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COMMENTARY: Perfect example of an organization originally set up to address legitimate issues being taken over by lunatics. This sort of approach is just plain wrong! :(


PETA Tells Kids to Run From Daddy (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176739,00.html)


Friday, November 25, 2005

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, has begun a campaign to scare children into becoming vegetarians.

The group, which formed to stop animal testing of consumer products but made its name by attacking women in fur coats with fake blood, is producing comic books that portray fathers as homicidal maniacs.

The handout, titled "Your Daddy Kills Animals," features a grinning lunatic gutting a fish, and warns kids to keep their puppies and kittens away from Dad because he's "hooked on killing."

"PETA is trying as hard as it can to portray the ordinary angler as a demonic, sadistic, cruel killer. This is what PETA does — it paints caricatures of ordinary people to try to convince the rest of us that we shouldn't want to emulate them," said David Martosko, of the industry lobbying group Center for Consumer Freedom.

But PETA insists that its comic is not outlandish.

"The scientific facts are that fish feel pain in the same way as dogs and cats. It's no more acceptable to hook a fish through the mouth and drag them into your boat and slice them in half than it would be to do the exact same thing to a dog or a cat," said Bruce Friedrich, vegan campaign coordinator for PETA.

Publicity stunts are nothing new for PETA, which has run ads featuring naked women in cages and people dressed in animal suits warning about the dangers of eating meat. But some critics feel the kid-targeted campaign goes too far. [ DUH! ]

"This is traumatizing kids by the thousands. There's going to be long-term psychological damage from these kids being exposed to the material that PETA puts in front of them on a regular basis," Martosko said.

But, Friedrich countered, "They can certainly find stuff that is more in your face on the Internet, more in your face on Saturday morning cartoons. We don't need to shelter our kids quite that much."

The pamphlet follows a previous one that painted Mom as a "chicken killer." PETA claims its only goal is to reduce meat consumption by changing children's eating habits. Critics insist alienating children from their parents isn't in anyone's best interests — human or animal.

Hilarious. I would have loved having one of these to read as a kid.

Sigh

And PETA used to be cool.

Oh, wait...

*takes down PETA poster*

PETA is one of the best sources of comedic material in this era. Brilliant.

*takes down PETA poster*

Best you urinate on that poster, friend.

PETA is one of the best sources of comedic material in this era. Brilliant.
Um ... not quite the sort of response I expected, but meh! :p

Best you urinate on that poster, friend.
I think he meant you...


....Unless you're into that...:eek:

Best you urinate on that poster, friend.

i was going to use it as a place mat to make my turkey sandwhich, but that works too...

COMMENTARY: Perfect example of an organization originally set up to address legitimate issues being taken over by lunatics. This sort of approach is just plain wrong!
Legitimate problems? Bullshit. They’ve always been fucked up. This insanity is caused by the invalidity of their cause. They realize that there is no basis for their beliefs, so they flail around and pull shit out of their asses and try to scare people.

It's no secret PETA has been going crazy lately. Just a few months ago SETA (a college student version of PETA) held a protest portraying farm animals as African slaves.
The quote the PETA guy says reminds me of a John Boy and Billy skit with Mad Max (and anyone who's heard that knows what I'm talking about.) I think I'll listen to it right now to calm my anger.

Peta has a alleged mind? They have been irrational people sence the start.

PETA had a mind????? interesting
i hope that they get charged for being terrorists

i was going to use it as a place mat to make my turkey sandwhich, but that works too...

Turdunkin time.;)

I think he meant you...


....Unless you're into that...:eek:

What, so now I'm a PETA poster that's into watersports and scat?

Thanks, Col.

Legitimate problems? Bullshit. They’ve always been fucked up. This insanity is caused by the invalidity of their cause. They realize that there is no basis for their beliefs, so they flail around and pull shit out of their asses and try to scare people.

Now, now, there is a lot of validity in veganism.

Anyone else ever seen a PETA kids webcomic involving "Colonel Corn defeating the meaties in Texas!"?

Now, now, there is a lot of validity in veganism.
There's a lot of validity in eating whatever the fuck you want! We're on the top of the evolutionary food chain for a reason bitches! Let's enjoy it! *rocks out*

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Erm, dude, you seem awfully outraged/mad/ this smiley ":mad: " lately... :confused:

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There's a lot of validity in eating whatever the fuck you want! We're on the top of the evolutionary food chain for a reason bitches! Let's enjoy it! *rocks out*

Ahg, *sigh*

There's a lot of validity in eating whatever the fuck you want! We're on the top of the evolutionary food chain for a reason bitches! Let's enjoy it! *rocks out*

Not everyone is as callous to the suffering of animals as you are.

lol

I gotta get those! one day they will be worth monies!

Now, now, there is a lot of validity in veganism.

pfft, why be a vegan when you can have steak?

peta has never been legit. they are a bunch of pussies with too much time on their hands. thats why they go after rich women in fur coats instead of going to the bar and throwing paint on the bikers in leather.

they have always been lunatics without a cause and now they are just plain stupid

pfft, why be a vegan when you can have steak?

Why have steak when you can have peace of mind and a healthy vegetable?

Why have steak when you can have peace of mind and a healthy vegetable?

Peace of Mind is overrated.

Why have steak when you can have peace of mind and a healthy vegetable?

wheres the fun in that? :p pass me the A-1 sauce...

Not everyone is as callous to the suffering of animals as you are.
Callous? Suffering? They're losing! And they taste very good, and their skin keeps the wind away from me!

In fact, they don't just taste good, they taste...like...victory.

Did I mention my hands are calloused?

wheres the fun in that? :p

Someone's never played with a cucumber...

pass me the A-1 sauce...

Murderer.

its natural to eat other animals

dont u think it hurts a little more for an animal to be dragged down and killed by a lion then shot in the heart by me?

eating animals is natural, im helping them by combating overpopulation of certain species.

is there any argument that can disprove the fact that its natural to eat animals? and that we do it more humanely than virtually any other animal on the planet?

and one more thing, are u forgetting that we are also animals?

Did I mention my hands are calloused?

As will your colon be by all that animal flesh rotting inside it. :p

Someone's never played with a cucumber...



Only Fass...

As will your colon be by all that animal flesh rotting inside it. :p
But it is the rot of victory! :D

Fuck PETA.

This has been a Santa Barbaran post.

Not that I want to judge or anything, but it seems like most of the people posting are the kind that don't care about the fact that animals DO indeed feel. *shrugs* I don't think that's a good thing but everyone has their opinion. Being an ovo-lacto vegetarian since age five, which was prompted *ironically* by seeing my family go hunting, catch a deer and skin him on the kitchen table right in front of me, I know what PETA is trying to do. I don't always agree how they go about things, but at least I know that they are thoughtful and caring individuals with their hearts set on a good cause. So, how about we start respecting each other's opinions since we're probably not going to agree sometime in the near future...? And by the way, before you criticize people so harshly, try seeing things from THEIR point of view.

Peace,

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Someone's never played with a cucumber...



Murderer.
if i remember corectly murder is killing another HUMAN

Someone's never played with a cucumber...

indeed, i have not...



Murderer.

steak with a-1 is worth murder :D

its natural to eat other animals

It's also natural to cannibalise and kill the off-spring of your competitor. What is "natural" is not an automatic excuse for bad behaviour.

And, oh, it's as "natural," if not more so, to not eat other animals.

and one more thing, are u forgetting that we are also animals?

Throw morality out the window, people! We're animals, and who needs pesky things like a conscience and knowledge that things like murder, rape, cruelty and so on are wrong, when one can just say that. :rolleyes:

Fuck PETA.

