NationStates Jolt Archive


Religion

The Loyal Christians
02-12-2005, 20:45
Religious affiliation
Drunk commies deleted
02-12-2005, 20:46
None for me, thanks.
Jah Bootie
02-12-2005, 20:47
Zoroastrian
Utracia
02-12-2005, 20:47
I take it that you are only looking for Chirstians given the name "Loyal Christians"?
Safalra
02-12-2005, 20:49
Religious affiliation
Why is this multiple choice - aren't most religions mutually exclusive?
Solarea
02-12-2005, 20:50
Why is this multiple choice - aren't most religions mutually exclusive?

I took great pleasure in voting for all of them.
Jah Bootie
02-12-2005, 20:50
Also, I'm pretty sure there is at least one religion that isn't christian. The title of this should be "Christians, what is your denomination?"
[NS]Simonist
02-12-2005, 20:50
Has anybody else noticed how this guy can't do anything more than two to four word posts at any given time? I don't see the point of all the stupid polls if not only are you asking mundane and ridiculous questions (ie the "Your Views" poll that got locked last night), but you're also not even making an attempt at debate or conversation. I used to be Catholic, but as of now I'll just make it my religion to try to barb Loyal Christians into a post that requires a measurable amount of brain power.
Corsairius
02-12-2005, 20:51
I take it that you are only looking for Chirstians given the name "Loyal Christians"?

Eh, take it as I did... flamebait for those of us who aren't christian...
Bolol
02-12-2005, 20:51
I take it that you are only looking for Chirstians given the name "Loyal Christians"?

Ye of much cynicism...Welcome to the party.

I took great pleasure in voting for all of them.

Get ahold of yourself man!
Megaloria
02-12-2005, 20:52
I'll take "Trolls" for two hundred, Alex.
Hoos Bandoland
02-12-2005, 20:53
Eh, take it as I did... flamebait for those of us who aren't christian...

I thought it was just the opposite ... :rolleyes:
Bolol
02-12-2005, 20:56
I'll take "Trolls" for two hundred, Alex.

Alex isn't here right now...shh...it's okay...
Drunk commies deleted
02-12-2005, 20:56
I thought it was just the opposite ... :rolleyes:
When it's done right nobody can quite tell if you're making fun of the atheists you anger or the christians you parody. Unfortunately this guy's not doing it quite right.
Iztatepopotla
02-12-2005, 20:57
Reformed Huitzilopochtlist.
Bolol
02-12-2005, 20:59
Reformed Huitzilopochtlist.

Is that kinda like Peldaphargensmalsm?
Megaloria
02-12-2005, 21:00
Oh, and my choice of course.

...


Unicron.
Iztatepopotla
02-12-2005, 21:02
Is that kinda like Peldaphargensmalsm?
If that means sacrificing prisoners of war to god Huitzilopochtli and eating their still warm hearts, then yes.
Market-State
02-12-2005, 21:05
What about no religion. I feel left out.

By the way, lets get a debate going about something.
Bogmihia
02-12-2005, 21:05
Why did you include in the poll both Catholic and Roman Catholic? They are the same thing.
Hoos Bandoland
02-12-2005, 21:06
When it's done right nobody can quite tell if you're making fun of the atheists you anger or the christians you parody. Unfortunately this guy's not doing it quite right.

Either way, it's just another stupid thread to get people arguing.
Zulfax
02-12-2005, 21:07
:rolleyes: he's obviously referring to the papal schism. Down with the anti-pope!
Megaloria
02-12-2005, 21:07
What about no religion. I feel left out.

By the way, lets get a debate going about something.

Alright, crowbar time!

Socks with Sandals, pro or con?
Market-State
02-12-2005, 21:07
Either way, it's just another stupid thread to get people arguing.

Let's start aguing! Pick a topic about religion.:mp5:
Market-State
02-12-2005, 21:09
Alright, crowbar time!

Socks with Sandals, pro or con?

Definitely no socks. Kinda defeats the purpose of sandals.

