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Who likes 'em? Who doesn't know them? Who said WTF when they saw this thread?

I think they're the very definition of punk. :D

I said: "WTF?"

Do they have good personal hygine? That's a must for any of my favorite bands.

Yeah, they are a classic. But I can't say that I listen to them much anymore.

Never got the chance to see them life.

I said: "WTF?"

Do they have good personal hygine? That's a must for any of my favorite bands.
I'm willing to bet that they won't make your standards, but meh... :p

Yeah, they are a classic. But I can't say that I listen to them much anymore.

Never got the chance to see them life.

I've been slowly building up my collection. I want all of their albums and EPs before they're impossible to find, damn it. :D

And yeah, me neither. A bit before my generation. :p

Awesome band. I don't know that I would agree that they're the very definition of punk, but I can't disagree with that statement, either. Saying "art is just the last three letters of fart", as Gibby Haynes did, is a very punk thing to say.

I don't mind them, but they're no Moss Icon or Sonic Youth.

10/10 for originality for a band name. :D

Awesome band. I don't know that I would agree that they're the very definition of punk, but I can't disagree with that statement, either. Saying "art is just the last three letters of fart", as Gibby Haynes did, is a very punk thing to say.

:D

Of course, the definition of what punk is happens to be a completely subjective thing. But for me, if I were asked by someone what punk is...after showing them a Dead Kennedys record, i'd immediately put on a Butthole Surfers one. They're opposite sides of the same golden coin. :D

I don't mind them, but they're no Moss Icon or Sonic Youth.

I love Sonic Youth, and their early stuff is pretty similar, so I can see why you draw a comparison. But I love SY for different reasons...SY are a far more "serious" band. They both suit a different mood. I've heard Moss Icon, but don't know them well enough to comment. Any suggestions of particular songs I should check out?

10/10 for originality for a band name. :D

Hahaha...believe me, the fun doesn't even start there. :D

they're OK

I love Sonic Youth, and their early stuff is pretty similar, so I can see why you draw a comparison. But I love SY for different reasons...SY are a far more "serious" band. They both suit a different mood. I've heard Moss Icon, but don't know them well enough to comment. Any suggestions of particular songs I should check out?

I just picked two other 'post-punk' (although both fit into a multitude of other genres as well) bands that I liked, there really wasn't supposed to be a comparison.

Moss Icon tend to be pretty hard to find songs by, I'm finding, but I'd suggest Mirror, Gravity and I'm Back Sleeping or Fucking or Something Else

Who likes 'em? Who doesn't know them? Who said WTF when they saw this thread?

I think they're the very definition of punk. :D


I'd have to say they're closer to drunk rock than punk rock......

Hahaha...believe me, the fun doesn't even start there. :D

I don't want to know how they got that name. :)

I'd have to say they're closer to drunk rock than punk rock......

The irony here, of course, is that despite being labelled as the epitomes of drunk rock and punk rock, the Butthole Surfers were pretty damn serious tech-heads: it wasn't as if they were able to make all those noises just by accident.

I don't want to know how they got that name. :)
Hey Bubba, pass me some of that dumbass over there...

The irony here, of course, is that despite being labelled as the epitomes of drunk rock and punk rock, the Butthole Surfers were pretty damn serious tech-heads: it wasn't as if they were able to make all those noises just by accident.


True, when I saw them Gibby was pretty busy tweaking dials and knobs I'd never understand, not just singing. PiL was a major influence on them.

They were pretty good, pretty fun to listen to. I liked them I guess.

7 out of 10? oh heck 9 out of 10...............

Gibby Haynes was once asked in an interview what he would have called The Butthole Surfers if he had known how little airplay he would have received with that name.

His reply: I would have called the band: "I'm gonna shit in your mother's pussy"

:eek:

I said WTF,repeatedly.
Then I spontaneosly combusted.
w00t.

I also said WTF? But I didn't spontaneously combust. I must be inflammable! Wait, doesn't that mean the same as flammable... erm...
*combusts*

Who likes 'em? Who doesn't know them? Who said WTF when they saw this thread?