This has been a Santa Barbaran post.

i give it an A. would have been an A+ if the text was a bright color :p

if i remember corectly murder is killing another HUMAN

If I remember correctly, parody and sarcasm aren't to be missed in such a manner as they have been by you.

Legitimate problems? Bullshit. They’ve always been fucked up. This insanity is caused by the invalidity of their cause. They realize that there is no basis for their beliefs, so they flail around and pull shit out of their asses and try to scare people.
Their original aims of reducing cruelty to animals in labratory tests is admirable. But somewhere along the line they decided to stop focusing on legitimate arguments and instead masterbate vigourosly over their own feelings of self hate...

Not that I want to judge or anything, but it seems like most of the people posting are the kind that don't care about the fact that animals DO indeed feel. *shrugs* I don't think that's a good thing but everyone has their opinion. Being an ovo-lacto vegetarian since age five, which was prompted *ironically* by seeing my family go hunting, catch a deer and skin him on the kitchen table right in front of me, I know what PETA is trying to do. I don't always agree how they go about things, but at least I know that they are thoughtful and caring individuals with their hearts set on a good cause. So, how about we start respecting each other's opinions since we're probably not going to agree sometime in the near future...? And by the way, before you criticize people so harshly, try seeing things from THEIR point of view.

Peace,

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Well, besides the fact that their comic is so outlandish, absurdist and strange (beyond that it doesn't benefit the discourse of the debate, much like so many of my posts, but my posts were made with humor, they make their comic with anger) that it makes me confused.

steak with a-1 is worth murder :D

Not to mention atherosclerotic plaques that make such wonderful crunchy sounds as you dissect the coronary vessels and aorta during the eventual autopsy. :)

It's also natural to cannibalise and kill the off-spring of your competitor. What is "natural" is not an automatic excuse for bad behaviour.

And, oh, it's as "natural," if not more so, to not eat other animals.



Throw morality out the window, people! We're animals, and who needs pesky things like a conscience and knowledge that things like murder, rape, cruelty and so on are wrong, when one can just say that. :rolleyes:
so let me get this right, you are comparing wearing fur to cannibalism and rape?
morally there is nothing wrong with animals because they would die anyways by natural predators if we didnt get them first.
no its not "as natural" for humans notto eat other animals. we are omnivores we eat both meat and plants. like bears. its natural for homo s. sapiens to hunt and forage for food not just one or the other.
this is what i do to deer :P:sniper:

its natural to eat other animals

dont u think it hurts a little more for an animal to be dragged down and killed by a lion then shot in the heart by me?

eating animals is natural, im helping them by combating overpopulation of certain species.

is there any argument that can disprove the fact that its natural to eat animals? and that we do it more humanely than virtually any other animal on the planet?

and one more thing, are u forgetting that we are also animals?

I do agree with you!!! Partially. While I do think that it is "natural" I also believe that we no longer have to rely on eating meat like early hunters way back in the day had to do to survive. Now, we have convenience stores where we have virtually anything we could want to eat. I mean, I know that you guys probably think it tastes good *I've forgotten what meat tastes like* but I think it's worth the sacrifice in order to prevent possible pain and suffering to these little guys. If it's a quick death though, and a person NEEDS to eat meat as a last resort, I totally understand!

just do a search for the words "peta" and "comic" on yahoo, google whatever to find ppl trying to mess up children

how could u possible support a organization that says "keep your doggies and kitties" away from your dad because "he's so hooked on killing defenseless animals they might be next"? that is obviously not trying to support there cause that is trying to cause serious psychological damage that could ruin a childs relationship with their father

Why have steak when you can have peace of mind and a healthy vegetable?
I we weren't mean to eat animals, then why are they made of meat? :D

Personally, I think that PETA HAS been losing a lot of its credibility certainly and no longer knows how to deal with animal problems. I mean, that comic is pretty crazy. I completely support their cause...but let's face it...that's not the way to do it. :(

so let me get this right, you are comparing wearing fur to cannibalism and rape?

No, I am showing you that what is "natural" is not what is right.

morally there is nothing wrong with animals because they would die anyways by natural predators if we didnt get them first.

Same thing about humans, really. If I didn't kill your baby, someone else would, so I should be excused in doing it.

no its not "as natural" for humans notto eat other animals. we are omnivores we eat both meat and plants. like bears. its natural for homo s. sapiens to hunt and forage for food not just one or the other.

We don't have to be omnivores. There's nothing preventing us from not eating meat. Except moral turpitude and laity.

this is what i do to deer :P:sniper:

Yup, claim to be an animal and have that excuse your vile behaviour, but then use a gun that that large brain of yours allows you to use, but never mind that the same large brain gives you a conscience.

Not to mention atherosclerotic plaques that make such wonderful crunchy sounds as you dissect the coronary vessels and aorta during the eventual autopsy. :)

at least the autopsy will be interesting :D

I we weren't mean to eat animals, then why are they made of meat? :D
Humans too are made of meat. So should we begin eating each other? :rolleyes: Some species of animals are canibals. Humans are so adaptable they can be anything.

at least the autopsy will be interesting :D

Hmm, now human liver and some nice chianti...

Yup, claim to be an animal and have that excuse your vile behaviour, but then use a gun that that large brain of yours allows you to use, but never mind that the same large brain gives you a conscience.
Very few people even know what a conscience is.

Were man unable to craft tools, I think humans would very likely be gone by now.

I we weren't mean to eat animals, then why are they made of meat? :D

As are men. *insert bad joke about man meat here*

Yup, claim to be an animal and have that excuse your vile behaviour, but then use a gun that that large brain of yours allows you to use, but never mind that the same large brain gives you a conscience.
yup ur right i have a conscience that says there is nothing wrong with killing an animal

Humans too are made of meat. So should we begin eating each other? :rolleyes: Some species of animals are canibals. Humans are so adaptable they can be anything.
I'll eat anything, as long as it's cooked right. Hell, I'm gonna eat the neighbors damn dog if they keep tying the yelping little motherfucker out all night! :D

Humans too are made of meat. So should we begin eating each other? :rolleyes: Some species of animals are canibals. Humans are so adaptable they can be anything.

well you know, ive always said ill try anything once...

As are men. *insert bad joke about man meat here*
*pukes in my mouth a little bit*

Their original aims of reducing cruelty to animals in labratory tests is admirable.
No it isn’t. It gets in the way of product testing and the advancement of medical science.

Humans too are made of meat. So should we begin eating each other? :rolleyes: Some species of animals are canibals. Humans are so adaptable they can be anything.
well human diets are so bad that you would have to cook it to well done to be able to eat it without getting sick, and we all know a burnt steak tastes bad whether its made of human or venison

just wanted to let u all know i heard something about human flavored tofu the other day, just wanted to let u guys know that if u really want to try human legally this is the closest u can get, unless u cook part of urself, which im not recommending

*pukes in my mouth a little bit*

In your mouth, that probably makes little difference.

No it isn’t. It gets in the way of product testing and the advancement of medical science.

right. *rubes laundry detergent in a bunnies eyes* and how did that feel little rabbit?

yup ur right i have a conscience that says there is nothing wrong with killing an animal

Again, some of us are better people than you in that respect.

In your mouth, that probably makes little difference.
I think were all aware of who puts what in there mouth, Fass. Your not one to talk! ;)

As will your colon be by all that animal flesh rotting inside it. :p

You do know that that fat is untrue right? Meat does not rott in your colon. Your coming on the board claiming false rumors and spreading pussy propaganda.

Animals eat meat, meat is FULL of protein which is a needed nutrient to build muscle and maintain a healthy body. Try doing a bulking workout plan as a vegan. It's part of life man. Stop being such a panzy ass and get over it.

Meat and grown products are both needed to keep a healthy body, not just one of the two groups.

