NationStates Jolt Archive

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,387888,00.html

Goals and circumstances for kidnapping
1. Force the government or opponent to fulfill a specific set of demands.

2. Create a difficult situation for a government in its relations with the countries where the kidnapped persons come from

3. Obtain important information from the hostages

4. Obtain ransom money -- as, for example, our brothers in the Philippines, Chechnya and Algeria made happen and as our brothers in "Mohammed's Army" in Kashmir did when they obtained $2 million in ransom. This money can then serve as financial support for an organization.

5. To draw attention to a specific concern -- as occurred at the start of the Chechnya question or in Algeria, when our brothers hijacked a French plane.

Organise in Groups
Early reconnaissance group. They inform the kidnappers about the movements of the targert, for example if it has already reached the requisite location."

Protection group. They organize the protection of the kidnappers from all outside dangers (...).

Kidnapping group. They transport the hostages and transfer them to the group that is responsible for security.

Take-down group. Its responsibility is to take down possible pursuers or defend the kidnappings from outsiders who seek to expose them."

How to treat a hostage
1. Search the hostage. Any weapon or anything that can be used as one or anything that can be used to draw attention to a place should be taken from the hostage.

2. Separate the hostages -- men, women, young and old. One must be particularly careful with young men, since they could be capable of resistance. Immediately kill security officers because that will discourage the others from resisting.

3. Treatment of hostages should be based on the Sharia.

4. Unless it is unavoidable, one should remain distant from hostages -- at least 1.5 meters

5. One should speak a different language or a different dialect than one's own with the hostages in order to make it difficult for them to determine (the origins of the kidnappers)

6. Hostages should be blindfolded so they can't recognize the kidnappers. Likewise, the faces of the hostages should be masked.

Geez the internet is a big place...

Surely someone would find this as interesting as I do?

Great, bring the FBI and the CIA here why don't you?

Yes, I do, but most people opposed to the war on terror view all of this as tinfoil hat stuff - they don't for one second believe that any of it is real.

There's a website that tracks a lot of this stuff, called http://www.globalterroralert.com

The people on that site investigate the sites, and track their usage (including uploads).

As an example:
ANALYSIS The Toronto, Canada-based webmaster of the notorious Global Isl amic Media Front (GIMF) has uploaded three video animations which appear to be training videos in the use of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missile launchers to shoot down U.S.military helicopters, including a CH-47 Chinook and a UH-60 Black hawk. The three files were uploaded to a free file server (mariyaguchi.com), who se adminstrative logs confirm that the files were received from the Toronto area via RogersCana dian Cable Internet Access.

*takes notes*

Perfect! This will fit well into Devious Plan #11736-B.

Great, bring the FBI and the CIA here why don't you?
They are already here. The UK is also here.
http://www.echelonwatch.org/

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm

US, UK, Canada, Australia...

ECHELON is a term associated with a global network of computers that automatically search through millions of intercepted messages for pre-programmed keywords or fax, telex and e-mail addresses. Every word of every message in the frequencies and channels selected at a station is automatically searched. The processors in the network are known as the ECHELON Dictionaries. ECHELON connects all these computers and allows the individual stations to function as distributed elements an integrated system. An ECHELON station's Dictionary contains not only its parent agency's chosen keywords, but also lists for each of the other four agencies in the UKUSA system [NSA, GCHQ, DSD, GCSB and CSE]

Yes, I do, but most people opposed to the war on terror view all of this as tinfoil hat stuff - they don't for one second believe that any of it is real.

There's a website that tracks a lot of this stuff, called http://www.globalterroralert.com

The people on that site investigate the sites, and track their usage (including uploads).

As an example:

It must be nice to be able to put words in the mouth of your opposition. That way, you'll always have someone to talk to.

I suspect most of the people opposed to the war on terror oppose it on the grounds that terrorism is a tool, not a nation, group or ideology; or on the grounds that if we kidnap, torture, murder or rape people in pursuit of our goal, the goal is not worth attaining.

I happen to disagree with the latter - safety from terrorism is worth attaining - but there are ways to get there that don't involve gruesome violations of human rights. There are ways to get there that don't involve trampling on the civil and political rights of your fellow citizens. One of those things is admitting that no matter what, you will never be completely safe from terrorism, and deciding to go about your business anyway - keep gas in your car, your brain in your head, and perhaps a light flak vest around your torso.

Great, bring the FBI and the CIA here why don't you?
If you click on the link, you'll see that it is from a perfectly fine News Website of the German Magazine "Spiegel", and it was put there because the first German citizen has been kidnapped in Iraq a few days ago.

One doesn't often get an insight into the minds of the people who do this kind of thing, and that's why I thought it was worth a thread.

Unless we sit here and debate the best way of actually doing it, I don't think the various secret agencies will care all that much.

If you click on the link, you'll see that it is from a perfectly fine News Website of the German Magazine "Spiegel", and it was put there because the first German citizen has been kidnapped in Iraq a few days ago.

One doesn't often get an insight into the minds of the people who do this kind of thing, and that's why I thought it was worth a thread.

Unless we sit here and debate the best way of actually doing it, I don't think the various secret agencies will care all that much.
Apparently, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the US, are watching everything on the Internet, every radio broadcast, every cell phone conversation, etc.

The rest of the EU is alarmed by this: http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/rapport_echelon_en.pdf

Apparently, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the US, are watching everything on the Internet, every radio broadcast, every cell phone conversation, etc.
Bah, I wish I was born 1895 and not 1985. I'd rather have dealt with WWI than live in these f*cked up times today, seriously.

Bah, I wish I was born 1895 and not 1985. I'd rather have dealt with WWI than live in these f*cked up times today, seriously.

Or you could avoid both being surveillanced and having to experience one of the greatest slaughters of all times by sending old fashioned paper letters...