I think they're the very definition of punk. :D
I like that song "Pepper", and that song they do featuring Flea from Red hot chili peppers, "Who was in my room last night". Other than that I haven't heard much from them that I liked.

Now THERE'S a name I haven't heard in ages! I was into them for quite a while, around the same time I got into the Red Hot Chili Peppers (long before Bloodsugarsexmagic thank you very much). But it's been years since I listened to them...hmmm...it was the Butthole Surfers and Bootsauce in my tape player for a long time.

Gibby Haynes was once asked in an interview what he would have called The Butthole Surfers if he had known how little airplay he would have received with that name.

His reply: I would have called the band: "I'm gonna shit in your mother's pussy"

:eek:

LMAO :D

I'd have to say they're closer to drunk rock than punk rock......

Same shit, different smell, right? :p

I just picked two other 'post-punk' (although both fit into a multitude of other genres as well) bands that I liked, there really wasn't supposed to be a comparison.

Moss Icon tend to be pretty hard to find songs by, I'm finding, but I'd suggest Mirror, Gravity and I'm Back Sleeping or Fucking or Something Else

Oh. Early (Confusion is Sex/Kill Yr Idols) era SY is actually quite close musically in many ways to the early work of the Butthole Surfers, so I just assumed you were :)

Moss Icon seem okay, but I wasn't blown away by them.


The irony here, of course, is that despite being labelled as the epitomes of drunk rock and punk rock, the Butthole Surfers were pretty damn serious tech-heads: it wasn't as if they were able to make all those noises just by accident.

Hell yeah. I've spent a bit of time playing around trying to figure out some of them...

Though I miss the part where being punk means you can't know your stuff. :p

I like that song "Pepper", and that song they do featuring Flea from Red hot chili peppers, "Who was in my room last night". Other than that I haven't heard much from them that I liked.

They're both good songs. Pepper and the rest of the Electriclarryland album were my introduction to them...then I discovered their weirder stuff :p

Now THERE'S a name I haven't heard in ages! I was into them for quite a while, around the same time I got into the Red Hot Chili Peppers (long before Bloodsugarsexmagic thank you very much). But it's been years since I listened to them...hmmm...it was the Butthole Surfers and Bootsauce in my tape player for a long time.

Cool! I wouldn't have picked you as a fan...awesome :)

Cool! I wouldn't have picked you as a fan...awesome :)Oh...I've listened to a lot of things you probably wouldn't expect!

They're both good songs. Pepper and the rest of the Electriclarryland album were my introduction to them...then I discovered their weirder stuff :p



Cool! I wouldn't have picked you as a fan...awesome :)
Didn't their singer also work with Ministry on the song "Jesus Built my Hot-Rod"? That's a great tune.

Didn't their singer also work with Ministry on the song "Jesus Built my Hot-Rod"? That's a great tune.

They certainly did. The album "Independent Worm Saloon" was also produced by John Paul Jones from Led Zep.

Oh...I've listened to a lot of things you probably wouldn't expect!

Care to name some? :p

Who likes 'em? Who doesn't know them? Who said WTF when they saw this thread?

I think they're the very definition of punk. :D


Yeah, they're pretty good.

I don't want to know how they got that name. :)
Apparently they were changing their name with each gig, and this was the first one where they made money. So they kept it.
The name's something to do with floating down a river on an inner tube, isn't it?

I've seen them live. Just after the 'Worm' album came out. Brilliant show. They had some VD film from the '50's playing behind them. Huge footage of diseased genitalia while hearing 'Sweatloaf' live is definitely an experience I won't forget in a hurry.

One of the best concerts I've ever been to (Ween and TOOL concerts also rate).

Who likes 'em? Who doesn't know them? Who said WTF when they saw this thread?

I think they're the very definition of punk. :D
Nothing gets my attention quite like seeing the name of my all-time favourite band gracing the top-slated post on NS General. Several of my friends in radio have agreed with my contention that if radio today were anything at all like it had been run in the past, the Surfers'd've been America's number one band for the last fifteen years already.

All I know's that "Lady Sniff" is fucked up.

And they rock.