Again, some of us are better people than you in that respect.
You would be surprised how far some people can go. I once encountered a person who said the only reason he'd hesitate riding down an animal would be to avoid getting his tires dirty. :rolleyes:

I think were all aware of who puts what in there mouth, Fass. Your not one to talk! ;)

My mouth needs to be quite a hygenic place for people to want to put their genitals there, while on the other hand the things that come out of your mouth put your oral abilities into question.

Again, some of us are better people than you in that respect.
If by "better people" you mean egotistical, hard headed, opinionated crybabies, then I agree! :D

Again, some of us are better people than you in that respect.
i dont see how u can claim some people are better than others because of different views. i had not insulted you to this point and then you come in with that. this was a nice civil discussion. so maybe im a better person because i believe that eating animals is ok. so is someone who disagrees with you about anything a worse person than you? or is it that you get to decide who are good people without knowing them or anything about them? please dont respond to this because i know the kind of crap that u would say

You would be surprised how far some people can go. I once encountered a person who said the only reason he'd hesitate riding down an animal would be to avoid getting his tires dirty. :rolleyes:

The moral lassitude of "people" does not come as a suprise to me.

If by "better people" you mean egotistical, hard headed, opinionated crybabies, then I agree! :D

I don't.

My mouth needs to be quite a hygenic place for people to want to put their genitals there, while on the other hand the things that come out of your mouth put your oral abilities into question.
Judging from your personality, I'm assuming your not too picky on whose genitals go in there , so I'm gonna assume a few of them probably needed a good washing they never got.

You would be surprised how far some people can go. I once encountered a person who said the only reason he'd hesitate riding down an animal would be to avoid getting his tires dirty. :rolleyes:
i avoid anything larger than a large cat, something bigger can do quite a bit of damage to your front end, plus you have to go to the trouble of washing it off and everything with is just a pain.

please dont respond to this

Okidoki. Wasn't worth a response anyway, by the by.

i dont see how u can claim some people are better than others because of different views. i had not insulted you to this point and then you come in with that. this was a nice civil discussion. so maybe im a better person because i believe that eating animals is ok. so is someone who disagrees with you about anything a worse person than you? or is it that you get to decide who are good people without knowing them or anything about them? please dont respond to this because i know the kind of crap that u would say
Don't sweat it. Fass think's he is a superior person because he's gay and comes from the land of meatballs.

right. *rubes laundry detergent in a bunnies eyes* and how did that feel little rabbit?
What if the detergent has an agent in it that might cause people to go blind? The company has to test it somehow and inform the consumer or else they will be held liable.

i avoid anything larger than a large cat, something bigger can do quite a bit of damage to your front end, plus you have to go to the trouble of washing it off and everything with is just a pain.
Hmm you would be quite safe in a jungle...I heard tigers are quite fussy about dirtying their teeth with rotten flesh.

Judging from your personality, I'm assuming your not too picky on whose genitals go in there , so I'm gonna assume a few of them probably needed a good washing they never got.

Such luck that you're terrible at judging personality. So terrible at that, in fact, you think you can do so on an Internet forum.

My mouth needs to be quite a hygenic place for people to want to put their genitals there, while on the other hand the things that come out of your mouth put your oral abilities into question.
An advantage of being gay :p

Don't sweat it. Fass think's he is a superior person because he's gay and comes from the land of meatballs.

The former is right, the latter not. I loathe nationalism.

Now, now, there is a lot of validity in veganism.

One must be careful with diet such as that to get all the nutrition requirements. While it works for some, most do not have the time and care it take to keep healthy as a vegan. All vegans I have talked to must take suppliments to get thier qoute of nutrients, even alot of these are made from animal protiens. The other pitfall is that suppliments are not regulated by the FDA. Not to mention, there have been many issues with vegan mothers not getting what they need durring pregnancy causing underdeveloped children. Keeping young children on this diet is very dangerous and has resulted in many deaths. While being a vegan works for some it must be done very carefully. All things consitered it is not the miracle diet animal rights groups claim it is. I for one will ensure will not put a animal's heath ahead of my own.

Some links to back up what I wrote...

Children who have died as a result of a vegan diet
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=26&story_id=14080&n
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ct/20051107/cr_ct/vegancoupleclearedinbabysdeathbutguiltyofchildneglect

Vegan health risks, While this does show some benefits, it shows the maticulous planning it takes to maintain the diet and the results of mis-managing the diet.
http://www.veganhealthstudy.org/ClinicalSummary.html

FDA's take on suppliments
http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/supplmnt.html

B-12's source
http://www.webvitamins.com/nutrient.aspx?ID=1603

An advantage of being gay :p

Everything with it is an advantage. :)

What if the detergent has an agent in it that might cause people to go blind? The company has to test it somehow and inform the consumer or else they will be held liable.

i agree. but i also agree in reducing the amount of testing. why should the said detergent be rubbed into the eyes of 100 animals instead of 50, 40, 30 or whatever?

Don't sweat it. Fass think's he is a superior person because he's gay and comes from the land of meatballs.
I wonder, do you, as a heterosexual, see yourself as superior?

The former is right, the latter not. I loathe nationalism.
Sure Fass, keep telling yourself that! Just remember that next time you try comparing America and meatball land! ;)

Sure Fass, keep telling yourself that! Just remember that next time you try comparing America and meatball land! ;)
Comparing nations is not the same as nationalism.

There's a lot of validity in eating whatever the fuck you want! We're on the top of the evolutionary food chain for a reason bitches! Let's enjoy it! *rocks out*

Indeed. Because being "superior" means we should maltreat those beneath us.

i agree. but i also agree in reducing the amount of testing. why should the said detergent be rubbed into the eyes of 100 animals instead of 50, 40, 30 or whatever?
Hey, if the company wants to blow money on a hundred fucking rabbits, let them.

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And if I were to post all the obesity figures and deaths caused by a poorly managed carnivorous diet, hmm? Everyone needs to watch their diet. That vegans have to do so invalidates nothing.

Comparing nations is not the same as nationalism.

Yeah, all and all it just boils down to which is longer....

I wonder, do you, as a heterosexual, see yourself as superior?
Nope, not a bit. I'm superior because I'm an American! :D

Sure Fass, keep telling yourself that! Just remember that next time you try comparing America and meatball land! ;)

Comparison is nationalism?

And if I were to post all the obesity figures and deaths caused by a poorly managed carnivorous diet, hmm? Everyone needs to watch their diet. That vegans have to do so invalidates nothing.

C'mon Fass, atleast refute what I wrote. Besides, a omnivorous diet is much easier to maintain. Only a idiot would follow a totally carnivorous diet as that would be as difficult to maintain as a vegan one.

Comparison time !

Suppose extremely advanced extra-terrestials (or angels if you prefer that[1]) land on planet earth. They are far beyond us in every aspect, the works of our greatest minds to them are like the gurgling of a baby would be to us. They do not consider us intelligent or sentient, but do notice we can suffer pain.

These aliens/angels discover that humans are quite tasty snacks. Are they morally right to start a bio-industry like corporation to breed us ? Are they morally right to hunt us for sport and fun ?

[1] Or the machines from the matrix movies. The possibilities are endless ;)

Hey, if the company wants to blow money on a hundred fucking rabbits, let them.

just seems a bit excessive

C'mon Fass, atleast refute what I wrote.

What is there to refute? That a poorly managed vegan diet can be dangerous? Well, duh!

Besides, a omnivorous diet is much easier to maintain.

Tell that to the growing numbers of overweight and obese people in the world.

Only a idiot would follow a totally carnivorous diet as that would be as difficult to maintain as a vegan one.

And an omnivorous one, apparently.

Are they morally right to start a bio-industry like corporation to breed us ? Are they morally right to hunt us for sport and fun ?

