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Hmm. I thought that this sort of thing didn't go on in any country in Europe (at least not in the EU).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/11/27/dl2701.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2005/11/27/ixopinion.html
t is difficult to believe that in Europe today, young girls are tricked, kidnapped, raped and beaten, then kept hidden shivering and frightened in pitch-black cellars, to be allowed out only to be forced to have sex with violent, drunken and abusive men. And yet, as David Harrison graphically reports in today's Sunday Telegraph in the third of his series of articles on the trafficking of women, that is what is happening.

The flourishing of that brutal and perverted trade - and there can be little doubt that it is flourishing - is a blot on European civilisation. London and other British cities are the foremost destinations for the criminals and the enslaved and desperate women whom they so viciously exploit.

This occurs in the US as well. Particularly with immigrants from the south.

This occurs in the US as well. Particularly with immigrants from the south.
I know about that. I'm just surprised that it goes on in the EU.

Hmm. I thought that this sort of thing didn't go on in any country in Europe (at least not in the EU).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/11/27/dl2701.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2005/11/27/ixopinion.html
t is difficult to believe that in Europe today, young girls are tricked, kidnapped, raped and beaten, then kept hidden shivering and frightened in pitch-black cellars, to be allowed out only to be forced to have sex with violent, drunken and abusive men. And yet, as David Harrison graphically reports in today's Sunday Telegraph in the third of his series of articles on the trafficking of women, that is what is happening.

The flourishing of that brutal and perverted trade - and there can be little doubt that it is flourishing - is a blot on European civilisation. London and other British cities are the foremost destinations for the criminals and the enslaved and desperate women whom they so viciously exploit.


Is this meant to be something new. It is something that has been known about for a long time. In fact there have been a great quantity of column inches and TV and radio air time devoted to it.

Is this meant to be something new. It is something that has been known about for a long time. In fact there have been a great quantity of column inches and TV and radio air time devoted to it.
Maybe the Sunday Telegraph is trying to raise the issue again.

Maybe the Sunday Telegraph is trying to raise the issue again.

The issue is always there, a bit like African poverty, everyone knows about it but other then going "sigh, it's a damn shame." No one does anything about it.

This occurs in the US as well. Particularly with immigrants from the south.
God damn it, does every thread about something negative in another county have to include the US? I mean, the first reply, fuck!

Maybe the Sunday Telegraph is trying to raise the issue again.

yeah, and the issue should be delt with.

yeah, and the issue should be delt with.
That's what I thought was curious.

A place like Britain has far more laws, the police and courts have far more power, and there's surveillance everywhere. If we want to compare it to the US (or a few other countries with the same problem), there are already plenty of tools to use against it.

Which is why I find it surprising.

God damn it, does every thread about something negative in another county have to include the US? I mean, the first reply, fuck!

Is there a reason why such replies shouldn't exist?

Someone complains about an evil present in their nation, someone else replies that the same evil exists in THEIR nation, also?

What is your point? US citizens should not be allowed to address the failings in their own nation?

I know about that. I'm just surprised that it goes on in the EU.
That's kind of sad. Maybe that's an example of a contributing factor in the long run?

The issue is always there, a bit like African poverty, everyone knows about it but other then going "sigh, it's a damn shame." No one does anything about it.

True. For those who want insight, I recommend this film a lot: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300140/

This matter is constantly debated here - it's a subject very close to the heart of the feminist and leftist lobby.

Is there a reason why such replies shouldn't exist?

Someone complains about an evil present in their nation, someone else replies that the same evil exists in THEIR nation, also?

What is your point? US citizens should not be allowed to address the failings in their own nation?
I fail to see how it can be the first and only thing somebody thinks of.

That's what I thought was curious.

A place like Britain has far more laws, the police and courts have far more power, and there's surveillance everywhere. If we want to compare it to the US (or a few other countries with the same problem), there are already plenty of tools to use against it.

Which is why I find it surprising.

Not quite surveillance everywhere (though I do think that we have the most CCTV cameras per head in the world. Umm, yay?), they tend to be located in very busy areas, town centres and the like. I think most gang masters are wise enough not to ply that trade in open view.

Not quite surveillance everywhere (though I do think that we have the most CCTV cameras per head in the world. Umm, yay?), they tend to be located in very busy areas, town centres and the like. I think most gang masters are wise enough not to ply that trade in open view.

still you would think that law enforcement would have some sort of leads to busting up these sex rings...

