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Was he? Did his policies make the Depression worse. (An evil commie) or was he the Great Savior of America (megh)?

Couldn't he have been a son of a bitch while also being responsible for bringing the US out of the Depression?

He was pretty damned racist, if that helps.

Couldn't he have been a son of a bitch while also being responsible for bringing the US out of the Depression?
Yes, but I'm too lazy to edit.

FDR didn't do anything to get us out of the Depression; after all, there was a recession in 1937 after the New Deal was implemented. He may have mitigated the most severe effects (and vastly improved infrastructure), but didn't come close to bringing us out of the Depression. WWII did by creating gigantic, constant demand for virutally all products produced in the US and provided constant employment for tens of millions of people.

FDR is one of the greatest presidents since Lincoln (if it wasn't for the Japanese Internment Camps I would believe him to be Lincoln’s equal).

Who is Euro? Euroslavia?

A really good source on Roosevelt is The Roosevelt Myth by John T. Flynn.

Who is Euro? Euroslavia?
Ok, nvm.

A really good source on Roosevelt is The Roosevelt Myth by John T. Flynn.
I don't want to buy a book. We're having a discussion tomorrow and I want to debate the issue.

I don't want to buy a book. We're having a discussion tomorrow and I want to debate the issue.

Sorry, I was just recommending it.

Sorry, I was just recommending it.
It's on my wish list now. :)

I don't want to buy a book. We're having a discussion tomorrow and I want to debate the issue.
Eh. The traditional thought is that he did what he could, he did what was necessary, and it took the war to get us out in the end. No one was going anywhere.

Nope, you are:sniper:

Nope, you are:sniper:
No, I'm an asshole. There's a subtle difference.

I don't know, I didn't know his mother.

But he did help Christian Bale escape from juvie in 'Newsies,' which makes him all right with me.

But seriously, I don't think if his programs were responsible or the war was responsible for bringing us out of the great depression is that important when looking at who he was as an american figure. as americans, we look back at him as a great leader and president, and he was able to gain the trust and loyalty of a nation that was seriously injured. any figure that can unite a people like that and give them hope for their future, in a time that seemed so hopeless, is important and "good" in some regard.

I like the way I've just seen the fifth Rotovia- quote today...

I don't know, I didn't know his mother.

But he did help Christian Bale escape from juvie in 'Newsies,' which makes him all right with me.

But seriously, I don't think if his programs were responsible or the war was responsible for bringing us out of the great depression is that important when looking at who he was as an american figure. as americans, we look back at him as a great leader and president, and he was able to gain the trust and loyalty of a nation that was seriously injured. any figure that can unite a people like that and give them hope for their future, in a time that seemed so hopeless, is important and "good" in some regard.
But that's completely irrelavent in my discussion tomorrow. I need to know the effects of his policies.

I don't see why any of you feel anything but seething hatred toward him. He actually DID all the stuff you think Bush might do.

Think Bush is hard on Arab-Americans? FDR had the forcible relocation of Japanese-Americans to internment camps.

Think Bush flouts the Genevea Conventions? With FDR as Commander-in-Cheif, Germans captured out of uniform were lined up against a wall and shot.

Think Bush works with an unsavory element to accomplish his goals? FDR's administration worked with the New York Mafia to track German spies/sabateurs.

Think Bush tackles one dicator while being best buddies with another? Two words: Josef Stalin.

Think Bush is f***ing up Iraq by letting a bunch of goons take power? FDR gave several mayorships and other positions to the aforementioned Mafia after the invasion of Sicily.

Think Bush is having the military kill civilians on purpose? One word this time: Dresden.

Think Iraq is practically throwing soldiers into a meat-grinder? In one month of the Battle of Iwo Jima 7000 Marines died. For a pinprick little island.