Anyway, what about religion--or lack thereof?
Argesia
02-12-2005, 21:09
Why did you include in the poll both Catholic and Roman Catholic? They are the same thing.
I doubt that the OP knows it, but he's actually right. They are not the same thing.
Iztatepopotla
02-12-2005, 21:10
Alright, crowbar time!

Socks with Sandals, pro or con?
Depends, how cold is it?
Safalra
02-12-2005, 21:10
Socks with Sandals, pro or con?
I don't think being fashionable is worth getting frostbite.
Bolol
02-12-2005, 21:10
Let's start aguing! Pick a topic about religion.:mp5:

No! NOOOO!

Do you realize the evil powers you are about to unleash?!
Solarea
02-12-2005, 21:10
Let's start aguing! Pick a topic about religion.:mp5:

I think that contrary to popular belief, our Dark Lord Loki shall emerge from Rägnarok unscathed and rule both Jotunheim and Midgard!
Drunk commies deleted
02-12-2005, 21:10
:rolleyes: he's obviously referring to the papal schism. Down with the anti-pope!
Leave Zlad out of this.
Market-State
02-12-2005, 21:11
No! NOOOO!

Do you realize the evil powers you are about to unleash?!

Hell yes, I'm ready.
Economic Associates
02-12-2005, 21:11
I'll take "Trolls" for two hundred, Alex.

Celeberty Jepardy strikes again. "I'll take The Rapist for 1000 Alex. Thats therapists........."
Zyxtel
02-12-2005, 21:11
I see that I am still a christian, even though I thought I was a militant athiest all these years.:rolleyes:
Market-State
02-12-2005, 21:15
I see that I am still a christian, even though I thought I was a militant athiest all these years.:rolleyes:

Let's hear it for militant atheism. :p

Anyone want to try to convince us of the error of our ways?

COME ON! Someone, please do.
[NS]Simonist
02-12-2005, 21:15
I see that I am still a christian, even though I thought I was a militant athiest all these years.:rolleyes:
Next step is to steal a few Bibles out of hotel rooms.

(That must be the reason the Bible is the number one shoplifted book, come to think of it.....this guy's "enlightenment")
Safalra
02-12-2005, 21:15
I think that contrary to popular belief, our Dark Lord Loki shall emerge from Rägnarok unscathed and rule both Jotunheim and Midgard!
I think that's one of the most cultured things I've ever heard in NSGeneral. *offers Solarea a toffee*
Hoos Bandoland
02-12-2005, 21:15
Let's start aguing! Pick a topic about religion.:mp5:

No thank you. I've learned not to get sucked into that particular quagmire. Besides, no one on this site is neutral on the issue, although the reasoning for their particular stand pro or con is almost always nauseatingly insipid. Plus they won't change their minds even if God (or non-God) came down and slapped them in the face, so what's the point?
Aryavartha
02-12-2005, 21:16
The title of this should be "Christians, what is your denomination?"

Seconded.
Megaloria
02-12-2005, 21:16
I think that contrary to popular belief, our Dark Lord Loki shall emerge from Rägnarok unscathed and rule both Jotunheim and Midgard!

Over my djead bjody!
Market-State
02-12-2005, 21:17
No thank you. I've learned not to get sucked into that particular quagmire. Besides, no one on this site is neutral on the issue, although the reasoning for their particular stand pro or con is almost always nauseatingly insipid. Plus they won't change their minds even if God (or non-God) came down and slapped them in the face, so what's the point?

To have fun destroying other people's ideas and coming up with counterthoughts to theirs.
[NS]Simonist
02-12-2005, 21:18
No thank you. I've learned not to get sucked into that particular quagmire. Besides, no one on this site is neutral on the issue, although the reasoning for their particular stand pro or con is almost always nauseatingly insipid. Plus they won't change their minds even if God (or non-God) came down and slapped them in the face, so what's the point?
Agreed. I'm possibly the most neutral they come (on the religious side) just because I only give a damn about somebody's beliefs if they're judging me on mine....or, in this case, if they're making the group to which I belong look like ass-monkeys and I feel the need to defend the rest of us....but even I would be unlikely to change my mind (or my faith), no matter how compelling an athiest can be on the issue. All I'll do is nod and say "Agree to disagree, then".
Bolol
02-12-2005, 21:19
Celeberty Jeopardy strikes again. "I'll take The Rapist for 1000 Alex. Thats therapists........."

