just means she wants you to want her. Did you back off after just a peck on the lips, or was it at least a decent lip-kiss? If it was just a peck, after you went so far as to ask if you could kiss her, shame on you! That's SUCH a let-down. Once a guy asked if he could kiss me, and I was so floored (I didn't even know he liked me) I kinda said "uh,... ok, I guess?" and he gave me a peck on the cheek. Heh. I fled so fast he didn't know what happened. Poor guy, I was just so blown away by both his like and his idiocy. If you have permission to kiss, at least make it a kiss, and don't back off! That is not to say open mouth, tongue, but make it a kiss.

Then she said go. Probably either the kiss blew it, or she just realised she was trying to seduce a guy in the room she grew up in, which is just a freaky weird thing to begin with. I'd STILL feel weird having sex in my childhood room, and I've been married a while. She also could've just felt bad about the whole thing and had second thoughts when her feelings took off too. D'you know if she's had sex before even? She probably just freaked and changed her mind. Unless it was that kiss, it was probably nothing about you. It COULD even be that she had more feelings for you than she thought, and just couldn't handle it.

Finally, on the topic of asking, I always thought it was pretty cheezy turn-off if someone asked to kiss me. I'd suggest asking what she'd like, or asking if she'd like a kiss. That can still be tantalizing and tempting, and makes you feel closer instead of farther apart and seperate to need permission. And still you're kinda asking for permission. Of course, if you ask what she wants, be prepared for some other answer. If you ask if she wants a kiss, get in close, and say it soft and teasing... but whatever you do, don't just say "can I kiss you?" It'll only remind her that you probably shouldn't be.


Whatever...times have changed lady...it's not the dawn of innocence anymore. This is a full blown game , a mean game, an unfair game...somebody's got to win....

Oh one thing that you could say to her: Kiss me...so you're putting the pressure on her, doing something that she doesn't anticipate at all, because guys are supposed to kiss girls first...well supposed to...that why you create a tension in which you can see if she really likes you, if she doesn't kiss you, well maybe next time
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 17:36
You boys are ALL off your rockers. :rolleyes: And most of you seem to know NOTHING about women.

She was clearly trying to seduce you. But that doesn't mean she wants sex. It just means she wants you to want her. Did you back off after just a peck on the lips, or was it at least a decent lip-kiss? If it was just a peck, after you went so far as to ask if you could kiss her, shame on you! That's SUCH a let-down. Once a guy asked if he could kiss me, and I was so floored (I didn't even know he liked me) I kinda said "uh,... ok, I guess?" and he gave me a peck on the cheek. Heh. I fled so fast he didn't know what happened. Poor guy, I was just so blown away by both his like and his idiocy. If you have permission to kiss, at least make it a kiss, and don't back off! That is not to say open mouth, tongue, but make it a kiss.

Then she said go. Probably either the kiss blew it, or she just realised she was trying to seduce a guy in the room she grew up in, which is just a freaky weird thing to begin with. I'd STILL feel weird having sex in my childhood room, and I've been married a while. She also could've just felt bad about the whole thing and had second thoughts when her feelings took off too. D'you know if she's had sex before even? She probably just freaked and changed her mind. Unless it was that kiss, it was probably nothing about you. It COULD even be that she had more feelings for you than she thought, and just couldn't handle it.

Finally, on the topic of asking, I always thought it was pretty cheezy turn-off if someone asked to kiss me. I'd suggest asking what she'd like, or asking if she'd like a kiss. That can still be tantalizing and tempting, and makes you feel closer instead of farther apart and seperate to need permission. And still you're kinda asking for permission. Of course, if you ask what she wants, be prepared for some other answer. If you ask if she wants a kiss, get in close, and say it soft and teasing... but whatever you do, don't just say "can I kiss you?" It'll only remind her that you probably shouldn't be.

I wasn't implying sex or anything and it WAS a decent kiss, but hell, I think you might have a point

EDIT: I asked her because I belive in freedom, like the freedom to choose instead of just jumping on her and finding out she doesn't want me.