It would suck, but I wouldn't blame them a bit. Them humans is tasty! :D

And an omnivorous one, apparently.
Omnivorous ones all the more so, because they require precise balancing of nutrients to be truly of any worth. Different foods from different groups have nutrients in varying quantities.

It would suck, but I wouldn't blame them a bit. Them humans is tasty! :D
Then enjoy your meat ;) I just like people to be consistent :)

Tell that to the growing numbers of overweight and obese people in the world..
That's BS and you know it, Fass. The growing problem with obesity is due to the over eating and laziness of a spoiled generation.

Then enjoy your meat ;) I just like people to be consistent :)
Well, thank you! If anything, I'm consistent! ;)

That's BS and you know it, Fass. The growing problem with obesity is due to the over eating and laziness of a spoiled generation.

That is seperate from their mismanaged diets? What?

That's BS and you know it, Fass. The growing problem with obesity is due to the over eating and laziness of a spoiled generation.

well its hard for people not to be overweight when they sacrifice healthy meals for wendy's, mcds' or some other fast food place...

That is seperate from their mismanaged diets? What?
My point is that an Omnivore's diet is pretty easy to maintain. I'm an omnivore, and I don't have the slightest problem maintaining a healthy diet. I eat meat, vegatables, breads, and dairy, and it's as easy as cooking a meal.

Most fat people ar fat because they eat Twinkies and Ho Hos for breakfast, and sit on the couch all day watching tv, or sit in front of a computer for 16 hours straight.

It has nothing to do with an omnivorous diet.

My point is that an Omnivore's diet is pretty easy to maintain. I'm an omnivore, and I don't have the slightest problem maintaining a healthy diet. I eat meat, vegatables, breads, and dairy, and it's as easy as cooking a meal.
You must be joking. Omnivorous meals require precise balancing of nutrients, as I said earlier. For instance, if you eat bread, and rice, and potatoes, you are likely to suffer from a starch overdose. Likewise, many foods share high amounts of certain nutrients and cannot be combined if to maintain a healthy diet.

You must be joking. Omnivorous meals require precise balancing of nutrients, as I said earlier. For instance, if you eat bread, and rice, and potatoes, you are likely to suffer from a starch overdose. Likewise, many foods share high amounts of certain nutrients and cannot be combined if to maintain a healthy diet.
It's pretty easy, dude. Just don't make a meal of bread, rice, and potatos. You act like it takes a Doctorate to learn how to make a healthy meal. :rolleyes:

Here's a good example. A steak dinner, with mashed potatos, greenbeans, garlic bread, and deviled eggs.

Next night, Spaghetti and meatballs, and some more garlic bread (garlic is very good for you)

Gee, real hard, that is.

My point is that an Omnivore's diet is pretty easy to maintain. I'm an omnivore, and I don't have the slightest problem maintaining a healthy diet. I eat meat, vegatables, breads, and dairy, and it's as easy as cooking a meal.

Most fat people ar fat because they eat Twinkies and Ho Hos for breakfast, and sit on the couch all day watching tv, or sit in front of a computer for 16 hours straight.

Again, their laziness is detached from their mismanaged diet in what sense? If it is so easy to maintain, why aren't they? I mean, something so easy should be no problem to lazy people, but apparently laziness among its followers excuses an omnivorous diet, but somehow is used as an argument against a vegan diet. There is the point - that you accept the argument when it comes to a vegan diet, but not when it comes to an omnivorous one.

It's pretty easy, dude. Just don't make a meal of bread, rice, and potatos. You act like it takes a Doctorate to learn how to make a healthy meal. :rolleyes:

Here's a good example. A steak dinner, with mashed potatos, greenbeans, garlic bread, and deviled eggs.

Next night, Spaghetti and meatballs, and some more garlic bread (garlic is very good for you)

Gee, real hard, that is.
Yet you would be surprised by how many people are ignorant of this.

There are few things as annoying as self-righteous, hypocritical moral-vegetarians preaching to us barbaric, murdering meat-eaters. PETA is the worst of the worst. I could say more but it'd probably be considered flamebaiting.

Again, their laziness is detached from their mismanaged diet in what sense? If it is so easy to maintain, why aren't they? I mean, something so easy should be no problem to lazy people, but apparently laziness among its followers excuses an omnivorous diet, but somehow is used as an argument against a vegan diet. There is the point - that you accept the argument when it comes to a vegan diet, but not when it comes to an omnivorous one.
You claimed obesity as an effect of omnivorous diets. I shredded that theory by stating that eating meat has nothing to do with it, if you don't care whether you are healthy or not, and sit on your fat ass all day, then you will be fat.

Eating meat has NOTHING to do with that. Sit a vegan who doesn't balance his diet on his ass all day and he won't be very healthy either.

Yet you would be surprised by how many people are ignorant of this.
But that doesn't have anything to do with ease of diet, as much as it does of the ignorance of some people towards eating healthy. Soem people are stupid, but that doesn't negate the fact that it's very easy to eat a healthy omnivorous diet.

Legitimate problems? Bullshit. They’ve always been fucked up. This insanity is caused by the invalidity of their cause. They realize that there is no basis for their beliefs, so they flail around and pull shit out of their asses and try to scare people.

PETAs original mission is to plead for ethical treatmen of animals, not to crusade against meateaters.

An example of an underlying philosophy can be summarised by "causing unnessary suffering is bad, regardless of who the victim is". This concept has its advantages: you basicly disallow things like racism or discrimination based on gender, sexual orientation, religious beliefs and so on - all through one simple idea. "Downside" is that if you focus on the suffering instead of the nature of the indivuals involved you must also include animals if you believe they can suffer.

What you then get is the need to "weigh" things. "Does my need for nourishment/huntingpleasure make it necessary to make these animals suffer to this degree" ? As long as you can honestly say yes, enjoy your meat. If you consider the suffering too much, act against it.

You claimed obesity as an effect of omnivorous diets. I shredded that theory by stating that eating meat has nothing to do with it, if you don't care whether you are healthy or not, and sit on your fat ass all day, then you will be fat.

Eating meat has NOTHING to do with that. Sit a vegan who doesn't balance his diet on his ass all day and he won't be very healthy either.
Not really. Every action we take burns calories, even sleep. The lower your diet is in calories, the less there is to burn. Metabolism also comes into play.

You claimed obesity as an effect of omnivorous diets. I shredded that theory by stating that eating meat has nothing to do with it, if you don't care whether you are healthy or not, and sit on your fat ass all day, then you will be fat.

Eating meat has NOTHING to do with that. Sit a vegan who doesn't balance his diet on his ass all day and he won't be very healthy either.

Exactly my point. People who mismanage their diets aren't going to be healthy. The person that I was discussing this with before you meddled was using examples of lazy people mismanaging their vegan diet as somehow invalidating the vegan diet. I was using it back at him/her - that lazy people who mismanage an omnivorous diet are unhealthy, too - and that mismanaging one seems so easy to do, given obesity and morbidity and mortality figures. Now does the laziness invalidate the omnivorous diet? No.

The immorality of such does, though. :p

I've contacted a moderator in retaliation for all the rudeness and lack of judgement (to say the least). Just letting you know that if you post rude or otherwise vulgar remarks of bad taste, it will not go unnoticed.

You guys rock Fass & Europa Maxima! (glad to know you guys are for the animals!)

Exactly my point. People who mismanage their diets aren't going to be healthy. The person that I was discussing this with before you meddled was using examples of lazy people mismanaging their vegan diet as somehow invalidating the vegan diet. I was using it back at him/her - that lazy people who mismanage a omnivorous diet are unhealthy, too. Now does the laziness invalidate the omnivorous diet? No.

