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Take this quiz to see which party you would support if all you knew was their statements and nothing else...

http://www.votebyissue.org/cbc/q.aspx?q=3

I apologize that the CBC did not see fit to include the Greens in this quiz. If you think that was unfair, write them some nasty letters, although it's probably because they don't have records of Jim Harris speaking publically on all of these issues.

Disclaimer: This being a quiz, obviously not every policy or issue is presented.

My results:


I agreed with:

Jack Layton on 11 issues
Paul Martin on 9 issues
Gilles Duceppe on 6 issues
Stephen Harper on 3 issues

I disagreed with:

Stephen Harper on 4 issues
Gilles Duceppe on 4 issues
Paul Martin on 1 issue
Jack Layton on 0 issues

I neither agreed nor disagreed with:

Jack Layton on 2 issue
Paul Martin on 2 issues
Gilles Duceppe on 2 issues
Stephen Harper on 5 issues

(I refused to answer statements if I agreed to part of it, but disagreed with another part of it. Hence neither fully agreed nor fully disagreed.)

And there you have it. If I score 1 point for each yes, subtract 1 for each no, and nothing for the ambivalent ones, I score:

NDP: 11
Lib: 8
CPC: -1
Bloc: 2 (not that I could vote for the Bloc anyway, as I don't live in Quebec.)

here's mine:

Agree -

Jack Layton on 12 issues
Paul Martin on 7 issues
Stephen Harper on 4 issues

Disagree -

Stephen Harper on 8 issues
Paul Martin on 5 issues
Jack Layton on 0 issues

Not to agree or disagree -

Stephen Harper on 0 issues
Paul Martin on 0 issues
Jack Layton on 0 issues

Final result -

NDP: 12
Liberal: 2
Conservative: -4

These are my results: Pretty much what I expected.


You agreed with:


Gilles Duceppe
on 5 issues Foreign Aid, Defence Spending, Gun Control, Farming, National Security

Jack Layton
on 9 issues Foreign Aid, Child Care, Economic Growth, Relations with the provinces, Taxes, Gun Control, Employment Insurance, Healthcare Funding, Parliamentary Reform

Paul Martin
on 10 issues Child Care, Economic Growth, Relations with the provinces, Taxes, Gun Control, Farming, Employment Insurance, Healthcare Funding, Parliamentary Reform, National Security

Stephen Harper
on 2 issues Farming, National Security



You dissagreed with:

Gilles Duceppe
on 7 issues Child Care, Economic Growth, Relations with the provinces, Taxes, Employment Insurance, Healthcare Funding, Parliamentary Reform

Jack Layton
on 3 issues Defence Spending, Farming, National Security

Paul Martin
on 2 issues Foreign Aid, Defence Spending

Stephen Harper
on 10 issues Foreign Aid, Child Care, Economic Growth, Relations with the provinces, Defence Spending, Taxes, Gun Control, Employment Insurance, Healthcare Funding, Parliamentary Reform

Jack Layton
on 3 issues Economic Growth, Defence Spending, Healthcare Funding

Paul Martin
on 9 issues Foreign Aid, Parliamentary Reform, Relations with the provinces, Farming, Child Care, Taxes, Employment Insurance, National Security, Gun Control


Stephen Harper
on 0 issues

BTW, what do y'all think of Harper's new haircut?

Paul Martin
on 7 issues

Gilles Duceppe
on 3 issues

Stephen Harper
on 8 issues

Jack Layton
on 3 issues



You disagreed with...

Paul Martin
on 5 issues
Gilles Duceppe
on 9 issues

Stephen Harper
on 4 issues
Jack Layton
on 9 issues

meh... I'm not even conservative

If I was Canadian, I'd vote: http://www.libertarian.ca/index.html

Paul Martin
on 7 issues

Gilles Duceppe
on 3 issues

Stephen Harper
on 8 issues

Jack Layton
on 3 issues



You disagreed with...