Well his mother was human so I'm saying no. Besides even if you do say his ideas were failures. (Which I think you're wrong in that case) He was a good President because he was the first to openly talk to the people, not Talk down to them. His 'Fireside chats' made people feel like he saw them as equals as him, it brought unity. People could Relate to FDR, that's why he was so well liked.
(Example:When Bush does a public speech he talks to America like the entire population are made up of 5 year olds.)

Oh and Lincoln wasn't so golden also, He suspended allot of rights in the North while he was fighting the civil war. He censored the press. He suspended Hapus Corpus and other things.

I don't see why any of you feel anything but seething hatred toward him. He actually DID all the stuff you think Bush might do.

So you're saying that they're alike! :p


Think Bush is hard on Arab-Americans? FDR had the forcible relocation of Japanese-Americans to internment camps.

Lincoln had many people arrested for no other reason then that someone thought that they were on the south's side. He went all KGB on the nation.


Think Bush flouts the Genevea Conventions? With FDR as Commander-in-Cheif, Germans captured out of uniform were lined up against a wall and shot.

Any enemy soldier caught out of Uniform is considered a Spy.
Spys don't count.


Think Bush works with an unsavory element to accomplish his goals? FDR's administration worked with the New York Mafia to track German spies/sabateurs.

So... And your point being? The police will ask one criminal group for info on another even today. And the Mafia is always good on finding things. It was the most logical choice, how do you catch a sneak, by asking another.

Think Bush tackles one dicator while being best buddies with another? Two words: Josef Stalin.
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Yeah, lets declare war on Russia while fighting Japan and Germany. Real Smart there. Ever heard of the Term 'An Enemy of your Enemy is your friend.'
I bet if FDR had lived to the end of the War the Cold war wouldn't have gotten off to such a rough start. Or perhaps he knew by keeping Stalin on their side that he would keep throwing Russian Soldiers into the MeatGrinder called the Eastern Front. That's the real reason why Germany lost, because they were forced to send a majority of their forces to fight the Soviets that they couldn't do much of anything when it came to defending France.



Think Bush is f***ing up Iraq by letting a bunch of goons take power? FDR gave several mayorships and other positions to the aforementioned Mafia after the invasion of Sicily.

Maybe because they were the only ones left that had any policital Clout after the Italian Government started falling.


Think Bush is having the military kill civilians on purpose? One word this time: Dresden.

Can't say anything there.


Think Iraq is practically throwing soldiers into a meat-grinder? In one month of the Battle of Iwo Jima 7000 Marines died. For a pinprick little island.
An Island that if the Invasion of Japan happened would be completely needed for the invasion to suceed.

This is my first post on here... although I've viewed many in the past. It's a little lengthy, but gives some insight into the lives of Abe and FDR.

FDR is one of the greatest presidents since Lincoln (if it wasn't for the Japanese Internment Camps I would believe him to be Lincoln’s equal).

Lincoln also claimed to see ghosts in the White House and stayed awake for up to three days at a time. The Emancipation Proclaimation, while eloquent and delightfully verbose, did nothing to free the slaves. He made the demand that the South free all slaves in that speech, but he also knew the South would do nothing of the sort. He would've had better luck talking to a wall. The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments are what lead to the movement towards equality and freedom (although it was greatly hampered by Jim Crowe Laws in the South, poll taxes, and the such). Of the three Amendments, only the 13th was ratified during Lincoln's presidency (and merely a few months before his assassination; January 31, 1865 and then in April of that year). It wasn't solely his leadership that lead to the passage of these Amendments (as many people plainly see it), it was the strongarm tactics of the North bullying the ruined states of the South.

Back to FDR, his policies were modestly effective, and he gave something that inspired the nation. He was a great politician if nothing else; he motivated people in a time of utter despair. Could he have caused the American economy to rebound without the onset of World War II? Probably not, but we can't say that now in hindsight and know for sure. He inherited an economic nightmare and a nation destined to see a total collapse of its status and with what he was given, he lead the nation well in a war unlike any before or after.

None of his economic policies got the US out of the Depression, though his foreign policy (of edging the US into war) did.