I fail to see how it can be the first and only thing somebody thinks of.

Nobody said it WAS the 'first' OR 'only' thing that 'somebody' thought of.

But, it is surely acceptable for it to be the first COMMENT, if it is something that someone considers worthy, no?

I'd have to say, you are skating dangerously close to opposition to free-speech...

I know about that. I'm just surprised that it goes on in the EU.
As many of the young women kidnapped or coerced into being sex slaves are from Eastern Europe, you shouldn't be surprised. It's a lot easier to sneak them over a land border than it is to bring them to North America by ship.

True. For those who want insight, I recommend this film a lot: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300140/

This matter is constantly debated here - it's a subject very close to the heart of the feminist and leftist lobby.

Oh thanks. Very cheap on Amazon.co.uk too. Looks interesting

*ponders*

still you would think that law enforcement would have some sort of leads to busting up these sex rings...

I'm sure they do. Though one of the major problems is the shear quantity. I used to have quite a few sources on this, I'll see if I can find them again...

This ain't exactly new, as we've already established. It's a terrible thing, but it, like all crime, probably exists in every nation on earth.

Nobody said it WAS the 'first' OR 'only' thing that 'somebody' thought of.

But, it is surely acceptable for it to be the first COMMENT, if it is something that someone considers worthy, no?

I'd have to say, you are skating dangerously close to opposition to free-speech...
What the fuck are you on about?
I am not opposed to free speech in the slightest, but part of free speech is me being able to disagree with what another person says, how they say it and when and where they say it. Just because something ticks me off doesn’t mean I want to ban it. I’m not a Republican for pete's sake.

What the fuck are you on about?
I am not opposed to free speech in the slightest, but part of free speech is me being able to disagree with what another person says, how they say it and when and where they say it. Just because something ticks me off doesn’t mean I want to ban it. I’m not a Republican for pete's sake.

dont get all bent out of shape

practice the art of restraint...

Free The Slaves - Slavery Today: http://www.freetheslaves.net/slavery/
What is Modern Slavery?: http://www.antislavery.org/homepage/antislavery/modern.htm

What the fuck are you on about?
I am not opposed to free speech in the slightest, but part of free speech is me being able to disagree with what another person says, how they say it and when and where they say it. Just because something ticks me off doesn’t mean I want to ban it. I’m not a Republican for pete's sake.

Was not your first comment in this thread, about how inappropriate someone else's first comment in the thread was?

It comes accross as though you think nobody (even Americans, apparently) should be able to discuss the negative aspects of the nation.

After all... was your first comment about the sex-slave trade in the EU? Or, even, about the same sex-slave trade in another nation?

No - your first comment was (off-topic) about how other people shouldn't mention the US in such context...

Britain is a nation of over 60 million people. Getting completely rid of something like this is just as futile as getting completely rid of any other kind of crime. Police will periodically crack down on this kind of activity, from time to time, so they can look good in the eyes of the public.

Which is probably a good thing.

God damn it, does every thread about something negative in another county have to include the US? I mean, the first reply, fuck!
I don't think that was intended as an attack on the US. Just a comment that it's happening the world over.

As many of the young women kidnapped or coerced into being sex slaves are from Eastern Europe, you shouldn't be surprised. It's a lot easier to sneak them over a land border than it is to bring them to North America by ship.
Japan doesn't seem to have a problem with that, the amount of 'entertainers' in Japan from Eastern European countries and poorer Asian countries is staggering.

Of course the Japanese goverment's solution is to crack down on visa violations for these women who over stay (read forced to) their visa, but nothing that really targets the human trafficing itself. *sighs*

Let me seem to be the devil's advocate: it's better that these poor girls get to be sex-slaves over in the EU, than that they be sex-slaves in Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Moldova etc.
Am I marginally right?

Let me seem to be the devil's advocate: it's better that these poor girls get to be sex-slaves over in the EU, than that they be sex-slaves in Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Moldova etc.
Am I marginally right?
Um... I'm not sure there's a devil's advocate position here actually. Better they not be sex slaves at all. Also, just because they are in the EU does not mean that they are enjoying the benifits that most do from being in the EU, far from it actually.

