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Last night i was involved in a drunken brawl..No i wasn't drunk..but i beat the crap out of a guy :D..He is on the football team here...it was great fun...Well anyways.. i was wanting to hear some good fight stories(physical fights)

I kicked some guy ass a few months ago. I put him in a wheelchair, I beat him so bad.

Or was he in the wheelchair before...?

I kicked some guy ass a few months ago. I put him in a wheelchair, I beat him so bad.

Or was he in the wheelchair before...?


lol...well this guy i got..he pinned my friend down while some otrher guy hit him like 25 times in the face..so i had to jump in & get some...it ended up that the two drunk guys were arrested on felony charges...also for illegal consumption(underage drinking)

I got punched in the nose. Blood all over the place. :)

me and my friends get jumped by a group of skinheads comming home from a show. I broke one of their arms, and bashed this other guy's face pretty good. We escaped to a metro station.

Last night i was involved in a drunken brawl..No i wasn't drunk..but i beat the crap out of a guy :D..He is on the football team here...it was great fun...Well anyways.. i was wanting to hear some good fight stories(physical fights)
Oh my little Zilam is growing up.
*Hides Tears of Pride*

Didn't you make a bunch of threads on christianity talking about how you became christian or something to that effect or was that someone else?

Some dude stole a bottle of wine from my house that my grandma bought for my mom before she passed away, so I found him, and fractured his skull by punching him in the head. While he was in the hospital, I went and found his brother (who was looking for me because of it) and DDT'd him on the sidewalk, fracturing his skull too.

They never stole from me again. ;)

Some dude stole a bottle of wine from my house that my grandma bought for my mom before she passed away, so I found him, and fractured his skull by punching him in the head. While he was in the hospital, I went and found his brother (who was looking for me because of it) and DDT'd him on the sidewalk, fracturing his skull too.

They never stole from me again. ;)

*thumbs up*

Some dude stole a bottle of wine from my house that my grandma bought for my mom before she passed away, so I found him, and fractured his skull by punching him in the head. While he was in the hospital, I went and found his brother (who was looking for me because of it) and DDT'd him on the sidewalk, fracturing his skull too.

They never stole from me again. ;)
LOL you idiot what are you 14?
DDT.:rolleyes:

LOL you idiot what are you 14?
DDT.:rolleyes:
Ever been DDT'd on pavement? I assure you, it isn't childs play. Makes a hell of a sound. Besides, when I hit him the first time, he kinda fell into me. It was RIGHT THERE! So I took the opportunity to introduce him to the famous "Jake the Snake" move.


BTW, call me idiot to my face, if you want to learn a suplex. ;)

"You know, they say never hit a man with a closed fist, but it is, on occasion, halarious."

"You know, they say never hit a man with a closed fist, but it is, on occasion, halarious."
Why not?

Ever been DDT'd on pavement? I assure you, it isn't childs play. Makes a hell of a sound. Besides, when I hit him the first time, he kinda fell into me. It was RIGHT THERE! So I took the opportunity to introduce him to the famous "Jake the Snake" move.


BTW, call me idiot to my face, if you want to learn a suplex. ;)
Better i'll give you a sharp pointed rock to the head.
Wrestling moves are not cool to use on a hard surface.

Better i'll give you a sharp pointed rock to the head.
Wrestling moves are not cool to use on a hard surface.
Do you have some kind of a freaking point, dude?

There I was, surrounded by men in white suits and white helmets. They raised their guns... I raised my lightsaber.

Oh wait. Never mind.

Do you have some kind of a freaking point, dude?

Must you ask questions you already know the answer to?

Must you ask questions you already know the answer to?
If I knew the damn answer, I wouldn't ask the question. I was taught never to assume! ;)

Does ending up using a pistol count? :mp5:

I kicked some guy ass a few months ago. I put him in a wheelchair, I beat him so bad.

Or was he in the wheelchair before...?


you would beat up a cripple... shame on you

you would beat up a cripple... shame on you

Aye, no need to beat them, just tip the chair and call it good:p

Does ending up using a pistol count? :mp5:
No...

That would be murder, not fighting.

Why not?

It's a quote from a TV show, after the character gets into a bar brawl.

The fist isn't really as an effective weapon as other parts of the body for an attack. It spreads the force to far, you can damage yourself easily, and it's all fleshy. The elbow, knee, or a chop with a rigid hand (if done correctly) will deliver much more concentrated force, with less of a risk of you breking something.

No...

That would be murder, not fighting.


Depends on where you shoot them, I didn't kill him... :mp5:

It's a quote from a TV show, after the character gets into a bar brawl.

The fist isn't really as an effective weapon as other parts of the body for an attack. It spreads the force to far, you can damage yourself easily, and it's all fleshy. The elbow, knee, or a chop with a rigid hand (if done correctly) will deliver much more concentrated force, with less of a risk of you breking something.
Try telling Bruce Lee (http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/8669/stblast.htm)that!

Or Chuck Liddell!

http://www.zengrappling.com/47%20Ortiz%2013.jpeg

It's a quote from a TV show, after the character gets into a bar brawl.

The fist isn't really as an effective weapon as other parts of the body for an attack. It spreads the force to far, you can damage yourself easily, and it's all fleshy. The elbow, knee, or a chop with a rigid hand (if done correctly) will deliver much more concentrated force, with less of a risk of you breking something.


Bullet to the knees works well too.

Depends on where you shoot them, I didn't kill him... :mp5:

NS General Rule #1:

Do not use gun smilies under any circumstance.

Do you have some kind of a freaking point, dude?
Wrestling moves are not cool when used on a hard surface.
Was it that obvious that you missed it?

NS General Rule #1:

Do not use gun smilies under any circumstance.

Sorry, this is my 7th post. Forgive my ignorance but, why not?

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

that's why their wearing gloves. It's mostly to protect the puncher's hand and knuckles.

Bruce Lee kicks so much ass, I'm surprised the universe didn't collapse on it's self from the awesome.

Sorry, this is my 7th post. Forgive my ignorance but, why not?

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

Because it gives a bad impression, and no one will ever take a post seriously if it has gun smilies in it.

Wrestling moves are not cool when used on a hard surface.
Was it that obvious that you missed it?
Not cool HOW? Like not fair? Like against the rules of fighting? Not cool as in it makes you look "not cool"? Not cool as in it doesn't work?

At least be specific! :rolleyes:

Try telling Bruce Lee (http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/8669/stblast.htm)that!

Or Chuck Liddell!

Pffft! Try Fedor Emelianko (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4609381522811996320)

Bullet to the knees works well too.