Hey it finally happened. I was wondering when another FDR was the anti-christ thread would happen.

Dang who was that guy that would go rabid over his name?

Hey it finally happened. I was wondering when another FDR was the anti-christ thread would happen.

Dang who was that guy that would go rabid over his name?
Lewrockwellia?

If it's him, then he already came and went.

Hey it finally happened. I was wondering when another FDR was the anti-christ thread would happen.

Dang who was that guy that would go rabid over his name?
Me?

As is usual with most people, he was neither, but something more in between. Firstly, he gave people confidence and helped them regain confidence in the Country. Although there is considerable doubt that he was responsible for dragging America out of the Great Depression, it's undisputed that his "try anything and see what works" approach to resolving it helped give people hope. ( Side Note: Most economists I have read who talk about the Great Depression are agreed that the economic mobilization of American industry to assist England is what finally turned the Nation around )

FDR was one of our finest Presidents. He saved the nation in times of great turmoil.

Hey it finally happened. I was wondering when another FDR was the anti-christ thread would happen.

Dang who was that guy that would go rabid over his name?

Many of the libertarians foam at the mouth at the mention of FDR.

-snip-
Best Post yet.

Seconded.

Hey it finally happened. I was wondering when another FDR was the anti-christ thread would happen.

Dang who was that guy that would go rabid over his name?
Roach-Busters.

Best Post yet.

Seconded.
No applause, please. Just toss money in my general direction. :D

Well his mother was human so I'm saying no. Besides even if you do say his ideas were failures. (Which I think you're wrong in that case) He was a good President because he was the first to openly talk to the people, not Talk down to them. His 'Fireside chats' made people feel like he saw them as equals as him, it brought unity. People could Relate to FDR, that's why he was so well liked.
(Example:When Bush does a public speech he talks to America like the entire population are made up of 5 year olds.)

Oh and Lincoln wasn't so golden also, He suspended allot of rights in the North while he was fighting the civil war. He censored the press. He suspended Hapus Corpus and other things.


So you're saying that they're alike! :p


Lincoln had many people arrested for no other reason then that someone thought that they were on the south's side. He went all KGB on the nation.


Any enemy soldier caught out of Uniform is considered a Spy.
Spys don't count.


So... And your point being? The police will ask one criminal group for info on another even today. And the Mafia is always good on finding things. It was the most logical choice, how do you catch a sneak, by asking another.

Think Bush tackles one dicator while being best buddies with another? Two words: Josef Stalin.

Yeah, lets declare war on Russia while fighting Japan and Germany. Real Smart there. Ever heard of the Term 'An Enemy of your Enemy is your friend.'
I bet if FDR had lived to the end of the War the Cold war wouldn't have gotten off to such a rough start. Or perhaps he knew by keeping Stalin on their side that he would keep throwing Russian Soldiers into the MeatGrinder called the Eastern Front. That's the real reason why Germany lost, because they were forced to send a majority of their forces to fight the Soviets that they couldn't do much of anything when it came to defending France.



Maybe because they were the only ones left that had any policital Clout after the Italian Government started falling.


Can't say anything there.


An Island that if the Invasion of Japan happened would be completely needed for the invasion to suceed.


See? My point wasn't that FDR was a bad president. Only to point out that he did alot of the things Bush did, only he took them farther, and SOMEHOW the Republic managed to survive. So everyone clamoring about the impending American Imperial Police State Out To Conquer And Enslave The World should chill out.

I would rate him on his leadership abilities as a 10. Now that does not mean he is perfect. Although he was a great leader for the time. One big thing that I think is that he saved the US from a possible overthrow of the government. Things were really bad in the depression. The country was ripe for a coup or full blown revolution. I think the new deal program and others he instituted in the time turned down the pot from boil to simmer. However WWII is what really brought the world out of the Great Depression.

http://www.rinfret.com/govpolicy.html#anchor69841

Many of the libertarians foam at the mouth at the mention of FDR.

