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Well, seeing as I and a few others nearly took over a thread or two socializing, I thought this might be a good opportunity for all Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgender/Gay friendly/ persons on NS to chat and otherwise be friendly.

Makes yourselves comfortable!

*provides coffee and cookies*

*provides coffee and cookies*
Cookies! Yay! :fluffle: *smooch*


I believe we should all introduce ourselves properly:

My name's Fred, I'm a comp-sci student in Québec city, Canada, and I'm gay.

Pleased to meet you.

I myself am not gay, but gay people are the same as anyone else, except usually nicer and more tolerant.

Seems like a good idea after how we went off topic on that porn thread. :p

Ironic.

I myself am not gay, but gay people are the same as anyone else, except usually nicer and more tolerant.
Well, being on wrong side of prejudices usually makes you ponder about the value of pre-made assumptions on people you don't know.

I know I could never be a racist, sexist or otherwise bigot after going through that. That wouldn't be very consistant.

Seems like a good idea after how we went off topic on that porn thread. :p
Indeed. I thought 3 pages of off-topic was all the mods were going to overlook :-P

Ironic.
What is? :confused:

Haha I can defend any position for the sake of argument, regardless of my own beliefs. Its a good way of detecting flaws in arguments sustaining your own ideas.

What is? :confused:

Heh, what isn't?

I myself am not gay, but gay people are the same as anyone else, except usually nicer and more tolerant.
Bullshit i saw a gay neo-nazi club and being gay doesnt make you any nicer or more tolerable. Hi im Ted im 14 and heterosexual.

Heh, what isn't?
Answering my question by another question?


No fair! :p

Bullshit i saw a gay neo-nazi club and being gay doesnt make you any nicer or more tolerable. Hi im Ted im 14 and heterosexual.
The average gay person is unlikely to be neo-nazi though.

Bullshit i saw a gay neo-nazi club and being gay doesnt make you any nicer or more tolerable. Hi im Ted im 14 and heterosexual.
Well it did with me. I'm overall appreciated as a nice person, and if I'm not tolerant, then I'm acceptant of differences.

You saw a gay neo-nazi club? Wtf?

On a side note, this doesn't mean anything about gays in general. For all I know there might have been a handful fo jews stupid enough to form a neo-nazi club, and that doesn't mean the majority of jews don't condemn nazism.

While not being any of the afformentioned orientations, it's pretty hard not to be gay-friendly when one of my best friends is a lesbian who I may or may not be in a deeper relationship with.

Y'know, not to mention the fact that there's no reason not to like people based on something like sexual orientation. One might as well dislike all people with blue eyes. :)

Bullshit i saw a gay neo-nazi club and being gay doesnt make you any nicer or more tolerable. Hi im Ted im 14 and heterosexual.

That must have been some sight. (See? Told ya.)

Y'know, not to mention the fact that there's no reason not to like people based on something like sexual orientation. One might as well dislike all people with blue eyes. :)

'Cept redheads, of course. Those are evil and immoral. :p

Ya, my expression is " It's ok to be straight, not normal, but ok" :) Hi I am Bo, an English major in Oshkosh WI and I am gay, if the quote wasnt a giveaway!!!:D

'Cept redheads, of course. Those are evil and immoral. :p

Goddamn gingers....

*promptly leaves*

" It's ok to be straight, not normal, but ok"
I should make that my sig :D

Hi im Ted im 14 and heterosexual.

Hi Ted ! Don't worry - we can cure you !

I know It is rather a great quote, even my straight friends laughed...:D

Hi Ted ! Don't worry - we can cure you !
All we need is ten feet of rope, a box of condoms and lots of lube; honest! :D


On a side note, we should really avoid kidding over that issue: there are people out there who really think homosexuality is a disease and can be cured. I remember reading about a so-called "therapy" to turn gay men heterosexual using the power of Christ, indoctrination and conditionning. And that is scary.

I myself am not gay, but gay people are the same as anyone else, except usually nicer and more tolerant.

:rolleyes:

It is scary. Scientific research has countered beliefs that homosexuality is a choice, not something you are born with. They still continue to dispute this.

I told myself I was going to keep away fromt his after that message that looked like a threat to straight people :S

TEN FEET OF ROPE? What could you do with that? Well, whatever it is I'm padlocking my pants :D

All we need is ten feet of rope, a box of condoms and lots of lube; honest! :D


On a side note, we should really avoid kidding over that issue: there are people out there who really think homosexuality is a disease and can be cured. I remember reading about a so-called "therapy" to turn gay men heterosexual using the power of Christ, indoctrination and conditionning. And that is scary.

They sometimes use aversion therapy where they give the gay person drugs that make them vomit every time they feel aroused and leave them in a small room with not even a bucket for any 'waste' and a lot of gay porn... This used to be done a lot more than it is now though but it is just... I don't know the words to describe how bad it really is.

Anyway, this is my first ever post here having read the porn thread I came to find this one, I'm 17 and a lesbian in the UK... That's a pretty brief introduction but it will do!

Hiya!

I'm not gay. Of course, I'm not really fully straight either, although I'm in a long-term (hopefully lifetime) straight relationship, so I probably won't be exploring lesbianism anymore. I'd call myself bisexual, but I'm much more often attracted to guys than to girls, so some would say that doesn't count. *Shrug*

I'm definitely gay-friendly though! =) Some of my friends have labeled me their favorite fruitfly! =)

You're are all flamingly fagelalisciously flamboyantly fruityfuly freaks...............Ya fags :sniper:

Heh, thanks for bumping the thread up again :p

You're are all flamingly fagelalisciously flamboyantly fruityfuly freaks...............Ya fags :sniper:
How nice of you. Have a cookie and be quiet now, the grownups are having a talk.

I dunno if he was being serious there :p

How nice of you. Have a cookie and be quiet now, the grownups are having a talk.

I think it was sarcasm.

I told myself I was going to keep away fromt his after that message that looked like a threat to straight people :S

TEN FEET OF ROPE? What could you do with that? Well, whatever it is I'm padlocking my pants :D
It wasn't a threat.

It was a warning ;)

Because we all know us gays just can't control ourselves. Every time we see an innocent straight boy, we just *have* to steal his anal virginity. :rolleyes:

[/sarcasm]

You're are all flamingly fagelalisciously flamboyantly fruityfuly freaks...............Ya fags :sniper:

Ooh! Sounds like someone needs some hot gay sex!

*Isn't gay, just likes baiting homophobes*

I think it was sarcasm.
Whenever I see that sniper smiley I assume the worst.

Ooh! Sounds like someone needs some hot gay sex!

*Isn't gay, just likes baiting homophobes*
Yes, and that someone is ME! :p

Yes, and that someone is ME! :p

I guess I brought that on myself...

:p

Whenever I see that sniper smiley I assume the worst.

Good policy.

I guess I brought that on myself...

:p
Indeed you did. Now go fetch some condoms. :p

They sometimes use aversion therapy where they give the gay person drugs that make them vomit every time they feel aroused and leave them in a small room with not even a bucket for any 'waste' and a lot of gay porn... This used to be done a lot more than it is now though but it is just... I don't know the words to describe how bad it really is.

I hope you're kidding - but I have this terrible sinking feeling that you're not. Surely they don't still do this sort of thing to people? I mean, aren't we a bit more enlightened than that now? .... *looks at the fundies trying to teach creationism (oh, sorry, "ID") as a science rather than as theology, the anti-abortionists, the furore about gay marriages*... Ok, maybe we aren't. But that's just ... you're right, there are no words to describe how horrendous that is.

Oh and hi, I'm female and straight, but I have several gay friends. I firmly believe that someone's sexual orientation is nobody's business but their own (and the person they want to shag...).