I disagree, they are not punk but Texas psychobilly. :rolleyes:
Schooled by a 16 year old. Oi oi oi. Not punk.

I disagree, they are not punk but Texas psychobilly. :rolleyes:
Schooled by a 16 year old. Oi oi oi. Not punk.

Psychobilly's a subgenre of Punk Rock, Einstein.

Psychobilly's a subgenre of Punk Rock, Einstein.
I wub you when you're a bitch pot. :D

They were pretty good, pretty fun to listen to. I liked them I guess.

7 out of 10? oh heck 9 out of 10...............

Should I be shocked?

You never cease to amaze... :)

I wub you when you're a bitch pot. :D

Damn right. :D

I love the girls, and the money, and the shame of life.

Though I miss the part where being punk means you can't know your stuff. :p

You're reading the rule back-to-front: you don't have to know what the hell you are doing to be a punk, but knowing what the hell you are doing doesn't mean you're not a punk.

Well, Einstein, the genral population thinks punk is well...shit. There is a large diffrence between the two.

The term "psychobilly" was first used by Wayne Kemp when he penned the Johnny Cash song "One Piece at a Time," a Top 10 hit in 1976, where he makes reference to a "psychobilly Cadillac." It came into use as a genre a few years later, when the Cramps described their music as "psychobilly" and "voodoo rockabilly" on flyers advertising their upcoming shows. Although the Cramps rejected the idea of being a part of the psychobilly scene, they, along with artists such as Screamin' Jay Hawkins and Stray Cats are considered important precursors to psychobilly. Musically speaking, there are also antecedents in the garage rock scene of the 1960s and the pub rock scene of the 1970s.

The very first verifiable psychobilly band is considered to be the Meteors, who formed in south London in 1980. With one member being part of the rockabilly subculture, another being part of the punk subculture, and the last being a horror movie fan, their musical ideas overlapped to begin psychobilly as it exists today. The Meteors also invented the concept of psychobilly being apolitical, by encouraging their shows to be a "politics-free" zone in order to avoid disputes among fans, as was becoming common in the punk rock scene of the time. To this day, almost no psychobilly songs are political.

In 1982, a nightclub called Klubfoot opened in Hammersmith, west London, creating a home for the UK psychobilly scene. The club was eventually demolished and replaced with offices and a bus station. Because the psychobilly scene has never become very popular, psychobilly fans often organize "Psychobilly Weekenders" where many bands are featured on one bill to attract many attendees from all over. The first weekenders were organized in the UK in the mid-80s. In the U.S. they happen with frequency in Texas, New York and California.

Psychobilly eventually spread throughout most of Europe, (particularly Germany, Italy, and Spain), Canada, parts of the United States, and is gradually spreading to Asia, especially Japan. While the psychobilly of the early 1980s (the Meteors, the Sharks, Batmobile) was similar to punk or 1960s garage rock, the psychobilly of the later 1980s and 1990s (the Nekromantix, Demented Are Go, the Klingonz, Mad Sin, Asmodeus, Milwaukee Wildmen) had a different sound closer to metal. The psychobilly of 2000s is closer to the American psychobilly sound (Reverend Horton Heat, The Koffin Kats, Los Gatos Locos, Barnyard Ballers, Tiger Army).

Psychobilly fashion is characterized by a hairstyle called a quiff, which resembles a mohawk or a devilock. Many females like to style their hair in the manner of vintage rockabilly fashions or icons, like Bettie Page. The clothing and hair of the subculture often combines punk fashion, for both females and males, such as dyed or shaved hair, studded and shredded clothing, and leather jackets, with early rockabilly fashion, such as denim workware and animal prints.

When most people think punk they think your basics, Dk, Clash, Black Flag, Germs, ect. But we need to seperate the two.

So, because it's a sub group doesn't mean it's near that group, it just evolved. Like our death metal would be no where with out the progression of many bands steming from old black folk music. And those two are totaly diffrent, Einstein.:headbang:

BHS is an odd group. I tend to group their earlier works in more as metal than actual punk [have you heard "The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave?!"], but they hold the honorable distinction of going middle of the road and not sucking in the process. They are one of the few bands that managed to switch genres without losing their appeal. I like the edginess of their early work, but "Dracula from Houston" is a great song too.

