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Apparently Hitler hated the Jews because they brought Jesus into the world, and Hitler hated Jesus. I can only assume this is because Jesus never lost at poker and Hitler had to get his moustache cut like that after Jesus beat him three times out of five with a royal flush every time.

Copied straight out of the local paper's Letters to the Editor.

the dubious honor of killing more people belongs to atheists, who murdered 100 million people in the 20th century alone. And Hitler wasn't a Christian, he was an atheist, socialist and fascist who believed in evolution, and followed Nietzsche. He hated the Jews because they brought Jesus into the world, and hated Jesus.

America's history has been rewritten and our laws changed to remove all traces of our Judeo-Christian culture, so I'm not surprised when I read lies about Christianity. In an effort to wipe God out of our country, our schools have become God-free zones, with evolution and other doctrines of our new state religion (atheism) taking the place of the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible reading.

Other doctrines of our state religion have been forced upon us as well, abortion and euthanasia being the two most heinous, those two supposedly not being murder now. Only war-time killing and executing criminals on death row is murder according to our new doctrines.

To find out where all of this is taking us we need to study the past. Read "Nina's Journey" by Nina Markovna (the autobiography of a woman who lived in Stalin's Russia) and the books of Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Research the origins of the American Civil Liberties Union, the main instigator of our new religion, and you will discover its communist roots.

Find out just how safe a God-free country is.

Don't be hatin up in hurrrrr...

Hmm has she ever heard of Freud or is she also convinced he was somehow involved in a plot to destroy religion? Because she seriously needs therapy. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Crazy lady
the dubious honor of killing more people belongs to atheists, who murdered 100 million people in the 20th century alone. And Hitler wasn't a Christian, he was an atheist, socialist and fascist who believed in evolution, and followed Nietzsche. He hated the Jews because they brought Jesus into the world, and hated Jesus.

America's history has been rewritten and our laws changed to remove all traces of our Judeo-Christian culture, so I'm not surprised when I read lies about Christianity. In an effort to wipe God out of our country, our schools have become God-free zones, with evolution and other doctrines of our new state religion (atheism) taking the place of the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible reading.

Other doctrines of our state religion have been forced upon us as well, abortion and euthanasia being the two most heinous, those two supposedly not being murder now. Only war-time killing and executing criminals on death row is murder according to our new doctrines.

To find out where all of this is taking us we need to study the past. Read "Nina's Journey" by Nina Markovna (the autobiography of a woman who lived in Stalin's Russia) and the books of Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Research the origins of the American Civil Liberties Union, the main instigator of our new religion, and you will discover its communist roots.

Find out just how safe a God-free country is.

This proves you don't have to know anything to get printed in the paper. Hitler was a Christian, and like most Christians of the day was against Jews. This hate went back to the beginnings of Christianity. The Jews were believed to have killed Jesus. Only after the holocaust was the Christian movement shocked into support of Jews. You can't be a socialist and facsist at the same time, they are at opposite ends. Hitler was a fascist, Stalin a socialist. Evolution has nothing to do with religion.

Public Schools are owned by the state. Jesus called for a division of church and state.

Abortion and euthanasia are force on no one.

American Civil Liberties Union is the number one defender of constitutional rights, including the right to not have a clue but pretend you do.

Did God say anything about living in a safe country? You have a choice of freedom or safe. Which do you want?

Hitler was a fascist, Stalin a socialist.

they were both fascists.

they were both fascists.

Correct.

Correct.

Stop doing that.

Stop doing that.

Why? :p

Why? :p

Because I will kill you and eat your spleen. Why else? :p

Because I will kill you and eat your spleen. Why else? :p

Can I have the testicles?

Can I have the testicles?

No. They belong to him if he kills me, so there.

No. They belong to him if he kills me, so there.

I was asking Kanabia.

:rolleyes:

Can I have the testicles?

Certainly.

Don't hate all of us, just hate the ignorant ones among us. I personally am from Alabama and disagree with all of it. I hate people like that, they annoy me more than anything else, just don't generalize people because of their location.

Certainly.

Exellent.

*gets out salt and pepper*

Certainly.

*kicks*

I love it when we make threads go off-topic.

"The dubious honor of killing more people belongs to Dean Koontz fans, who murdered 100 million people in the 20th century alone. And Hitler wasn't a Dean Koontz fan, he was an Anne Rice fan, socialist and fascist who believed in pilates, and followed Oprah's advice on nutrition. He hated the All Beef Hotdogs, because they brought gassy-ness into the world, and hated post-cards with pictures of old people and funny captions.