I don't carry a gun, I rely on my own body to defend myself. I also carry an extebdible police batton most of the time.

that's why their wearing gloves. It's mostly to protect the puncher's hand and knuckles.

Bruce Lee kicks so much ass, I'm surprised the universe didn't collapse on it's self from the awesome.
Yeah, it hurts your hands, but when your in a fight, the only thing you are thinking about is knocking the other dude out. And unless you ARE Bruce Lee, punching them is pretty much the best way. Or a DDT on the sidewalk. ;)

that's why their wearing gloves. It's mostly to protect the puncher's hand and knuckles.

Bruce Lee kicks so much ass, I'm surprised the universe didn't collapse on it's self from the awesome.

Wouldn't the universe explode from the awesome? Not Implode? Implode implies a lack [of awesome]...:rolleyes:

Ok well after a school rugby match the members of the losing team started bitching and complaining, you could tell they were really pissed off, and one of them comes up to me and asks if I thanked the ref for playing on our side. I laughed at the guy and walked off to a mate (billy) and told him what happened. When the guy who had made the comment walked past billy said to him "We dont need to cheat when were playing people that play like you guys". Needless to say the guy wasnt impressed by these comments so he drops his gear and and starts comming our way, his mum close behind, while we walk away. When the guy gets here he grabs my mate swings him around and punches him in the face. Now my friend is a tough guy and can hold his own so I stand back and wait to hold off any of the guy's mates incase they get any ideas about jumping in. Then out of the blue the guy's mum walks up behind my mate and grabs him from behind so he cant hit back while telling her son to "kill the wanker". It is at this point I come down and crack the guy myself, this he wasnt expecting and so he stumbles back and billy manages to struggle free from the mum who then begins to claw at him with her nails. Seeing this billy's foster mother comes down and lands an impressive blow on the guys mum's face. By this time I had laid a couple more hits on the wanker who started it all and billy had started on one of his mates who came over. Me and Billy were eventually dragged out by four or five spectators and held back to 'cool off'. During this cooling off periosd we realised what we had started as both rugby teams and most of the parents were now involved in a huge riot. Some of the most notiable things i saw at this point were:
1. a 4 foot 9 guy from our school leve a 6 foot guy with one jumping punch
2. the wanker who started it puking his guts out
3. billys foster mum flooring the guys mum
4. my personal favourite the principle taking on a couple of the other teams parents.

Yeah, it hurts your hands, but when your in a fight, the only thing you are thinking about is knocking the other dude out. And unless you ARE Bruce Lee, punching them is pretty much the best way. Or a DDT on the sidewalk. ;)

There's a nazi out there found out just how effective open-handed chops and knee strike are ::ninja smily:: Then again, catch someone with a uppercut or hook right across the jaw, they're done. Again, worked on the Nazi.

I'm still in awe you acully used a wrestling move in a street fight. Could have fucked up the dude's neck with that one.

*snip*

British sport riots. How quaint.

Because it gives a bad impression, and no one will ever take a post seriously if it has gun smilies in it.

Hmm....:Note the brushing off:

Wouldn't the universe explode from the awesome? Not Implode? Implode implies a lack [of awesome]...:rolleyes:

Dude, the sheer desity of awesome concentrated on one point like that would create a black hole of awesome, thus sucking in and crushing all around it.

There's a nazi out there found out just how effective open-handed chops and knee strike are ::ninja smily:: Then again, catch someone with a uppercut or hook right across the jaw, they're done. Again, worked on the Nazi.

I'm still in awe you acully used a wrestling move in a street fight. Could have fucked up the dude's neck with that one.
That's why I HATE to fight. When I fight, I don't play by rules, or hold back. I have a friend who got really fucked up for not fighting back hard enough (doesn't talk very well any more :( ). So when I DDT'd the dude, I was lookin to hurt him bad. And BTW, check out what a DDT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_throws#DDT) is. I did it on cement. I wouldn't be worried about his neck!

Not cool HOW? Like not fair? Like against the rules of fighting? Not cool as in it makes you look "not cool"? Not cool as in it doesn't work?

At least be specific! :rolleyes:
Because it makes you look like an uncooth Moron that lives at home with your Mom at the age of 34 whos chief enjoyment is jacking off to pictures of Baby Goats being jack-Knifed by http://ogonbat.brinkster.net/arkiv_farrah-poster.jpg while covered in Green Oatmeal.

Besides that its just plain Dangerous.
Excessivly Dangerous and if you were to do it at least wait till someone trys it on you first.

In my experiences only Bully's have used Wrestling moves in fights.

Use The Fists .

I was walking up this street with my girlfreind, we're having a good time and whatnot. We're going to this little 'mom&pop shop' sh has been telling me about. We get halfway up the block, across the street from us is this bar, bunch of drunk biker guys full of krank just looking for a fight.

Now, at the time I wasn't as tall as I am now. I wasn't short, but not tall either. We're passing this bar and I took note of the crowd hanging out there and switched places with her putting myself closer to them, no REAL reason other than trying to look like a gentleman. One of these guys sees me do this and takes it offensively. Hard liquor seems to have that effect.

He comes up to me and starts muttering incoherantly about me being a jackass for not letting him stare at her. He continues on and starts pushing me a bit. Now I take this as a big problem; this guy is at least 3 times a big as I am. My dad tuaght me, "When you know a fight is coming, get the first punch." I knew this guy wasn't going to let go, so I punched him pretty hard in the nose. He fell back, looked stunned for a sec, then looked at me like satan had possed him. He gets up and gives me an uppercut to the stomach. I went flying backward into the building behind me, knocks the wind out of me.

I get back up and see him coming at me. At this point I'm thinking my life is in danger. He keeps coming at me so I get up on my knees and draw out my pistol. I shot him once in the left knee and he went down needless to say. His friends come over to him as he's yelling on the ground and pointing at me. So I tell her we should leave before they catch on and bad things ensue.

Kind of an anticlimatic ending I know, but I thought it was worht mentioning.

RANT from someone who has obviously never been in a real fight
Listen, you have obviously never been in a fight more serious than a third grade bitch fight. So I'll will break this to you gently. When someone is fighting you, it means they want to hurt you. BAD! And if they manage to get you on the ground, they will sometimes kick you in the face. When I fight, I don't fight so people think I "look cool." I fight to win.

So if I have to rip a dudes leg out of its hip socket, or snap his arm at the elbow, or break his jaw, or DDT him on the cement, in order to insure that the fight ends with me standing, then that is what I do! Got it?