It was just weird, kissing someone and then being told to get out:(
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 17:36
Again you're taking averything out of context... you really are a sick person.
As if I said anything concerning rape or theft, or murder, or anything immoral that you are coming up with.

You said to never ask permission. I can totally understand a "It's better to be assertive and not feel the need to ask permission" midset, but never asking permission is just stupid, like pretty much every generalisation.

Go get some psychiatric help...looks like Mustaine has had some really good influence on you...you must be doing crack and cocaine right now.

Psychiatric help? Ahahahahahaha! Ha! Oh, and as for Dave Mustaine's influence on my life

I like the things that you try to fake

And of course, my taste in music automatically makes me do drugs. Heard some 50 cent on the radio this morning, so excuse me while I go shoot some ho with a gold-plated bling gun. Or something.

Don't ask her permission, and this is to all who are not mentally disturbed as this guy is, because you will look weak, and women don't like wussies and weak men..... and not asking permission doesn't have anything to do with rape, or money theft or any god awful thing that this guy comes up...

Don't let women be the boss of the situation...it doesn't help you and they don't like it either when they can control you!

Depends on the man, the woman and the situation. Sweeping generalisations are rarely helpful.

This guy obviously does not know anything about women, and he might be an uber feminist, which if you are, you are shameful and a disgrace

Yes, I'm a feminist. And I know enough about women for what I need to know. I also know enough to know that I don't know everything. Unlike you.
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 17:56
You said to never ask permission. I can totally understand a "It's better to be assertive and not feel the need to ask permission" midset, but never asking permission is just stupid, like pretty much every generalisation.



Psychiatric help? Ahahahahahaha! Ha! Oh, and as for Dave Mustaine's influence on my life

I like the things that you try to fake

And of course, my taste in music automatically makes me do drugs. Heard some 50 cent on the radio this morning, so excuse me while I go shoot some ho with a gold-plated bling gun. Or something.



Depends on the man, the woman and the situation. Sweeping generalisations are rarely helpful.



Yes, I'm a feminist. And I know enough about women for what I need to know. I also know enough to know that I don't know everything. Unlike you.


Whatever...it was you who was generalising the first...

And what makes you think I listen to rap, are you implying I listen to rap..

Rock and Hard Rock rule : Europe, Dio, Alter Bridge

I think we should make peace because talking to you is like talking to a Jehovas' Witness, will never get my point across
I Love Oranges
06-12-2005, 18:01
Whatever...times have changed lady...it's not the dawn of innocence anymore. This is a full blown game , a mean game, an unfair game...somebody's got to win....

Oh one thing that you could say to her: Kiss me...so you're putting the pressure on her, doing something that she doesn't anticipate at all, because guys are supposed to kiss girls first...well supposed to...that why you create a tension in which you can see if she really likes you, if she doesn't kiss you, well maybe next time

i feel sorry for any woman that has to come into contact with you if ypur gonna have that attitude. no you don't have to always ask, but sometimes if you just make a move they can get very awkward especially if they weren't expecting it. you should at least wait for a sign, and personally, i think if you ask right your not "acting like a wussy" but you are taking into account the other persons say in the matter
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 18:06
Whatever...it was you who was generalising the first...

Nope. Go and check post 19. That's you, with a generalisation.

And what makes you think I listen to rap, are you implying I listen to rap..

And you called me stupid...

I think we should make peace because talking to you is like talking to a Jehovas' Witness, will never get my point across

Fair enough. And there's a reason you can't make me accept your point. It's because it sucks
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 18:34
Nope. Go and check post 19. That's you, with a generalisation.



And you called me stupid...



