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http://myopiczeal.blogsome.com/2005/11/30/thank-you-mr-president/
We live in the crossroads of world history. It is a moment that perhaps we do not fully understand. It is moment that George Bush does. Great leaders grasp their moment. They understand that which is bigger than themselves. They almost instinctively know that something larger than themselves is transpiring and that they have been cast on the stage of history by the Director of life to do His bidding. It is His call. George W. Bush gets it. Thank you, Mr. President for standing tall, picking up that mantle, and carrying us forward in the face of our enemies both here and abroad. Thank you for your faith and trust in the Author of Life, your dependence on the One who directs the affairs of men, and your unwavering commitment to the responsibility He has given you.

If this at least dealt with a few facts, something grounded in reality, I feel I could debate it. But how do you reach a person who argues like this?

http://myopiczeal.blogsome.com/2005/11/30/thank-you-mr-president/


If this at least dealt with a few facts, something grounded in reality, I feel I could debate it. But how do you reach a person who argues like this?

You don't. Why would you want to? Just knock him unconscious and steal his kidneys, I hear they fetch a hundred and fifty per piece.

It's not immediately evident, but "the One" that the blog refers to is actually Chuck Norris.

You can only hope to pay it no mind. It's opinion.

Not like this:

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Bush is an idiot.

That's about as strong an argument as the blogger's rather zealous (near fellatio if you ask me) praise of Bush.

You don't. Why would you want to? Just knock him unconscious and steal his kidneys, I hear they fetch a hundred and fifty per piece.
Typical far left response to a legitimate question you can't answer because you don't have a clue.

Typical far left response to a legitimate question you can't answer because you don't have a clue.

Come now, what do you expect me to say? I don't understand why I should bother constructing an argument if the other guy doesn't - It's just so much more amusing to bicker like spoiled children!

Tell him to go eat some pork and wear a cotton/polyester mix and see if he gets into heaven. Then tell him god spoke to you and told you he was wrong.


You get to sit back and watch his response to that.

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If this at least dealt with a few facts, something grounded in reality, I feel I could debate it. But how do you reach a person who argues like this?

I can't argue with this, other than call BS and just walk away.

But let me leave you with this: if God really does interfere in American politics, do you honestly think He would choose Bush?

Typical far left response to a legitimate question you can't answer because you don't have a clue.

Do you have a clue? Could you share it with us?

good point

Typical far left response to a legitimate question you can't answer because you don't have a clue.

This is the second time in a post I've created that you've made a stupid generalization as to what the "far left" is. I didn't consider the post helpful either but... you REALLY know so much about the guy that you can lock out all other possibilities? Honestly.

Thanks for the responses guys, but I don't think I've heard a solid answer really. I mean, look at this:

Well by rights given to me this is what i think. Our President is a spiritual man. Those of you who dont realize that should look closely at yourselves and determine exactly what defines your spirituality. I think once we put someone in ANY elected office we should let them work. I have said it before and i will say it again. I dont believe for a minute, than any person anywhere would send any other person in harms way, without good reason. I trust President Bush totally. Where i differ from most is that i find him maybe a little to trusting in others, yet he does back his people and that is important. Many cut and run when you make a mistake. Many cut and run when you let your feelings known. Many cut and run when they are dealing with the public and they are feeling the pressure. Its human nature of course but i always try to do what is right, try to do things based on people and i feel President Bush sleeps at night with both a heavy heart, but a clear conscience. I think if anyone has a problem it is out media. What can be said for anyone that is anxious to put over the air the loss of anyones life, especially an unidentified military casualty. I sit and wonder how many people must gasp when they hear this and how they anxiously, yet dreadfully await news of their loved ones status. I think the news has its place and i think that the newscasters are dispiscable lately. I would rather someone hate me for what i am than love me for what i am not. If the shoes fits, wear it. But i always remember the saying of a great black congressman who has since retired. JC Watts stated openly " A mans true character is best determined when his actions occur, when no one is watching" That should be the daily opening prayer of our elected officials. Yeah i know but wouldnt it be nice. Maybe not his direct quote but you get the picture. Better yet, look it up! Christmas is around the corner and death is always among us. Make sure, that you tell in some sort of way that you love those around you and that they know it. Before it is too late. Before it is too late. Before it is over. Its easy. Just do it!

This seems like the kind of person that stays silent and normally consents to the better informed. Why can a person talk at this level and take themselves seriously? And how do you stop them from it?

Typical far left response to a legitimate question you can't answer because you don't have a clue.


typical far right tactic of not gaining understanding of what is being said and spouting pure bullshit.

gee now wasn't that productive to this discussion?

sure we all get angry and say useless crap because of that anger, but I rarely see you using any sort of tact when "debating" with someone on the left.

Thanks for the responses guys, but I don't think I've heard a solid answer really. I mean, look at this:

This seems like the kind of person that stays silent and normally consents to the better informed. Why can a person talk at this level and take themselves seriously? And how do you stop them from it?
Why would you want them to??? :confused:

It seems that you are rather supportive of Bush. Congratulations on that part. However, a lot of what you are saying is that he recognizes something bigger than himself. From what I've seen of Bush, I believe he believes two things: That nothing is greater than America, and that he is the personal incarnation of all things American. Combine the two, and you have an individual that couldn't fathom the concept of something being greater than them. Therefore, I have a hard time finding what you are saying reasonable.