Paul Martin
on 5 issues
Gilles Duceppe
on 9 issues

Stephen Harper
on 4 issues
Jack Layton
on 9 issues

meh... I'm not even conservative

If I was Canadian, I'd vote: http://www.libertarian.ca/index.html

Let me calculate...
Conservative: 4
Liberal: 2
NDP: -6
Bloc Quebecois: -6

You pretty much wander somewhere in the centre-right area. ;)

Interesting thread.

I agreed with

Paul Martin on 10 issues
Jack Layton on 10 issues
Gille Duceppe on 5 issues
Stephen Harper on 2 issues

I disagreed with

Stephen Harper on 9 issues
Gille Duceppe on 7 issues
Jack Layton on 2 issues
Paul Martin on 2 issues

Let me calculate...
Conservative: 4
Liberal: 2
NDP: -6
Bloc Quebecois: -6

You pretty much wander somewhere in the centre-right area. ;)

To tell you the truth, I voted randomly for some issues. Canada doesn't really have a party I'd like to vote for. How socially conservative are the conservatives?

To tell you the truth, I voted randomly for some issues. Canada doesn't really have a party I'd like to vote for. How socially conservative are the conservatives?It depends on who you believe. The Conservatives have been trying to position themselves as reasonably neutral on social issues, though many of us have strong doubts about the truth of that statement. Certainly no one could call them progressive, but they are trying to shed the social conservative label. Be that as it may, they have strong support from social conservatives and there are a number of social conservatives who are party members and Members of Parliament. There is a strong possibility that what is being said at the top level of the party is not what is being said at the grassroots level, if you know what I mean.

If it had been up to the Conservatives, the pro-Same Sex Marriage law would not have passed, there would be more limitations on abortion and contraceptives, that sort of thing. Which probably would not appeal to a libertarian like yourself. I hear complaints pretty frequently from Canadian Libertarians that they don't really have a political voice, although many of them have taken a closer look at the Green Party. (The Canadian Green party is not like the European Green parties - they are very much to the right on economic issues, for example, even though the environment is still an important part of their platform.)

Interesting note on the Greens for Canada - that's pretty cool. Still, I'm no environmentalist.;)

I really can't wrap my head around some of the questions.

For example the second one.


Provide stable and transparent federal funding that grows when needed, but allows a balance of public and private delivery options.

Really, how could you not agree with this? What's the alternative? "Cease to provide stable and transparent federal funding that grows when needed, which allows a balance of public and private delivery options, and instead plunge the federal government into fiscal insolvency, repudiate Canada's pecuniary obligations, and generally totally destroy the economy as we know it"?

It's so general as to be virtually meaningless.

Anway, apparently I have most in common with the Bloc and Harper.

I really can't wrap my head around some of the questions.

For example the second one.Provide stable and transparent federal funding that grows when needed, but allows a balance of public and private delivery options.

Really, how could you not agree with this? What's the alternative? "Cease to provide stable and transparent federal funding that grows when needed, which allows a balance of public and private delivery options, and instead plunge the federal government into fiscal insolvency, repudiate Canada's pecuniary obligations, and generally totally destroy the economy as we know it"?

It's so general as to be virtually meaningless.

Anway, apparently I have most in common with the Bloc and Harper.
You don't get it because you're not taking part in the Canadian controversy about allowing private healthcare. To you it makes sense to have private healthcare, as it is available in your country. It's new to Canadians, and many are adamently opposed. At any rate, the key to that statement that would have made Canadians accept or reject it was the word "private".

You don't get it because you're not taking part in the Canadian controversy about allowing private healthcare. To you it makes sense to have private healthcare, as it is available in your country. It's new to Canadians, and many are adamently opposed. At any rate, the key to that statement that would have made Canadians accept or reject it was the word "private".

Oh,yah, I forgot about that. Incidently, most countries allow private healthcare. It seems to be a bit of a Canadian idosyncracy.

But why the precatory language about increasing funding &c. then. Why not just ask whether or not private heath-care delivery should be allowed?

Oh,yah, I forgot about that. Incidently, most countries allow private healthcare. It seems to be a bit of a Canadian idosyncracy.