Being homosexual does not make someone any less of a person than anyone else. Homosexuality is most certainly NOT a disease; nor is it limited to the human species. I find it quite mind-boggling whenever I encounter someone who thinks gays are somehow 'unclean' - we can only look forward to an era when such things as sexual orientation, race, colour, etc. will no longer dominate human thoughts. I'd give it another couple of hundred years, though. *sigh*

Very enlightened thinking, and you are correct in what you say.

Indeed you did. Now go fetch some condoms. :p

Yes, master.

Hang on, I'm supposed to be the straight guy... Whoops.

:p

Hello.

I hope you're kidding - but I have this terrible sinking feeling that you're not. Surely they don't still do this sort of thing to people? I mean, aren't we a bit more enlightened than that now? .... *looks at the fundies trying to teach creationism (oh, sorry, "ID") as a science rather than as theology, the anti-abortionists, the furore about gay marriages*... Ok, maybe we aren't. But that's just ... you're right, there are no words to describe how horrendous that is.

Oh and hi, I'm female and straight, but I have several gay friends. I firmly believe that someone's sexual orientation is nobody's business but their own (and the person they want to shag...).

Being homosexual does not make someone any less of a person than anyone else. Homosexuality is most certainly NOT a disease; nor is it limited to the human species. I find it quite mind-boggling whenever I encounter someone who thinks gays are somehow 'unclean' - we can only look forward to an era when such things as sexual orientation, race, colour, etc. will no longer dominate human thoughts. I'd give it another couple of hundred years, though. *sigh*

Stop blaming the religous right without knowing what the hell you're talking about. Its actually the A-rabs that continue to do this kind of stuff to you guys......Americans stopped this kind of stuff years ago....Those damn muslims continue it to this day....I say, you guys get a coalition of Miami Beach, Venice Beach, San Francsico, and Key West and attack the muslim countries....Just a suggestion.

Hello, Im Phil [Appluse]

Im 18, im Bisexual and im an idiot.:headbang: most of the time

Stop blaming the religous right without knowing what the hell you're talking about. Its actually the A-rabs that continue to do this kind of stuff to you guys......Americans stopped this kind of stuff years ago....Those damn muslims continue it to this day....I say, you guys get a coalition of Miami Beach, Venice Beach, San Francsico, and Key West and attack the muslim countries....Just a suggestion.

I don't know what you meant by 'you guys', but if you didn't notice, the poster you responded to was a straight female. That is, if you were implying homosexuals by 'you guys', if not, my apologies.

Oh and as I forget to introduce myself earlier:
Hi, I'm Sara the seventeen-year-old nonsexual.

Stop blaming the religous right without knowing what the hell you're talking about. Its actually the A-rabs that continue to do this kind of stuff to you guys......Americans stopped this kind of stuff years ago....Those damn muslims continue it to this day....I say, you guys get a coalition of Miami Beach, Venice Beach, San Francsico, and Key West and attack the muslim countries....Just a suggestion.
True, many muslims are violently against homosexuality. However, even secular Communist China considered a disease a while ago. :rolleyes: People seriously need to change their attitudes.

I don't know what you meant by 'you guys', but if you didn't notice, the poster you responded to was a straight female. That is, if you were implying homosexuals by 'you guys', if not, my apologies.

Oh and as I forget to introduce myself earlier:
Hi, I'm Sara the seventeen-year-old nonsexual.

1. I was implying gays...sorry for the misunderstanding

2. What the hell is a nonsexual?

I suppose it means asexual?

I suppose it means asexual?

You would be correct.

You would be correct.

And that means what...you dont have sex.....all i know is asexual for plants...when they are not male or female but reproduce by themselves...so what the hell does that mean for a human?

It wasn't a threat.

It was a warning ;)

Because we all know us gays just can't control ourselves. Every time we see an innocent straight boy, we just *have* to steal his anal virginity. :rolleyes:

[/sarcasm]

I would like to point out I was joking. Don't take yourself so seriously :)

And that means what...you dont have sex.....all i know is asexual for plants...when they are not male or female but reproduce by themselves...so what the hell does that mean for a human?
It means you don't have sex, and are likely to be disgusted at the thought of it. Hitler was purportedly asexual.

It means you don't have sex, and are likely to be disgusted at the thought of it. Hitler was purportedly asexual.

Well that's complete crap, given the reports from his niece...*shudder*

And that means what...you dont have sex.....all i know is asexual for plants...when they are not male or female but reproduce by themselves...so what the hell does that mean for a human?

It's because of things like this that I prefer the term 'nonsexual' as opposed to 'asexual'. Now, break the word into two parts. Non and sexual. Non sexual. As in 'I am not sexual'. I experience no sexual attraction and have near no sex drive.

Well that's complete crap, given the reports from his niece...*shudder*
I did say purportedly ;) In addition, he only became asexual later in his life, or so its said, when he thought he had transcended to divinity...a god cannot experience sexual desires after all :rolleyes:

Even if he does like girly pee-pee.

Did I say that?

:confused:

we need this? like, a gay enclave? honest, now, and i thought we'd be the better mixers..ts.

p.s. you know: don't tease or feed the straights.

and this is at least teasing. so..

;)

Yes, master.

Hang on, I'm supposed to be the straight guy... Whoops.

:p
You're not fooling anyone ;)

It's because of things like this that I prefer the term 'nonsexual' as opposed to 'asexual'. Now, break the word into two parts. Non and sexual. Non sexual. As in 'I am not sexual'. I experience no sexual attraction and have near no sex drive.

My best friend of 7 years is asexual, or non-sexual, if you will. I think everyone should have at least one asexual friend to help keep you centered in reality. Because as sexual beings, sometimes we (well, me at least) forget all logic when the sex is good. Plus, you never have to worry about getting drunk with him or her and doing something you'll regret in the morning!

Oh yes, and to introduce myself: my name is katharine, im a student in MA and a big ol' lesbo.

I would like to point out I was joking. Don't take yourself so seriously :)
Heh, you never know. I've honestly known guys who were afraid this was something they could catch, and proceeded to avoid me like I was leperous or something when they learner I was gay.

As Einstein once said: "There are only two things that are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not even sure about the universe."

I hadn't thought of it that way...

GET THE HELL AWAY, YOU LEPROUS CREATURE!

:D:D:D

Americans stopped this kind of stuff years ago....

Don't follow the news much, do you ?

'Cept redheads, of course. Those are evil and immoral. :p
Guilty as charged. Not gay, though.

Hey, new to the thread and i'm bi. Pleased to meeting you all *tip of the hat*

Hey, new to the thread and i'm bi. Pleased to meeting you all *tip of the hat*
Ditto. Not wearing a hat though. *raises glass*

Hey, new to the thread and i'm bi. Pleased to meeting you all *tip of the hat*

name, age, profession, haircolor, favourite finger and sock color, please.

same goes for you, preebs.

I hadn't thought of it that way...

GET THE HELL AWAY, YOU LEPROUS CREATURE!

:D:D:D
Don't you mean lecherous creature? :p

name, age, profession, haircolor, favourite finger and sock color, please.

same goes for you, preebs.
Favorite finger? O_o

Don't you mean lecherous creature? :p

Whatever works for you.

*shrug*

Hello. I'm straight, my friend claims to be bi-curious, I think she's confused, and this post is entertaining. I'm fine with gays except for when they flaunt their gayness in everyone's faces. And then it's just annoying. So continue.

Has anyone seent he Drawn Together epsode 'Xandir's Ultimate Gay Test'? I believe that one explains God's view on gays. A cartoon God is god enough for me! You limp-wristed nancies are alright! :D

EDIT: Now I'm going to ask you to not hurt me. Please.

Has anyone seent he Drawn Together epsode 'Xandir's Ultimate Gay Test'? I believe that one explains God's view on gays. A cartoon God is god enough for me! You limp-wristed nancies are alright! :D

EDIT: Now I'm going to ask you to not hurt me. Please.

Yeah, I saw that. I laughed.