The immorality of such does, though. :p
Well, we agree with about the "laziness breeds unhealthiness" point, and the morality issue is something that must be dealt with on an individual basis, so for once, I believe we are done here, in general agreement, no? :D

Yes, and Fox doesn't distort its news at all.

I've contacted a moderator in retaliation for all the rudeness and lack of judgement (to say the least). Just letting you know that if you post rude or otherwise vulgar remarks of bad taste, it will not go unnoticed.

You guys rock Fass & Europa Maxima! (glad to know you guys are for the animals!)
Eat more meat, save the plants! :D

Luckily felines taste bad to humans...:rolleyes:

Yes, and Fox doesn't distort its news at all.
Cut down on the Kool-Aid kid! ;)

*glares at Fireantz* I believe you said you were done?

Well, we agree with about the "laziness breeds unhealthiness" point, and the morality issue is something that must be dealt with on an individual basis, so for once, I believe we are done here, in general agreement, no? :D

It seems so. I'm not one to force veganism on people - it's a choice they must make for themselves, and it seems like I will have to make someone in this thread disappointed by saying that I am not vegan myself. Just playing devil's advocate to show that there is indeed validity to veganism, contrary to what someone was claiming.

I've contacted a moderator in retaliation for all the rudeness and lack of judgement (to say the least). Just letting you know that if you post rude or otherwise vulgar remarks of bad taste, it will not go unnoticed.

You guys rock Fass & Europa Maxima! (glad to know you guys are for the animals!)

Maybe we should contact the mods for that Flame Bait you just threw out as a so called 'Warning' People have the right to hate PETA. If you don't like it provide a good counter point, debates can get rough, if you can't keep it up just leave.

Luckily felines taste bad to humans...:rolleyes:
Nah, I'd never eat a kitty cat! I like cats! Now baked Chihuahua, that's a different story! ;)

Just playing devil's advocate to show that there is indeed validity to veganism, contrary to what someone was claiming.
Always a great role to play :D Too bad people can't often separate one's opinion from ones argumentative.

It is much easier to mantain a ominiverous diet and our body does need proteins most easily found in meat but these days it is possibly to take supplements and also fat people normally gat fat from lack of exercise and snacking on mars bars, twinkies, donuts and deep fried chips non of which contain meat. All said though PETA's aim is an excellent one though how they are ettempting to achieve it is misguided and this sort of stunt lowers thier own credibility taking them further from achieving their aims and though I do love a nice juicy stek the treatment of some animals in labs farms and homes sickens me

Nah, I'd never eat a kitty cat! I like cats! Now baked Chihuahua, that's a different story! ;)
Astounding. You can't be all bad then :p They are the only animals, well aside from serpents, that I truly love.

I've contacted a moderator in retaliation for all the rudeness and lack of judgement (to say the least). Just letting you know that if you post rude or otherwise vulgar remarks of bad taste, it will not go unnoticed.

I hadn't noticed anything mod actionable in this thread, but I usually don't report threads when someone is mean to me anyway, so I may have well missed it. I just question your reporting of this thread, is all.

You guys rock Fass & Europa Maxima! (glad to know you guys are for the animals!)

I guess you're one of those to be disappointed I mentioned earlier. Here, have a fluffle anyway: :fluffle:

It seems so. I'm not one to force veganism on people - it's a choice they must make for themselves, and it seems like I will have to make someone in this thread disappointed by saying that I am not vegan myself. Just playing devil's advocate to show that there is indeed validity to veganism, contrary to what someone was claiming.
I don't mind Veganism as someones choice. It's actually a kinda noble thing to do. I just hate it when they lie and say that Veganism is SUPER healthy, and Omnivorism is SUPER unhealthy. I think anyone can be healthy if they eat smart and get off the couch!

And with that, I think I'll take a walk! ;)

fass how does being gay make you superior:confused:

Well, I can detect sarcasm and humour more easily it seems, for one.

I've contacted a moderator in retaliation for all the rudeness and lack of judgement (to say the least). Just letting you know that if you post rude or otherwise vulgar remarks of bad taste, it will not go unnoticed.

You guys rock Fass & Europa Maxima! (glad to know you guys are for the animals!)
Although I do not support cruelty to animals in the slightest, the only animals I truly like are felines and, to a degree, snakes (at a distance).

Well, I can detect sarcasm and humour more easily it seems, for one.
We seem to have an odd love for sarcasm. :p

Astounding. You can't be all bad then :p They are the only animals, well aside from serpents, that I truly love.
Nobody would ever guess I'm a cat person! :D
I have a black long-haired kitty (well, she's 8, but she's MY kitty) named Jasper. She's staying with my Mom for a few weeks, and I miss her very much! :(

Who woulda thunk it, huh? ;)


PS, I love serpents too! Used to have a 13 foot Burmese, but had to move and couldn't take it. Kinda scary to have Jasper and Bracelet (it was 8 inches long when I got it, and it would curl around my wrist) in the same house, but I was diligent, and the cage weighed about 600 pounds. (heavy duty)

:D Me likey fluffles!

In response to reporting me, go right ahead. It's not that I don't respect others' opinions but look back at some of the posts...they're not just unfriendly but just downright, intolerable and childish. *rolls eyes*

Nobody would ever guess I'm a cat person! :D
I have a black long-haired kitty (well, she's 8, but she's MY kitty) named Jasper. She's staying with my Mom for a few weeks, and I miss her very much! :(

Who woulda thunk it, huh? ;)


PS, I love serpents too! Used to have a 13 foot Burmese, but had to move and couldn't take it. Kinda scary to have Jasper and Bracelt (snake) in the same house, bit I was diligent, and the cage weighed about 600 pounds. (heavy duty)
Well currently I have no cats as we are not allowed to keep any on campus. I left my cat back home. I'll miss him, but time to move on I guess :p

Although I love serpents, I am not too sure about keeping one, no less a python. Especially not one above 15 feet (they are more than able to kill a man). That, and the fact that they themselves often exceed 400 lbs (larger varieties of anaconda).

PS: Usually people who like felines and serpents (both predators) have little love for other animals, mainly because their preferred animals are at the top of their food chain.

We seem to have an odd love for sarcasm. :p

The person who said it was the lowest form of humour was obviously being sarcastic. Too bad so many people miss that. ;)

The person who said it was the lowest form of humour was obviously being sarcastic. Too bad so many people miss that. ;)
Either that, or devoid of a sense of humour themselves. :p

Either that, or devoid of a sense of humour themselves. :p

Aye, 'tis an epidemic nowadays.

Aye, 'tis an epidemic nowadays.
They must lead pretty miserable lives though.

They must lead pretty miserable lives though.

And they question why gay people are superior. Hah! Serves them right.

Yes, the blinded cynics are unable of seeing the truth :p

Yes, the blinded cynics are unable of seeing the truth :p

Now, now, I'm a cynic. They obviously lack the clarity of the cynic to be regarded as such.

Now, now, I'm a cynic. They obviously lack the clarity of the cynic to be regarded as such.
True, one must earn the right to be a cynic. Shall we simply call them blind then?

True, one must earn the right to be a cynic. Shall we simply call them blind then?

I find "heterosexual" to be the ultimate put-down in such cases.

I find "heterosexual" to be the ultimate put-down in such cases.
Now now, be nice to the children :p Its not their fault that they were born that way, is it?

Now now, be nice to the children :p Its not their fault that they were born that way, is it?

I didn't say I didn't pity them.

I didn't say I didn't pity them.
At least you have some mercy left in you then :p

At least you have some mercy left in you then :p

Ah, that's the bleeding-heart social liberal in me.

Ah, that's the bleeding-heart social liberal in me.
Heh, something I am cursed with too :p

Heh, something I am cursed with too :p

They're lucky for that, I tell you. Imagine if we were rare? Oh, the shame and suffering those poor heterosexual children would be put through. Why, it's enough to make me clutch for my handkerchief.