Like I said, you've obviously never been in a fight with a dude that would snap your neck if you gave him an opportunity. Welcome to the real world!

That's why I HATE to fight. When I fight, I don't play by rules, or hold back. I have a friend who got really fucked up for not fighting back hard enough (doesn't talk very well any more :( ). So when I DDT'd the dude, I was lookin to hurt him bad. And BTW, check out what a DDT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_throws#DDT) is. I did it on cement. I wouldn't be worried about his neck!

I know what a DDT is, the impact goes into the head and through the neck. Any time you land on your head, your neck is also at risk, for the most part.

The rest of what you said, spot on. Fights are dirty dirty affairs. I have only been in one real street fight, and my aim was really more to hurt the guys bad enough that me and my friends could get away without them harassing us. But many times you can't afford to do the other guy any favors by trying not to hurt them, they won't show you the same regard.

I felt bad about how bad I hurt the guys, but at the same time I'd feel pretty bad if they'd hurt me and my friends that bad or worse.

The rest of what you said, spot on. Fights are dirty dirty affairs. I have only been in one real street fight, and my aim was really more to hurt the guys bad enough that me and my friends could get away without them harassing us. But many times you can't afford to do the other guy any favors by trying not to hurt them, they won't show you the same regard.

I felt bad about how bad I hurt the guys, but at the same time I'd feel pretty bad if they'd hurt me and my friends that bad or worse.
Everything I highlighted sums up my point quite nicely! Thanks! And let me reiterate this. I DO NOT LIKE TO FIGHT! One of the only things I hate more is losing a fight!

British sport riots. How quaint.
Im from New Zealand im no fucking brit.

British sport riots. How quaint.

You do realise as a result of quaint british sport riots, hundruds of people have died?

What the hell is DDT? One of my "friends" used to call himself that. He as annoying as hell.

Do me a favor?

Resolve this:


Last night i was involved in a drunken brawl..No i wasn't drunk..but i beat the crap out of a guy :D..He is on the football team here...it was great fun...Well anyways.. i was wanting to hear some good fight stories(physical fights)


With this:

"I love Jesus...and I'm Liberal...some people still find that shocking and blasphemous.. I see it as being just like Jesus"-Me

Didn't you know? Jesus got into tons of baroom fights in his time like when he trashed the temple

Ok well after a school rugby match the members of the losing team started bitching and complaining, you could tell they were really pissed off, and one of them comes up to me and asks if I thanked the ref for playing on our side. I laughed at the guy and walked off to a mate (billy) and told him what happened. When the guy who had made the comment walked past billy said to him "We dont need to cheat when were playing people that play like you guys". Needless to say the guy wasnt impressed by these comments so he drops his gear and and starts comming our way, his mum close behind, while we walk away. When the guy gets here he grabs my mate swings him around and punches him in the face. Now my friend is a tough guy and can hold his own so I stand back and wait to hold off any of the guy's mates incase they get any ideas about jumping in. Then out of the blue the guy's mum walks up behind my mate and grabs him from behind so he cant hit back while telling her son to "kill the wanker". It is at this point I come down and crack the guy myself, this he wasnt expecting and so he stumbles back and billy manages to struggle free from the mum who then begins to claw at him with her nails. Seeing this billy's foster mother comes down and lands an impressive blow on the guys mum's face. By this time I had laid a couple more hits on the wanker who started it all and billy had started on one of his mates who came over. Me and Billy were eventually dragged out by four or five spectators and held back to 'cool off'. During this cooling off periosd we realised what we had started as both rugby teams and most of the parents were now involved in a huge riot. Some of the most notiable things i saw at this point were:
1. a 4 foot 9 guy from our school leve a 6 foot guy with one jumping punch
2. the wanker who started it puking his guts out
3. billys foster mum flooring the guys mum
4. my personal favourite the principle taking on a couple of the other teams parents.
That is fucking awesome. What a bitch that kid's mother was.

That is fucking awesome. What a bitch that kid's mother was.

I know, thats a great story. Musta been awesome to see her get seven colours of shit kicked outta her.

I've only ever been in one decent fight. And it was only kinda decent at that.

I was only prolly like 13 or 14 and was up at the local park, sledding with some friends. There were a gang of boys, a couple years older than we were, and the guy who seemed to be the ring-leader decided that we weren't allowed in "his" park. We refused to leave. So he stole my sled, and ended up breaking it (although it was fixable). And then when I told him to give it back, he decided to beat me up. I'm not sure how it was going to help him be a cooler guy in his friends' eyes to beat up a girl smaller and younger than he, but whatever. I guess bullies are like that. Pick on people they think they can beat. I told him it was a bad idea and I didn't want to fight him, becuase I didn't want to hurt him, but I wasn't leaving without my sled. Heh. Of course, saying it was a bad idea and I didn't want to fight and hurt him only made him want to beat me up more. So I took off my gloves, and stood there and waited for him. He did the idiot-wind-up thing, and came after me swinging punches like a man... er, boy possessed. I'm not exactly sure what HE thought was going to happen, but I blocked the one punch that could've actually hit me, punched him just once and broke his nose.

Then I went, got my sled, and we left to go get cocoa. A few of the guy kinda halfheartedly chased after us, but I think they were more concerned with getting the kid to stop bleeding on the snow and get home. They yelled after me that they were going to get their dads to come beat me up. :rolleyes: I laughed at them, and told them where they could find me. They never showed.

I met the kid again a while later, and he was... very polite and almost friendly. He didn't exactly apologize, but neither did I. He said his dad had given it to him pretty bad for getting beat up by a girl. Maybe he learned his lesson.

I've only ever been in one decent fight. And it was only kinda decent at that.

I was only prolly like 13 or 14 and was up at the local park, sledding with some friends. There were a gang of boys, a couple years older than we were, and the guy who seemed to be the ring-leader decided that we weren't allowed in "his" park. We refused to leave. So he stole my sled, and ended up breaking it (although it was fixable). And then when I told him to give it back, he decided to beat me up. I'm not sure how it was going to help him be a cooler guy in his friends' eyes to beat up a girl smaller and younger than he, but whatever. I guess bullies are like that. Pick on people they think they can beat. I told him it was a bad idea and I didn't want to fight him, becuase I didn't want to hurt him, but I wasn't leaving without my sled. Heh. Of course, saying it was a bad idea and I didn't want to fight and hurt him only made him want to beat me up more. So I took off my gloves, and stood there and waited for him. He did the idiot-wind-up thing, and came after me swinging punches like a man... er, boy possessed. I'm not exactly sure what HE thought was going to happen, but I blocked the one punch that could've actually hit me, punched him just once and broke his nose.