My best friend of 7 years is asexual, or non-sexual, if you will. I think everyone should have at least one asexual friend to help keep you centered in reality. Because as sexual beings, sometimes we (well, me at least) forget all logic when the sex is good. Plus, you never have to worry about getting drunk with him or her and doing something you'll regret in the morning!

Oh yes, and to introduce myself: my name is katharine, im a student in MA and a big ol' lesbo.
Hello, I am a heterosexual, but I tolerate and respect gays as long as they don't...well....hit on myself. Not that thats happened, but let's just say if that does happen....:gundge: ;) :D
Also, about your 7 year old friend, how the heck do you think a kid that young can really know if their asexual. Just because a little kid thinks girls are icky doesn't mean they aren't straight. I mean, for gods sake, the kid hasn't even hit puberty yet.
Unless you meant 17. That is an entirely different story

Of 7 years as in for the last 7 years I think is what Culaypene means.

Hello, I am a heterosexual, but I tolerate and respect gays as long as they don't...well....hit on myself. Not that thats happened, but let's just say if that does happen....:gundge: ;) :D
Also, about your 7 year old friend, how the heck do you think a kid that young can really know if their asexual. Just because a little kid thinks girls are icky doesn't mean they aren't straight. I mean, for gods sake, the kid hasn't even hit puberty yet.
Unless you meant 17. That is an entirely different story
Heh, yet it would be okay for you to hit on a girl who you thought was straight? :p I know, its not exactly the same, but just wondering :p What if a guy honestly thought you were gay?

Favorite finger? O_o
yes. very important thing, that. don't you think?
left- or right-tilting head, btw?
and do you prefer spoons or forks?
and which sock do you usually put on first, the right or the left one?

Hello, I am a heterosexual, but I tolerate and respect gays as long as they don't...well....hit on myself. Not that thats happened, but let's just say if that does happen....:gundge: ;) :D
Also, about your 7 year old friend, how the heck do you think a kid that young can really know if their asexual. Just because a little kid thinks girls are icky doesn't mean they aren't straight. I mean, for gods sake, the kid hasn't even hit puberty yet.
Unless you meant 17. That is an entirely different story

Err that's far from respect. "You're cool unless you bug me and then whammo". Like someone else said, would it be an 'honest mistake' if you hit on a lesbian? Or would she be entirely justified to :gundge: ;) :D ?

Hellooooooooooooooooooooooo

:fluffle:

<3

*pleased to be a part of a all-inclusive love fest*

name, age, profession, haircolor, favourite finger and sock color, please.

same goes for you, preebs.

Name: Preebs ;)
Age: 21
Profession: Student (aka barhopper/cafe-sitting person)
Haircolour: Black (with copper bits at the moment; has been red, pink and brown at various times)
Favourite finger: Um... er... Am I wrong for thinking dirty thoughts?
Sock colour: None right now.

a)Favourite finger: Um... er... Am I wrong for thinking dirty thoughts?
b)Sock colour: None right now.

a) oh, i'm not going to, er, restrict you in your thinking :)

b) would it be wrong for me to think dirty thoughts now?

p.s. i meant for "favourite" to refer to the sock color as well..but oh well :)

Hello, I am a heterosexual, but I tolerate and respect gays as long as they don't...well....hit on myself. Not that thats happened, but let's just say if that does happen....:gundge: ;) :D
Also, about your 7 year old friend, how the heck do you think a kid that young can really know if their asexual. Just because a little kid thinks girls are icky doesn't mean they aren't straight. I mean, for gods sake, the kid hasn't even hit puberty yet.
Unless you meant 17. That is an entirely different story

by "friend of 7 years" i mean "friend i have been friends with for 7 years"

and as far as if a gay were to hit on you....i can't say the same. i love when straight girls hit on me.

Haha same here ^^

Hello. I'm straight, my friend claims to be bi-curious, I think she's confused, and this post is entertaining. I'm fine with gays except for when they flaunt their gayness in everyone's faces. And then it's just annoying. So continue.

I hate when straight couples flaunt there straightness: holding hands, getting married (and having it recognized in all states), making babies. I mean, I'm fine with heterosexuality and all, as long as they don't do it in front of my face!

I hate when straight couples flaunt there straightness: holding hands, getting married (and having it recognized in all states), making babies. I mean, I'm fine with heterosexuality and all, as long as they don't do it in front of my face!
EXACTLY.

And SoWiBi, I don't have a favourite sock colour either. I like to let my feet roam wild and free. :p

EXACTLY.

And SoWiBi, I don't have a favourite sock colour either. I like to let my feet roam wild and free. :p

arrrr...:)

EXACTLY.

And SoWiBi, I don't have a favourite sock colour either. I like to let my feet roam wild and free. :p
What else do you let roam wild and free? :)

What else do you let roam wild and free? :)

Dude.

I had to ask! :p

I hate when straight couples flaunt there straightness: holding hands, getting married (and having it recognized in all states), making babies. I mean, I'm fine with heterosexuality and all, as long as they don't do it in front of my face!
well, that puts it in a new light. I suppose you're right... ok, I take it back. But i won't take the pins, hats, and shirts that say "I'm gay and proud of it" since i'm not. but if i were then i would. comprender?

well, that puts it in a new light. I suppose you're right... ok, I take it back.
wow. you get a whole armful of whatever it is you want. cookies, chocolate, candles, pancakes, you name it, you get it. you have officially made me very happy.

plus, you have contradicted the NS "rule" that "nobody will ever change their opinion because of anything anybody says on here, not in the slightest, not in any way" that a lot of people cite a lot of times..

okay, you made the day, now i'm off to bed. (2a.m.). g'night, ladies and gentlemen.

Heh, if someone makes valid arguments and introduces me to points I had not seen before, I will adjust my opinions. Having too rigid a mind set limits intellectual development.

Having too rigid a mind set limits intellectual development.
and changes and creativity. yes i will change my opinion if the other person of an argument has a much better point than i do.

Heh, if someone makes valid arguments and introduces me to points I had not seen before, I will adjust my opinions. Having too rigid a mind set limits intellectual development.

I would change my opinions, but I'm there is no need to...because I'm never wrong!

Adjusting is not precisely the same as changing.

I'm Mitch. I'm straight...Sorry to dissapoint.:)

Anyways, I didn't come here to flame, but, isn't this whole thread a bad idea? Aren't ya'll gonna get like, mad spam? People are gonna flood in here and flame the hell out of you!

Sorry, not meaning to be a homophobe or nothing---My "uncle" ( Long/Complex stroy) is super gay...I got no beef...


Anyways, just curious. You are all pretty gutsy to make a thread and "expose" yourselves. Oh well, good on you for Pride.

Its not so much an issue of pride as it is one of being yourself.

I'm Mitch. I'm straight...Sorry to dissapoint.:)

Anyways, I didn't come here to flame, but, isn't this whole thread a bad idea? Aren't ya'll gonna get like, mad spam? People are gonna flood in here and flame the hell out of you!

Sorry, not meaning to be a homophobe or nothing---My "uncle" ( Long/Complex stroy) is super gay...I got no beef...


Anyways, just curious. You are all pretty gutsy to make a thread and "expose" yourselves. Oh well, good on you for Pride.

I think this is probably the safest place to be "expose" youself as homosexual, because if somone attacks (which no one has yet), then you can easily turn off your computer, go back to bed, and sodomize your lover.

besides, im assuming that the majority of us on here who are proclaiming our same-sex tendencies are pretty open, even in real life. if we can take the discrimination on the streets, we can take it on the forums.

I'm Mitch. I'm straight...Sorry to dissapoint.:)

Anyways, I didn't come here to flame, but, isn't this whole thread a bad idea? Aren't ya'll gonna get like, mad spam? People are gonna flood in here and flame the hell out of you!

Sorry, not meaning to be a homophobe or nothing---My "uncle" ( Long/Complex stroy) is super gay...I got no beef...