They're lucky for that, I tell you. Imagine if we were rare? Oh, the shame and suffering those poor heterosexual children would be put through. Why, it's enough to make me clutch for my handkerchief.
Think not too hard about it. No need to waste your tears ;)

Why is it in every thread Fass posts in the topic becomes Fass and how gay he is? It gets tiring. It's like black people who feel compelled to tell you how black they are every five seconds.

Think not too hard about it. No need to waste your tears ;)

No worries. I have plenty to go around.

Why is it in every thread Fass posts in the topic becomes Fass and how gay he is? It gets tiring. It's like black people who feel compelled to tell you how black they are every five seconds.

If you'll notice, Fireantz mentioned it. How come Santa Barbara always fails to read threads?

If you'll notice, Fireantz mentioned it. How come Santa Barbara always fails to read threads?

Oh, so you didn't mention it at all too? I'm not concerned with who started it. My question was (and why can't you read hmm?):

Why is it in every thread Fass posts in the topic becomes Fass and how gay he is?

And frankly, if *I* hijacked a thread talking about how heterosexuals are superior to homosexuals, I'd get called out in a minute for being some kind of -ist. Why is it OK for you to do that?

If you'll notice, Fireantz mentioned it. How come Santa Barbara always fails to read threads?
Beyond that, its not as if I am an unwilling pawn in the conversation, as Santa Barbara seems to assume. :rolleyes:

And frankly, if *I* hijacked a thread talking about how heterosexuals are superior to homosexuals, I'd get called out in a minute for being some kind of -ist. Why is it OK for you to do that?
You do realise though that we are being sarcastic, right?

Oh, so you didn't mention it at all too? I'm not concerned with who started it. My question was (and why can't you read hmm?):

He mentioned it, I let it go. Then someone asked why I find gay people superior, in an apparent failure to detect sarcasm and humour. This is a continuation of the joke, driving it home into even that person's mind.

And frankly, if *I* hijacked a thread talking about how heterosexuals are superior to homosexuals, I'd get called out in a minute for being some kind of -ist. Why is it OK for you to do that?

Because when I do it, it's funny. When you do it, it becomes malicious and all genocidal. Oppressive and mean, even.

If theres one thing that I would do if I went to China for a trip, it is to try cooked cat, snake, and dog if its on the menu... All those PETA and Anti-Meat groups can go to heck.

Now lets all forget our quarrels with a nice bucket of fried chicken.

I love animals and would never intentionally harm most of them, but, you know whats great about militant vegans?

You can give them a rough shake, and their protien deprived little wispy bodies just cant handle the stress, and they usually fall down and weep.

Why is it in every thread Fass posts in the topic becomes Fass and how gay he is? It gets tiring. It's like black people who feel compelled to tell you how black they are every five seconds.
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Why have steak when you can have peace of mind and a healthy vegetable?

I can have peace of mind eating a steak, and healthy vegetables on the side of the plate.

I can have peace of mind eating a steak, and healthy vegetables on the side of the plate.

Denial is not peace of mind.

I'm not even reading all the stupidity to see how this took the gay twist from the original topic.

I dont care for the idea of PETA using subversive tactics to get their message accross to my children. If some of their propaganda finds its way into my children's hands, I will use PETA like tactics against them. I havent seen any evidence of their activities in my area, but it will cease to exist if they get my attention in that manner.

I dont care for the idea of PETA using subversive tactics to get their message accross to my children. If some of their propaganda finds its way into my children's hands, I will use PETA like tactics against them. I havent seen any evidence of their activities in my area, but it will cease to exist if they get my attention in that manner.

They must be shaking in their vegan boots.

COMMENTARY: Perfect example of an organization originally set up to address legitimate issues being taken over by lunatics. This sort of approach is just plain wrong! :(.....

They're morons, insane morons. They need to throw a pin at somebody.

The handout, titled "Your Daddy Kills Animals," features a grinning lunatic gutting a fish, and warns kids to keep their puppies and kittens away from Dad because he's "hooked on killing."
LOL!

Reminds me of the way I felt first time I saw my dad kill a rabbit.

I got over it. ;)

So, did PETA hire Jack Chick or something? That's a screwed up comic.

:D Me likey fluffles!

In response to reporting me, go right ahead. It's not that I don't respect others' opinions but look back at some of the posts...they're not just unfriendly but just downright, intolerable and childish. *rolls eyes*

That is certainly one thing I like here as opposed to the peta2 boards. Any opposing opinion is up for debate and needs to be defended. On the peta boards, all opposing opinions are deleted and the person posting is deemed a troll. Too bad, as there have been some very good points and well written points posed to peta members on that board that have been deleted. Guess thats how they keep thier sheep in line.

They must be shaking in their vegan boots.


I dont care what they're doing in whose boots. I live and let live til something becomes a problem for me. Then I deal with it in a way that suits me best.
My point is, I dont like the tactic of making sneaky appeals to my children. I wont tolerate anyone circumventing me to get their point across to my children. I'm living above board now, doing everything the right way, but I could easily write a detailed book on how to play dirty.

For informational purposes only, of course.

I don't take anything peta says seriously anymore. Because Peta is against medical testing of animals.

I dont care what they're doing in whose boots. I live and let live til something becomes a problem for me. Then I deal with it in a way that suits me best.
My point is, I dont like the tactic of making sneaky appeals to my children. I wont tolerate anyone circumventing me to get their point across to my children. I'm living above board now, doing everything the right way, but I could easily write a detailed book on how to play dirty.

Again, I am sure they have very little, if anything, to fear.

Again, I am sure they have very little, if anything, to fear.
As long as they don't step onto my property, no.

Again, I am sure they have very little, if anything, to fear.

Sure-as long as they keep to themselves.

Dont make an effort to annoy me, Fass.

Wow, PETA has sunk to the lowest level of hell. Now that adults aren't listening, they're tageting children. That's more pitiful than anything else.

I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and I eat meat now. I feel better, have more energy (thanks complex amino-acids!) and gained a much needed 25 lbs.
Being a vegetaian can be a good thing if you're fat, or concerned about animal suffering. I guess it's a nice thing to do.
But the fact is, like the TOOL song says, "Life feeds on life. This is necessary".

My point is, I dont like the tactic of making sneaky appeals to my children. I wont tolerate anyone circumventing me to get their point across to my children. I'm living above board now, doing everything the right way, but I could easily write a detailed book on how to play dirty.
[ cheers wildly ] I always knew there was some reason I liked you! :D

Sure-as long as they keep to themselves.

Dont make an effort to annoy me, Fass.
ROFLMFAO!!!!! Don't worry. Fass doesn't have to make "an effort." It comes naturally to him! :D

PETA wants people to become herbivores.
The majority of meat animals in the human diet are herbivores.

Soylent Green anyone?:D

[ cheers wildly ] I always knew there was some reason I liked you! :D

We likely have a lot in common.

PETA wants people to become herbivores.
The majority of meat animals in the human diet are herbivores.

Soylent Green anyone?:D

It's people! Soylent green is people!!

It's people! Soylent green is people!!

:eek: :D
I prefer free-range vegans myself.:p

Wasn't there a thread about this exact story a couple of weeks ago?

My, how I wish shooting PETA members on sight wasn't illegal, immoral, stupid and counter-productive.

Wasn't there a thread about this exact story a couple of weeks ago?

there is a PETA thread once every week...

there is a PETA thread once every week...

Yeah, I guess. But this is the same thread, basically. I suppose everyone loves a chance to prove their manhood by talking about how they want to beat up and/or shoot the crazy flavour of the month, though.