America's history has been rewritten and our laws changed to remove all traces of our Dean Koontz fan club, so I'm not surprised when I read lies about his latest novel. In an effort to wipe Dean Koontz out of our country, our schools have become horror-fiction-free zones, with period literature and other doctrines of our new state religion (snake-handling) taking the place of the Ten Gallon Hat, chanting the lyrics of Styx songs, and beer-can reading.

Other doctrines of our state religion have been forced upon us as well, kanji tattoos and Atkins diets being the two most heinous, those two supposedly not being murder now. Only war-time breakdancing and executing corrupt C++ files on skid row is murder according to our new doctrines.

To find out where all of this is taking us we need to study the past. Read "Preacher" by Garth Ennis (the autobiography of a man who seeks God in the American West, but only to yell at him) and the books of Isaac Asimov. Research the origins of the American Association of Peanut Growers, the main instigator of our new religion, and you will discover its communist roots.

Find out just how safe a sodium-free country is. "



And it still makes the same amount of sense.

they were both fascists.


Hitler was a fascist. Stalin was a "Communist". both were totalitarians and had alot of simularities in their systems, but were not the same. Hitler's party was called the "National Socialists" but it was quite different from socialism. Stalin was called socialist and communist, but his kind of socialism is now relegated to the term "Stalinism"

Hitler was a fascist. Stalin was a "Communist". both were totalitarians and had alot of simularities in their systems, but were not the same. Hitler's party was called the "National Socialists" but it was quite different from socialism. Stalin was called socialist and communist, but his kind of socialism is now relegated to the term "Stalinism"

lol. You presume to teach me politics, young one?

Guiding ideology aside, the technical similarities qualify Stalinism as fascism. He (as well as Trotsky and Lenin) butchered the ideology and betrayed the working class.

"The dubious honor of killing more people belongs to Dean Koontz fans, who murdered 100 million people in the 20th century alone. And Hitler wasn't a Dean Koontz fan, he was an Anne Rice fan, socialist and fascist who believed in pilates, and followed Oprah's advice on nutrition. He hated the All Beef Hotdogs, because they brought gassy-ness into the world, and hated post-cards with pictures of old people and funny captions.

America's history has been rewritten and our laws changed to remove all traces of our Dean Koontz fan club, so I'm not surprised when I read lies about his latest novel. In an effort to wipe Dean Koontz out of our country, our schools have become horror-fiction-free zones, with period literature and other doctrines of our new state religion (snake-handling) taking the place of the Ten Gallon Hat, chanting the lyrics of Styx songs, and beer-can reading.

Other doctrines of our state religion have been forced upon us as well, kanji tattoos and Atkins diets being the two most heinous, those two supposedly not being murder now. Only war-time breakdancing and executing corrupt C++ files on skid row is murder according to our new doctrines.

To find out where all of this is taking us we need to study the past. Read "Preacher" by Garth Ennis (the autobiography of a man who seeks God in the American West, but only to yell at him) and the books of Isaac Asimov. Research the origins of the American Association of Peanut Growers, the main instigator of our new religion, and you will discover its communist roots.

Find out just how safe a sodium-free country is. "



And it still makes the same amount of sense.Strangely, it might even make a little more sense than the original...

I dunno, just basic philosophy aside, the method of control is entirely different. There is no governement in history that can actually be equally compared with Hitler's Germany, they're very different. and when it comes down to it, there are only a few examples of fascism in history and only one example of stalinism. I don't think that there's any true definition of fascism outside of examples. Hitler's Germany was run alot differently than even Franco's and Moussilini's governments.

wait a sec... I thought Hitler hated the Jew's

because during his youth, he got punked by this one jewish teacher.

wait a sec... I thought Hitler hated the Jew's

because during his youth, he got punked by this one jewish teacher.


I actually believe he hated Jews because it was popular sentiment at the time and he grew up believing it.

I actually believe he hated Jews because it was popular sentiment at the time and he grew up believing it.
I thought Hitler hated the Jews because he could never get any jewish poon?

I don't think that there's any true definition of fascism outside of examples.

Which makes it all the more easy for me to label the USSR as fascist. :p

I thought Hitler hated the Jews because he could never get any jewish poon?