Anyways, just curious. You are all pretty gutsy to make a thread and "expose" yourselves. Oh well, good on you for Pride.
hopefully people have something better to do than flame others with different views of sexuality. i'm not gay, but i'm not against them either. just cuz ur uncle is gay doesn't mean ur not a homophobe. just saying. my friend's dad is a homophobe, yet my friend is lesbian or bi or whatever she insists on labeling herself currently. she hasn't come out yet. or only to me i guess.

I think this is probably the safest place to be "expose" youself as homosexual, because if somone attacks (which no one has yet), then you can easily turn off your computer, go back to bed, and sodomize your lover.

besides, im assuming that the majority of us on here who are proclaiming our same-sex tendencies are pretty open, even in real life. if we can take the discrimination on the streets, we can take it on the forums.
Also very true.

So, since we're discussing sexuality issues (sort of), how attracted to the same (or opposite) sex do you have to be to be considered bisexual in your eyes?

Honestly, I think most people are partly bisexual, but there is a varying scale. Depending on my mood, I range between about 60/40 to 75/25 straight/gay. Does that make me bisexual? Or do I have to be closer to 50/50?

As long as you are attracted so much to the same sex so as to have sex with it and at the same time be attracted to the opposite sex, you are bisexual. It's true that most people are bisexual, yet I think their preference in the same sex is so marginally low it hardly counts. Likewise, some people's preference in the same sex is so high that attraction to the opposite sex is non existent.

im not exactly half and half but I would still call myself bi for simplicitys sake

So, since we're discussing sexuality issues (sort of), how attracted to the same (or opposite) sex do you have to be to be considered bisexual in your eyes?

Honestly, I think most people are partly bisexual, but there is a varying scale. Depending on my mood, I range between about 60/40 to 75/25 straight/gay. Does that make me bisexual? Or do I have to be closer to 50/50?

Kinsey developed a scale, 1-6 (i think), and he believed that everyone fell somewhere inbetween these numbers. I personally feel as though sexuality is too fluid and elusive to be categorized, but the human obsession is to categorize everything. In that case, I pretty much consider myself a lesbian; although I don't restrict myself from the possibility of being with a man (gael garcía bernal, how i love thee), but the instances in which i am attracted to a man are far less that those when i feel a connection to another woman. i guess i would put my numbers at 80/20 queer/straight.

oh and also, regarding "how bisexual" -- it doesn't matter your percentages, it matters how you define yourself. i have a friend who says she 80/20 straight to gay, but she considers herself bi because doesnt like the idea self-restriction. myself on the otherhand, while i may have the same percentages (in the inverse) don't really consider myself bisexual because i dont actively seek relationships with men.

you can easily turn off your computer, go back to bed, and sodomize your lover

if only mine wasn't a coupla hundred miles away :(

but it's fine, it's only a couple months. i love this thread, btw...

Heh, I would put mine at 100% gay.

if only mine wasn't a coupla hundred miles away :(

but it's fine, it's only a couple months. i love this thread, btw...

:( Long Distance is always tough.

Heh, tell me about it...especially if the guy you have a crush on lives in another country and you have never met. I hate falling in love with guys online, yet this time it was impossible not to. Best hope is to meet my crush and see where it goes from there.

Heh, tell me about it...especially if the guy you have a crush on lives in another country and you have never met. I hate falling in love with guys online, yet this time it was impossible not to. Best hope is to meet my crush and see where it goes from there.

Yeah. I've never done international, but I have done cross-country. At least this time he's in the next state. I'm counting the days until the end of January when we'll be together again.

Hehe, well the USA is a federation, so it might as well be another country!

The guy I like is in Sweden, not too far from the UK luckily, so its not impossible to meet at some point at all.

I hope your meeting goes well :)

Hehe, well the USA is a federation, so it might as well be another country!

The guy I like is in Sweden, not too far from the UK luckily, so its not impossible to meet at some point at all.

I hope your meeting goes well :)

I hope you get your chance soon! I know how hard it is to wait.

Thanks :)

Hey, since I have deduced from context clues (yes, i know, i should be a detective) that you are both males, and since this seems to be the LGBTQI thread, how are gay and lesbian relations in your community?

according to curves magazine, i live in one of the lesbian-est cities in america, so i have to admit i dont run into gay men very often. but when i do, or when i did in my previous state, there always seemed to be this tension. one time i had a man tell me that i was "a good dyke" because i wasnt "all gross and hairy" like the others. and although ive never heard any women say things to that affect, there always seems to be this cloud that overshadows everything when gay and lesbian relations are mentioned.

have you noticed this, or am i making it up?

In Britain its pretty much fine as far as I have seen. Lesbians and gay guys tend to get along very well. Up North especially.

I'm just joining this thread—hi, I'm Jennislore (or Jeneven), I'm a lesbian.

I'm Mitch. I'm straight...Sorry to dissapoint.:)

Anyways, I didn't come here to flame, but, isn't this whole thread a bad idea? Aren't ya'll gonna get like, mad spam? People are gonna flood in here and flame the hell out of you!

Pffft. Let them come, I await them. This fag's not intimidated one bit, no matter how bigoted the flamers are, and no matter how much froth they have at the mouth. Besides, it's not like we have to care one bit about their opinions, now do we?



Anyways, just curious. You are all pretty gutsy to make a thread and "expose" yourselves. Oh well, good on you for Pride.
I would like to take all the credit for myself. Thank you :D

To be honest, I wouldn't really know. For whatever reason, I just don't have contact with lesbians. All of the non-heteros I know are gay men and bi women. And a couple guys who keep flip-flopping between gay and bi. The one time I was around any significant number of lesbians was at this really bad bar that, methinks, is supposed to cater to a crowd much older than me. So yeah, that's a long way to say I couldn't tell ya. :cool:

Heh all lesbians I have met are really nice women, and you would really never tell that they were lesbian if you didn't know. I'm not one of these gay guys who dislikes lesbians (WHY would we? :confused: ).

Heh, I would put mine at 100% gay.
That would be two of us. We really are made for each other *wink, wink*

I don't really know where I am anymore. Like, last summer I found myself checking out a woman for the first time in... um... maybe six or seven years? And it was the first time I hadn't been forcing myself to check out a woman, really. Bah, whatever. I love my man and I'd never trade him for any woman ever.

Heh all lesbians I have met are really nice women, and you would really never tell that they were lesbian if you didn't know. I'm not one of these gay guys who dislikes lesbians (WHY would we? :confused: ).

I don't know! I mean, really, why would ANYONE?

trade him for any woman ever.
Awww, and I just so happened to have a woman handy... :p

You sure you won't trade him? :(

I don't know! I mean, really, why would ANYONE?
Small mindedness and fear of the unknown are the best excuses I can think of that people tend to use.

Awww, and I just so happened to have a woman handy... :p

You sure you won't trade him? :(

well, i suppose it's possible... depends on the woman.

:: slaps self :: No! I can't!

Seriously though, he's great. I'm going to stop now because I feel like I'm bragging. :(

That would be two of us. We really are made for each other *wink, wink*
:fluffle: :p

Hello, I am a heterosexual, but I tolerate and respect gays as long as they don't...well....hit on myself. Not that thats happened, but let's just say if that does happen....:gundge: ;) :D

I actually just get really flattered. I mean, I have a girlfriend and all (I'm a guy), but I still appreciate a compliment (which is really what being hit on is). I generally play along, actually much more than I with girls that I'm not interested in.

Anyway, funny story. So at a summer camp I was at, a gay guy and a lesbian girl were in his room after the mandatory "one sex (or no sex, depending on what the word means) in a room" lights out policy came into effect. When they were caught, they were both forced to clean some stuff in the morning. One of those bizarrely ironic things.

Seriously though, he's great. I'm going to stop now because I feel like I'm bragging. :(

I'd brag, too, but I got dumped unceremoniously by my ex after three years together. For another guy. *slumps on his chair* :(

I consider myself to be bisexual, meaning that I find women and men equally attractive (for anyone who hasn't figured it out yet, I am female). I don't care if people call me confused or just plain horny, I do not find either of those descriptions to accurately portray how I feel, which is that both genders have equally attractive qualities to me.

