NationStates Jolt Archive

I have, as can be seen in another thread, started a campagin to encoruge the governments of the United Kingdom, the United States and also the United Nations to put pressure on the Saudi Arabian government to install propper religious freedom. In doing this though, I have encountered an attitude towards causes like this in general which is quite frankly sickening. It seems that if one cause is presented to someone and explained about, they will say "I cant help you because I think Y cause is more important" or "Why arent you supporting Y cause, its more important". Basicly this is a mentality which is fustrating, and it goes along the lines of "since I cant help everyone, I will help no one", which is ludicrous. It is much better to follow the principle "no one can do everything, but everyone can do something"

Yeah, I know what you are talking about. I get into that same attitude sometimes, and it sickens me. "I can't do everything, so I am going to do nothing" How exactly does that help anyone?

I think the OP misunderstands me.

I do what I can - locally. I have no ability to change the idiocy up at the UN, or fight genocide in Darfur.

I also think that doing things through a government dilutes any effect that I have. I like to see my results up close.

I think the OP misunderstands me.

I do what I can - locally. I have no ability to change the idiocy up at the UN, or fight genocide in Darfur.

I also think that doing things through a government dilutes any effect that I have. I like to see my results up close.

Same here.

I do what I can - locally. I have no ability to change the idiocy up at the UN, or fight genocide in Darfur.


You can sign pertitions easyily enough. You can go on marches, write articles etc. People can do things on a high level.

You can sign pertitions easyily enough. You can go on marches, write articles etc. People can do things on a high level.

No one pays attention to petitions.

Question: As a Christian, who has a large family to take care of here, and can't afford to go on missions, how can I best help spread Christianity?

Not by distributing tracts. Or signing petitions about religious freedom. Or writing articles on Christian persecution.

1. I try to live by example. So I spend a lot of my time raising my children, being a good father, leading a Boy Scout troop, taking in victims of domestic violence, and teaching them how to defend themselves.
2. Just by acting, I seem to guide more people along the way, and have brought quite a few people to Christ without having to harangue anyone.

I think I'm having more of an effect in a land where Christianity is reviled by at least one political party, and reviled by the popular culture.

No one pays attention to petitions

That kind of attitude helps nothing


Question: As a Christian, who has a large family to take care of here, and can't afford to go on missions, how can I best help spread Christianity?

Not by distributing tracts. Or signing petitions about religious freedom. Or writing articles on Christian persecution.

1. I try to live by example. So I spend a lot of my time raising my children, being a good father, leading a Boy Scout troop, taking in victims of domestic violence, and teaching them how to defend themselves.
2. Just by acting, I seem to guide more people along the way, and have brought quite a few people to Christ without having to harangue anyone.

I think I'm having more of an effect in a land where Christianity is reviled by at least one political party, and reviled by the popular culture.

You may be more effective in doing the things you mentioned, but that doesnt nessecarly stop you from doing other things. I obviously encourgage you for what you are doing but I dont think you have a place to discourage me from what I am doing. Thats not called for.

What if we don't believe in the particular cause? It's okay not to do anything then, right?

What if we don't believe in the particular cause? It's okay not to do anything then, right?
I hope so, otherwise I have to go start handing out PETA stuff in front of the KFC.:(

What if we don't believe in the particular cause? It's okay not to do anything then, right?

If you dont believe in a cause obviously you dont support it.
Yes this post is very true and people could do with using constructive critisism a little more but what are you trying to achieve here?

I hope so, otherwise I have to go start handing out PETA stuff in front of the KFC.:(
lol watch the south park episode with peta...come to think of it watch every south park episode!

"Why arent you supporting Y cause, its more important"
The only time I've used an argument resembling that is when it comes to "animal rights activists/supporters". I can't see how anyone could ever label themselves as that; what about human rights? Shouldn't they be your priority? If you're going to label yourself as a supporter of rights, do you really find animal right's more important than human right's? Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone. Many people support human and animal rights. But I've never been able to understand people who seem to prioritise animal rights over human rights, or define themself as an animal rights supporter, over a human rights supporter.[/rant]

Other than that, I agree with you.

lol watch the south park episode with peta...come to think of it watch every south park episode!
yeah, I have loved south park for a while now, almost as long as I have been anti-Peta, which is sorta funny because even when I was a vegan I though Peta were a bunch of loonies.

anyway, have you seen the BullShit episode about Peta? That one will make you think;)

I think I'm having more of an effect in a land where Christianity is reviled by at least one political party, and reviled by the popular culture.
How can Christianity be reviled by the popular culture in a land where 75% of people are Christians?

lol watch the south park episode with peta...come to think of it watch every south park episode!

Just off topic but the episode last night had A.L.F. in it and was just so wrong on so many levels. And the ending was just so so wrong even tough you could see it comming.

How can Christianity be reviled by the popular culture in a land where 75% of people are Christians?
It's reviled on television, in advertisements, and by most of the people in Hollywood. People who say they are Christians in public are considered wacko or worse.

It's reviled on television, in advertisements, and by most of the people in Hollywood. People who say they are Christians in public are considered wacko or worse.
Hmm, really is that so. From over here across the sea, your society seems fairly religious, especially your government. Could you give examples of people being thought insane just for being Christians?

It's reviled on television, in advertisements, and by most of the people in Hollywood. People who say they are Christians in public are considered wacko or worse.

The only christians I've seen reviled on television are pat robertson, jerey fallwell, good ol G.W.B. and any other fundamentalist who decides to make an asinine statement or does something dumb.

Hmm, really is that so. From over here across the sea, your society seems fairly religious, especially your government. Could you give examples of people being thought insane just for being Christians?

Just look at the comments people make about Bush when he mentions Christianity. Specifically, when he mentioned it on his China trip.

We are far from a religious society, especially our government. While there are a few people in government here and there who may be religious, our Constitution places stiff restrictions on its influence in government.

The only christians I've seen reviled on television are pat robertson, jerey fallwell, good ol G.W.B. and any other fundamentalist who decides to make an asinine statement or does something dumb.
And that woman who was put on TV who said she was a "God Warrior".

The stereotypical moonbat is chosen for display rather than someone who might be considered "normal".

Meh, here's some constructive criticism: People don't like the "we can make a difference" line. It's just not convincing enough! Face it, what works is robbing and cheating people out of their money and freedom, then use all your ill-gotten power to pursue whatever ideal you wish, if you still want to.