Ursula Anders...Kathrine Demure and Charro...twice!

That's foreign FLICKS, Mr. Connery!
Bogmihia
02-12-2005, 21:19
I doubt that the OP knows it, but he's actually right. They are not the same thing.
How come? Maybe Roman Catholics excludes the eastern rites in communion with Rome, while Catholic includes all the people recognising the pope's authority?
Market-State
02-12-2005, 21:19
Simonist']Agreed. I'm possibly the most neutral they come (on the religious side) just because I only give a damn about somebody's beliefs if they're judging me on mine....or, in this case, if they're making the group to which I belong look like ass-monkeys and I feel the need to defend the rest of us....but even I would be unlikely to change my mind (or my faith), no matter how compelling an athiest can be on the issue. All I'll do is nod and say "Agree to disagree, then".

Come on, stick me with your best one-liner in defense of god.
[NS]Simonist
02-12-2005, 21:21
Come on, stick me with your best one-liner in defense of god.
I'd rather not, as I don't believe that faith or religion are something you can force somebody into or out of. Baiting doesn't work on everybody, get used to it.
Celtlund
02-12-2005, 21:21
Please explain the difference between Catholic and Roman Catholic. Thank you
Solarea
02-12-2005, 21:22
I think that's one of the most cultured things I've ever heard in NSGeneral. *offers Solarea a toffee*

Why, thank you!

But, really, what's supposed to happen to Valhalla after Ragnarok?
Argesia
02-12-2005, 21:25
How come? Maybe Roman Catholics excludes the eastern rites in communion with Rome, while Catholic includes all the people recognising the pope's authority?
No, Catholics may also be those who do not recognize the pope's authority, like Old Catholics and Armenians. ("Catholic" is also in the nomenclature of Eastern Orthodox and Lutheran Churches, but that doesn't matter as much. Also, I don't know if "Roman" excludes "Greek" Catholics on principle.)

In short: not all Catholics are Roman Catholics, but all Roman Catholics are Catholics.
Safalra
02-12-2005, 21:26
Please explain the difference between Catholic and Roman Catholic. Thank you
My local primary school changed its name from Queensway Roman Catholic Primary School to Queensway Catholic Primary School, and when I asked them they said there was no difference.
[NS]Simonist
02-12-2005, 21:26
Please explain the difference between Catholic and Roman Catholic. Thank you
This (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11329a.htm) covers the Old Catholic Church (also known as Orthodox by members), which divided from Rome early on and refused many of our Saints and rituals.
Karte Blanche
02-12-2005, 21:27
Simonist']I only give a damn about somebody's beliefs if they're judging me on mine....
I find that my main issue with religion is that that seems to be the case with most of them. "Believe this or go to hell." Not so much the "If you do good, treat people well, and are an all-around 'nice guy', then you get let into the pearly gates." I don't know if you live by your own rules or what denomination of Christianity you are, but from my experience (though, I do live in Utah with all those whacked out Mormons) most of them put themselves on a pedastal, and if you are different, good riddance to ya.
Sounds slightly one sided to me.... "It's stupid for you to judge me, but not for me to judge you."

Hm.... that is probably just a stupid, long, diffuse paragraph :rolleyes:
Miscreance
02-12-2005, 21:28
Z0mG iTz aLL aBu0t JEBUS!!1 :headbang:
Antebellum South
02-12-2005, 21:28
Simonist']This (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11329a.htm) covers the Old Catholic Church (also known as Orthodox by members), which divided from Rome early on and refused many of our Saints and rituals.
In the English language the Old Catholic Church refers mainly to the churches in communion with the schismatic diocese of Utrecht which is a western church that split from Rome in the 1500s.
Hoos Bandoland
02-12-2005, 21:29
Come on, stick me with your best one-liner in defense of god.