Now for my question. My best friend is gay. He has been with a woman in the past, maybe a couple (I'm not certain), and says that he can't stand women in general. Except me apparently. Whenever he is around me without the presence of his husband, he is constantly groping me in various places. Usually I just laugh and smack him playfully, telling him to stop teasing me. I am wondering why he flirts with me so brashly when it seems to go against his nature. I don't want to do anything with him and would rather just keep our friendship, but if he's gay why is he constantly all over me? A little insight anybody?

I'd brag, too, but I got dumped unceremoniously by my ex after three years together. For another guy. *slumps on his chair* :(

Oh no! I'm so sorry!

I consider myself to be bisexual, meaning that I find women and men equally attractive (for anyone who hasn't figured it out yet, I am female). I don't care if people call me confused or just plain horny, I do not find either of those descriptions to accurately portray how I feel, which is that both genders have equally attractive qualities to me.

Now for my question. My best friend is gay. He has been with a woman in the past, maybe a couple (I'm not certain), and says that he can't stand women in general. Except me apparently. Whenever he is around me without the presence of his husband, he is constantly groping me in various places. Usually I just laugh and smack him playfully, telling him to stop teasing me. I am wondering why he flirts with me so brashly when it seems to go against his nature. I don't want to do anything with him and would rather just keep our friendship, but if he's gay why is he constantly all over me? A little insight anybody?
I think he is just having fun with you :) It seems he trusts you a lot, maybe like a sister.

I am wondering why he flirts with me so brashly when it seems to go against his nature. I don't want to do anything with him and would rather just keep our friendship, but if he's gay why is he constantly all over me? A little insight anybody?

I flirt with my male spanish teacher, ALL OF THE TIME. I don't know why, I can't help it. I'm not like attracted to him really, but he is just really clever and continues the joke in a friendly way. I think some (platonic) relationships can have that natural flirtatious edge without it meaning much.

I consider myself to be bisexual, meaning that I find women and men equally attractive (for anyone who hasn't figured it out yet, I am female). I don't care if people call me confused or just plain horny, I do not find either of those descriptions to accurately portray how I feel, which is that both genders have equally attractive qualities to me.

Now for my question. My best friend is gay. He has been with a woman in the past, maybe a couple (I'm not certain), and says that he can't stand women in general. Except me apparently. Whenever he is around me without the presence of his husband, he is constantly groping me in various places. Usually I just laugh and smack him playfully, telling him to stop teasing me. I am wondering why he flirts with me so brashly when it seems to go against his nature. I don't want to do anything with him and would rather just keep our friendship, but if he's gay why is he constantly all over me? A little insight anybody?

I dunno. All I can really say is sometimes my female friends and I will play. Like EM said it's all about trust. We know it's nothing. But we definately both know that. Have you said anything to him?

I think he is just having fun with you :) It seems he trusts you a lot, maybe like a sister.

We have always joked that we were twins with a five year difference. Still, how brotherly can groping your sister's breasts be? You're probably right, though.

We have always joked that we were twins with a five year difference. Still, how brotherly can groping your sister's breasts be? You're probably right, though.
Yeah well you're not really brother and sister, but as I said, probably like brother and sister ;) Sounds a bit like Will and Grace actually :p

Oh no! I'm so sorry!
About what? You're not the bastard that let me down. :p

I'm (mostly) over it now anyway. I celebrated my first year of celibacy last week.

We have always joked that we were twins with a five year difference. Still, how brotherly can groping your sister's breasts be? You're probably right, though.

I've known gay guys that are a little obsessed with boobs, not really in a sexual manner, but obsessed nonetheless. It's probably more that he can trust you and not worry about it.

I dunno. All I can really say is sometimes my female friends and I will play. Like EM said it's all about trust. We know it's nothing. But we definately both know that. Have you said anything to him?

I haven't said too much about it because I have just assumed that he is playing around for the most part. I don't want to make him uncomfortable by confronting him, but some of his actions and comments make me wonder.

Just ask politely then, as a by the way statement in the middle of a conversation. Don't make it seem too contrived though.

About what? You're not the bastard that let me down. :p

I'm (mostly) over it now anyway. I celebrated my first year of celibacy last week.

Oy, right, I always use "sorry" in technically inappropriate ways... It's good to hear you're over it, though. Or, at least, mostly over it.

I've known gay guys that are a little obsessed with boobs, not really in a sexual manner, but obsessed nonetheless. It's probably more that he can trust you and not worry about it.

You may have a point there. I have gone to countless gay bars with him and I am constantly surprised by the amount of attention my breasts get by the guys there. I have had many guys joke with me about how "if they weren't gay", but I don't pay much attention to it. I know it's said in fun.

I've known gay guys that are a little obsessed with boobs, not really in a sexual manner, but obsessed nonetheless. It's probably more that he can trust you and not worry about it.

Hehe, reminds me of one of my exes. He wasn't obsessed with boobs, though, he was TERRIFIED of them. One of our friends used to shake her boobs at him. He actually fell out of a chair and rolled around on the floor squealing. Good times...

Oy, right, I always use "sorry" in technically inappropriate ways... It's good to hear you're over it, though. Or, at least, mostly over it.
Well, mostly meaning I've learned to live and be happy without him.

Haven't been able to get into a meaningful relationship since then, though. I suppose nostalgia is still holding me back. Then again, he was my first, and we were in a very serious relationship: I've been told those are the worst when the time comes to forget and move on.

I've known gay guys that are a little obsessed with boobs, not really in a sexual manner, but obsessed nonetheless. It's probably more that he can trust you and not worry about it.

Yeah, I get that sometimes too, even if they don't sexually turn me on :p We can still appreciate female beauty, even if its not erotic to us. ;)

Yeah, I get that sometimes too, even if they don't sexually turn me on :p We can still appreciate female beauty, even if its not erotic to us. ;)
Yes. Women can be attractive and beautiful. The have a kind of aesthetic beauty to them.

Just like a painting, a color, or a scenery can be beautiful and touching :p

Exactly :p

Yes. Women can be attractive and beautiful. The have a kind of aesthetic beauty to them.

Just like a painting, a color, or a scenery can be beautiful and touching :p

Hear hear!

Hehe, reminds me of one of my exes. He wasn't obsessed with boobs, though, he was TERRIFIED of them. One of our friends used to shake her boobs at him. He actually fell out of a chair and rolled around on the floor squealing. Good times...

Now that is fun. One time to get back at him I shoved his face into one of my boobs (ever heard of death by tittie? I can do that). It was hilarious to watch him flail around screaming like a banshee.

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys :confused: Its always intrigued me.

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys :confused: Its always intrigued me.

Well... my boyfriend, who tried sex with a man once and said it absolutely wasn't for him, thinks Billy Zane is hot.

Now that is fun. One time to get back at him I shoved his face into one of my boobs (ever heard of death by tittie? I can do that). It was hilarious to watch him flail around screaming like a banshee.

LOL that rocks! Personally, I take such things in stride.

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys :confused: Its always intrigued me.
I'm sure they can, but most of them have been conditionned to pretend to want to barf at the thought of another naked male.

Failing to be utterly disgusted(or at least pretend to be) would immediately amount to being labeled as "one of those queer, gay fags that like having bum sex with guys".:rolleyes:

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys :confused: Its always intrigued me.

im sure they can, but are probably more hesitant to openly admit it.
(straight) women are allowed to appreciate and comment on the beauty of other women feely, but the same liberty isnt socially alloted to straight men.

le sigh.

im sure they can, but are probably more hesitant to openly admit it.
(straight) women are allowed to appreciate and comment on the beauty of other women feely, but the same liberty isnt socially alloted to straight men.

le sigh.
Beat you to it! :D

Well... my boyfriend, who tried sex with a man once and said it absolutely wasn't for him, thinks Billy Zane is hot.
Yeah, I guess its within human nature to be able to appreciate beauty. I guess most straight guys are just too afraid to express it due to a fear of coming off as gay. :rolleyes:

PS: Bah, you both beat me to it :p

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys :confused: Its always intrigued me.
Definitively, yes. I'm straight and male.