Then I went, got my sled, and we left to go get cocoa. A few of the guy kinda halfheartedly chased after us, but I think they were more concerned with getting the kid to stop bleeding on the snow and get home. They yelled after me that they were going to get their dads to come beat me up. :rolleyes: I laughed at them, and told them where they could find me. They never showed.

I met the kid again a while later, and he was... very polite and almost friendly. He didn't exactly apologize, but neither did I. He said his dad had given it to him pretty bad for getting beat up by a girl. Maybe he learned his lesson.
Awesome :D You do martial arts if I remember correctly, right?

Didn't you make a bunch of threads on christianity talking about how you became christian or something to that effect or was that someone else?


Hey I never said I was perfect.. And note..I wasn't drunk...but i was helping a buddy....

Oh my little Zilam is growing up.
*Hides Tears of Pride*


-feels like a big boy- :D

Didn't you know? Jesus got into tons of baroom fights in his time like when he trashed the temple

It is a little know fact that Jesus of Nazareth was an accomplished martial artist of the highest degree. In his late teens, he was viciously thrashed by several Roman soldiers, then got beat up by a pack of Zealots for losing to Romans. He rose from bloody mud determined to never lose a fight again...

Turning his face to the harsh sun, he traveled east (and North) to India, where he learned the wrestling style of the Hindu nobility. When he had mastered their techniques, he continued further, into China, wherein he learned the 78 animal styles of the Lohan masters, and also dated this girl named Helen Wong, but it didn't work out, so he continued on...

Finally, among the ancient Ainu people of the island that would become Japan, he learned the final, ultimate technique, which he melded with his own divine nature to create the art form, "messiah-fu, electric boogaloo".

Thus, it was all the more poignant when Christ allowed himself to be taken and killed, because he could have wrecked all their shit up.

I don't get fighting...
Although drunken play-fighting is fun. I've done a lot of that. We stole a guys pants. And I was um... groped by a friend... And I thought she was straight! :eek:

Awesome :D You do martial arts if I remember correctly, right?

Yes indeed. Good memory. I started when I was 8, so by that time, I had a black belt in one, well sort of two styles, and was somewhere in the middle of getting a black belt in another style.

Yes indeed. Good memory. I started when I was 8, so by that time, I had a black belt in one, well sort of two styles, and was somewhere in the middle of getting a black belt in another style.
Which ones do you follow? I am trying to get into Wing Chun, and I'm thinking of combining it with Aikido and the Krav Maga later.

Last night i was involved in a drunken brawl..No i wasn't drunk..but i beat the crap out of a guy :D..He is on the football team here...it was great fun...Well anyways.. i was wanting to hear some good fight stories(physical fights)

Zilam, I have to come down on you for this post. I don't care how strong the other guy was or if he was on the football team. Violence is not cool.

Was this in self defense or in defense of someone else? Those are the only two situations where I wouldn't have a problem with it. And even in those situations I don't think it is anything to brag about. Beating someone up may in rare situations might be necessary, but you shouldn't be happy about doing it.

never been in a fight myself, and i don't really ever intend to get in one unless i have to.

sometimes that fact makes me worry whether i'd be able to hold my own. then i remember that i can hold my own against my friend who's a black belt in jujitsu (sometimes bulk is a real advantage :D), so i should think i'll be ok :)
(then again he does go easy on me, of course, but meh...)

people just don't seem to start fights with me. been in numerous tense situations but the other people tend to back down (again, bulk has its advantage :p)

Which ones do you follow? I am trying to get into Wing Chun, and I'm thinking of combining it with Aikido and the Krav Maga later.

Well ... *takes a deep breath*

My first school taught a style made up by the head instructor there, which he called Jubushikido, and also taught Shotokan.
My second school taught a form of Tae Kwon Do again styled by the instructor, but much better done and closer to other people's arts than the first.
My third school was Tang Soo Do, but we also did Akijiujitzu, which is a small circle jiujitzu, but tends to look more to the lethal combat type end of things.
My fourth and current school is also Tang Soo Do with a side of Hapkido.

I'd love some day to get into a pureish form of Aikido, but I'm not willing to put up with the BS about chi flow and random eastern mysticism which usually go along with it. I've also considered opening my own school. In fact, we had our Christmas Party yesterday, and the master guy in charge of the guy who's the instructor at the school where I go was giving me a hard time, and saying I should get into his testing cycle, and open my own school, presumably under his name like all the other instructors there. But his testing cycles would require me to waste time training in things I don't want to learn (think nunchuku (spelling?) and stupid self-defense techniques which don't work right and are totally counter-intuitive) and costs money I don't have to spend on it. Plus, the guy doesn't even remember from one year to the next what rank I am, or my first name, or anything. Basically, in my experience, he's a jerk who couldn't care less about me, so why the heck would I want to test under him, much less get rank under him. Geez. But I smiled and said appropriate polite things that did not include "ok, I'll do that". He said he'd convince me, but I doubt it. I like the instructor at my local school, but he's almost the same rank as I am, and I've been in it a long time, so I don't really learn much from him. I just learn much by teaching. Plus, they're into weird diet-changing where you can't eat all sorts of things I like, and other nutso stuff. Anyone who's read this far gets a gold star. And I should probably just quit because now I'm just ranting. Anyway, I'm thinking about moving on to another school or style or something, and it's kind of up for grabs what. I'm not sure I'm up for Krav Maga or whatever else, though, but I don't really know much about them.

Wow, rather fascinating :) Good luck with opening a school. You are right not to put up with nonsense from people. Avoid inefficient techniques at all costs. Sometimes some martial arts focus too much on tradition rather than what works in them.

Aikido is based on ki, ie focus (same as chi). Its technique really, and it means keeping your mind and body focused and one at the same time. It has a spiritual dimension (chinese magic systems are even based on it), but in the context of martial arts its basically overcoming strength via focus and mental alertness. In other words, technique (that eventually becomes intuitive). The most effective martial arts are based on this premise. Naturally, by training in Aikido your body is also conditioned.

Ki/Chi in the wider context are amazing. Don't be so quick to dismiss them. :) Through related techniques, some practitioners have been able to live very long, very healthy lives, without their bodies and minds decaying the way most tend to.

The Krav Maga is a jewish martial art, formed by a mixture of existing martial arts, as well as elements of its own. It also focuses on situational awareness and physical conditioning so as to improve agility and make sure you're fit, but is nearly entirely technique based. Size, age and so on play no part. Its used by many secret and military forces due to its efficiency.