This isn't a defense of God, but ...

If he does indeed exist, no amount of naysaying will make him go away.

If he doesn't exist, no amount of belief will cause him to come into being.
Megaloria
02-12-2005, 21:30
This isn't a defense of God, but ...

If he does indeed exist, no amount of naysaying will make him go away.

If he doesn't exist, no amount of belief will cause him to come into being.

When you come down to it, everything is absolutely asolutes.
Hoos Bandoland
02-12-2005, 21:31
When you come down to it, everything is absolutely asolutes.

Exactly. Something either is, or it isn't. ;)
Turquoise Days
02-12-2005, 21:32
Come on, stick me with your best one-liner in defense of god.
Jesus is coming. Look busy.



That was the best I could come up with (ok steal).
[NS]Simonist
02-12-2005, 21:32
I find that my main issue with religion is that that seems to be the case with most of them. "Believe this or go to hell." Not so much the "If you do good, treat people well, and are an all-around 'nice guy', then you get let into the pearly gates." I don't know if you live by your own rules or what denomination of Christianity you are, but from my experience (though, I do live in Utah with all those whacked out Mormons) most of them put themselves on a pedastal, and if you are different, good riddance to ya.
Sounds slightly one sided to me.... "It's stupid for you to judge me, but not for me to judge you."

Hm.... that is probably just a stupid, long, diffuse paragraph :rolleyes:
I'm actually from a large Catholic family (that's what you get with the Irish background....lots of kids and all of 'em Catholic), but in my part of the Midwest we pretty much break from the 'Bible Belt' mentality and are much more accepting. Overall the Catholics of America and a few European nations are much more socially progressive, and therefore accepting, than the College of Cardinals, because, well.....the Cardinals are old. However, progress is being made in the Church as a whole, whether or not outsiders will notice. Usually, though, I don't bother with peoples' stereotypes, unless they try to wrongfully apply those stereotypes to me....people will believe the worst of what they hear, unless they have reason not to.
Miscreance
02-12-2005, 21:33
Jesus is coming. Look busy.



That was the best I could come up with (ok steal).

JESUS IS COMING! GRAB A TISSUE!:gundge:
Yurka
02-12-2005, 21:36
I am Buddhist. I am also the leader of Hedo-Finnism.:D

*throws rocks*
Zyxtel
02-12-2005, 21:37
Whats white and rains from the sky?
The coming of the lord.
N Y C
02-12-2005, 21:42
Jewish and proud!
Karte Blanche
02-12-2005, 21:44
This isn't a defense of God, but ...

If he does indeed exist, no amount of naysaying will make him go away.

If he doesn't exist, no amount of belief will cause him to come into being.
Hahaha, that's true, but if god does exist, why should some sort of "higher power" have that kind of control over our lives? And, if I may get serious, if there are all these different followers of god that say "God doesn't like this, god doesn't like that" why the HELL did god even waste his goddam time making it?
Karte Blanche
02-12-2005, 21:47
Originally from N Y C: Jewish and proud!

Aye, my family is Jewish, but I don't follow or believe. But I think that Judaism is more sensible than many religions (with the exception of many eastern religions that don't exactly revolve around god).
Dehny
02-12-2005, 21:47
one reason democracy doesnt work,
Kamsaki
02-12-2005, 21:52
Simonist']Next step is to steal a few Bibles out of hotel rooms.

(That must be the reason the Bible is the number one shoplifted book, come to think of it.....this guy's "enlightenment")
Nah, it's just because it's a hotel room. Seriously, the places are a complete den of evil. The number of people caught drugging with hookers in hotel rooms is crazy. Plus, where else in the world do you go in and make it the first thing you do to steal abso-frikkin-lutely everything in sight?