That's how you respond to something like that.

Thanks for the responses guys, but I don't think I've heard a solid answer really. I mean, look at this:



This seems like the kind of person that stays silent and normally consents to the better informed. Why can a person talk at this level and take themselves seriously? And how do you stop them from it?


you cant stop someone from being an idiot online or keep them from expressing an opinion that you don't agree with. if that were the case we would rarely hear from Eutrusca
:confused:

Do you have a clue? Could you share it with us?
And why would I do that ... again? Everytime I post anything about virtually any subject, that's about the same sort of response I get. What's the point in trying to convince the closed-minded? ( shrug )

What's the point in trying to convince the closed-minded? ( shrug )

And how exactly is this answer different from Solarea's "You don't [respond to this]", which you criticized in your first post?

Btw, in this case, I couldn't agree more. With both of you, as it happens. :)

you cant stop someone from being an idiot online or keep them from expressing an opinion that you don't agree with. if that were the case we would rarely hear from Eutrusca
:confused:

Why would you want them to??? :confused:

I wouldn't want to stop them from talking... probably should have clarified that. They have the right to speak their mind blah blah blah...

But how do you get into their realm of logic and show them the way out? How can you say that there is so much more to being a good president than being "trusting" or "spiritual"?

I don't see how that can be more appealing to someone than looking at what it really takes to be a qualified president- or why they are ok in their lacking knowledge to make the jump they do, to knowing so definatively that that is how the president is. What about the self-criticism we should throw against our arguments to keep them on track?

What's the point in trying to convince the closed-minded? ( shrug )

Gee, that sounds remarkably similar to the answer Solarea gave that you so quickly criticized.

Gee, that sounds remarkably similar to the answer Solarea gave that you so quickly criticized.
Reeeely? Wow! You are an unending source of perspicacity and intellectual agility. I stand in awe! :rolleyes:

Reeeely? Wow! You are an unending source of perspicacity and intellectual agility. I stand in awe! :rolleyes:

Oh please, you're not gonna tell us that post above was supposed to be sarcasm now, are you?

If there is a God, would he/she/it/they really waste his/her/it's time choosing the president of america. There is a whole universe out there.

Typical far left response to a legitimate question you can't answer because you don't have a clue.
What does a joke about kidney stealing have to do with communism?

Before this degenerates, let's take a deep breath here...

I ask myself that all the time. I still haven't quite figured out how to respond to the arguments of Nietzsche.

What does a joke about kidney stealing have to do with communism?
Everybody knows communists eat human kidneys. ;)

I can't argue with this, other than call BS and just walk away.

But let me leave you with this: if God really does interfere in American politics, do you honestly think He would choose Bush?

If God interfere with American politics... he's doing a pretty awful job for being omnipotent and omniscient.

http://myopiczeal.blogsome.com/2005/11/30/thank-you-mr-president/


If this at least dealt with a few facts, something grounded in reality, I feel I could debate it. But how do you reach a person who argues like this?
As quietly and as quickly as you can, you walk away. That's how you respond.

Then, once you're clear, you keep careful watch to see this person is going to vote for, and you do your damnedest to make sure somebody else gets elected.

Hero-worshippers make extremely bad judges of character, especially when they think they're going to be able to coat-tail along with their hero's mission, whatever it may be. So, no matter what their motivation, you don't want their guy in charge of your country.

(But, hey, doesn't the name of the source site say it all?)

If God interfere with American politics... he's doing a pretty awful job for being omnipotent and omniscient.
Maybe he planned it to go this way. Maybe he doesn't want one nation to lead all the others -- or at least, not this one.

Reeeely? Wow! You are an unending source of perspicacity and intellectual agility. I stand in awe! :rolleyes:

Your amazing wit is outstanding.

Simple....

"Then what was Hitler? By what you're saying, a person who takes a dare to leap forward is a great leader. That might be true, but Hitler did that. He took a daring step forward when he was on the brink of poverty, where he started from failing an art school entrance examination, sulking on the streets of Germany, to suddenly this leader of Germany. He attacked other countries to improve this country that he leapt into, a huge leap of faith. He pubically defaced a whole religion, a huge leap of faith. He started from even humbler origins then Bush and took a wilder leap forward to lead his country to 'greatness.' I bet 'the Author of Life' spoke to him.

Oh, was Hitler a great leader?

Sure Hitler's actions were of totally horrible and malicious nature, but he was improving his country! And it somewhat worked for a little while.

What makes a great leader is not his courage alone. His wisdom and knowledge matters too. So why don't you give a good argument saying why Bush is being wise in his decisions instead of turning this into philosophy?"

Simple....

"Then what was Hitler?
GODWIN

Boys and girls we seem to be forgetting one thing here. You never stopped to think that god dont exist and that as such its a fair statement that bush would be an idiot if he did believe in him. Then again, how many genius's hold up the wrong hand during the middle of a speech?? I think that not only is bush an idiot, your all not very bright for bothering to argue against someone to dumb to realise this fact. As such, Ill dumb it down. George bush=bad, guy who argue bush=good=bad. arguer's for George bush+god(The existence of)=completely retarded...