Haven't been able to get into a meaningful relationship since then, though. I suppose nostalgia is still holding me back. Then again, he was my first, and we were in a very serious relationship: I've been told those are the worst when the time comes to forget and move on.

The first serious relationship is hard to get over, but eventually you just have to move on. Boys can be jerks, no?

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys Its always intrigued me.

I've known straight guys who can - and do so openly. I've known others who I think refrain from admitting it because they might be seen as being gay.

I think a lot of what we admit as beautifiul comes from social conditioning, and that really isn't how it should be. People stare at me when I say another woman is hot, but I see no problem with it (and neither does my boyfriend, as long as I don't run off with her =). But there is an even higher stigma on a man admitting that another guy is attractive, especially if the guy is straight and isn't actually sexually attracted to him.

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys :confused: Its always intrigued me.

I actually know a lot of straight guys that have no problem commenting on beautiful men. They usually include disclaimers, like "I don't want him, but he is hot," or "However I feel, I can tell that he's hot."

Bloody social conditioning :p

Beat you to it! :D

Crap! Darn this slow wireless connection.

Anyway, time to go dream of gorgeous guys whisking me away :p See you guys another time. A bientot.

I actually know a lot of straight guys that have no problem commenting on beautiful men. They usually include disclaimers, like "I don't want him, but he is hot," or "However I feel, I can tell that he's hot."
I don't feel the need to qualify. I simply (and often do) say that another guy is attractive. I kind of enjoy the sexual ambiguity that comes along with it. Exposing people's prejudices without being open about it, essentially.

I don't feel the need to qualify. I simply (and often do) say that another guy is attractive. I kind of enjoy the sexual ambiguity that comes along with it. Exposing people's prejudices without being open about it, essentially.

That makes me happy. I wish more people could go along like that.

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys :confused: Its always intrigued me.

I have straight friends who will admit another guy is a "stud" or that "if i were gay, I'd do him" (The later specifically of one of my friends on Ryan Cabrera on his MTV show). If straight guys are comfortable enough with their own sexuality I've noticed that they don't have a problem admiting if another guy is cute.

btw. my name is Eddie, 20 y/o, a History/Political Science double major at a school that was ranked in the top ten of the least gay friendly colleges in america.

the general is a marvelous member thats as clean as I can say it

I have straight friends who will admit another guy is a "stud" or that "if i were gay, I'd do him" (The later specifically of one of my friends on Ryan Cabrera on his MTV show). If straight guys are comfortable enough with their own sexuality I've noticed that they don't have a problem admiting if another guy is cute.

btw. my name is Eddie, 20 y/o, a History/Political Science double major at a school that was ranked in the top ten of the least gay friendly colleges in america.

yikes. mind if ask, where you found these rankings (i would love to find mine) and what school you attend?

Bob Jones University, perhaps?

"...schools that
demonstrated a low acceptance of the LGBT community. The 10 schools
that ranked high on the list are: Hampden-Sydney College, Hampden-
Sydney, Va.; University of Notre Dame, South Bend, Ind.; Baylor
University, Waco, Texas; Wheaton College, Wheaton, Ill.; Grove City
College, Grove City, Pa.; University of Tennessee-Knoxville,
Knoxville, Tenn.; Texas A & M University-College Station; College of
the Holy Cross, Worcester, Mass.; Samford University, Birmingham,
Ala.; and Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah."

I attend Hampden-Sydney College, interestingly an all-male college (one of only 3 left in the US). The list was compiled by the princeton review and there is an article on it at: http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid19997.asp

Well... my boyfriend, who tried sex with a man once and said it absolutely wasn't for him, thinks Billy Zane is hot.

Well, atleast he was man enough to say he tried it, and didn't like it; damn, now only if the rest of the worlds males had that view, then maybe we wouldn't have such a large number of egotistical wankers who think that their 'masculinity' is under threat by the existance of use gays :p

Well, atleast he was man enough to say he tried it, and didn't like it; damn, now only if the rest of the worlds males had that view, then maybe we wouldn't have such a large number of egotistical wankers who think that their 'masculinity' is under threat by the existance of use gays :p

Hmmm. Well, I don't feel under threat from gay men, but I have absolutely no desire to have sex with another man. Serious question-do you believe that someone like me should go ahead and try it just to see what it's like? Is that really necessary to eliminate homophobia?

Well, atleast he was man enough to say he tried it, and didn't like it; damn, now only if the rest of the worlds males had that view, then maybe we wouldn't have such a large number of egotistical wankers who think that their 'masculinity' is under threat by the existance of use gays :p

Yeah, unfortunately instead of just saying, "I was curious and tried it" it comes with a whole barrage of excuses. "I was drunk, wired and extremely f-ed up. It's too bad so many guys who explore their curiousity feel threatened by the ever-judging eye of society.

Hiya,

I'm a mostly gay guy myself, though I currently live with a girlfriend. Love's a funny thing sometimes. :)

Hmmm. Well, I don't feel under threat from gay men, but I have absolutely no desire to have sex with another man. Serious question-do you believe that someone like me should go ahead and try it just to see what it's like? Is that really necessary to eliminate homophobia?
Hehe, think of the poor bloke you'd be getting it on with. I can't imagine that'd be much fun.

Hehe, think of the poor bloke you'd be getting it on with. I can't imagine that'd be much fun.

:D fair point. I guess that answers the question. He gets the worst lay of his life, but I answer my question. I'll maybe just go fishing instead.

Hmmm. Well, I don't feel under threat from gay men, but I have absolutely no desire to have sex with another man. Serious question-do you believe that someone like me should go ahead and try it just to see what it's like? Is that really necessary to eliminate homophobia?

Or simply just say, "it doesn't float by boat, if if you like it, well, good for you" - thats the mature way of putting it.

For me, if a person likes having sex with a female - well, good on ya, fill your boots and enjoy yourself; but for me, it 'isn't my bag baby' :p

Yeah, unfortunately instead of just saying, "I was curious and tried it" it comes with a whole barrage of excuses. "I was drunk, wired and extremely f-ed up. It's too bad so many guys who explore their curiousity feel threatened by the ever-judging eye of society.

True, its like the issue about guys complimenting each other; hell, giving another guy a hug has recently just become a new phenomenon; but then again, it has to do with the whole masclunity and expectations of it and the double standard that surrounds it.

If a female goes off and tries something non-stereotypical in the way of a job, or wears something that is considered 'masculine', no one gives it a second thought, but if a guy does the same thing, there are big questions about his sexuality, as if some how, the way he acts is the defining factor as to which way he swings :)

I'm Mitch. I'm straight...Sorry to dissapoint.:)

Anyways, I didn't come here to flame, but, isn't this whole thread a bad idea? Aren't ya'll gonna get like, mad spam? People are gonna flood in here and flame the hell out of you!

Sorry, not meaning to be a homophobe or nothing---My "uncle" ( Long/Complex stroy) is super gay...I got no beef...


Anyways, just curious. You are all pretty gutsy to make a thread and "expose" yourselves. Oh well, good on you for Pride.

Expose, you say?

Hello, my name is Paul. 21. And I'm gay (as in happy)

I wonder if straight guys can appreciate beauty in other guys :confused: Its always intrigued me.

Yes.

Yes.
seconded

haha lol ur t3h poooof

thirded, course they can...

i guess i'd fourth that, seeing how a lesbian can see a man's beauty too?

Straight men are definitely capable of appreciating beauty in other men, though as has been said, social conditioning mostly keeps them from saying so.