But why the precatory language about increasing funding &c. then. Why not just ask whether or not private heath-care delivery should be allowed?You know politicians are never that straight forward. The Conservatives have to mention both public and private in the same breath in order not to upset potential voters too much.

And Canada does have private delivery in some areas - they sneak in through loopholes when provincial governments turn a blind eye. But until recently, it was thought to contravene the Canadian Health Act. It's all very complicated, really. If you want to know more about the issues, I can recommend a certain blog post, as I don't have the energy to type it all out at the moment.

http://rationalreasons.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_rationalreasons_archive.html
Scroll down to the June 17th post. And his comments section has a number of arguments, both pro and con.

Well, the results are in and it's hopeless, man, hopeless.

Out of fifteen questions for each of the four, get this:

I agreed with Jack Layton 7 times.
I agreed with Paul Martin 7 times.
I agreed with Gilles Duceppe 7 times.

I agreed with Steven Harper only twice.

Paul Martin on 6 issues
Parliamentary Reform, Employment Insurance, Relations with the provinces, Gun Control, Foreign Aid, National Security

Gilles Duceppe on 4 issues
Healthcare Funding, Gun Control, Foreign Aid, National Security

Jack Layton on 4 issues
Defence Spending, Healthcare Funding, Foreign Aid, National Security

Stephen Harper on 4 issues
Employment Insurance, Healthcare Funding, Relations with the provinces, Economic Growth



You disagreed with...

Paul Martin on 6 issues
Defence Spending, Healthcare Funding, Economic Growth, Farming, Taxes, Child Care

Gilles Duceppe on 8 issues
Parliamentary Reform, Defence Spending, Employment Insurance, Relations with the provinces, Economic Growth, Farming, Taxes, Child Care

Jack Layton on 8 issues
Parliamentary Reform, Employment Insurance, Relations with the provinces, Gun Control, Economic Growth, Farming, Taxes, Child Care

Stephen Harper on 8 issues
Parliamentary Reform, Defence Spending, Gun Control, Foreign Aid, Farming, National Security, Taxes, Child Care

haha, mine went

Agreed with

Martin 8
Duceppe 6
Layton 7
Harper 7

Disagree
Martin 4
Duceppe 6
Layton 5
Harper 5

as for agree/disagree
0 across the board

so if you use the add one for agree and subtract one for disagree I get
Martin +4
Duceppe 0
Layton +2
Harper +2

All I can tell you is I wont be voting Liberal. I want them out of power for at least one term to teach them not to get caught wasting my money illegally!

I don't want to vote for the Conservative because well socially they scare me but I think I will hold my breath and hope that anything they do(if in power) would be over turned rather quickly. The only real hope for me, is that the Conservative's will form a minority government. That way they can do all the economic reform they want but will get no where with social reform. The Bloc, nor the NDP would ever follow them socially and I do not belive enough Liberals would follow them either.

Paul Martin
on 5 issues

Gilles Duceppe
on 3 issues

Stephen Harper
on 8 issues

Jack Layton
on 8 issues

Do I want too much?:confused:

Well, the results are in and it's hopeless, man, hopeless.

Out of fifteen questions for each of the four, get this:

I agreed with Jack Layton 7 times.
I agreed with Paul Martin 7 times.
I agreed with Gilles Duceppe 7 times.

I agreed with Steven Harper only twice.
Ah Dobbs, you're so conflicted. If it's any consolation, I also think that a lot of the things Duceppe says make sense UNLESS it's about separation or further regionalization.

Ah Dobbs, you're so conflicted. If it's any consolation, I also think that a lot of the things Duceppe says make sense UNLESS it's about separation or further regionalization.
Trouble is, Duceppe and his party will say just about anything to anyone to get a vote. Are you conservative? Well, we're about being tight with money. Are you liberal? Hey, we're socially progressive. Are you a socialist? We're into building a Worker's Paradise! Free-Market Capitalist? Say goodbye to corporate taxes!

It's easy to offer the moon when you don't even own a pie.