All true libertarians foam at the mouth at the mention of him. He helped create the welfare/warfare state in America, replaced our limited, constitutional government with a humongous, highly centralized, bureaucratic nanny state.

Albert Jay Nock accurately described Roosevelt's death as "the biggest public improvement that America has experienced since the passage of the Bill of Rights."

Roach-Busters.

That's him! :D

Albert Jay Nock accurately described Roosevelt's death as "the biggest public improvement that America has experienced since the passage of the Bill of Rights."

Yea that's why almost everybody knows FDR and most people would go "who?" at the mention of Albert Jay Nock.

All true libertarians foam at the mouth at the mention of him. He helped create the welfare/warfare state in America, replaced our limited, constitutional government with a humongous, highly centralized, bureaucratic nanny state.

Versus what? The fine setup business america gave us?

Versus what? The fine setup business america gave us?

The government's sole duty should to protect individual liberty, not to provide for its citizens. Governments should neither give or protect rights, but protect them, by allowing citizens to go about their lives unhindered and unmolested by the state.

Was FDR a son of a bitch

well.......is not every male ?

The government's sole duty should to protect individual liberty, not to provide for its citizens. Governments should neither give or protect rights, but protect them, by allowing citizens to go about their lives unhindered and unmolested by the state.

You are right the health and work safety laws are abominations. After all the goverment is hindering the businessman by emposing them on him.

You are correct the goverment overstepped it's bounds by getting involved in disaster areas after all the people made the choice to live in those areas.

Just leave everything to the businessman since he would take care of everybody! Up the class system!

well.......is not every male ?

Damn it! I wish I said that first! :D

FDR didn't do anything to get us out of the Depression; <snip> WWII did by creating gigantic, constant demand for virutally all products produced in the US and provided constant employment for tens of millions of people.The Depression ended in 1941, so unless you're suggesting that trade to the Allies increased drastically before the U.S. entered the war, I'd have to say you're wrong.

Why is there never a happy medium in politics?

FDR, like just about any other president in U.S. History had some excellent and helpful policies and some downright dumb ones. Generally speaking, however, the country was better off than before he was elected. So in that sense, he was a pretty good president.

Will we be able to say in 2008 that we are better off than we were in 2000?

FDR was a socialist, instituting policies that raped Americans' inalienable rights to control their wealth/protect their ownership of their own resources.... he brought about the precipitous slide from the mountaintop of Financial Freedom into the murky swamps of Forced Economic Sharing (Communism) in which the money I work for is less likely to stay in my pocket.

I love financial freedom; i believe in proprietary rights; i hate communism.

how's that for simplification? hehe

Giuseppe Zangara should be posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

FDR didn't do anything to get us out of the Depression; after all, there was a recession in 1937 after the New Deal was implemented. He may have mitigated the most severe effects (and vastly improved infrastructure), but didn't come close to bringing us out of the Depression. WWII did by creating gigantic, constant demand for virutally all products produced in the US and provided constant employment for tens of millions of people.
And who brought you into World War II? That's right, FDR. I think he was the best president America ever had. It's amazing how hated he is by some right-wing Americans today. I can't imagine such hatred being delivered against Churchill by British people.

And who brought you into World War II? That's right, FDR. I think he was the best president America ever had. It's amazing how hated he is by some right-wing Americans today. I can't imagine such hatred being delivered against Churchill by British people.

YOu have to remember that FDR is now ancient history now. After all he was over 60 years ago. Heck with attention span of the American people; they probably only know him because he is on the Dime :D

I think he was the best president America ever had. It's amazing how hated he is by some right-wing Americans today.

True. And amazing considering the fact that Ronald Regan, who defined the modern republican, wanted to model his presidency after his role model: FDR

Well, after studying FDR at school, i don't see how anyone could vote yes. He had his faults, but the repubs (Hoover) did nothing at all. 'Prosperity is around the corner' was just a lot of hot air.