Fair enough. And there's a reason you can't make me accept your point. It's because it sucks

Guys this is a thread about my problem, remember?

if you wanna fight, i've got some bunny ears
I Love Oranges
06-12-2005, 19:14
Guys this is a thread about my problem, remember?

if you wanna fight, i've got some bunny ears

well the problem is that every girl is different and most of them are giant riddles that are hard to figure out. we don't know this girl or anything about her and so its gonna be hard to give you any actual advice on it. all we can do is give generalisations. if you really like this girl, maybe you should text her and ask her what happened. you could go with the hard to get road but be careful cos that could seriously blow up in your face. if she said yes once when you asked could you kiss her, then maybe just asking her what happened. don't seem angry about and don't come off too needy, its a hard situation but life is like that and you just gotta go with your gut
Cluichstan
06-12-2005, 19:15
Sweeping generalisations are rarely helpful.


I've based my entire life on sweeping generalisations. :p
Eichen
06-12-2005, 19:21
She's a cocktease. Good riddance of the bitch.
Ertalia
06-12-2005, 20:01
i feel sorry for any woman that has to come into contact with you if ypur gonna have that attitude. no you don't have to always ask, but sometimes if you just make a move they can get very awkward especially if they weren't expecting it. you should at least wait for a sign, and personally, i think if you ask right your not "acting like a wussy" but you are taking into account the other persons say in the matter


Yeah whatever...i feel sorry for you and especially some guys, which i will not name, who seem to take sides in this situation. You are attacking any male here and defneding women..you should be ashamed of yourselfs... you haev no, clearly no solidarity.

You may call me macho or sexist or whatever...but the fact is if you read some female psychology and done things to actually prove your gibberish you would know that you are wrong.

As for "cute little girls" i will stop sending my advice to him because it clearly is going nowhere. And who can blame you you are only 18. You willlearn with experience.

Thread closed!
I Love Oranges
06-12-2005, 20:22
Yeah whatever...i feel sorry for you and especially some guys, which i will not name, who seem to take sides in this situation. You are attacking any male here and defneding women..you should be ashamed of yourselfs... you haev no, clearly no solidarity.

You may call me macho or sexist or whatever...but the fact is if you read some female psychology and done things to actually prove your gibberish you would know that you are wrong.

As for "cute little girls" i will stop sending my advice to him because it clearly is going nowhere. And who can blame you you are only 18. You willlearn with experience.

Thread closed!

you don't have the power to close threads, and you completely glossed over the point. i did not side with women not at all. i sided with people. what do you want him to do? go over to her house rip off her door, and force a kiss on her, before taking her to her bedroom ripping off her clothes and showing her just how in charge she is? i'm sure she wouldn't be at all against the idea, she would just swoon at his manliness and give in to all his demands just like a woman should do. then she will go and make him a pie while he downs beers with his friends, wow, what an idea, love really is still alive

*note sarcasm*
Cute little girls
06-12-2005, 20:23
you don't have the power to close threads, and you completely glossed over the point. i did not side with women not at all. i sided with people. what do you want him to do? go over to her house rip off her door, and force a kiss on her, before taking her to her bedroom ripping off her clothes and showing her just how in charge she is? i'm sure she wouldn't be at all against the idea, she would just swoon at his manliness and give in to all his demands just like a woman should do. then she will go and make him a pie while he downs beers with his friends, wow, what an idea, love really is still alive

*note sarcasm*

Hey, that might work:p
Gracerograd
06-12-2005, 20:48
Don't let women be the boss of the situation...it doesn't help you and they don't like it either when they can control you!

........ yes we do.
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 21:43
........ yes we do.

That's a pwning, right there.
Heron-Marked Warriors
06-12-2005, 21:43
I've based my entire life on sweeping generalisations. :p

Yeah, but I said rarely.

And besides, since when were you helpful?:p
Cluichstan
06-12-2005, 21:48
Yeah, but I said rarely.