I second that....LMAO

Which makes it all the more easy for me to label the USSR as fascist. :p

but that would bugger up my nomenclature system. I feel that Moussilini and Hitler were as different as Stalin and Hitler, and therefore it doesn't really matter. Fascism is a term for those who followed a certain movement at a certain time. Hitler's version, Franco's, and Moussilini's versions were very different, but were all allied and shared alot of charichteristics. Stalin shared alot too, but he wasn't associated with the movement. :fluffle: His way of governing was different, and philosophies were different. Just now-a-days Fascism has become a generic term for totalitarianism, or just anything that people don't agree with.

I thought Hitler hated the Jews because he could never get any jewish poon?

Everyone loves jewish poon... I can see why he was frusterated.

but that would bugger up my nomenclature system. I feel that Moussilini and Hitler were as different as Stalin and Hitler, and therefore it doesn't really matter. Fascism is a term for those who followed a certain movement at a certain time. Hitler's version, Franco's, and Moussilini's versions were very different, but were all allied and shared alot of charichteristics. Stalin shared alot too, but he wasn't associated with the movement. :fluffle: His way of governing was different, and philosophies were different. Just now-a-days Fascism has become a generic term for totalitarianism, or just anything that people don't agree with.
See, I don't think the philosophy itself is a defining factor in what can and cannot be called fascism. Is anyone fooled by the fact that North Korea calls itself a "Democratic people's republic"? Fascism could be guided by religious dogma, just as much as staunch nationalism. In Stalin's case, he twisted Marxism to suit a fascist slant, just as how the Nazi's misinterpreted Nietszche. Totalitarianism is fascism...or at least any totalitarianism which prides itself on military force and enforced social cohesion. I can't think of any examples that don't.

See, I don't think the philosophy itself is a defining factor in what can and cannot be called fascism. Is anyone fooled by the fact that North Korea calls itself a "Democratic people's republic"? Fascism could be guided by religious dogma, just as much as staunch nationalism. In Stalin's case, he twisted Marxism to suit a fascist slant, just as how the Nazi's misinterpreted Nietszche. Totalitarianism is fascism...or at least any totalitarianism which prides itself on military force and enforced social cohesion. I can't think of any examples that don't.

I guess I think of Fascist as a term more like that of a movement, maybe a time perioid, not like a cannonical gove:confused: rnment type. Kim Jong Il isn't the same as Hitler or Stalin, and classifying him likt that seems like making an assumption about his belifs. They are all totalitarians, Il pretends to be a communist just like stalin, but they aren't the same. The governements are different in many ways and their actions are too.

I guess I think of Fascist as a term more like that of a movement, maybe a time perioid, not like a cannonical gove:confused: rnment type. Kim Jong Il isn't the same as Hitler or Stalin, and classifying him likt that seems like making an assumption about his belifs. They are all totalitarians, Il pretends to be a communist just like stalin, but they aren't the same. The governements are different in many ways and their actions are too.

Meh. Same shit, different smell, as we say.

Meh. Same shit, different smell, as we say.

Well they're all bad.. They're not the same, and a classification system that puts everyone who isn't a democracy or pure socialism into one group isn't v:fluffle:ery accurate. But I agree, they all suck.

I guess I just don't like how Fascism is used to describe every governement people don't like now a days. It's used to describe US politicians when someone thinks they're too right-wing, but I just feel it's used gratuitiously.:fluffle:

I guess I just don't like how Fascism is used to describe every governement people don't like now a days. It's used to describe US politicians when someone thinks they're too right-wing, but I just feel it's used gratuitiously.:fluffle:
Yes; it is, though I feel that the USSR has a special entitlement to the classification. I wouldn't label any US politicians fascist. (well, there's probably one or two deserving of the title, but whatever)

My understanding of the various terms is as follows:

Fascism: Conservative authoritarianism, usually with some nationalist elements. The government maintains rigid controls on the people and squishes consent, but isn't as bad as National Socialism. Generally involves an idealization of The Leader. Industries have some control of the state, with the government favoring some over the others. Examples: Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy, a few Japanese regimes (there were rather a lot of changes in the Japanese government before and during WWII).

National Socialism: Despite the name, Nazism isn't 'socialist' at all- that was meant to make the party appealing to German workers. Nazism is basically a much more extreme version of fascism- industries have much more influence, the government maintains much stricter control over the populace, and propaganda all focuses on glorifying The Leader's struggle against the Hated Enemy. Pure madness, by any reasonable standards. Examples: Hitler's Germany.

Socialism: A catchall term referring to any political movement that favors the poor over the rich and that advocates the dissolution of capitalist economics in favor of a planned economy. This varies from social democrats, such as those that have been influential thorughout Europe- especially Scandinavia- to the harshest of authoritarian regimes.