Yeah, I guess. But this is the same thread, basically. I suppose everyone loves a chance to prove their manhood by talking about how they want to beat up and/or shoot the crazy flavour of the month, though.

I don't beat up PETA people to prove my manhood. I do it because they put themselves in a position where it is legal for me to do so, and I find it amusing.

Sure-as long as they keep to themselves.

Dont make an effort to annoy me, Fass.

I don't need to make an effort, as Eut wrote. It's just funny to read all this "oh, I'll show them hell if they do this" when everyone knows with all probability that you won't do jack, except beat your chest like this on an Internet forum.

I don't beat up PETA people to prove my manhood. I do it because they put themselves in a position where it is legal for me to do so, and I find it amusing.

Suuuure. You can spin it however you like, but it's the same thing. Unpopular things or groups of people are just a great way for men (and women, why not) to enhance the size of their metaphorical penises in their own eyes and the eyes of their peers. Yeah, PETA are crazy at the moment, but the whole "I wish I could shoot them! I'm going to beat them up!" is the same as "Man, I'm not PC at all! PC is, like, so stupid. PC is responsible for all the ills of the world! Yeah, I'm not PC. That makes me cool and edgy."

Pfft. Right. We all just really need to get over it.

Suuuure. You can spin it however you like, but it's the same thing. Unpopular things or groups of people are just a great way for men (and women, why not) to enhance the size of their metaphorical penises in their own eyes and the eyes of their peers. Yeah, PETA are crazy at the moment, but the whole "I wish I could shoot them! I'm going to beat them up!" is the same as "Man, I'm not PC at all! PC is, like, so stupid. PC is responsible for all the ills of the world! Yeah, I'm not PC. That makes me cool and edgy."

Pfft. Right. We all just really need to get over it.

It's not that I wish I could beat them up. I've done it more than once. And been commended by the police for doing so.

I'm not cool and edgy. Far from it.

I don't need to make an effort, as Eut wrote. It's just funny to read all this "oh, I'll show them hell if they do this" when everyone knows with all probability that you won't do jack, except beat your chest like this on an Internet forum.

Maybe thats easy for you to believe,Fass-but you and I live in different worlds. You dont know me, what I've done or what I'm capable of.
I'm kinda surprised you'd make this assumption and even more so,chose to post it, as if you were the collective voice of my critics. Keep in mind, I'm not looking for your acceptance or approval, as they are of no value to me whatsoever, but I'm surprised you chose to mock my statements.
Maybe your more used to anonymous sparring with the teenagers of the forum. I'm long past that in age and life experience.

Wasn't there a thread about this exact story a couple of weeks ago?
Not that I know of, but if so I apologize. :(

I'm long past that in age and life experience.
Yeah ... you old fart! :D

Not that I know of, but if so I apologize. :(

Well, it's either the same story, or PETA are doing the same crazy thing again, which wouldn't be surprising. It's always amusing to see the local apes beat their chests (I owe you a cookie, Fass), though, and it's not like the same things don't get discussed over and over on NS General, anyway. Perish the thought! :p

Deep Kimichi: Yeah, I think you told that story before. You're like a big silverback who actually takes swings at the other apes instead of just beating his chest and trying to look tough to impress his mates. I can respect you for that. :)

You're definitely not cool or edgy, though. :p

It's not that I wish I could beat them up. I've done it more than once. And been commended by the police for doing so.

I'm not cool and edgy. Far from it.

Any chance you'd share your stories of laying the beat down on someone?

Any chance you'd share your stories of laying the beat down on someone?
All you have to do to have fun is hang out in front of a store that sells fur coats, especially in winter.

Rich ladies will come out of the store in a fur coat - there are nearly always PETA people (at least two) that will throw red paint on them.

In Maryland or Virginia, it's assault and battery, and you can "detain" them even if you aren't the police (usually, there's store security standing outside as well, and they always vouch for people who "help").

Make sure that you either leg sweep them or leap on them and ride them to the ground.

Yeah ... you old fart! :D

Well- I know you may be near the very top of age and experiences in here, but I'm not a posturing kid. I've been a lot of places, done a lot of things.

Maybe your more used to anonymous sparring with the teenagers of the forum. I'm long past that in age and life experience.

Yeah, you see, your statements here put that in question.

Yeah, you see, your statments here put that in question.

What more do we have in here than statements, Fass?

I'm really more trying to understand why you felt the need to mock me, without my mocking you. Maybe I'm frustrated that you're clearly so much more eloquent than I.
Either way, I'm at a disadvantage because I've chosen not to ridicule you or what you have to say.

All you have to do to have fun is hang out in front of a store that sells fur coats, especially in winter.

Rich ladies will come out of the store in a fur coat - there are nearly always PETA people (at least two) that will throw red paint on them.

In Maryland or Virginia, it's assault and battery, and you can "detain" them even if you aren't the police (usually, there's store security standing outside as well, and they always vouch for people who "help").

Make sure that you either leg sweep them or leap on them and ride them to the ground.

Just don't make sure you don't do it when I'm around. Or, boy oh boy, you'll be in a world of hurt! Yeah, I'll use my mad karate skills on you! I have skills, you know! Karate skills! Yeah, I'm not afraid to use them! I'd shoot everyone too! Bang bang! Shoot you all!!!!

Ahhh, there. My penis feels bigger already.

</sarcasm> For all you people who have faulty sarcasm detectors. You know who you are.

We've got some porn star sized penises in this thread.

What more do we have in here than statements, Fass?

I'm really more trying to understand why you felt the need to mock me, without my mocking you. Maybe I'm frustrated that you're clearly so much more eloquent than I.
Either way, I'm at a disadvantage because I've chosen not to ridicule you or what you have to say.

I'm not ridiculing you or mocking you, I'm just amusing myself with your implying these things, these actions you'll take and how you'll make PETA stop - something far more important and influential people than you have not been able to accomplish - and then claim "life experience" after these quasi-pubescent statements of, for lack of a better word (oh, there goes the eloquence!) dick-waving.

Oh, do ignore me, now, please. You should. I'm being irked by a pet-peeve. I shall leave you alone, as you are undeserving of my annoyance and are decent otherwise. My mood is crappy as the day has been quite shitty. I'll go have some Julmust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julmust) and get over it.

My apologies. I suck today. Tell me to fuck off, by all means.

We've got some porn star sized penises in this thread.
If that was true, Fass would want me to post a pic of it.

If that was true, Fass would want me to post a pic of it.

I've heard of pics existing, but that link was never sent me. Oh, I have not forgotten! :mad:

We've got some porn star sized penises in this thread.

What a nice way to call everyone here a dick.:D

We've got some porn star sized penises in this thread.

I am the Penisking.

I'm not ridiculing you or mocking you, I'm just amusing myself with your implying these things, these actions you'll take and how you'll make PETA stop - something far more important and influential people than you have not been able to accomplish - and then claim "life experience" after these quasi-pubescent statements of, for lack of a better word (oh, there goes the eloquence!) dick-waving.

Oh, do ignore me, now, please. You should. I'm being irked by a pet-peeve. I shall leave you alone, as you are undeserving of my annoyance and are decent otherwise. My mood is crappy as the day has been quite shitty. I'll go have some Julmust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julmust) and get over it.

My apologies. I suck today. Tell me to fuck off, by all means.

Fass- I didnt declare war on PETA- I said I would address those that subverted me to get their message to my children. I'm talking about individuals, not the worldwide PETA cartel.
It was clear to me your mood was crappy-we usually share a laugh even when we dont see eye to eye.

Hope your day improves. It is Friday and the weekend usually wipes the slate clean for me if I've had a lousy day/week. Hope it does for you.
Good luck.

I am the Penisking.

So um....who's your Penisqueen?

We've got some porn star sized penises in this thread.