The sparrow does not fly where the tiger walks.

Wow, rather fascinating :) Good luck with opening a school. You are right not to put up with nonsense from people. Avoid inefficient techniques at all costs. Sometimes some martial arts focus too much on tradition rather than what works in them.

I tend to prefer traditional martial arts to the more "modern" ones... but if tradition means it's stupid, forget tradition. In this case, these idiot techniques aren't even traditional. The guy teaches them to teach people how to do things that don't flow naturally, or something like that. Except he doesn't do the ones that DO flow naturally, so the people are trained to do things that don't flow, and to my mind don't really work right and never really practice what does work. Talk about stupid. But I couldn't say that in a million years to his face, unless I were telling him off and planning to leave. Or, I suppose if he asked what I thought, but he'd be pretty pissed, I suspect, and it's not what you're SUPPOSED to say, even when asked. I'd just do it anyway because that's the kind of person I am. Also, he gives black belts to people I'd not dream of giving a black belt to. Well, at least not at the time he does it. There's one guy particular who paid a lot of money to train real fast so he could be an instructor... but you CAN'T be an instructor on two years training, even if you train every day. I mean, he knows the material in a general sort of way, but he just hasn't got any of it refined at all. And it looks terrible. To me, giving people black belts like that is a sell-out, and I don't respect the giver anymore.

Ki/Chi in the wider context are amazing. Don't be so quick to dismiss them. :) Through related techniques, some practitioners have been able to live very long, very healthy lives, without their bodies and minds decaying the way most tend to.

Yes well. I my, uh, third school one of the grandmasters we went through in my time there was very into chi/ki. (It's a matter of the spelling of an oriental character, and there is no really right/wrong spelling. It's just not english.) He'd do a form using his chi and then put his hand near a plant and make it move without touching it. Great. I mean, he did it. But is that chi? Uh, well I guess? As long as you're talking within physics, I'm okay with chi. Focusing your mind, I think, tends to focus all your muscles and efforts towards that one thing, and makes whatever you're doing more effective. I'm a huge fan of focus. And breathing, too. You've got to breathe right. But those are really just physics. Breathing correctly allows you to put more force into the technique. Using your entire body instead of just one arm puts hugely more force into something. Relaxing can make you go faster, which makes the technique have more force. If all that is chi, then fine, chi. If chi is some mystical internal energy that flows around in your body, quatsch. As for people living a long time, it's probably that they tend to breathe better (which I think is huge), and excercise and stretch and things that physics and common sense would dictate make you more healthy. But then, my grandmother is 97 and hasn't done chi things, and is very healthy. So it doesn't take chi.

The Krav Maga is a jewish martial art...

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that. I've done some Israli military stuff, which was just darn cool. And situational awareness is a key to staying safe and not HAVING to use your martial arts, or not much if you do. And imo technique based martial arts ALWAYS beat strength based ones. Well, unless the attacker is SO much bigger... for example, a 5 year old getting carried off by a guy who's 6'2"... they can fight back, but even given all the technique in the world, sometimes they'll get gotten. Which is why you also teach them to scream bloody murder. :cool:

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Yes well. I my, uh, third school one of the grandmasters we went through in my time there was very into chi/ki. (It's a matter of the spelling of an oriental character, and there is no really right/wrong spelling. It's just not english.) He'd do a form using his chi and then put his hand near a plant and make it move without touching it. Great. I mean, he did it. But is that chi? Uh, well I guess? As long as you're talking within physics, I'm okay with chi. Focusing your mind, I think, tends to focus all your muscles and efforts towards that one thing, and makes whatever you're doing more effective. I'm a huge fan of focus. And breathing, too. You've got to breathe right. But those are really just physics. Breathing correctly allows you to put more force into the technique. Using your entire body instead of just one arm puts hugely more force into something. Relaxing can make you go faster, which makes the technique have more force. If all that is chi, then fine, chi. If chi is some mystical internal energy that flows around in your body, quatsch. As for people living a long time, it's probably that they tend to breathe better (which I think is huge), and excercise and stretch and things that physics and common sense would dictate make you more healthy.
This is indeed what I mean by ki/chi. :) Its basis is heavily in physics (and biology even). Perhaps its original believers assigned it a religious aspect, as such was common at the time. In many ways though, religious beliefs such as Ki are in fact a profound understanding of the laws of the universe and how they affect the mind and body. Even beliefs in reincarnation are feasible, because in the end we are composed of energy. This is why Chi/ki have such fantastic application in martial arts, as they put science into fighting. From actual fighting to actions such as breaking bricks with a fist, the idea of focus (chi/ki) is central.

As for how he got that plant to move, it could be based on the fact that humans all have electric fields (we are essentially made up of energy at our most basic level). By focusing your mind greatly, you can connect with the field of other objects and perhaps move them. Some people are born with the ability to do this things much easier. This is how scientists are attempting to explain telekinesis, telepathy and so on, according to the Discovery Channel. Practising focus a lot could yield such results as moving the plant.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that. I've done some Israli military stuff, which was just darn cool. And situational awareness is a key to staying safe and not HAVING to use your martial arts, or not much if you do. And imo technique based martial arts ALWAYS beat strength based ones. Well, unless the attacker is SO much bigger... for example, a 5 year old getting carried off by a guy who's 6'2"... they can fight back, but even given all the technique in the world, sometimes they'll get gotten. Which is why you also teach them to scream bloody murder. :cool:
Well yeah a 5 year old kid is kind of unlikely to win that kind of a fight. A fight between to adults is a different story though. ;)

The only fight I've ever lost is when I tripped over some shit while I was drunk and he started punching me in the face on the ground. I tried to move out of the way of his punches but I was too rocked.

Most of the fights I've been in happened several years ago, during school. A lot of times I'd start a fight with an older bully just cause I was tired of their shit. Those I'd usually lose, but I'd do enough damage that the bully would stop. I did win a couple, but I ended up crying at the end of them anyway.

I haven't been in a real fight for a long time now, and don't intend to get in any.

Me and my friends in high school almost got in a fight with this other group. They challenged one of my friends to a fight at the Jack in the Box, but when we arrived, the other group changed their minds I guess. Which was good, because getting hurt sucks

This is indeed what I mean by ki/chi. :) Its basis is heavily in physics (and biology even). ....

Yes, well ki based in physics and biology is to my mind just physics and biology, and using those to my advantage is a great idea. I do it all the time in other things, why ignore it in my martial arts? But ki based in mysticism and reincarnation and energy flows aren't exactly my cup of tea, and as far as I know, that's still fairly common. I know in my limited experience it's been true.

