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If it isn't about a Christian holiday offending liberals(conservatives couldn't care less), it's the blacks getting into college because they're black(which many of them find insulting). PC must be stopped at all costs before Christianity is banned and al-queida gets a free ticket here because of the minority thing.

Since you seem so adept at making hugely inaccurate gross generalizations, I'll just Godwin this thread now and call you a Nazi.

There should be mutual respect in human relations, and all citizens should be equal, yet I do think PC goes a tad too far sometimes in trying to cure social inequities.

I agree, PC is shit. I much prefer a blackberry or a laptop to browse the internet. PC are so big and they can't be taken anywhere.

Since you seem so adept at making hugely inaccurate gross generalizations, I'll just Godwin this thread now and call you a Nazi.

Godwin? :confused:

If it isn't about a Christian holiday offending liberals(conservatives couldn't care less), it's the blacks getting into college because they're black(which many of them find insulting). PC must be stopped at all costs before Christianity is banned and al-queida gets a free ticket here because of the minority thing.

Interesting that you missed the conservative examples, but I'll just ignore your attempted straw man.

Political Correctness is based on the assumption that words actually change people. As can easily be observed on this forum, that is not the case. People never change, period, especially when insulted.

Since you seem so adept at making hugely inaccurate gross generalizations, I'll just Godwin this thread now and call you a Nazi.

Quirk's exception clearly states that intentional invocation of Godwins law is inefectual. (link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Other_laws_and_corollaries)

Sorry missunderstood you. Political correctness is NOT needed. Oh I wish I could retract my vote.

I find PC to be a disgusting, filthy, horrible travesty of a concept as wonderful and brilliant as language. Political correctness is nothing more but a sickening attempt at brainwashing by telling people not only what they want to hear, but telling it the way they want to hear it as well. Language's function is to facilitate cooperation, not aid in deceit. If you can't gather the courage to just say what you think, maybe there's a problem with what you think?

Really, they should stop tainting humanity's heritage with things like this.

Some people take it too far though. As I said, I am all for equal rights for all and mutual respect, but PC shouldn't exceed its aims, ie create a new state of inequalities.

An example of PC overexceeding its mandate is the French national anthem, La Marseillese. Many think it is vehemently racist, yet they fail to see the context in which it was written. They misconstrue the meanings behind the words, and see it as an expression of french arrogance. Were they to educate themselves as to its meaning, perhaps they would stop being such PC Nazis.

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There should be mutual respect in human relations, and all citizens should be equal, yet I do think PC goes a tad too far sometimes in trying to cure social inequities.
Ditto.

Quirk's exception clearly states that intentional invocation of Godwins law is inefectual. (link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Other_laws_and_corollaries)

Sorry missunderstood you. Political correctness is NOT needed. Oh I wish I could retract my vote.

I refuse to accept any of the corrolaries to Godwin's law. :)

PC is so 90s!

Every time someone is politically correct I masturbate and Dunkum kills a kitten.

Meh.
I voted for that because... Dunno. Don't care.

I agree, PC is shit. I much prefer a blackberry or a laptop to browse the internet. PC are so big and they can't be taken anywhere.
Haha. Indeed. I wish I had a laptop.

Also, wtf @ this poll, did the author even try to make sense?

Haha. Indeed. I wish I had a laptop.

Also, wtf @ this poll, did the author even try to make sense?

Making sense is PC thuggery. :p

There should be mutual respect in human relations, and all citizens should be equal, yet I do think PC goes a tad too far sometimes in trying to cure social inequities.

That's more or less what I think.

There should be mutual respect in human relations, and all citizens should be equal, yet I do think PC goes a tad too far sometimes in trying to cure social inequities.

What about the suggestion that the inequalities are so large and ingrained, that the '1st generation' of fixes for them (the _current_ PC model) is therefore bound to be crude at best? Later fixes (later 'PC' models) will become more sophisticated and nuanced, but an initially crude 'solution' is a necessary, if occasionally tiresome, stage on the road to solving the inequality.

(I know that 'PC-dom' - hard to define it, isn't it?! - isn't actually the _1st_ attempt in world history to fix social and political inequalities, I'm only using '1st generation' as a handy metaphor!)

for me, i will put my position simple, in one of my own quotes:

"how can we be potlitically correct in a politically incorrect world?"

for me, i will put my position simple, in one of my own quotes:

"how can we be potlitically correct in a politically incorrect world?"

I think you need to explain your position a bit more; I don't know what you could mean by that.

PC is a sinister form of thought control :mad:

PC is a sinister form of thought control :mad:
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Elgesh']What about the suggestion that the inequalities are so large and ingrained, that the '1st generation' of fixes for them (the _current_ PC model) is therefore bound to be crude at best? Later fixes (later 'PC' models) will become more sophisticated and nuanced, but an initially crude 'solution' is a necessary, if occasionally tiresome, stage on the road to solving the inequality.

(I know that 'PC-dom' - hard to define it, isn't it?! - isn't actually the _1st_ attempt in world history to fix social and political inequalities, I'm only using '1st generation' as a handy metaphor!)
You mean positive discrimination...the problem is that this may instead become a permanent feature of society, thereby defeating the purpose of such PC.

You mean positive discrimination...the problem is that this may instead become a permanent feature of society, thereby defeating the purpose of such PC.

I was thinking of the 'long lists of words and concepts it is frowned on to repeat', really - there's not so much positive discrimination going on in the UK at present, so I've not got much experience of what you're thinking of. From what I do know (quota systems in education, govt. contractors etc), it doesn't sound like it's in danger of doing much long term harm - as I say, historically, solutions to inequality (of which PC-dom is an example) generally become more refined and nuanced. Well, until they're no longer of any use and a new paradigm is created to fight the _new_ patterns of inequality that emerge. Happily, it's a self-regulating system :)

Positive discrimination means, for instance, helping a woman fund her law studies if she is poor and is trying to enter a domain dominated by upper middle class males, yet not offering that same help to a male of a similar financial background. Quotas etc are all a form of positive discrimination. It may well work. As long as in the long-term its goal remains total equality, fine. It must simply avoid entrenching new forms of discrimination into the system.