Personally, I feel that most (not all) people voting yes are doing so because he perfectly fits the lassiez-fare ideology, not because FDR 'made things worse' -purely because he didn't.

The only two problems i could see that anyone would have with FDR are:
1)There is a theory among historians that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor before hand and allowed it to happen to get us into WWII.
2)He picked Truman as a VP. FDR got along well with Stalin (better than he got along with Churchill). If FDR had stayed alive or if he had picked a VP not as Anti-Stalin as Truman, we might have been able to avoid the Cold War.

FDR is not a fucking son of a bitch. He's my favorite president ever because of the good he did.

But he did help Christian Bale escape from juvie in 'Newsies,' which makes him all right with me.

That was teddy roosevelt, not Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and that was Christian Bale? Cool.

The only two problems i could see that anyone would have with FDR are:
1)There is a theory among historians that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor before hand and allowed it to happen to get us into WWII.


There is some discussion for that. I remember doing a report on that topic a long time ago. I had found several incidents were the imperial Navy and the US Navy traded shots. So there was a history of not liking one another.

What ever the reason. If the man "allowed" it then that shows he was a genious at handling the American people. No better motivation then givem them a cause for war. Remember the Alamo, Remember the Maine, Remember Pearl Harbor!

Giuseppe Zangara should be posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Absolutely.

The only two problems i could see that anyone would have with FDR are:
1)There is a theory among historians that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor before hand and allowed it to happen to get us into WWII.

That's pretty well the deciding factor for me. FDR's New Dealism certainly doesn't endeer him to me either, but the possibility that he may have "set-up" Pearl Harbor for the sole purpose of tricking the American people into becoming entangled in a foreign war almost makes his counter-productive socialist policies look appealing.

What ever the reason. If the man "allowed" it then that shows he was a genious at handling the American people. No better motivation then givem them a cause for war. Remember the Alamo, Remember the Maine, Remember Pearl Harbor!

Bush, we are constantly told, lied America into war. FDR (it seems) sent the soldiers at Pearl Harbor to their deaths in order to get America into war. Anyone who is even moderately pacifistic should consider FDR's actions evil.

That's pretty well the deciding factor for me. FDR's New Dealism certainly doesn't endeer him to me either, but the possibility that he may have "set-up" Pearl Harbor for the sole purpose of tricking the American people into becoming entangled in a foreign war almost makes his counter-productive socialist policies look appealing.

Bush, we are constantly told, lied America into war. FDR (it seems) sent the soldiers at Pearl Harbor to their deaths in order to get America into war. Anyone who is even moderately pacifistic should consider FDR's actions evil.

Well Pearl Harbor was the location entire Pacific Naval Command. He didn't 'send' those people to Pearl Harbor, they had been living there for years. The entire Pacific Fleet and the people who worked on it full time lived there. In Bushes case we had no one in Iraq to begin with and it wasn't our own nation.

Yes there were rumors that Japan was massing an attack but no one believed that they would be that Stupid to actually do it. Besides he didn't get the info until a communication was transated into the code names for the attack, which never made it to Washington in time. Also the Japanesse Delagates were 10 minutes late in delivering their declaration of War.


I love financial freedom; i believe in proprietary rights; i hate communism.

how's that for simplification? hehe
You must work for BP right? Or Time\AOL\Warner\Turner or some other Big Super Business right?

lawls, I some how voted for all four at once..

Think Bush flouts the Genevea Conventions? With FDR as Commander-in-Cheif, Germans captured out of uniform were lined up against a wall and shot.

Actually, I most of the Geneva Conventions (including revisions to the section on POWs) came about in 1949, which was 4 years after FDR's death, if my math is right. So this point doesn't really...apply.

That's pretty well the deciding factor for me. FDR's New Dealism certainly doesn't endeer him to me either, but the possibility that he may have "set-up" Pearl Harbor for the sole purpose of tricking the American people into becoming entangled in a foreign war almost makes his counter-productive socialist policies look appealing.