Let me seem to be the devil's advocate: it's better that these poor girls get to be sex-slaves over in the EU, than that they be sex-slaves in Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Moldova etc.
Am I marginally right?

I'm not REALLY sure it matters what country you are in, when you are locked in a basement, and subjected to intolerable cruelty, while your person is violated and traded away....

Also, just because they are in the EU does not mean that they are enjoying the benifits that most do from being in the EU, far from it actually.
Still, that invariably translates itself into better food and clothes (unless the captors are shipping in poor-quality stuff from overseas, just to make them feel worse), less violence (more police; i.e.: cannot be beaten around the clock*), clients that bathe.
But sure, better that they do not ever get to be that at all.
My point was not for slavery, as much as it was against conditions in Eastern Europe.

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*In Romania (where I live), most people would look the other way if a man is beating a woman in the street. Those who do not would have little to do in order to stop it.

Still, that invariably translates itself into better food and clothes (unless the captors are shipping in poor-quality stuff from overseas, just to make them feel worse),
Clothing, possibly, but then again the clothing needed for this business isn't exactly the type one would want to wear, quality or no. Food quality might be better, however, we're talking about substance food, not the luxeries. Instant ramen I guess.

less violence (more police; i.e.: cannot be beaten around the clock*),
That, unfortunately, is not the case. They are beaten quite often. They are not let out for one thing, so...

clients that bathe.
Matter of opinion. Guys who need to use sex slaves may not be smelling too sweet. :p (joking here, just in case you're wondering)

But sure, better that they do not ever get to be that at all.
My point was not for slavery, as much as it was against conditions in Eastern Europe.
You have a point, it's better conditions that usually lure the girls to the country in the first place. Promises of a good job and a better life, but then that promise turns into a very ugly situation.

You have a point, it's better conditions that usually lure the girls to the country in the first place. Promises of a good job and a better life, but then that promise turns into a very ugly situation.
I agree.
I would also like to point out that the terms of the comparison I made in my first post were: better sex slave there than sex slave here.

I would also like to point out that the terms of the comparison I made in my first post were: better sex slave there than sex slave here.
Acknowledged. Though I would rather they not be sex slaves anywhere. ;)

i dont understand what kind of man has a preference for sex with these poor abused women and why there are so many such men that it can fund a whole industry dedicated to kidnapping women from other countries.

i dont understand what kind of man has a preference for sex with these poor abused women and why there are so many such men that it can fund a whole industry dedicated to kidnapping women from other countries.

They are cheap.
You can do what you want with them.
Possibly a whole host of other reasons too.

i dont understand what kind of man has a preference for sex with these poor abused women and why there are so many such men that it can fund a whole industry dedicated to kidnapping women from other countries.

humanity isnt as nice as some play it out to be. there are plenty of twisted people out there...

Hmm. I thought that this sort of thing didn't go on in any country in Europe (at least not in the EU).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/11/27/dl2701.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2005/11/27/ixopinion.html
t is difficult to believe that in Europe today, young girls are tricked, kidnapped, raped and beaten, then kept hidden shivering and frightened in pitch-black cellars, to be allowed out only to be forced to have sex with violent, drunken and abusive men. And yet, as David Harrison graphically reports in today's Sunday Telegraph in the third of his series of articles on the trafficking of women, that is what is happening.

The flourishing of that brutal and perverted trade - and there can be little doubt that it is flourishing - is a blot on European civilisation. London and other British cities are the foremost destinations for the criminals and the enslaved and desperate women whom they so viciously exploit.
Are you kidding???
Eastern European Woman are always being brought into England.
Often underage, they are told they will be selling Ice Cream they have their passports confiscated by their 'owners' and are forced to do 'tasks'.

If i had my way people would be dieing right now.

I know about that. I'm just surprised that it goes on in the EU.
No you're not. You just want a chance to point out a 'flaw'.

It happens in Canada too...though many Canadians would be offended at the very suggestion.

But no one is going to give a shit about poor, immigrant women, no matter whether they are shipped to Canada, the US, Britain or France. And that's just sad.

But no one is going to give a shit about poor, immigrant women, no matter whether they are shipped to Canada, the US, Britain or France. And that's just sad.

Bit of a broad brush to tar with, no?