Most of my straight, male friends are quite happy to comment on cute guys once they have a few drinks and their inhibitions are lowered, some even go so far as to state that whatever guy would be a good lay without qualifiers. Only a couple of them are comfortable enough to make such comments without being intoxicated, though, unfortunately. One of my good friends even propositioned once because he said he wanted to try the whole "gay sex" thing and see what it was like. It's sad that he's straight, because he was pretty good, despite hesitance and inexperience. Ah well, such is life, I suppose.

As a gay man, I have no problem telling someone that whatever woman is gorgeous or hot, or whatever. It IS possible to appreciate beauty in another person without any sexual strings attached. Only idiotic social conventions tell us different.

Oooohhh didn't see this thread before...

*get's out bible*

hhhmmm. Genesis 19 if i rmemember rightly...

Oooohhh didn't see this thread before...

*get's out bible*

hhhmmm. Genesis 19 if i rmemember rightly...

For those of us who cannot recite the bible verse by verse...care to elaborate on your point?

For those of us who cannot recite the bible verse by verse...care to elaborate on your point?

Story of Sodom, it ends with it's destruction...

Story of Sodom, it ends with it's destruction...

A story that has pretty much nothing to do with the topic at hand, and everything to do with hospitality and possibly promiscuity....

A story that has pretty much nothing to do with the topic at hand, and everything to do with hospitality and possibly promiscuity....

Both!

"Hey, come on in, baby. I'll show you to my bedroom.... What? No, all those other girls tonight meant nothing, you're the one for me..."

--Several minutes later--

"Ahhh. Okay, I'm done. Now get the fuck out of my house. What are still doing here? Get the fuck out. NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY FUCKING COFFEE!"

Edit: Thou shalt not do that.

Straight men are definitely capable of appreciating beauty in other men, though as has been said, social conditioning mostly keeps them from saying so.

Most of my straight, male friends are quite happy to comment on cute guys once they have a few drinks and their inhibitions are lowered, some even go so far as to state that whatever guy would be a good lay without qualifiers. Only a couple of them are comfortable enough to make such comments without being intoxicated, though, unfortunately. One of my good friends even propositioned once because he said he wanted to try the whole "gay sex" thing and see what it was like. It's sad that he's straight, because he was pretty good, despite hesitance and inexperience. Ah well, such is life, I suppose.

As a gay man, I have no problem telling someone that whatever woman is gorgeous or hot, or whatever. It IS possible to appreciate beauty in another person without any sexual strings attached. Only idiotic social conventions tell us different.
As a straight guy, I'm always slightly amused at the theory that we've all got a little gay in us. Yes, I have opinions on other males' looks. If you put Peewee Herman next to Brad Pitt and ask me which is the better looking guy, I'm going to say Brad Pitt, of course. If you put a three-legged mutt with one eye, and a skin condition next to a purebred Great Dane, and ask me which is better looking, guess which one I'll pick.
Of all the gay guys and lesbians I know, and I know a few, I can't think of one who I don't respect, if not just for the the bravery to be who they are. That doesn't mean I think everyone of them is superdooper.
Bottom line, as far as I run my life is, you judge people individually, regardless of all the myriad forms they take. That's actually a big part of what makes life interesting.
If I had been born a woman, I'd have no choice but to be a lesbian.

Story of Sodom, it ends with it's destruction...

He just wants hot gay sex :D

See, we Comanches ain't much for gays. In fact, the Comanche language has no word for homosexual. Back in the plain-roamin' days, if a baby boy had long eyelashes, we threw him in the lake and that was that. But things have changed. Like, beating senseless your child is now abuse and not discipline. Ah well....if they don't take my frybread I won't complain about 'em.;)

Story of Sodom, it ends with it's destruction...

Oh yeah, that old story. Yawn.

Back in the plain-roamin' days, if a baby boy had long eyelashes, we threw him in the lake and that was that.

what? you eliminated all the good-looking guys? pfft.

yikes. mind if ask, where you found these rankings (i would love to find mine) and what school you attend?

Bob Jones University, perhaps?
I had a teacher who went there :p He was a Christian nutcase, almost fanatical.

He just wants hot gay sex :D
No, no you're confusing him for me. :p

I myself am not gay, but gay people are the same as anyone else, except usually nicer and more tolerant.
Nice, not always, but in my experiances they are nice people. Tolerant:( not always towards people who dont have the same political agenda (once again thats only some )

Story of Sodom, it ends with it's destruction...

Yeap, and its sad how people try to bring it up; it speaks volumes how there are so many people who there so fucking jealous of fabulous people such as ourselves - high levels of desposable income, higher rate of college attendance; its bloody hard to be so great, but I guess thats a burden we have to carry ourselves as well walk through life on a red carpet :)

Nice, not always, but in my experiances they are nice people. Tolerant:( not always towards people who dont have the same political agenda (once again thats only some )

Meh, for me, I have no political agenda; I'm a libertarian, what your views are, are of little concern of mine, what does come to my concern is when you may come and start demanding that I abide by your moral guidelines as drawn up by your particular religion - thats when the line is crossed.

Its the old story of keep the government out of the bed room, out of home and out of people lives - the left AND right need to know, if I wanted social engineering, I'd move to North Korea in a flash.

Nice, not always, but in my experiances they are nice people. Tolerant:( not always towards people who dont have the same political agenda (once again thats only some )

Agenda? o_O

The only agenda I have is the one where I write dates for due papers and university exams. That whole "gay agenda" nonsense is just that; nonsense.

I don't have time to try to subvert society, enlist today's youth in my army of rainbow warriors, and make social institutions crumble. I DO have a life, you know. :rolleyes:

Agenda? o_O

The only agenda I have is the one where I write dates for due papers and university exams. That whole "gay agenda" nonsense is just that; nonsense.

I don't have time to try to subvert society, enlist today's youth in my army of rainbow warriors, and make social institutions crumble. I DO have a life, you know. :rolleyes:

I don't know. I can usually find time in my busy homo schedule of queering up my straight friends, agonising for hours over my clothes, and having unprotected bum sex with thousands of men to singlehandedly cause the downfall of moral society. All in a day's work for us sinn3r gayz, right?

I don't know. I can usually find time in my busy homo schedule of queering up my straight friends, agonising for hours over my clothes, and having unprotected bum sex with thousands of men to singlehandedly cause the downfall of moral society. All in a day's work for us sinn3r gayz, right?

Oh definitely. I mean, it all started when I was introduced to feminist thought. It inspired me to "turn" gay, made me abandon my family, and required that I practice witchcraft. Pat Roberston was so right! It's like he was talking about me specifically!

Agenda? o_O



shh now, only because you missed the last secret meeting doesn't mean there is none, man! so come over here for a sec and stop talking about things you don't know about!

shh now, only because you missed the last secret meeting doesn't mean there is none, man! so come over here for a sec and stop talking about things you don't know about!

Hey, I saw you at the last meeting! Were you the one you devised that super gas that turns any kids exposed to it into raging homos within four weeks? It's really helped the Recruitment Department guys out!

no, that wasn't me, that was our dearest skaladora. i was the first one he tested it on, though.

no, that wasn't me, that was our dearest skaladora. i was the first one he tested it on, though.

Ahh, well then, welcome to the fold.

Oooohhh didn't see this thread before...

*get's out bible*

hhhmmm. Genesis 19 if i rmemember rightly...

If you are going to interupt this thread of what seems to me to be fair and decent people and try to make them feel EVIL for living there lives then i'm going to have to fire back at you with my own christian beliefs which is this
JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED!!!!!
that's right God doesn't want you to judge others he wants you to be kind and lovinging and compasionate to EVERYONE
Yes i relise the bible says that homosexuality is a sin but it says that alot of other things are sins as well. I sin how are my sins any worse than any one elses???? THERE NOT!!!!
So I guess the point i'm getting at here is leave these nice people alone and just accept them for who they are.
And if you are going to fire your religious beliefs at other people then maybe you should read ALL of the content and not just pick the points you like the best to make others feel bad about themselves and you feel good about yourself.
O and my names Coralee 19 female straight christian and no problem with anyone or there sexual orientation. It's your life not mine so live it how you see fit. And sorry for my rant.