[QUOTE}As for how he got that plant to move, it could be based on the fact that humans all have electric fields ...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I figured at the time it was probably some form of static electricity or something. We're always electrically charged in some form or other. Also, heat and air currents could have something to do with it. The plant was a fairly flimsy one. I also don't think that merely focusing your mind will change your electrical fields. That's why he had to "do the form right" first. Heh. As to telekinesis and telepathy, I'm just plain skeptical. It's like faith healing and televangelists. Mmhm. Riiight.

Yes, well ki based in physics and biology is to my mind just physics and biology, and using those to my advantage is a great idea. I do it all the time in other things, why ignore it in my martial arts? But ki based in mysticism and reincarnation and energy flows aren't exactly my cup of tea, and as far as I know, that's still fairly common. I know in my limited experience it's been true.
Indeed, its probably what makes the martial arts so effective. The idea of focus and technique :) Reincarnation, from a mystical point of view, seems flimsy to me. From a conservation of energy point of view, its more plausible.

Yeah, I figured at the time it was probably some form of static electricity or something. We're always electrically charged in some form or other. Also, heat and air currents could have something to do with it. The plant was a fairly flimsy one. I also don't think that merely focusing your mind will change your electrical fields. That's why he had to "do the form right" first. Heh. As to telekinesis and telepathy, I'm just plain skeptical. It's like faith healing and televangelists. Mmhm. Riiight.
Well if we indeed do emanate such electromagnetic fields, it would be possible, at least on a theoretical level, according to scientists. Based on new knowledge regarding atomic structures and quantum mechanics at the sub-atomic level, I am becoming increasingly less skeptical regarding psionics (telekinetics, telepathy etc).

As for faith healing, that is something entirely different, in which I must say I do not believe. This is all really off topic though. :p

I haven't been in any real fights, save one. I'm not going to elaborate on the details, but I ended up whacking him upside the head, and breaking my hand. The moral is: don't hit someone in the head with a closed fist.

Mostly I'm too friendly with everyone to get into a fight.

Well ... *takes a deep breath*

My first school taught a style made up by the head instructor there, which he called Jubushikido, and also taught Shotokan.
My second school taught a form of Tae Kwon Do again styled by the instructor, but much better done and closer to other people's arts than the first.
My third school was Tang Soo Do, but we also did Akijiujitzu, which is a small circle jiujitzu, but tends to look more to the lethal combat type end of things.
My fourth and current school is also Tang Soo Do with a side of Hapkido.

I'd love some day to get into a pureish form of Aikido, but I'm not willing to put up with the BS about chi flow and random eastern mysticism which usually go along with it. I've also considered opening my own school. In fact, we had our Christmas Party yesterday, and the master guy in charge of the guy who's the instructor at the school where I go was giving me a hard time, and saying I should get into his testing cycle, and open my own school, presumably under his name like all the other instructors there. But his testing cycles would require me to waste time training in things I don't want to learn (think nunchuku (spelling?) and stupid self-defense techniques which don't work right and are totally counter-intuitive) and costs money I don't have to spend on it. Plus, the guy doesn't even remember from one year to the next what rank I am, or my first name, or anything. Basically, in my experience, he's a jerk who couldn't care less about me, so why the heck would I want to test under him, much less get rank under him. Geez. But I smiled and said appropriate polite things that did not include "ok, I'll do that". He said he'd convince me, but I doubt it. I like the instructor at my local school, but he's almost the same rank as I am, and I've been in it a long time, so I don't really learn much from him. I just learn much by teaching. Plus, they're into weird diet-changing where you can't eat all sorts of things I like, and other nutso stuff. Anyone who's read this far gets a gold star. And I should probably just quit because now I'm just ranting. Anyway, I'm thinking about moving on to another school or style or something, and it's kind of up for grabs what. I'm not sure I'm up for Krav Maga or whatever else, though, but I don't really know much about them.

I'm close to getting my black belt in Tang Soo Do, you're the first person I've met outside of the class that studied the form.

I'd definatly recomend Krav Maga if you're interested in a technique based form. My friend studies it, and it's badass.

I was looking to go into Brazilian jujitzu or Muay Thai myself.

The only fight I've ever lost is when I tripped over some shit while I was drunk and he started punching me in the face on the ground. I tried to move out of the way of his punches but I was too rocked.

I'm sorry, but that made me laugh a little bit :)


I haven't been in any real fights, save one. I'm not going to elaborate on the details, but I ended up whacking him upside the head, and breaking my hand. The moral is: don't hit someone in the head with a closed fist.

Which is what I was talking about earlyer.

...The moral is: don't hit someone in the head with a closed fist....
I dunno about that. Just hit them RIGHT with a fist, and you get my results, not yours. Granted, if I had time to think I'd use something else, but his nose was what broke, not my hand. You just have to pick your spot, and make sure your fist is tight and correct. Hitting the wrong part of your fist is almost trying to get a broken hand.

I'm close to getting my black belt in Tang Soo Do, you're the first person I've met outside of the class that studied the form.

I'd definatly recomend Krav Maga if you're interested in a technique based form. My friend studies it, and it's badass.

I was looking to go into Brazilian jujitzu or Muay Thai myself.

Congrats on the almost-black belt. We should just make a martial arts discussion thread so we stop ninjaing other people's threads.

Have you ever had to actually USE the Tang Soo Do, though?

Brazilian jujitzu is the way to go if you either want to hurt people, or get hurt. Or if you plan to get into barroom brawls a lot. Or rip off people's ears and things. Not a very pretty art, that one. But great to fight with, as I understand it. I can't imagine if you like Tang Soo Do that you'd go for that.

Unless you fight a lot?

Congrats on the almost-black belt. We should just make a martial arts discussion thread so we stop ninjaing other people's threads.

Have you ever had to actually USE the Tang Soo Do, though?

Brazilian jujitzu is the way to go if you either want to hurt people, or get hurt. Or if you plan to get into barroom brawls a lot. Or rip off people's ears and things. Not a very pretty art, that one. But great to fight with, as I understand it. I can't imagine if you like Tang Soo Do that you'd go for that.

Unless you fight a lot?

I've only ever been in 1 street fight. A group of skinheads attacked me and my friends comming home from a show.