Surely, the more appropriate comment would have been SOMETHING along the lines of "Among those with the POWER to oppose it... no one is going to give a shit about poor, immigrant women... because it makes them no profit, and entails no noticable political gain".

There are a LOT of people who DO 'give a shit'... but have no resources or power to do anything about it.

That's what I thought was curious.

A place like Britain has far more laws, the police and courts have far more power, and there's surveillance everywhere. If we want to compare it to the US (or a few other countries with the same problem), there are already plenty of tools to use against it.

Which is why I find it surprising.
The problem is that most of these girls are illegal immigrants so its often difficult to stop them being brought into the country in the first place, let alone track them down once they get here.
(Even the East Europeans brought here under false pretences become illegal immigrants once their visas expire, after all...)

No you're not. You just want a chance to point out a 'flaw'.

It happens in Canada too...though many Canadians would be offended at the very suggestion.

But no one is going to give a shit about poor, immigrant women, no matter whether they are shipped to Canada, the US, Britain or France. And that's just sad.

Actually I am very surprised. In the US it's much harder to investigate, or look for such things because of the way our laws are written and our criminal justice system works. We have a completely lax immigration system that won't even deport illegal immigrants who are standing by the hundreds on a street corner waiting to be picked up for jobs - and are more than 1000 miles from the Mexican border.

A country like Britain gives the police far broader powers compared to the US. Their immigration controls are supposedly tighter (at least on paper) than the same laws in the US. There are more police per capita in the UK than in the US.

It would appear to me that passing laws and hiring police is not the solution - there must be something that the immigration authorities and police are failing to do in all of these countries, and it must have little to do with the laws and funding.

It would appear to me that passing laws and hiring police is not the solution - there must be something that the immigration authorities and police are failing to do in all of these countries, and it must have little to do with the laws and funding.
Yes: breaking up the criminal enterprises in Russia and Serbia who are importing these unfortunates in the first place. Unfortunately the British police force doesn't have the jurisdiction to do anything about this.

Actually I am very surprised. In the US it's much harder to investigate, or look for such things because of the way our laws are written and our criminal justice system works. We have a completely lax immigration system that won't even deport illegal immigrants who are standing by the hundreds on a street corner waiting to be picked up for jobs - and are more than 1000 miles from the Mexican border.

A country like Britain gives the police far broader powers compared to the US. Their immigration controls are supposedly tighter (at least on paper) than the same laws in the US. There are more police per capita in the UK than in the US.

It would appear to me that passing laws and hiring police is not the solution - there must be something that the immigration authorities and police are failing to do in all of these countries, and it must have little to do with the laws and funding.

I'm not sure about the immigration angle these days really-there are many people from Poland, Lithuania and Latvia living in Britain now, and most are legal (since the EU expansion). When it comes to Eastern European exploitation, it is (I would imagine) extremely difficult to police.

Organise people traffiking in the UK is also huge business. There have been all kinds of horrible incidents in the last year or so:artic rigs full of dead Chinese illegal immigrants when the driver didn't ensure adequate ventilation, the death of 21 people illegally brought into the country and exploited by organised crime http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/4335098.stm

Yes: breaking up the criminal enterprises in Russia and Serbia who are importing these unfortunates in the first place. Unfortunately the British police force doesn't have the jurisdiction to do anything about this.

That's what your immigration enforcement is for. Theoretically. It is hard for me to believe that border control in the UK is as lax as it is in the US.

I take it these people don't arrive at Heathrow, where the scrutiny seemed quite thorough to me.

That's what your immigration enforcement is for. Theoretically. It is hard for me to believe that border control in the UK is as lax as it is in the US.

I take it these people don't arrive at Heathrow, where the scrutiny seemed quite thorough to me.
I'd imagine most of them don't, no.
Container lorries through ferries or the channel tunnel in most cases, probably. Given the amount of coatline the UK has, some of them may even be getting sneaked into the country by boat.

What the fuck are you on about?
I am not opposed to free speech in the slightest, but part of free speech is me being able to disagree with what another person says, how they say it and when and where they say it. Just because something ticks me off doesn’t mean I want to ban it. I’m not a Republican for pete's sake.

What would you suggest then? that the person who left the comment wait a few hours before posting? it isn't his or her fault that he or she left the first response. And you are not disagreeing with the person, you implied that they shouldn't make a comment about the United States. His or her comment was an innocent one with no intent to shed bad light on the US but merely to state that England isn't alone in this ordeal.