And besides, since when were you helpful?:p

Never, I hope. ;)
GoodThoughts
06-12-2005, 23:28
Guys this is a thread about my problem, remember?

if you wanna fight, i've got some bunny ears

Stay away from this bunny.
SingJessims
08-12-2005, 06:05
Sigh, I remember highschool dating....wouldn't go back to it for the world...
Not that dating in University is much different...but at least where I am there isn't that stupid
girl1: I like tommy
girl2: so tell him* thinks: you bitch...I like tommy*
girl1: no i am afraid you ask him out
girl2: fine *walks over to tommy* Tommy, I have a friend who likes you, but I can't say who but do you like her and want to date her?
Tommy: is it girl1?
girl2: maybe
Tommy: *thinks: hmmm...girl1 is hot...gonna get laid* yeah sure
girl2: great*walks back to girl1: yeah he'll date you
girl1: yippee woo hoo *jumps for joy and floats away on cloud nine*
girl2: congrats *thinks: I'll cut you bitch...just you wait..I'll cut you*

Ugh that got bad...and in highschool everything is sex....even the confusion in this forum is about whether she wanted to sleep with him/seduce him or just kiss him or set him up...

Buddy my advice is just find a new girl....*yes i know this is different than before but if you don't know what you want now....go experiment*
AnarchyeL
08-12-2005, 08:03
Maybe she just wanted to lie down...on her bed. With a guy.

Yeah... Leave it to a guy to think there is "no other interpretation" besides, "Do me! Do me!!"
AnarchyeL
08-12-2005, 08:07
Well I'm 18, she's 17 and we know each other for longer than a year (she's in my class)
This year she started acting all flirty around me and when I got invited in, well...:rolleyes:

Again, you have to try to overcome guy-think and think like a girl.

Girls think, "Hold hands." Guys think, "hand job!"
Girls think, "Lie down and talk." Guys think, "lie down and.... woo-hoo!!!!"
The Squeaky Rat
08-12-2005, 08:22
Girls think, "Lie down and talk."

"in my cute and fluffy bunny suit"
AnarchyeL
08-12-2005, 08:22
Dude, that's the point!
I asked her: "Can I kiss you?"
She said: "No"
I said: "Can I kiss you?"
She said: "Yes"

After she said "no" the first time, why would you ask again?

That's what some of us call "pressure."
Northern Isle
08-12-2005, 08:25
Well it seems the easiest way to get your questions answered and I'm curently home alone so here is my problem:

I just got asked in by a girl who said no-one of her familiy was home, when I got there we went to her room where she showed me her bunny ears and tail and lay down on her bed.
And when I kissed her she said I shouldn't have and that I should go.

Was there any other interpretation?

Did she say she liked you or give a sign that she wanted a kiss?
For her to lay down on the bed does not mean she wants you to kiss her.

If she did give a sign and you still had to go means she is playing Really Hard to Get, Man. Or something else, women are hard to get enoght said.

Good Luck.
Kanabia
08-12-2005, 08:31
"in my cute and fluffy bunny suit"

Point.
Forfania Gottesleugner
08-12-2005, 08:50
Well it seems the easiest way to get your questions answered and I'm curently home alone so here is my problem:

I just got asked in by a girl who said no-one of her familiy was home, when I got there we went to her room where she showed me her bunny ears and tail and lay down on her bed.
And when I kissed her she said I shouldn't have and that I should go.

Was there any other interpretation?

Alright I've read through this thread and I keep coming back to one point. Explain further the "she showed me her bunny ears and tail and lay down on her bed". Haha this isn't just because it is hilarious but surely this (costume? genetic disorder?) has some importance to her. Why did she have this and was it not totally a surprise to you that she showed them to you? What would be the backround for this to happen when she asked you over? I feel like my advice would be much more helpful if you told me that and thus I got an insight into what is going on in that situation.
AnarchyeL
08-12-2005, 08:53
You don't always have to literally "ask".

More importantly, you have to be able to live with the fact that everything you do (asking, not asking, kissing, not kissing) is just a risk. Some risks are better than others, but unless you're in a room with a downright ho-bag, it's always a risk... (Actually, that's just a different kind of risk.)

Example 1:

I was up half the night with this girl, working on a project... and we had to be up rather early in the morning, so she decided to just spend the night. We wound up lying down for a nap together in my bed... and we were talking, and things seemed to be going well... so, I leaned over and kissed her. She kissed me back, at first... but then:

She said, "I don't think we should do this." I laughed, said "okay" and we went to sleep.