Apparently they were changing their name with each gig, and this was the first one where they made money. So they kept it.
The name's something to do with floating down a river on an inner tube, isn't it?

I've seen them live. Just after the 'Worm' album came out. Brilliant show. They had some VD film from the '50's playing behind them. Huge footage of diseased genitalia while hearing 'Sweatloaf' live is definitely an experience I won't forget in a hurry.

One of the best concerts I've ever been to (Ween and TOOL concerts also rate).

Argh! Way to make me jealous!!! :p

Nothing gets my attention quite like seeing the name of my all-time favourite band gracing the top-slated post on NS General. Several of my friends in radio have agreed with my contention that if radio today were anything at all like it had been run in the past, the Surfers'd've been America's number one band for the last fifteen years already.

If only... *sigh*

I disagree, they are not punk but Texas psychobilly. :rolleyes:
Schooled by a 16 year old. Oi oi oi. Not punk.

No; putting limits on what can be called punk, and saying "To be punk, you must sound exactly like this", is the very antithesis of the term. The Butthole Surfers are punk, because they weren't afraid to do their own thing and find their own niche. Good day to you, sir.

Psychobilly's a subgenre of Punk Rock, Einstein.

:p

You're reading the rule back-to-front: you don't have to know what the hell you are doing to be a punk, but knowing what the hell you are doing doesn't mean you're not a punk.

I'm not reading it back to front, that's exactly what I meant. :)

Argh! Way to make me jealous!!! :p



If only... *sigh*



No; putting limits on what can be called punk, and saying "To be punk, you must sound exactly like this", is the very antithesis of the term. The Butthole Surfers are punk, because they weren't afraid to do their own thing and find their own niche. Good day to you, sir.



:p



I'm not reading it back to front, that's exactly what I meant. :)

Why are you not on msn? *cries*

Why are you not on msn? *cries*

I was wondering the same thing.

*fidgets*

Schlaackism, please Cite your source (http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/Psychobilly) when posting the words of others. Anything less can potentially be construed as copyright violation, or at the very least poor arguing form. I'm no fan of Potaria's, but plagarists drive me crazy.

I'm no fan of Potaria's

:D

BHS is an odd group. I tend to group their earlier works in more as metal than actual punk [have you heard "The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave"], but they hold the honorable distinction of going middle of the road and not sucking in the process. They are one of the few bands that managed to switch genres without losing their appeal. I like the edginess of their early work, but "Dracula from Houston" is a great song too.

What album/EP was "The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave" from?

"Dracula from Houston" is alright. A bit too radio friendly for me, but meh, can't deny it's a good song.

Why are you not on msn? *cries*

Okay, okay. Sheesh. :p

Okay, okay. Sheesh. :p
*smiles smugly and puts away fake tears*
:p

What album/EP was "The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave" from?

"Dracula from Houston" is alright. A bit too radio friendly for me, but meh, can't deny it's a good song.
I think it's on their very first album, but I'm not certain. It's been a while since I've seen or listened to that particular work.

I think it's on their very first album, but I'm not certain. It's been a while since I've seen or listened to that particular work.

It's not on their first or second...unless it has an alternate name.

Probably from an EP, then.

I think it's on their very first album, but I'm not certain. It's been a while since I've seen or listened to that particular work.
It's on their Live PCPPEP EP. I still like the s/t best. Always did. Songs like Ladysniff & Butthole Surfer just makes my day every time I listen to them. Brilliant fucking album that.

I said: "WTF?"

Do they have good personal hygine? That's a must for any of my favorite bands.

I listen to the freaks. If you want something even MORE disturbing than the BSers, try listening to Pere Ubu, where "try" is the operative word.

Great band. And almost defiantly original. But it's more than a little hard to find their stuff anymore, either in the stores or online. You have no idea how long I have been trying to get Locust Abortion Technician or Hairway To Steven.

Great band. And almost defiantly original. But it's more than a little hard to find their stuff anymore, either in the stores or online. You have no idea how long I have been trying to get Locust Abortion Technician or Hairway To Steven.