I want to learn Brazilian jujitzu so that I have the knowledge to do that kind of damage, should I ever need to. I don't expect to ever need to, but I always say it's better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

I prefer not to fight whenever possible. Getting hurt and hurting people sucks. Unless it's a more controled, training environment, then I love to fight :)

Listen, you have obviously never been in a fight more serious than a third grade bitch fight. So I'll will break this to you gently. When someone is fighting you, it means they want to hurt you. BAD! And if they manage to get you on the ground, they will sometimes kick you in the face. When I fight, I don't fight so people think I "look cool." I fight to win.

So if I have to rip a dudes leg out of its hip socket, or snap his arm at the elbow, or break his jaw, or DDT him on the cement, in order to insure that the fight ends with me standing, then that is what I do! Got it?

Like I said, you've obviously never been in a fight with a dude that would snap your neck if you gave him an opportunity. Welcome to the real world!
Heard of excessive Force Senior C**tball?

Listen, you have obviously never been in a fight more serious than a third grade bitch fight. So I'll will break this to you gently. When someone is fighting you, it means they want to hurt you. BAD! And if they manage to get you on the ground, they will sometimes kick you in the face. When I fight, I don't fight so people think I "look cool." I fight to win.

So if I have to rip a dudes leg out of its hip socket, or snap his arm at the elbow, or break his jaw, or DDT him on the cement, in order to insure that the fight ends with me standing, then that is what I do! Got it?

Like I said, you've obviously never been in a fight with a dude that would snap your neck if you gave him an opportunity. Welcome to the real world!

Of the street fights I've observed in my life, which I admit to be less than a dozen, it was usually a couple guys either mad over a girl, drunk, or somebody started mouthing off and it got out of hand. They tussle for a bit, maybe somebody comes out on top, but they usually both walk away scratched and a little bloody. Here in Vegas, streetfights are usually just to settle stuff that doesn't call for a killing. If somebody wants to kill you here, they do it with guns and friends. Sad, but thats what its degenerated into.

Here, you're allowed to project force that is "equal, or slightly greater" than the force being rendered against you. Employing lethal force against an adversary who does not have the intent, opportunity, and capacity to kill you may be unlawful.

So, I guess, yeah, if I have a fair reason to believe that somebody wants to kill or cripple me, I'd fight back hard, but if its just some dude in a bar who wants to give me a shiner 'cause I did the lambada with his sister, I don't think I'd kill or cripple over something like that.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but the "real world" isn't always socket-ripping and thunderdome. Sometimes its just guys being guys, and it doesn't have to escalate that fast.

Ok well after a school rugby match the members of the losing team started bitching and complaining, you could tell they were really pissed off, and one of them comes up to me and asks if I thanked the ref for playing on our side. I laughed at the guy and walked off to a mate (billy) and told him what happened. When the guy who had made the comment walked past billy said to him "We dont need to cheat when were playing people that play like you guys". Needless to say the guy wasnt impressed by these comments so he drops his gear and and starts comming our way, his mum close behind, while we walk away. When the guy gets here he grabs my mate swings him around and punches him in the face. Now my friend is a tough guy and can hold his own so I stand back and wait to hold off any of the guy's mates incase they get any ideas about jumping in. Then out of the blue the guy's mum walks up behind my mate and grabs him from behind so he cant hit back while telling her son to "kill the wanker". It is at this point I come down and crack the guy myself, this he wasnt expecting and so he stumbles back and billy manages to struggle free from the mum who then begins to claw at him with her nails. Seeing this billy's foster mother comes down and lands an impressive blow on the guys mum's face. By this time I had laid a couple more hits on the wanker who started it all and billy had started on one of his mates who came over. Me and Billy were eventually dragged out by four or five spectators and held back to 'cool off'. During this cooling off periosd we realised what we had started as both rugby teams and most of the parents were now involved in a huge riot. Some of the most notiable things i saw at this point were:
1. a 4 foot 9 guy from our school leve a 6 foot guy with one jumping punch
2. the wanker who started it puking his guts out
3. billys foster mum flooring the guys mum
4. my personal favourite the principle taking on a couple of the other teams parents.

YAY! :D

Fighting is usually fun, until you find out that the person you're fighting with has friends in the room.

I also like fighting a lot more when I was younger.

I've been in a bunch of fights. Won a few, lost a few. Oddly enough, I seem to do better against multiple opponents. Every fight I've lost has been one-on-one and every fight I've won has involved at least a second person(if only for a few moments).

A few rules I have learned:

Make sure you're on the same page as your foe. If you're having a friendly(or semi-serious rivalry) kind of fight, make sure he is too. Because if he is trying to hospitalize or kill you, it kinda puts you at a disadvantage. This is a lesson learned the hard way during a fight with my girlfriend's brother. I was expecting a nice dirty brawl between rivals where one of us gets clobbered, we shake hands and part like men. He put me in the hospital.

Starting a fight by breaking a man's nose and making him taste his own blood is a good way to dishearten not just him, but his buddies too.

THe groin is actually a fairly poor target in a fight. ANything less than a direct hit to the testicles is unlikely to floor your opponent and it's a relatively small target. However, as a fast strike as part of a combination of blows, it can be very effective. Grabbing and squeezing the testicles is also very effective.

A knife is overrated and is remarkably inferior to a good baseball bat. :)

While it's true that a good martial artist can disarm a man with a gun at close range, the penalty for making a mistake is very severe.

I've been in a bunch of fights. Won a few, lost a few. Oddly enough, I seem to do better against multiple opponents. Every fight I've lost has been one-on-one and every fight I've won has involved at least a second person(if only for a few moments).

A few rules I have learned:

Make sure you're on the same page as your foe. If you're having a friendly(or semi-serious rivalry) kind of fight, make sure he is too. Because if he is trying to hospitalize or kill you, it kinda puts you at a disadvantage. This is a lesson learned the hard way during a fight with my girlfriend's brother. I was expecting a nice dirty brawl between rivals where one of us gets clobbered, we shake hands and part like men. He put me in the hospital.

Starting a fight by breaking a man's nose and making him taste his own blood is a good way to dishearten not just him, but his buddies too.

THe groin is actually a fairly poor target in a fight. ANything less than a direct hit to the testicles is unlikely to floor your opponent and it's a relatively small target. However, as a fast strike as part of a combination of blows, it can be very effective. Grabbing and squeezing the testicles is also very effective.

A knife is overrated and is remarkably inferior to a good baseball bat. :)

While it's true that a good martial artist can disarm a man with a gun at close range, the penalty for making a mistake is very severe.


Remember that fights usually end up on the ground. If you're no good at ground fighting, you're going to get your ass kicked.