Ahh, well then, welcome to the fold.

oh, and here i went thinking it was just these folds that you were avoiding..

oh, and here i went thinking it was just these folds that you were avoiding..

Hmm. You have a point there. We need new terminology.

well, it is not me who is the native speaker here. all *i* do is parrot things you folks say. so..the challenge is up to you, methinks.

[and if this is to spur you on to it some more, if you don't come up with something quickly, i shall think of you as covered in..folds..until you do. and if you give me enough time i might as well draw,scan and post a picture of it.so.hurry.]

well, it is not me who is the native speaker here. all *i* do is parrot things you folks say. so..the challenge is up to you, methinks.

[and if this is to spur you on to it some more, if you don't come up with something quickly, i shall think of you as covered in..folds..until you do. and if you give me enough time i might as well draw,scan and post a picture of it.so.hurry.]

Does "Welcome to the Dark Side, Darth SoWiBi" work for you?

I'm not gay, but if a guy wants to blow me I would be happy to let him. As long as he's clean shaven.

I'm not gay, but if a guy wants to blow me I would be happy to let him. As long as he's clean shaven.

Heh heh. Don't want to get "pash rash" on your balls, eh? ;)

Yeah, it sounds pretty painful. Maybe if his moustache were peach fuzz soft I would be ok.

Yeah, it sounds pretty painful. Maybe if his moustache were peach fuzz soft I would be ok.

It's not too bad, usually. I haven't had any problems with guys who had decent facial hair. The real killer is when the guy giving you a blow job just has stubble. That can be pretty painful. Moreso if you're one of those guys that shaves his crotch, I would imagine.

Interesting. Ok then, well trimmed beards are in, fashionable two day stubble is out.

Does "Welcome to the Dark Side, Darth SoWiBi" work for you?

drop the darth, but the rest..fine with me. shall i never slip. *raises glass and beret*

I'm not gay, but if a guy wants to blow me I would be happy to let him. As long as he's clean shaven.
That is sooo hot :eek: :p

I'm not gay, but if a guy wants to blow me I would be happy to let him. As long as he's clean shaven.

I suppose there's a certain logic to that. No point in turning down a perfectly good BJ?:D

JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED!!!!!

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

*OW* Alright, now who threw that?!?

Me.

:)

Cookies! Yay! :fluffle: *smooch*


I believe we should all introduce ourselves properly:

My name's Fred, I'm a comp-sci student in Québec city, Canada, and I'm gay.

Pleased to meet you.

Fred is an awsome person!!! Life Savor!:D :D

Heh heh. Don't want to get "pash rash" on your balls, eh? ;)
For the record, said rash is not welcome on female genitalia either.

I'm bisexual, and I once had a friend ask me whether women were better than men at going down. I replied (honestly) that the only reason women edge ahead is because I've yet to have a female sex partner who wore stubble.

Just think about it, lads: that's such a lovely region on the female body, right? So why do you want to take sandpaper to it? Be kind to the vagina, and it will be kind to you!

For the record, said rash is not welcome on female genitalia either.

I'm bisexual, and I once had a friend ask me whether women were better than men at going down. I replied (honestly) that the only reason women edge ahead is because I've yet to have a female sex partner who wore stubble.

Just think about it, lads: that's such a lovely region on the female body, right? So why do you want to take sandpaper to it? Be kind to the vagina, and it will be kind to you!sorry Bottle, but I just gotta ask...

Would a beard be better then?

Fred is an awsome person!!! Life Savor!:D :D
Lol, come on now. You're making me feel like I have to pretend to be falsely modest ;)

Be kind to the vagina, and it will be kind to you!
For some reason, this sentence made me collaspe in laughter. Go figure.

Must be because she said "vagina" xD

After I came out to my friends 12 of them came out to me... random yeah, but very interesting. :p

After I came out to my friends 12 of them came out to me... random yeah, but very interesting. :p
Really? 12 of them? Either you have a whole damn lot of friends, or you're statistically very lucky.

Any cute single young men in their early twenties amongst them, by any chance? ;)

According to some study done a while ago something in the area of 15% of my entire counties population identifies as gay... that's pretty high.

According to some study done a while ago something in the area of 15% of my entire counties population identifies as gay... that's pretty high.
Where do you live? I might want to consider moving there ;)

Long Island, NY. Boring place, but it's damn easy to get a guy lol.

I walked up into a bar the other night and got hit on by four guys, and this wasn't even a gay bar!

Long Island, NY. Boring place, but it's damn easy to get a guy lol.

I walked up into a bar the other night and got hit on by four guys, and this wasn't even a gay bar!
I SO need something like that to happen to me *le sigh*

I had to brush 'em off 'cause I got my man. Shoulda seen the look on his face with all those guys coming up on me like that, haha.

I came into this rather late I see, but hi! I'm Meph (real name's Alex) and live in New England (the north east) in the USA and I am gay.

:3 and as my friend Beth says "Yay Gay!"

Lol, "yay gay" isn't that from a movie, I'm sure I've heard it somewhere.

I guess I came here late in the topic, but hello everybody! I'm 17, I live in Michigan, USA, and I'm a gay guy. I've told 9 of my friends about my sexuality while on a class trip to Europe (lots of fun :D ) but I haven't told anyone in the family yet.

Everyone in my family knows, except my dad. I'm tellin' him when I'm already moved out, lol.

Why does this thread feel like Gays Anonymous? And is there a real-life group like that?

sorry Bottle, but I just gotta ask...

Would a beard be better then?
A well-tended beard is definitely better than stubble. I'm guessing because with a beard the hairs are longer, so they're more likely to be brushing up along the flat of the hair, whereas with stubble it's the point of the hair that is poking into tender regions.

For some reason, this sentence made me collaspe in laughter. Go figure.

Must be because she said "vagina" xD
Tee hee. ;)

Makes me think of that scene from Varsity Blues: "Everybody say it with me: pee-nis, pee-nis, pee-nis, vah-gi-nah, vah-gi-nah, vah-gi-nah!"

Why does this thread feel like Gays Anonymous? And is there a real-life group like that?
Its all the peolpe standing up and saying..."Hi my name's is........and I'm a homo.":rolleyes:

Hi my name is LBQ...and I'm straight...brothers gay though if that gives me an in?:p

Tee hee. ;)

Makes me think of that scene from Varsity Blues: "Everybody say it with me: pee-nis, pee-nis, pee-nis, vah-gi-nah, vah-gi-nah, vah-gi-nah!"

Noooo!! My heath teacher was saying that in a song form to get us "ready" for our little lesson about p&v.....And YUCK what a class that was.

Its all the peolpe standing up and saying..."Hi my name's is........and I'm a homo.":rolleyes:

Hi my name is LBQ...and I'm straight...brothers gay though if that gives me an in?:p
Yeah, you're in. I like to be inclusive, and this is my thread, so anybody can get in... Unless I don't like em, that is :-p

Yes, I'm a cruel and fickle mistress. So what's your point? :p

Hello, my name is Dirk, and I'm a homosapien. and a homoerectus...hehe homoerectus...

Tee hee. ;)

Makes me think of that scene from Varsity Blues: "Everybody say it with me: pee-nis, pee-nis, pee-nis, vah-gi-nah, vah-gi-nah, vah-gi-nah!"
Hey I've been meaning to tell you I love your sig!
The quote is great too! :fluffle:

Why does this thread feel like Gays Anonymous? And is there a real-life group like that?I mean aside from the 700 Club.

I mean aside from the 700 Club.

:p

I'm not sure. I wouldn't know anyways. I'm just the NSG Pancake.