Communism: An offshoot of Socialism based on Marxism. Communism, or Bolshevism, calls for the creation of the inevitable workers' paradise through bloody revolution; unlike Marxism, Communism assumes that this is possible in a state that hasn't become industrialized, like Russia. Communism also calls for a 'dictatorship of the proletariat' in the ensuing socialist state; in practice, this turned out to be a dictatorship of the Party. Examples: Pre- and post-Stalin USSR

Stalinism: Extreme authoritarian socialism. A Stalinist regime retains tremendous power over the populace, stamping out dissent (real or imagined), and shipping people wherever the government wants. Propaganda is intended entirely to glorify the Party, Marx, Lenin, and the General Secretary. The economy is completely controlled by the government and centrally planned from the capital; gross ineffeciency results. Enemies of the state are not any one group- they're everyone. An all-around unpleasant place to live. Examples: Stalin's USSR, Mao's China.

This isweird because the Stupid Dumbarsed Liberal in the local Paper was ranting on how Hitler was Catholic.

Socialism: A catchall term referring to any political movement that favors the poor over the rich and that advocates the dissolution of capitalist economics in favor of a planned economy. This varies from social democrats, such as those that have been influential thorughout Europe- especially Scandinavia- to the harshest of authoritarian regimes.

Not necessarily a centrally planned economy. That would ignore leftist movements that have arisen in the past, such as Spanish Syndicalism. It can also encompass other forms of collective ownership.

Communism: An offshoot of Socialism based on Marxism. Communism, or Bolshevism, calls for the creation of the inevitable workers' paradise through bloody revolution;

Not necessarily; that's a political movement, whereas communism is an economic philosophy. There are communists that advocate a pacifist approach to overthrow of the present regime.

unlike Marxism, Communism assumes that this is possible in a state that hasn't become industrialized, like Russia.

Not communism necessarily, but Leninism.

Communism also calls for a 'dictatorship of the proletariat' in the ensuing socialist state; in practice, this turned out to be a dictatorship of the Party.

Marxism, not all communism. :)

Stalinism: Extreme authoritarian socialism. A Stalinist regime retains tremendous power over the populace, stamping out dissent (real or imagined), and shipping people wherever the government wants. Propaganda is intended entirely to glorify the Party, Marx, Lenin, and the General Secretary.

Yes, pretty much, though from my viewpoint: as the workers have zero control, it cannot be called socialism.

The economy is completely controlled by the government and centrally planned from the capital; gross ineffeciency results.

Hm; not really. Russia industrialised from a backwater peasant state to an economic superpower in a mere 10 years. I would hardly call it inefficient at that stage. It stagnated later, but that could be blamed on other factors as well, just as much as the bureaucracy. (arms race, war in afghanistan, unhappy populace and so on)

Enemies of the state are not any one group- they're everyone. An all-around unpleasant place to live. Examples: Stalin's USSR, Mao's China.

Can't argue with that.

Everyone loves jewish poon... I can see why he was frusterated.

If Hitler had a Kosher Dill, maybe he would have gotten some Jewish Poon.

If Hitler had a Kosher Dill, maybe he would have gotten some Jewish Poon.

I will change my worldview, belief system, and personal hygiene in accordance with that statement.

Communism, or Bolshevism

OK, that just took out your whole point.

The Bolsheviks were Leninist and thought they could skip the Capitalist stage.

The Mensheviks were far closer to Marx's blueprint but Lenin killed them all or they defected to his side after the revolution.

Which makes it all the more easy for me to label the USSR as fascist. :p

Not all the USSR history was like Stalin although they we're not angels at all.

If Hitler had a Kosher Dill, maybe he would have gotten some Jewish Poon.


What's a jewish poon?
What's a poon?
What's a Dill? (Kosher, that I know)

What's a jewish poon?
What's a poon?
What's a Dill? (Kosher, that I know)

Dude, I hope you're kidding.

lol. You presume to teach me politics, young one?

Guiding ideology aside, the technical similarities qualify Stalinism as fascism. He (as well as Trotsky and Lenin) butchered the ideology and betrayed the working class.

Lenin was a benevolent dictator. He actually improved the lives of his people. He wasn't interested in his own power, but in the improvement of the nation. The problem with benebolent dictators is there is no good way to replace them when they are gone. Leaders who really care about the people are few and far between.

This isweird because the Stupid Dumbarsed Liberal in the local Paper was ranting on how Hitler was Catholic.
He was - not for very long but he was, or are you going to argue Catholics arn't Christian? :rolleyes: