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Should religion be a part of the political system?

My oppinion is: NO!!!

Should religion be a part of the political system?

My oppinion is: NO!!!
So then.....did you care about our opinions, or did you just feel like spouting that bit off?

I'll assume the former to be the case. Religious though I may be, I believe that religion has nothing to do with politics, and vice versa. Leave your faith out of your duty to the country.

Should religion be a part of the political system?

My oppinion is: NO!!!

Isn't politics just a form of non-theistic religion?
Edit: And what right do you have to define or control how others form political opinions?

Define "be a part of." Then define "religion" and "political system."

If you want the government to represent the will of the people, I think you *must* include religious parties. But to make that work I think you need to have a many party system with coalition government - not the two-party contruction of the USA.

Perhaps we should ban all religious people from public office, hmmmm?

We can leave it at seperation of church and state.

Since many in the far right can't quite seem to get that, I have to ask the question of what brand of Christianity is it that they wish to cram down everyones throats?

And religious people should not be banned from politics, it should be made very clear that the teachings of their religion are to have no influence whatsoever on their decisions made for the public as a whole.

Another quick point, these right wing nut cases, if you replaced God and Jesus with Allah and Muhammed, they would sound just like the Muslim extremists. Maybe Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Osama Bin Laden have something in common.

(Yes, I said that, will God smite me?)

For the most part I would say no. The goverment certainly should not support one religion over another. Not simply because the US constitution has a seperation, but because I think thats the best way of preventing government from corrupting religion or religion being imposed on the people against their will.

I don't think Christian morals should be pushed on others (I wouldn't support legislation making sex before marriage illegal). But I believe certain issues go beyond Christian morals. I'm against abortion, for example, not just because of Christian morals, but because I believe in protecting all human life.

Perhaps we should ban all religious people from public office, hmmmm?
sure, but you know I think athiesm is considered a religion for legal purposes by the supreme court, and since we don't want to step on anyone's rights, then they should be considered a religion all the time right:p

Religion plays a huge part in a lot of peoples political Ideology. They are two different mechinisms that are deeply connected with eachother that its impossible to separate one from another in a free society.

Religion and politics are mixed. There may not be a state religion but getting the support of major religious groups is crucial for many politicians to get elected.

Isn't politics just a form of non-theistic religion?
Edit: And what right do you have to define or control how others form political opinions?:sniper:

Define "be a part of." Then define "religion" and "political system."


You are skirting the issue with semantics. Everybody knows what we're talking about. Don't try to confuse the issue. It is low handed!

If you want the government to represent the will of the people, I think you *must* include religious parties. But to make that work I think you need to have a many party system with coalition government - not the two-party contruction of the USA.

You need to take your US government again. We're a three party system even though it doesn't seem like it. Yeah for independants!

actually I would like to know the answers to those questions myself before I answer.

For the most part I would say no. The goverment certainly should not support one religion over another. Not simply because the US constitution has a seperation, but because I think thats the best way of preventing government from corrupting religion or religion being imposed on the people against their will.

I don't think Christian morals should be pushed on others (I wouldn't support legislation making sex before marriage illegal). But I believe certain issues go beyond Christian morals. I'm against abortion, for example, not just because of Christian morals, but because I believe in protecting all human life.

I also agree with you. With the whole same sex marraige thing, the christians and useing their religious views and forcing them on the rest of us. I don't like abortion but I don't think the government, state or federal, have the right to illegalize it.
Of course personally I blame heavy handed christans. You don't hear about buddists having huge rallies and blowing up clinics.

Surely it's perfectly fair to let a politician have, say Christian ideals, and that he/se should let the voters know that? Because it's pretty obvious that someone's religion would affect their political beliefs.

A separation of religion from state is vital for a multicultural society. Theocracies do not work - eg: Iran. When you mix religion with politics you are walking a thin line and it could very well impede on simple civil and humane rights.

Perhaps we should ban all religious people from public office, hmmmm?
It's not a ban on religious people it's a ban on putting religious doctrine into political laws. I'm Jewish but (unless you are a fellow Jew boy) you probably wouldn't like it if bacon was banned. I know farmers wouldn't like it. Let's say the Mormons were in power well I know a lot of drinkers and bar owners that wouldn't be too happy. ;)

:D Theocracy baby! :D

A separation of religion from state is vital for a multicultural society. Theocracies do not work - eg: Iran. When you mix religion with politics you are walking a thin line and it could very well impede on simple civil and humane rights.

How do you feel about provincial funding of Catholic education in my province (Ontario?). Does it impede on civil rights?

[QUOTE=Der Drache]For the most part I would say no. The goverment certainly should not support one religion over another. Not simply because the US constitution has a seperation, but because I think thats the best way of preventing government from corrupting religion or religion being imposed on the people against their will. QUOTE]
The President of the USA has an annual breakfast every year with Christian leaders from around the country. :(

How do you feel about provincial funding of Catholic education in my province (Ontario?). Does it impede on civil rights?
It's not just Ontario it's all across Canada. Personally I'm against it and think we should amend the British-North American Act in which it is written. At the time it was a good idea because of the recent English victory over the French. It helped to prevent a civil war. But in today's society, especially with the under-funding we're experiencing in public schools, it should be stopped. I'm sick of other religions trying to get in on the act as well. Oops almost didn't answer your question. It doesn't impede on civil rights but it is a waste of the moolah!!!!!

You need to take your US government again. We're a three party system even though it doesn't seem like it. Yeah for independants!

Technically you even have 50+ parties IIRC, but in practice most power is limited to the democrats and republicans. If you want to include parties based on religious views I think a minimum of 10 significant running parties, with 2 or 3 forming a coalition government are needed to preserve the freedom of religion ideal.

Just abolish both, solves all the problems right there.

Just abolish both, solves all the problems right there.

And then we die...