Much later, I found out she's gay. :)

Example 2:

I had met this woman, Erica, only once, through a friend of mine (who, unbeknownst to me, was using me as his wingman so he could get with her friend). We decided to meet again, at the same bar... but when my friend Paul and I arrived, she was there with all the women from her feminist film group.

Paul and I sat down and chatted with them for a bit... but the whole time, the girl I was after didn't say two words to me. After a few drinks, Paul and I decided that we should move on to see what other action we could find that night. We left.

As we walked across the street, however, Erica came running out after us. She stopped me in the middle of the street to ask for my phone number. (Previously, we had been in touch only through Paul.) I gave it to her, and then on an impulse I kissed her -- quick, but not too quick, on the lips.

She gasped, "bold!" She was very impressed. (My "boldness" may have ultimately overcome her trepidation at dating a guy eight years younger than she.) A few days later, we went on a date (had sex) and, three years later we are still quite happily in love.


The lesson is, "you never know." I certainly had better "signals" in the first case, but that didn't work out. You can try to get better at reading the signs (every experience is another lesson), but you always have to be ready for rejection.
Evil little girls
08-12-2005, 21:55
Did she say she liked you or give a sign that she wanted a kiss?
For her to lay down on the bed does not mean she wants you to kiss her.

If she did give a sign and you still had to go means she is playing Really Hard to Get, Man. Or something else, women are hard to get enoght said.

Good Luck.

SHE WAS WEARING A PLAYBOY-BUNNY SUIT

how's that for a signal?
Evil little girls
08-12-2005, 22:02
Alright I've read through this thread and I keep coming back to one point. Explain further the "she showed me her bunny ears and tail and lay down on her bed". Haha this isn't just because it is hilarious but surely this (costume? genetic disorder?) has some importance to her. Why did she have this and was it not totally a surprise to you that she showed them to you? What would be the backround for this to happen when she asked you over? I feel like my advice would be much more helpful if you told me that and thus I got an insight into what is going on in that situation.

Well, it was after an exam, she asked me to accompany her to her house.
A bit later she talked to me about how nice it was, coming home, having no parents there, being able to do the whole afternoon whatever you wanted... (did I mention she had been unmistakenly flirting with me for some time?)
And well, when she showed me her playboy-bunny ears and room, I thought it was a pretty clear signal.
Cute little girls
08-12-2005, 22:08
(for your information, I'm Evil and Cute little girls, I get 'em mixed up sometimes)
Legless Pirates
08-12-2005, 22:09
(for your information, I'm Evil and Cute little girls, I get 'em mixed up sometimes)
You are damn right you are evil! Kissing a girl for no reason at all....pfft!
Cute little girls
08-12-2005, 22:12
You are damn right you are evil! Kissing a girl for no reason at all....pfft!

But at least I'm cute too;)
Forfania Gottesleugner
08-12-2005, 23:58
Well, it was after an exam, she asked me to accompany her to her house.
A bit later she talked to me about how nice it was, coming home, having no parents there, being able to do the whole afternoon whatever you wanted... (did I mention she had been unmistakenly flirting with me for some time?)
And well, when she showed me her playboy-bunny ears and room, I thought it was a pretty clear signal.

So they are playboy Bunny ears? I dunno with that information I'd say you definately looked like a loser asking to kiss her and then when it wasn't going as she imagined she got all scared and such. Your fine just play it cool hang out with her and the next time you get a signs I'd say just go for it and look like you have balls. If she backs away or it's clear she's not interested then stop. At that point it's over she doesn't want anything. Maybe say your confused or something for extra clarification at that point. Just judge the situation I think she just got skiddish.
Lee Valley
26-02-2006, 16:39
I know this thread has been dead for a while... but I just read through it again, and burst out laughing several times from some of the comments.

Genius.