I'd imagine most of them don't, no.
Container lorries through ferries or the channel tunnel in most cases, probably. Given the amount of coatline the UK has, some of them may even be getting sneaked into the country by boat.

Is prostitution legal in the UK? I know it's legal in some EU countries (Germany and the Netherlands spring to mind). I would think it would be harder to spot illegal prostitution in a country where it was allowed.

True. For those who want insight, I recommend this film a lot: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300140/

This matter is constantly debated here - it's a subject very close to the heart of the feminist and leftist lobby.
I've seen that film...excellent, and it gave me some insight into Russia, one of Europe's country's I know so little of.

Is prostitution legal in the UK? I know it's legal in some EU countries (Germany and the Netherlands spring to mind). I would think it would be harder to spot illegal prostitution in a country where it was allowed.
No, it's illegal here. This sort of thing would be a lot less widespread it if wasn't, in all likelihood.

No, it's illegal here. This sort of thing would be a lot less widespread it if wasn't, in all likelihood.

Ah. So if it were a legitimate business, there would be no need to import the labor, and no need for organized crime to be involved. Has this been suggested by any political party in the UK?

Ah. So if it were a legitimate business, there would be no need to import the labor, and no need for organized crime to be involved.
Precisely. In this case though, the organised crime rings are based outside of the country, which is an additional problem.
Has this been suggested by any political party in the UK?
No. They're all busy courting the right wing vote at the moment, and doing anything of the sort would alienate most of the mealy mouthed moralists they're chasing after.

Precisely. In this case though, the organised crime rings are based outside of the country, which is an additional problem.

No. They're all busy courting the right wing vote at the moment, and doing anything of the sort would alienate most of the mealy mouthed moralists they're chasing after.

That's one thing I don't understand about the right in the US - for a while, they were selling the idea of "less government". Which to me means fewer laws. More individual freedom. I feel that in most countries, people will drink alcohol, take drugs, and have sex for money. Not everyone, but enough to create a natural market.

Forbidding such activities seems to feed organized crime. And wastes taxpayer dollars trying to do the impossible.

Sort of the opposite of the "nanny-state" idea, where you try to control everything through the government.

There's a certain lack of consistency there.

No, it's illegal here. This sort of thing would be a lot less widespread it if wasn't, in all likelihood.

No, prostitution is not illegal in the UK. Pandering, solicitation and living from immoral earnings are, but not prostitution.

PC Plod could deal with this if he wanted. But as usual, the English bobby is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. The only thing you can rely upon the police to do is hand out speeding tickets - via camera - or lock people up for defending themselves.

That's one thing I don't understand about the right in the US - for a while, they were selling the idea of "less government". Which to me means fewer laws. More individual freedom. I feel that in most countries, people will drink alcohol, take drugs, and have sex for money. Not everyone, but enough to create a natural market.

Forbidding such activities seems to feed organized crime. And wastes taxpayer dollars trying to do the impossible.

Sort of the opposite of the "nanny-state" idea, where you try to control everything through the government.

There's a certain lack of consistency there.

Indeed, the Republicans are example of modern conservatives... they sell themselves on small government, and personal responsibility.

Which makes the current 'era' of Republican agenda all the more unfathomable...

No, prostitution is not illegal in the UK. Pandering, solicitation and living from immoral earnings are, but not prostitution.
How many prostitutes aren't living off immoral earnings or pandering, do you think?

Indeed, the Republicans are example of modern conservatives... they sell themselves on small government, and personal responsibility.

Which makes the current 'era' of Republican agenda all the more unfathomable...

I think that went out the window when Gingrich left. I rather liked the idea that Gingrich was selling, and so did quite a few other people. Even Clinton liked the idea of "ending welfare as we know it" - he adopted the policy as his own.

How many prostitutes aren't living off immoral earnings or pandering, do you think?

It's not living off immoral earnings if you earned them yourself. Likewise, established prostitutes aren't usually involved with pandering.

Basically, it's pimping that's illegal. And like I said PC Plod could deal with if he wasn't so fucking scared of real criminals.

prostitution is illegal, thats why prostitutes hide in back alleys and such and are arreseted for selling themselves.