I was in a party with some cousins, who were as drunk as hell, i was upstairs kissing a girl, it was all going to well when i heard a lot of disturbance downstairs, when i went to check out i saw all the people in the party were fighting against each other. Anyway i saw this guy beat the hell of my cousin, i went to help, i was on my way when some bastard destroyed a chair in my back!, it was my cousin's brother, when he saw me he apologized, but i was so pissed off that i kick his ass and start fighting against everyone i saw, goddamn i even broke the nose of one of my friends, i only got a purple eye.

Remember that fights usually end up on the ground. If you're no good at ground fighting, you're going to get your ass kicked.

That's all well and good one-on-one. You don't EVER want to be on the ground while another opponent is standing!

That's all well and good one-on-one. You don't EVER want to be on the ground while another opponent is standing!
Hence my comment that it sucks when they have friends.

Hence my comment that it sucks when they have friends.

Ah. :p

Ah. :p
My ribs still remember me making that mistake SEVERAL times.

Which brings me to my next favorite tactic - lay there like you're dead and hope they get bored with kicking you.

My ribs still remember me making that mistake SEVERAL times.

Which brings me to my next favorite tactic - lay there like you're dead and hope they get bored with kicking you.

Forunately, I never lost a REAL fight like that. But usually, when I'm with MY friends, and I'm lying on the ground in pain is when I hear the words, "Let's shave him!" :eek:

Also fortunately, they are ususally kidding. :p Suffice to say, my friends are all the enemies I ever need. :D

Zilam, I have to come down on you for this post. I don't care how strong the other guy was or if he was on the football team. Violence is not cool.

Was this in self defense or in defense of someone else? Those are the only two situations where I wouldn't have a problem with it. And even in those situations I don't think it is anything to brag about. Beating someone up may in rare situations might be necessary, but you shouldn't be happy about doing it.


Yeah violence isn't cool..But i was both helping a buddy and defending myself..my friend was pinned against a wall and getting a beating..i jumped in to help him..got hit in the back of the neck..and unleashed...And everyone was amazed..Cuz I am the big "Bible Basher" on the floor..and they saw that..and I was like hey...gotta do what ya gotta do...

Several points, since I suspect my prior post was rather too subtle.

A. Tough men (or tough women) do not need to tell the world that they are, primarily because in order to be a truly potent warrior, one must attain a certain degree of mental clarity. Mental clarity does not come to those who shout; they're too loud to hear their own thoughts, much less the advice of the heart.
B. Strength does not come from muscle. Strength comes from fortitude, determination, and courage.
C. Beating people up (even in self-defence) is, at best, borderline criminal behaviour and anti-social. There is no honour in it, and no true martial artist uses his ability in that way. If they do, then they do not understand the purpose of their artform(s), and I question either the truth of what they say or the ability and responsibility of their Master.
D. The 'DDT' is not a viable offensive maneuver, as it is inefficient in both energy and range of motion. Therefore those ascribing to it's mastery and use are clearly not, in fact, showing any degree of understanding of the martial arts whatsoever, neither at the physical nor mental levels.
E. Those who brag rarely know what they're bragging about, and make small mistakes that those who know those things can instantly notice. Bragging without cause on a public forum is 1. liable to be quickly noticed and 2. utterly pointless since the chances of any social gain are minimal at best, and reversed to the negative at worst.

:)

all this talk of fighting....where is the love? I want everyone on this thread to go find someone to either dance with, make love to, of hug warmly, right now, to even out all the negetivity on this thread :)

Plus, those things are fun ;-)

I am unbeatable in a fight. Whenever someone is about to attack me, I bust a move. I lay down some flashing fresh dance steps and really serve it up. My would be attacker is then forced to try to serve me back with an even more elaborate flashier fresher set of dance licks. While he tries to do this, I shoot him in the face. Problem solved.

I am unbeatable in a fight. Whenever someone is about to attack me, I bust a move. I lay down some flashing fresh dance steps and really serve it up. My would be attacker is then forced to try to serve me back with an even more elaborate flashier fresher set of dance licks. While he tries to do this, I shoot him in the face. Problem solved.
wow its like west side story all over again, but better and more violent! :p

Pistols at 15 paces!

It's a quote from a TV show, after the character gets into a bar brawl.

The fist isn't really as an effective weapon as other parts of the body for an attack. It spreads the force to far, you can damage yourself easily, and it's all fleshy. The elbow, knee, or a chop with a rigid hand (if done correctly) will deliver much more concentrated force, with less of a risk of you breking something.

Hell Yeah
Muay Thai style
http://www.alanys-films.com/ongbak/ong-bak_clip.avi

Yeahhhhhh.. Who would have thought that Nationstates was full of crazed psychopaths that fight every week.. But hey!! You have to release that tension somehow

Not really a fight but hey...

We had just gone to a party and when we came out for some air one of my friends noticed a guy he didn't like, since he always speaks his mind and was a bit intoxicated, he started yelling at the other person (btw the other guy's name was Ramses:D )
So they yell a bit at each other and I'm getting bored. Finally I go up to the guy and punch him in the face,n then we all walk away, he didn't do anything (which is weird because there were 3 of us and 3 of them)


Another thing:
december 1st there was an ultra-right manifestation in my city.
Of course no-one was going to take this and a counter-manifestation was organised.
It all enden in riots, stone throwing, barricades on fire and some skirmishes between left and right wing activists

I am unbeatable in a fight. Whenever someone is about to attack me, I bust a move. I lay down some flashing fresh dance steps and really serve it up. My would be attacker is then forced to try to serve me back with an even more elaborate flashier fresher set of dance licks. While he tries to do this, I shoot him in the face. Problem solved.

Ah, yes, but what if he comes at you with a kiwi fruit?

Ah, yes, but what if he comes at you with a kiwi fruit?

Or a bunch of loganberries?

Well i haven't been in a fight since my school days (appart from the guy who nutted me becuase my m8 was dancing with his sister in a nightclub, but the bouncers hauled him away before i could do anything to him) but a big part of that is that outisde of school it is far far easier to avoid conflict. In school it is often hard to avboid tormentors or random thugs so i was involved in a number of messy incidents a number of which involved me losing the rag completely and having to be dragged off people's barely concious bodies. I really don't like fighting as the loss of control i have experinced truely scares me, as does the fact that hurting people felt so good.

of course the msot interesting "fight" was in priamry school: a member of another class and i got pissed off with each other and set to, it wasn't a truely serious fight so both of us felt free to bring the wrestling manouvers...
at which point we got caught by the teachers and were hauled up infront of the head teacher for "playing wresttling" a far far more serious offence than a proper fight, apparently... (in primary school i was never punished for any of my fights bar that one).