While FDR's policies had given the US economy a slight boost, we needed to be in WWII to get the economy in full swing. Congress would never have declared war without due cause. FDR was a very smart man to say the least, one of the top five presidents of all time. His policies were what was needed at the time.

FDR was a total doddering senile idiot at the end of the war. Maybe some of his earlier policies he made while he still had more than a bowl of oatmeal left between his ears (the WPA, the New Deal) were excellent. Hmm, notice how they were Socialist policies? By the time of the Yalta Conference, his brains were mud, just like our other Western hero Churchill's. Yes, they defeated the Fascist Hitler, but they sold their souls to the so-called Communist (but biggest Fascist of them all) Stalin. Roosevelt and Churchill conspired to send thousands of Russian soldiers who had actually decided to fight against Stalinist Russia to their deaths in Stalin's Gulag. Oh, you know not of the Vlasov battalions, eh? Roosevelt and Churchill conspired to appease Stalin by ceding the eastern part of Germany to Russia. They sat on their fat cigar-smoking asses when Stalin captured and oppressed Eastern Europe once Hitler was toast. They sat back and gorged their faces while Stalin propped up the Kims of Korea. They were IDIOTS.

And to those who hate Communism: Stalin was no Communist. Neither is Castro, or the guy who runs China, or any totalitarian tyrany. If Totalitarianism = Communism, good old Bush is working hard for his hammer and sickle badge.
Thee has never really been a true Communist nation, but hopefully someday there will be. Maybe I'm not Martin Luther King, but I too have a dream.

FDR was a total doddering senile idiot at the end of the war. Maybe some of his earlier policies he made while he still had more than a bowl of oatmeal left between his ears (the WPA, the New Deal) were excellent. Hmm, notice how they were Socialist policies? By the time of the Yalta Conference, his brains were mud, just like our other Western hero Churchill's. Yes, they defeated the Fascist Hitler, but they sold their souls to the so-called Communist (but biggest Fascist of them all) Stalin. Roosevelt and Churchill conspired to send thousands of Russian soldiers who had actually decided to fight against Stalinist Russia to their deaths in Stalin's Gulag. Oh, you know not of the Vlasov battalions, eh? Roosevelt and Churchill conspired to appease Stalin by ceding the eastern part of Germany to Russia. They sat on their fat cigar-smoking asses when Stalin captured and oppressed Eastern Europe once Hitler was toast. They sat back and gorged their faces while Stalin propped up the Kims of Korea. They were IDIOTS.

And to those who hate Communism: Stalin was no Communist. Neither is Castro, or the guy who runs China, or any totalitarian tyrany. If Totalitarianism = Communism, good old Bush is working hard for his hammer and sickle badge.
Thee has never really been a true Communist nation, but hopefully someday there will be. Maybe I'm not Martin Luther King, but I too have a dream.

Hmmm...Communists gained power in Russia and turned into Fascists...Communists gained power in Cuba and turned into Fascists....Communists gained power and North Korea and turned into Fascists...Communists gained power in China and turned into Fascists...

Think there might be sort of a correlation there? Communism=Fascism. I hate Communism because it ALWAYS turns into dictatorship, and communists here always just shrug and say "Oh that wasn't real Communism".

Then maybe some of my comrades are right to say that we should ditch the word "Communism". I believe in Socialism, and that has had some success. It's not that Communism itself is wrong, it's that the tools who used its name used it to gain power for themselves. If Communism turns into a dictatorship of the proletariat, then it is as vile as capitalism. If it turns from Socialism to True Communism, it would be the best government we can have. Capitalism is on a crash course for revolution, the People can only be oppressed for so long before revolt is inevitable. Aren't we already reaping those seeds in the gang warfare of our inner cities (I'm in the USA)? Totalitarian false Communism crumble, but can't you see that capitalism will suffer the same fate? Bill Gates might be richer than god, but if he drives down the wrong street at night, that cap won't keep from punching him out because of Benjamins. Class warfare is the ill of America. I'm not saying everyone should get paid the same, but there's no excuse for some jagoff who happened to inherit a company and does nothing but fap all day to make 10 times as much as all his employees combined, when it's their labor that buys his fancy Cuban cigars.