I think I'm just average.

You're not here to mock me now too, are you?

I've heard of pics existing, but that link was never sent me. Oh, I have not forgotten! :mad:

I have to supply Sweden with pics? The land of the erotic film?

:fluffle:

I have to supply Sweden with pics? The land of the erotic film?

:fluffle:

For all our ample porn and affluence of debauchery, which really should make you a lot less shy about supplying us, I have remained a notable exception to the famed Sierra/Deep Kimchi adult experience - to the favour of posters with even lesser standing! I should take it personally.

So um....who's your Penisqueen?

I have not yet chosen anyone as my Penisqueen. The position is vacant, and I'm taking applications. Would you like to interview for the job?

I have not yet chosen anyone as my Penisqueen. The position is vacant, and I'm taking applications. Would you like to interview for the job?

No thanks I hear that job is to much like a lawyer so I'll be staying away from it.

COMMENTARY: Perfect example of an organization originally set up to address legitimate issues being taken over by lunatics. This sort of approach is just plain wrong! :(


PETA Tells Kids to Run From Daddy (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176739,00.html)


Friday, November 25, 2005

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, has begun a campaign to scare children into becoming vegetarians.

The group, which formed to stop animal testing of consumer products but made its name by attacking women in fur coats with fake blood, is producing comic books that portray fathers as homicidal maniacs.

The handout, titled "Your Daddy Kills Animals," features a grinning lunatic gutting a fish, and warns kids to keep their puppies and kittens away from Dad because he's "hooked on killing."

"PETA is trying as hard as it can to portray the ordinary angler as a demonic, sadistic, cruel killer. This is what PETA does — it paints caricatures of ordinary people to try to convince the rest of us that we shouldn't want to emulate them," said David Martosko, of the industry lobbying group Center for Consumer Freedom.

But PETA insists that its comic is not outlandish.

"The scientific facts are that fish feel pain in the same way as dogs and cats. It's no more acceptable to hook a fish through the mouth and drag them into your boat and slice them in half than it would be to do the exact same thing to a dog or a cat," said Bruce Friedrich, vegan campaign coordinator for PETA.

Publicity stunts are nothing new for PETA, which has run ads featuring naked women in cages and people dressed in animal suits warning about the dangers of eating meat. But some critics feel the kid-targeted campaign goes too far. [ DUH! ]

"This is traumatizing kids by the thousands. There's going to be long-term psychological damage from these kids being exposed to the material that PETA puts in front of them on a regular basis," Martosko said.

But, Friedrich countered, "They can certainly find stuff that is more in your face on the Internet, more in your face on Saturday morning cartoons. We don't need to shelter our kids quite that much."

The pamphlet follows a previous one that painted Mom as a "chicken killer." PETA claims its only goal is to reduce meat consumption by changing children's eating habits. Critics insist alienating children from their parents isn't in anyone's best interests — human or animal.
If I was running PETA (which I most assuredly am not) I would instead focus on the proven connection between abuse of animals and violence toward other humans. One of the classic symptoms of psychopathy (and/or sociopathy, depending on which experts you listen to) is enjoyment of hurting animals.

Now, personally I think going fishing is a bit different from purposefully lighting the dog on fire. I'm just saying that PETA isn't being smart about their propagandizing.

For all our ample porn and affluence of debauchery, which really should make you a lot less shy about supplying us, I have remained a notable exception to the famed Sierra/Deep Kimchi adult experience - to the favour of posters with even lesser standing! I should take it personally.
Ok, I shall supply Sweden soon!

PETA has long been out of control. their founding principle is a noble one. animals deserve decent treatment where ever possible. chickens being raised for consumption shouldn't have to suffer in cages just large enough to hold them. at least, let them run around and do chicken things.

the civilized solution to problems is through education not force. throwing paint at people is not civilized. distributing those comic books is not education. if fact, those comics resemble certain sensationalist propaganda of the past.

the thing that really annoys me most of all about many PETA-people is their complete hypocracy. can't have a fur coat but leather shoes are okay. ...so are clothes made of wool. what about soap, glue, and nutritional supplements which contain animal products or by-products? what about all that natural land that was flooded and animals displaced or drowned for that hydro-electric dam?

it's suppose to be about doing the right thing and having sympathy for our fellow animals. for PETA, it appears to be intolerance, dogma, and hypocracy all aimed to make some weak people feel better about themselves.

Ok, I shall supply Sweden soon!

*applies mental lube in preparation for nascent pipeline*

If I was running PETA (which I most assuredly am not) I would instead focus on the proven connection between abuse of animals and violence toward other humans. One of the classic symptoms of psychopathy (and/or sociopathy, depending on which experts you listen to) is enjoyment of hurting animals.

Now, personally I think going fishing is a bit different from purposefully lighting the dog on fire. I'm just saying that PETA isn't being smart about their propagandizing.


I agree. It seems to have been long documented that serial killers have a history of abusing/killing animals and work their way up to humans.
PETA could have a legitmate message, but its like they are appealing to fringe lunatics.
I do eat meat and use animal products.

I dont agree with the way some animals are raised/treated on their way to becoming food/products.
I'd like to see a middle ground. I dont have the answers.

No thanks I hear that job is to much like a lawyer so I'll be staying away from it.

How disappointing.

If I was running PETA (which I most assuredly am not) I would instead focus on the proven connection between abuse of animals and violence toward other humans. One of the classic symptoms of psychopathy (and/or sociopathy, depending on which experts you listen to) is enjoyment of hurting animals.

Now, personally I think going fishing is a bit different from purposefully lighting the dog on fire. I'm just saying that PETA isn't being smart about their propagandizing.

All true. Bullshit stunts like the ones PETA are pulling in the States at the moment do not help the cause. Quite the opposite. I wholeheartedly support the principles (even if, as has been said, even they don't respect them a lot of the time) and I have applauded some of things they've done in the past, but I swear, they must have hired the bastard child of Joseph Goebells and Joseph McCarthy as their strategy and PR guy.

Edit: Did I just invoke Godwin?

I swear, they must have hired the bastard child of Joseph Goebells and Joseph McCarthy as their PR guy.

I wonder how long it will take them to realize that the fat, pasty lard-ass that's been doing their PR all this time is Karl Rove.

I wonder how long it will take them to realize that the fat, pasty lard-ass that's been doing their PR all this time is Karl Rove.

Hah, yeah.

Really, the more moderate and sensible members and supporters need to break away and join or start an organisation that is actually sane and doesn't alienate everyone who hears about it. You don't get converts by acting like a maniac and pissing everyone off.

If I was running PETA (which I most assuredly am not) I would instead focus on the proven connection between abuse of animals and violence toward other humans. One of the classic symptoms of psychopathy (and/or sociopathy, depending on which experts you listen to) is enjoyment of hurting animals.

But that would not reflect the basic idea which PETA stands for: that animals deserve fair treatment because of what they are (living beings with feelings) - not because of what they are to us.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

"For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three."
-Maddox

If I was running PETA (which I most assuredly am not) I would instead focus on the proven connection between abuse of animals and violence toward other humans. One of the classic symptoms of psychopathy (and/or sociopathy, depending on which experts you listen to) is enjoyment of hurting animals.

Logic and fact are terrible propaganda and horrible psychological terrorism.

Ya know, the Communists under Mao Tsetung & the Nazis before them also tried to turn children against their parents.

I don't wholly disagree with PETA's mission; I do, however, have serious issues with their methods. The more drastic they get, the less support they will attract. If PETA continues on the path it's chosen, it's gonna get itself outlawed one day soon.

By the way, I'm eating meat right now. Deer jerky. Mmm, mmm mmm mmm mmm. ;)


The-Republic']PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
I'm surprised it took so long for this to come up.