So what's the latest news on this story, Cute Little Girls?
Jenrak
26-02-2006, 17:05
SHE WAS WEARING A PLAYBOY-BUNNY SUIT

:eek:
Galloism
26-02-2006, 17:08
This forum is why I never have time to read the morning paper anymore. I am too busy laughing my butt off.
The Half-Hidden
26-02-2006, 17:41
Well it seems the easiest way to get your questions answered and I'm curently home alone so here is my problem:

I just got asked in by a girl who said no-one of her familiy was home, when I got there we went to her room where she showed me her bunny ears and tail and lay down on her bed.
And when I kissed her she said I shouldn't have and that I should go.

Was there any other interpretation?
Are "bunny ears" and "tail" euphemisms? Cos this sounds strange.
ThatPlacewiththeJello
26-02-2006, 17:47
Maybe you were on an LSD trip, and it wasn't a girl at all, but a bunny. Maybe you kissed her bunny instead of her!
No wonder she told you to leave!
The Half-Hidden
26-02-2006, 18:06
Dude, that's the point!
I asked her: "Can I kiss you?"
She said: "No"
I said: "Can I kiss you?"
She said: "Yes"
I kissed her
She let her dog in and pretended nothing happened.
When I wanted to kiss her again she refused strongly and made it clear that it was better if I left.

And a couple of minutes ago: she started talking to me about school and the exams
Wow. Did this really happen?

I think it's weird to ask to kiss her. If she says no the first time, then don't give her the chance to kiss you again, on that day. By doing what you did you've set up an unequal relationship where she thinks she owns you.

ALL WOMEN play MIND GAMES. Everyone of them....maybe the ones that get less attention and are not so pleasant to the eye don't but still all women play games.
Way to contradict yourself.

She was clearly trying to seduce you. But that doesn't mean she wants sex. It just means she wants you to want her.
Good point. Would you agree, then, that it is better for the original poster to steer clear of such egomaniacs (which this girl clearly is, if your theory is true)?

This guy obviously does not know anything about women, and he might be an uber feminist, which if you are, you are shameful and a disgrace
Let's keep politics out of this!

Whatever...times have changed lady...it's not the dawn of innocence anymore. This is a full blown game , a mean game, an unfair game...somebody's got to win....
At this point, I ask, what the fuck are you talking about?

Yeah whatever...i feel sorry for you and especially some guys, which i will not name, who seem to take sides in this situation. You are attacking any male here and defneding women..you should be ashamed of yourselfs... you haev no, clearly no solidarity.
This thread is not about men vs. women. Neither is life.

Again, you have to try to overcome guy-think and think like a girl.

Girls think, "Hold hands." Guys think, "hand job!"
Girls think, "Lie down and talk." Guys think, "lie down and.... woo-hoo!!!!"
Again with the bullshit generalisations. I know girls who would think the latter, and guys who are more inclined to think the former.

SHE WAS WEARING A PLAYBOY-BUNNY SUIT

how's that for a signal?
That's not a signal. That's a hilarious joke.
Moto the Wise
26-02-2006, 18:25
On the asking for permission thing, one of the most important thing to do is not sound comlpletely serious. If they say yes then do it, then don't mention it again for the rest of the day (unless they bring it up). If they say no, reply "Ok." Cheerily, and continue. This way they are going to be confused and interested no matter what. It does help though if you are a bit wacky (like me!) ;)

Edit: And thinking about it she is as wacky as they come...
New Stalinberg
26-02-2006, 18:48
Bunny Ears and tail? Damn emo kids.
The blessed Chris
26-02-2006, 18:56
Are "bunny ears" and "tail" euphemisms? Cos this sounds strange.

It did strike me as odd.....
Cute little girls
26-02-2006, 19:06
I know this thread has been dead for a while... but I just read through it again, and burst out laughing several times from some of the comments.

Genius.

So what's the latest news on this story, Cute Little Girls?