He took an admirable stand to help out the poor in our country. He made what america is today. In some ways this is good but it is also bad because he gave the workers a sense of security, delaying change to socialism.

FDR didn't do anything to get us out of the Depression; after all, there was a recession in 1937 after the New Deal was implemented.Yes, there was. What you're missing is the part where just prior to the recession FDR cut funding to New Deal projects because he believed the economy had recovered enough to stand for less government spending. This was a miscalculation on his part, to say the least, but it is not an indication that the New Deal was a poor policy.

Was he? Did his policies make the Depression worse. (An evil commie) or was he the Great Savior of America (megh)?

He was a power hungry son of a bitch. (Tried to pack the supreme court.)

He was a power hungry son of a bitch. (Tried to pack the supreme court.)

So he was what ahh? politician?

Hmmm...Communists gained power in Russia and turned into Fascists...Communists gained power in Cuba and turned into Fascists....Communists gained power and North Korea and turned into Fascists...Communists gained power in China and turned into Fascists...

Think there might be sort of a correlation there?

well, considering the revolutions in china, north korea, cuba, etc. were inspired by the already leninist russians, who were also providing training and weapons and funds and whatnot, then yes, i suppose there is one. turns out that leninists create more leninists. shocking, i know.

FDR was a socialist, instituting policies that raped Americans' inalienable rights to control their wealth/protect their ownership of their own resources.... he brought about the precipitous slide from the mountaintop of Financial Freedom into the murky swamps of Forced Economic Sharing (Communism) in which the money I work for is less likely to stay in my pocket.

I love financial freedom; i believe in proprietary rights; i hate communism.

There are no inalienable rights. I think that whole concept is bullshit. Especially when you consider the swamp that the world was in at the time. Nor was FDR a communist!

FDR was a Cripple Commie Jew.

He was a power hungry son of a bitch. (Tried to pack the supreme court.)I remember you! We had this conversation before!

The only two problems i could see that anyone would have with FDR are:
1)There is a theory among historians that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor before hand and allowed it to happen to get us into WWII.
2)He picked Truman as a VP. FDR got along well with Stalin (better than he got along with Churchill). If FDR had stayed alive or if he had picked a VP not as Anti-Stalin as Truman, we might have been able to avoid the Cold War.My biggest problem with him is sending Americans of Japanese (and other Asian) descent into internment camps.

FDR was a Cripple Commie Jew.
...that's nice!

He was a pretty bad president, but he wasn't an sob. He had good intentions.

FDR was by far our worst President ever. If only Giuseppe Zangara had succeeded in his heroic attempt to send FDR to his dark master, Satan.

The Depression ended in 1941, so unless you're suggesting that trade to the Allies increased drastically before the U.S. entered the war, I'd have to say you're wrong.

Trade with Great Britain did increase from just prior to them entering the war in 1939 up until the US openly entered the war in 1941. We gave weapons and raw materials to the Brits (as our ships were sunk by German U-Boats carrying those supplies...).

As far as FDR knowing about Pearl Harbor ahead of time... there is evidence to support both sides of that argument. In a way, he was a political genius if he did know (not that I could say based upon my own morals I could live with the decision); he allowed them to attack us and rally the support at home. Before Pearl Harbor, the majority of Americans were vehemently against going into WWII. Afterwards nearly the entire nation was rallying behind the cause. If FDR had preemtively entered the war, support wouldn't have been there, and who's to say we would've won then?... But on that other level... if he knew about it, he permitted 2,403 lives to be lost, what of his character and conscience as a human being?

And I'm not even going to touch the Bush issue...