It's not living off immoral earnings if you earned them yourself. Likewise, established prostitutes aren't usually involved with pandering.

Basically, it's pimping that's illegal. And like I said PC Plod could deal with if he wasn't so fucking scared of real criminals.

and your not aloowed to advertise your sevices.

How many prostitutes aren't living off immoral earnings or pandering, do you think?
Living off immoral earnings = pimping in most laws.

Prostitution is not illegal in Canada. As in the UK, however, many activities surrounding prositution are illegal...which does nothing to stop it, and in many cases, actually makes it more dangerous for prostitutes.

prostitution is illegal, thats why prostitutes hide in back alleys and such and are arreseted for selling themselves.
Where do you live? And are you sure that prositution is actually illegal there? Because in most cases, it actually isn't.

Bit of a broad brush to tar with, no?

Surely, the more appropriate comment would have been SOMETHING along the lines of "Among those with the POWER to oppose it... no one is going to give a shit about poor, immigrant women... because it makes them no profit, and entails no noticable political gain".

There are a LOT of people who DO 'give a shit'... but have no resources or power to do anything about it.
Ah, thank you for pointing out the 'most appropriate comment' to make. I'll let you post for me in the future.

Where do you live? And are you sure that prositution is actually illegal there? Because in most cases, it actually isn't.

It is actually illegal in most places in the US (Nevada being a notable exception). But a lot of girls get around the whole thing by advertising on web sites, and hooking up at hotel rooms through email. Pimps are no longer necessary, and a lot more women are involved in this sort of thing than you know.

Yes, there are still some really desperate women hooking on the street, but they are outnumbered by an invisible cadre of women who are available on the Internet.

And men nowadays :p

Ah, thank you for pointing out the 'most appropriate comment' to make. I'll let you post for me in the future.

A touch of sarcasm, my friend? 'Mr Ambassador... With this irony, you are really spoiling us'....

Fair point, and well made, I'm sure.

I apologise if you think I was putting words into your mouth, but I rarely believe 'sweeping generalisations' of any kind, especially when I know them not to be true.

I'm not going to sit idly by, and let you tar everyone with the same brush, for whatever agenda, when I know damn well that there are a lot of people who DO 'give a shit'.

True. For those who want insight, I recommend this film a lot: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300140/

This matter is constantly debated here - it's a subject very close to the heart of the feminist and leftist lobby.
I believe I've just recently seen that one! Kinda scary and sad...

To stay on topic: Germany is already preparing for the next year when we will be hosting the World Championships and it is believed that brothels will spring up everywhere near the places the games will take place.
It'd be interesting to see what the officials will do about it.

(...) I know it's legal in some EU countries (Germany and the Netherlands spring to mind). I would think it would be harder to spot illegal prostitution in a country where it was allowed.
Yes and no. Since prostitution can sort of be considered a regular job, you pay taxes and have to meet certain standards and such which will be controlled. Then again, if you'd just rent some shed for illegal biz... tougher call.

Ah. So if it were a legitimate business, there would be no need to import the labor, and no need for organized crime to be involved.
Doesn't happen that way I'm afraid. In Nevada, home to legalised prostitution, there's still a problem with illegal street walking in the cities (It being illegal in Las Vegas, Reno, and Carson City). Also, to promote health and safety, the ladies have to pass health checks and be clean of drugs. A lot of the illegals caught tend to be either runaways, or druggies.

The problem is that these women are simply sent back to where they came from, when they are found instead of being given asylum and support. We in Australia give asylum to arseholes that want to destroy our country and our way of life, who lie to get in here, but send children who are exploited by organised crime, sexually abused and molested, back to where they came from to have it happen all over again, on the basis that they are illegal immigrants. We need to establish a support network for these exploited and enslaved women in the countries where this trade is highest. Otherwise, they will return to their countries of origin only to be revictimised.

It isn't just Britain that needs to be ashamed. Our entire species, Homo sapiens sapiens, should be ashamed that this kind of thing still happens.

Here is what I think we should do to deal with this:

Do some undercover work to locate the slave brothels. Then, send in the Marines. Grab the so-called "people" who are enslaving these women. Kill them. Dump the bodies in the garbage. Divide up cash among freed slaves.

Yes, I do consider slave pimps to be sub-human, worthy only of destruction.