NationStates Jolt Archive


Cannabalism upon Death?

Avertide
30-11-2005, 03:28
Basically the harvesting of deceased U.S. citizens/residents/illegal aliens for both viable organs for use as replacements and using the remainder as a food source for cheap public school lunches, a pork alternative, and as additives in pet feeds. As part of a federally funded and directed initiative. It would also relieve the tensions upon land use for funeral plots and cemetaries, eliminate the burden usually incurred by the embalming and cremation/burial/etc. of deceased relatives/parents, it wouldn't take undertakers out of a job because the gov't would be giving them the support to gain the infrastructure necessary for the conversion and they would still retain their powerful lobbying status due to the integral nature of their work with the advantage of having a steady income as opposed to having to sell sell sell to the bereaved,

As an added advantage, it seems a distinct possibility that a market for such food can in fact be opened as a delicacy in the East, mainly due to the publicy I personally have seen of a belief in Japan that helped to bring about the acceptance of McDonalds/Hamburgers in general was that eating the beef, the same food that the Americans/Caucasians/Europeans ate, would cause themselves, the Japanese people, to become taller, and, eventually, perhaps, blonde.

Would an option to pay or give up a certain amount of the estate left after death in order to be exempted work for or against this in terms of opposition to the measure?

What would the arguments against such a thing being instituted be? (Note: As far as Religious/Moral and other such 'obvious' reasons, specifics would be appreciated)
Good Lifes
30-11-2005, 03:34
Cannabal cultures never survived because they get the human form of "mad cow". Mad cow came about because cattle salvage was fed back to cattle. The same happens with humans.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
30-11-2005, 03:35
What would the arguments against such a thing being instituted be? (Note: As far as Religious/Moral and other such 'obvious' reasons, specifics would be appreciated)
There is the whole "Cannibalism can result in dangerous diseases emerging"-thing.
Also, a movie theater filled with people throwing toast at the screen and shouting "Meat Loaf again!?" is perhaps one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard.
Avertide
30-11-2005, 03:38
There is the whole "Cannibalism can result in dangerous diseases emerging"-thing.
Also, a movie theater filled with people throwing toast at the screen and shouting "Meat Loaf again!?" is perhaps one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard.

Did I say something invoking the Rocky Horror Picture Show? Or were you just reminded of it by the general subject matter?
Rotovia-
30-11-2005, 03:38
Anyone else want to feild this one? Or should I just say "This is seriously fucked up! On par with that guy who coouldn't understand what was so wrong with terrorist"...?
Kecibukia
30-11-2005, 03:39
Cannabal cultures never survived because they get the human form of "mad cow". Mad cow came about because cattle salvage was fed back to cattle. The same happens with humans.

Actually, if what I have read is correct, that only occurs if you eat the lower brain pan portions which contain bacteria, too much of which causes "human mad cow". Eating the meat is just fine.
The Sutured Psyche
30-11-2005, 03:42
Wait...I think I might have just figured out how to solve overpopulation and starvation...
Billus
30-11-2005, 03:44
If a cannabal ate me, he/she'd get Wild Bill, the Billus form of mad cow
Kecibukia
30-11-2005, 03:45
Wait...I think I might have just figured out how to solve overpopulation and starvation...

Go watch "Soylent Green"

In a crunch, Anthropophagy is a viable source of protein.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
30-11-2005, 03:45
Did I say something invoking the Rocky Horror Picture Show? Or were you just reminded of it by the general subject matter?
General subject matter, mainly. I'm easily distracted and have an encyclopedic memory for all things stupid. Someday I will put this ability to great use by appearing on some lame-ass game show about things that were popular decades ago.
Avertide
30-11-2005, 03:54
Anyone else want to feild this one? Or should I just say "This is seriously fucked up! On par with that guy who coouldn't understand what was so wrong with terrorist"...?

No, actually I understand why to object to it morally. I just have a hatred of embalming and a love of being unorthodox in my thinking. I personally wouldn't eat human unless I really had to in order to survive, but given the fact that we read Swift's "A Modest Proposal," as an introduction into our unit on persuasive speeches and writing and delivering them, I got to pondering. And I've always wanted to make a way to eliminate the Organ Donor debate.
CthulhuFhtagn
30-11-2005, 03:54
Cannabal cultures never survived because they get the human form of "mad cow". Mad cow came about because cattle salvage was fed back to cattle. The same happens with humans.
Kuru/Creutzfeld-Jakob can only be contracted via the consuming of the brain. Hypothetically one conuld contract it by consuming major nerves, but the prions are only located there in rare circumstances.
Avertide
30-11-2005, 03:55
General subject matter, mainly. I'm easily distracted and have an encyclopedic memory for all things stupid. Someday I will put this ability to great use by appearing on some lame-ass game show about things that were popular decades ago.