*Bonus points if you guess the reference*
Adelphoi
02-12-2005, 22:01
The problem with me is that I'm a Christian, yet I don't see Christianity, in its truest essence and most basic, as a religion. Contrariwise, I see it as a personal relationship with God whereas religion is the '8 easy steps to get to heaven,' which it isn't in my opinion.
Turquoise Days
02-12-2005, 22:03
JESUS IS COMING! GRAB A TISSUE!:gundge:
Errrghhh
Puddytat
02-12-2005, 22:06
Let's hear it for militant atheism. :p

Anyone want to try to convince us of the error of our ways?

COME ON! Someone, please do.

I know all of these years wen the poor deluded souls learned to Ph33rM3 and now I find my lart as become impotent all of a sudden I get dropped from Atheist Revolutionary to Christian Evangelist (oooh I'll put te HMX down and pick up a tabourine)

BTW des Loyal Retard ever stick around or does he just come in as Drunk Commies or err whoever...
N Y C
02-12-2005, 22:10
Aye, my family is Jewish, but I don't follow or believe. But I think that Judaism is more sensible than many religions (with the exception of many eastern religions that don't exactly revolve around god).
I'm very reform, I just celebrate the important holidays. I feel strongly that I'm CULTURALLY a jew, but I don't believe in god.
[NS]Simonist
02-12-2005, 22:11
I know all of these years wen the poor deluded souls learned to Ph33rM3 and now I find my lart as become impotent all of a sudden I get dropped from Atheist Revolutionary to Christian Evangelist (oooh I'll put te HMX down and pick up a tabourine)

BTW des Loyal Retard ever stick around or does he just come in as Drunk Commies or err whoever...
I sincerely doubt it's Drunken Commies this time around. My original account was kicking in the good ol' days of Jesussaves, and this is far below DCD's comprehension. And no, LC does not stick around, if you take into account the 8-post history (or, indeed, view the 8-post history), it's a clear indication that he's merely trolling. In fact, this is probably the first thread that's come to anything (though it's probably not what he wanted) before being locked and him being told to cut the trolling.
The Noble Men
02-12-2005, 22:22
But I think that Judaism is more sensible than many religions (with the exception of many eastern religions that don't exactly revolve around god).

Any reason why? Cause I'm inclined to disagree.

I'm not too keen on any religion that encourages penile mutilation of small babies.
Desperate Measures
02-12-2005, 22:42
Religious affiliation
I hold you as my own personal false prophet. You are the one true UnGod.
Qwystyria
02-12-2005, 23:10
I'm a presbyterian. I feel left out. There was no option for me. I mean, the freakin' mormons got a choice, but I got stuck in "other".

The problem with me is that I'm a Christian, yet I don't see Christianity, in its truest essence and most basic, as a religion. Contrariwise, I see it as a personal relationship with God whereas religion is the '8 easy steps to get to heaven,' which it isn't in my opinion.

I could go with that. The whole external religion thing is largely farsical fronts people put on to look good in front of other people. IMO usually it makes them look fake instead of good. Internal religion is between you and God, and that reflects onto your outside.
Liskeinland
02-12-2005, 23:16
I could go with that. The whole external religion thing is largely farsical fronts people put on to look good in front of other people. IMO usually it makes them look fake instead of good. Internal religion is between you and God, and that reflects onto your outside. Jesus had something to say about that in Matthew - pertaining to the Pharisees. "Go into your room, and pray quietly." :)

Catholic here. I just got an email from a friend telling me that I've been twisted by the Catholic abomination. That rather surprised me.:eek:
Liskeinland
02-12-2005, 23:17
Argh, WTF? I went for "Catholic" and then found out that he had Roman Catholic there as well. Whort? "Catholic" just means universal - it covers the entire Christian church.:rolleyes:
Cluichstan
02-12-2005, 23:17
I pray at the Church of the Blessed Chuck Norris.
Big Jim P
02-12-2005, 23:29
I pray at the Church of the Blessed Chuck Norris.