I have Locust Abortion Technician (which is brilliant), but Hairway to Steven eludes me.

What album/EP was "The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave" from?

Answer:
The Hole Truth And Nothing Butt

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:2xktk6kxqkrg

Answer:
The Hole Truth And Nothing Butt

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:2xktk6kxqkrg

That's a live album. I found it, though.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:5mf1zfshehak

And that would be impossible to find nowadays.

Butthole Surfers: A mildly average band for a mildly average genre...

Oh. Early (Confusion is Sex/Kill Yr Idols) era SY is actually quite close musically in many ways to the early work of the Butthole Surfers, so I just assumed you were :)


I guess I'll have to focus more on early Butthole Surfers, I'm quite into early 80s no-wave type stuff.

I reckon Butthole Surfers are excellent. I've only got two of their albums though, Independent Worm Saloon & Electric Larryland. I definitely prefer IWS.

I have Locust Abortion Technician (which is brilliant), but Hairway to Steven eludes me.

HtS seems a bit duff to me. I lean towards Rembrandt Pussyhorse myself.

Who likes 'em? Who doesn't know them? Who said WTF when they saw this thread?

I think they're the very definition of punk. :D

Tehy are cool. They put on a good live show. Very good.

Who likes 'em? Who doesn't know them? Who said WTF when they saw this thread?

I think they're the very definition of punk. :D
I said 'WTF'.

They aer liek OMG sooooooo 1997.

I have none of their albums and probably wont get any so as it dosent look like i am jumping on any bandwagon after it has bolted from the Dude Ranch.


Butthole Surfers: A mildly average band for a mildly average genre...
This one is on Fire.

I said 'WTF'.

They aer liek OMG sooooooo 1997.

I have none of their albums and probably wont get any so as it dosent look like i am jumping on any bandwagon after it has bolted from the Dude Ranch.


Earlier than that. Independent Worm Saloon is from around 92/93, I bought it when it was just released. I'm pretty sure IWS wasn't their first album either.

Earlier than that. Independent Worm Saloon is from around 92/93, I bought it when it was just released. I'm pretty sure IWS wasn't their first album either.

Psychic, Powerless ... Another Man's Sac was their first full-lengther IIRC.

I reckon Butthole Surfers are excellent. I've only got two of their albums though, Independent Worm Saloon & Electric Larryland. I definitely prefer IWS.

IWS is brilliance. Play "Clean it up" to a hungover friend the night after a big drinking session and watch the reaction. :D

HtS seems a bit duff to me. I lean towards Rembrandt Pussyhorse myself.
That one rules too. :)

Psychic, Powerless ... Another Man's Sac was their first full-lengther IIRC.

Correct, from 1984.

"The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave" is on both the Butthole Surfers (a.k.a. Brown Reason To Live) EP and the Live PCPPEP EP. Both EPs have been rereleased onto the same CD.

And that would be impossible to find nowadays.www.latinobuggerveil.com

I haven't seen any mention of "Jack Officers" or "P" yet.... :)

"The Shah Sleeps in Lee Harvey's Grave" is on both the Butthole Surfers (a.k.a. Brown Reason To Live) EP and the Live PCPPEP EP. Both EPs have been rereleased onto the same CD.

www.latinobuggerveil.com

Awesome...It'll only cost me $21 US.

(though that was dumb of me. I should have checked there first.)

Earlier than that. Independent Worm Saloon is from around 92/93, I bought it when it was just released. I'm pretty sure IWS wasn't their first album either.
No i meant they were 'Big' in liek 97.
Maybe it was 94 or 95 maybe 96.........

IWS is brilliance. Play "Clean it up" to a hungover friend the night after a big drinking session and watch the reaction. :D
*snip*

I said clean it up. Clean it up bitch.


Listening to it right now.

Earlier than that. Independent Worm Saloon is from around 92/93, I bought it when it was just released. I'm pretty sure IWS wasn't their first album either.
Their first album was like 1982 or something.
Just checked - 1983.
14 Lps and EPs.
Their live double album is brilliant btw. Hard to get hold of, but worth the effort.