Or if you decide to write about the popular culture of your past later on in life. While not useful in its own right, usually, I've found that those who possess such minds are usually much more interesting than 'normal people.'
Avertide
30-11-2005, 03:56
Wait...I think I might have just figured out how to solve overpopulation and starvation...

I loved Swift after reading that.
Kecibukia
30-11-2005, 03:58
Kuru/Creutzfeld-Jakob can only be contracted via the consuming of the brain. Hypothetically one conuld contract it by consuming major nerves, but the prions are only located there in rare circumstances.

I feel much better not being the only one who knew that.
:)
Avertide
30-11-2005, 03:58
Kuru/Creutzfeld-Jakob can only be contracted via the consuming of the brain. Hypothetically one conuld contract it by consuming major nerves, but the prions are only located there in rare circumstances.

Would you have any reccommendations on where to look, or what to run a search on, in order to read more about that? Also, thank you.
German Nightmare
30-11-2005, 04:01
That is one of the most disgusting proposels I've seen on this forum so far! http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/puke.gif

Besides from moral objections - do you have the slightest idea how much poison your average human assimilates during their livetime? In addition to those health concerns comes the risk of obtaining numerous diseases due to flesh consumption (as already mentioned above). Yuck! Dude, that is just sick...
Kecibukia
30-11-2005, 04:02
Would you have any reccommendations on where to look, or what to run a search on, in order to read more about that? Also, thank you.

Wikipedia actually has some good references on it.

My favorite book on the subject is called "Contingency Cannibalism". Lots of factual data but humorous. The mother-in-law jokes are classic.
Kecibukia
30-11-2005, 04:03
That is one of the most disgusting proposels I've seen on this forum so far! http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/puke.gif

Besides from moral objections - do you have the slightest idea how much poison your average human assimilates during their livetime? In addition to those health concerns comes the risk of obtaining numerous diseases due to flesh consumption (as already mentioned above). Yuck! Dude, that is just sick...

Actually healthier than eating many types of fish. As stated earlier, you only get a disease from eating the brain.
German Nightmare
30-11-2005, 04:08
Actually healthier than eating many types of fish. As stated earlier, you only get a disease from eating the brain.
I seriously doubt that a fish with a shorter lifespan than your average human assimilates more heavy metals and other poisons than you do in a single year.

As for eating the brains - that just reminds me of way too many zombie movies... Consuming human flesh and such simply is a bad idea to begin with - there's more than one good reason we're not already doing it, don't you think?

Besides, what of all those other diseases that are in the blood and therefore pretty much everywhere else? HIV and Hepatitis are only two that I'd like to mention here...
CthulhuFhtagn
30-11-2005, 04:10
Would you have any reccommendations on where to look, or what to run a search on, in order to read more about that? Also, thank you.
I read a book called Deadly Feasts, but I seem to have misplaced it, so I can't give you the author.
Kecibukia
30-11-2005, 04:10
I seriously doubt that a fish with a shorter lifespan than your average human assimilates more heavy metals and other poisons than you do in a single year.

Mercury

As for eating the brains - that just reminds me of way too many zombie movies... Consuming human flesh and such simply is a bad idea to begin with - there's more than one good reason we're not already doing it, don't you think?

Health-wise, there is no reason not to. It's exclusively a social/cultural thing.
Avertide
30-11-2005, 04:42
I seriously doubt that a fish with a shorter lifespan than your average human assimilates more heavy metals and other poisons than you do in a single year.

As for eating the brains - that just reminds me of way too many zombie movies... Consuming human flesh and such simply is a bad idea to begin with - there's more than one good reason we're not already doing it, don't you think?

Besides, what of all those other diseases that are in the blood and therefore pretty much everywhere else? HIV and Hepatitis are only two that I'd like to mention here...

HIV cannot survive outside of the human body for very long, and upon being cooked it would be denatured because viruses are made of protein too. So the only real risks are both matters of regulations on safety and hygiene/handling as far as I can see, being as it would only really have a chance of getting at those who are processing it.