Well, I just saw it again, and was surprised to see my name on a thread. I was also surprised to read the story again since I had almost forgotten about it.
I don't speak to the girl a lot anymore, think she has a boyfriend or almost, I'm not sure. We haven't spoken about that afternoon anymore :p
I'm pretty happy with that.
Oh and she wasn't emo. At all.
Cute little girls
26-02-2006, 19:07
On the asking for permission thing, one of the most important thing to do is not sound comlpletely serious. If they say yes then do it, then don't mention it again for the rest of the day (unless they bring it up). If they say no, reply "Ok." Cheerily, and continue. This way they are going to be confused and interested no matter what. It does help though if you are a bit wacky (like me!) ;)

Edit: And thinking about it she is as wacky as they come...

Thanks I'll use that advice, I try to think of myself as a bit wacko too
Unwashed Miscreants
26-02-2006, 19:13
I start losing my faith in girls:p

u had faith in girls???????
Eutrusca
26-02-2006, 19:14
Well it seems the easiest way to get your questions answered and I'm curently home alone so here is my problem:

I just got asked in by a girl who said no-one of her familiy was home, when I got there we went to her room where she showed me her bunny ears and tail and lay down on her bed.
And when I kissed her she said I shouldn't have and that I should go.

Was there any other interpretation?
Of course. She was hinting, but you should have taken your time. Patience is a virtue, Grasshopper. :D
Intangelon
26-02-2006, 19:19
Try some conversation first. The bunny ears were likely meant to be a distraction -- a conversation starter.

YOU: What's with the ears?
HER: Oh, I just like 'em, I guess. I put 'em on to feel like a cute little bunny.
YOU: Success. (tickle the ears)
HER: (giggles) Yeah? Do you like cute little bunnies?
YOU: Of course -- especially when they're built like you.

See, you have to play her game if you want to score points on her home turf. This little tease was likely testing her powers of seduction, if not for the very first time, then at least amongst the first few times. It's likely she was internally as nervous as you were (and I know you were, otherwise you'd never have asked to kiss her...that's a classic insecurity, and I'm not faulting you for it, I've made that mistake and I'm 35, for fuck's sake).

Anyway, you work around the edges, looking for your way in. I hate to use such a bad analogy, but an infiltrator in enemy territory doesn't ask the front gate to be let in, he finds the weak spot and gets in that way. You were impatient and insecure. No crimes at 18, far from it. Exercise some patience, do some reconnaisance and for the love of all that's holy, NEVER show enthusiastic interest. Like the others who've already said it, girls that age LOVE to be chased, and love even more to do the chasing -- especially if you're perceived as somehow unreadable or "mysterious." Some men, like me, weren't born to play that game. I can't. Forthrightness and directness are too much a part of my character to ever try to play that game again. In fact, if I sense that kind of manipulation, I usually leave skid marks trying to get away. You've got youth and therefore time on your side. I wish you luck.
Heron-Marked Warriors
26-02-2006, 19:20
u had faith in girls???????

Why wouldn't you?
Nureonia
26-02-2006, 19:25
I would think the "bunny ears and tail" would be a sign saying "THIS CHICK IS CRAZY, STAY AWAY"...

Unless it was at a costume party or something. Which it clearly wasn't.
Cute little girls
26-02-2006, 19:27
I have to ask: why was this thread revitalised, I mean this happened months ago
Lee Valley
26-02-2006, 19:48
I have to ask: why was this thread revitalised, I mean this happened months ago

Because we never find out what actually happened in the end. Plus the fact the thread was pretty fcuking hilarious :D

But now we know you don't really speak to the girl anymore, and that she sorta has a boyfriend (I wonder what tactic he used? Perhaps he let her gnaw on his carrot!?) I guess it's time to close the thread.
Anti-Social Darwinism
26-02-2006, 21:17
I start losing my faith in girls:p

Don't lose your faith in girls, just that one. Avoid her.
The Half-Hidden
27-02-2006, 01:24
I only just noticed that the original post was made in December. Looks like someone was grave-digging.

I find the girl's behaviour interesting. Putting myself in her position, I agree that the kiss was too much, too fast. But asking you to leave I just don't get. Maybe it's because I'm male. I've read that in general teenage girls imagine both positive and negative sexual situations (rape?) while teenage boys tend to only imagine positive ones. So maybe I just lack the necessary insecurities to understand.