I need to look into this church. After all Chuck Norris did defeat undestroyable evil in "Silent Rage":D
Eichen
02-12-2005, 23:46
I can be accurately described as both an atheist, and Buddhist.
Willamena
02-12-2005, 23:52
Non-Christian.
GoodThoughts
02-12-2005, 23:59
Well, since others are giving non-christian answers so will I. Baha'i the newest revealed religion.
Randomlittleisland
03-12-2005, 00:07
Atheist

I'll vote for all the options so they'll cancel each other out.:)
Soviet Haaregrad
03-12-2005, 00:11
I don't got one. ;)
Amarnaiy
03-12-2005, 00:18
Episcopalian.
Keruvalia
03-12-2005, 00:39
Religious affiliation

Not yours.
Super-power
03-12-2005, 00:45
Reeeal open-minded, TLC!
Zilam
03-12-2005, 01:05
Well I attend a free will baptist church. So I guess my denom. is free will baptist
Dakini
03-12-2005, 01:25
None, so I voted for all.
Take that, Loyal Christians.
Europa Maxima
03-12-2005, 01:57
Wow, so imagine if you aren't Christian...why, is that even possible? :eek:

The options in this poll would have you thinking so. :rolleyes: I am loosely Christian, as in I accept that Jesus may indeed have existed and I believe in the ideas he propagated, yet I reject strict doctrinal belief in Christianity, as do I any attempts to personify God as a deity. I am also somewhat pagan, yet not in terms of religious belief.
The Loyal Christians
03-12-2005, 23:57
You all just have to relize that non-christians don't matter in this world, and they sure as hell won't matter in the the next life time because us christians will be in Heaven and the rest will burn in Hell.
GoodThoughts
04-12-2005, 00:39
You all just have to relize that non-christians don't matter in this world, and they sure as hell won't matter in the the next life time because us christians will be in Heaven and the rest will burn in Hell.

The immortality of the spirit is mentioned in the Holy Books; it is the fundamental basis of the divine religions. Now punishments and rewards are said to be of two kinds. Firstly, the rewards and punishments of this life; secondly, those of the other world. But the paradise and hell of existence are found in all the worlds of God, whether in this world or in the spiritual heavenly worlds. Gaining these rewards is the gaining of eternal life. That is why Christ said, "Act in such a way that you may find eternal life, and that you may be born of water and the spirit, so that you may enter into the Kingdom."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 323)
Sel Appa
04-12-2005, 00:49
Push poll!!! Boo! Let's tar and feather him...
[NS]The-Republic
04-12-2005, 00:51
You all just have to relize that non-christians don't matter in this world, and they sure as hell won't matter in the the next life time because us christians will be in Heaven and the rest will burn in Hell.
Really? What about the Jews? God made a covenant with Abraham saying that his descendants (wait... that includes Muslims too!) would be blessed forever, and how can blessed people go to Hell?

If you're gonna be a Bible-thumper, at least read the Bible first.
Swilatia
04-12-2005, 01:21
where's the "Atheist" choice?
[NS]Simonist
04-12-2005, 03:33
You all just have to relize that non-christians don't matter in this world, and they sure as hell won't matter in the the next life time because us christians will be in Heaven and the rest will burn in Hell.
If you were actually a devout Christian and believed all the Book told you to believe, you wouldn't be ignorant enough to use the reference to "the next lifetime". There IS no next lifetime. There's life, then there's eternity.

God, please, how many Christians DON'T know that? You're failing your faith by leaps and bounds.
The Chinese Republics
04-12-2005, 03:43
Religious affiliationWow, Christianity is the only religion in the world?!? Geez... go to school buddy!
Aust
07-12-2005, 21:12
Blood Sucking Satanist.
Hata-alla
07-12-2005, 21:29
This thread=Hilarously Stupid

Kinda like the "George Bush, worst disaster to hit USA"-poll where you had yes and yes.

I'm gonna start one my own.

* Atheist
* What's its name when you're not sure... Agnostic
* Satanic
* Devil-Worshipper
* Pagan
* Vampirism
* Goth
* Hates Religion
Mentholyptus
07-12-2005, 21:42
Religious affiliation
Pastafarian.