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What are your opinions on the white supremacist band Prussian Blue? I shall post a few links, some lyrics, and see what you all think. I know some people who don't know who they are, so...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue_(American_duo) Wikipedia's version of them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/25/wnazi25.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/10/25/ixportal.html A UK paper...

Aryan Man Awake

When the man who plows the fields is driven from his lands. When the carpenter must give away what he's built with his own hands. When a mother's only children belong to her no more. And black masked men with guns come bashing down the doors. Where freedom exists for only those with darker skin. Where lies and propaganda will never let you win. Where symbols of your heritage are held with such contempt, and benefits of country 'cept tax are you exempt .

Aryan man awake, How much more will you take, Turn that fear to hate, Aryan man awake.

Can you see how they lie to warp your daughter's minds? Can you let your sons be trodden down or held behind? Can you apologize for things you did not do, and leave this battle that we fight to the proud and the few? What will it take for you to waken to the truth? What will it take for you to remember your own youth? What will you give up to help this worthy Cause, and strike with force and fury, without a single pause?

What will it take for you to remember your own folk? What will it take for you to break that heavy yoke? Why do you still cast your eyes downward to the ground? Worry lest what you say have prejudicial sound. Who will stand beside us when the war begins? Who will run and hide their heads and wait to see who wins? Who will face the end and watch a Valkyrie ride forth To join the gods and fallen stormtroopers of the North?


Weiss Weiss Weiss

Weiss weiss weiss sind alle meine Kleider. Weiss weiss weiss ist alles was ich hab. Darum leib ich alles was so weiss ist, weil mein Schatz ein Baker Baker ist.

Grun grun grun sind alles meine Kleider. Grun grun grun ist alles was ich hab. Darum leib ich alles was so grun ist, weil mein Schatz ein Jager Jager ist.

Schwartz schwartz schwartz sind alles meine Kleider. Schwartz schwartz schwartz ist alles was ich hab. Darum leib ich alles was so schwartz ist, weil mein Schatz ein Schornsteinfeger ist.

Bunt bunt bunt sind alles meine Kleider. Bunt bunt bunt ist alles was ich hab. Darum leib ich alles was so bunt ist, weil mein Schatz ein Maler Maler ist. Darum leib ich alles was so bunt ist, weil mein Schatz ein Maler Maler ist.




Translation:(Google... I know, it sucks.)
White all are white white my dresses. White white white is everything which I has. Therefore body I everything which is so white, because my treasure is a Baker Baker. Grun grun grun are everything my dresses. Grun grun grun is everything which I has. Therefore body I everything which like that grun is, because my treasure is a Jager Jager. Schwartz schwartz schwartz are everything my dresses. Schwartz schwartz schwartz is everything which I has. Therefore body I everything which like that schwartz is, because my treasure is a chimney sweep. Everything is multicolored multicolored multicolored my dresses. Everything is multicolored multicolored multicolored which I has. Therefore body I everything which is so multicolored, because my treasure is a painter painter. Therefore body I everything which is so multicolored, because my treasure is a painter painter.

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ROTFLMAO!!

I'm highly disturbed, but the twins have a right to sing about whatever they want. Their mom might need to be examined, though, as I have a feeling she's not an extremely fit parent.

mmkay.... kinda creepy... like the kids from Village of the Dammed.

OMG! That was my thought EXACTLY

after reading Article can anyone tell me what the Norse Culture have to do with White Supremency if not why are they in odins name singing about it

I was so disturbed when I read this, and I'm wondering what I can do... But what disturbs me so highly is that they have so many fans. -headshake-

We should have a concert, and invite them, then sing as many equality songs, and remember the Holocaust books... -head shake-

But honestly. Denying the Holocaust ever happened? Wackjobs!

I was so disturbed when I read this, and I'm wondering what I can do... But what disturbs me so highly is that they have so many fans. -headshake-

We should have a concert, and invite them, then sing as many equality songs, and remember the Holocaust books... -head shake-

But honestly. Denying the Holocaust ever happened? Wackjobs!

and show them the newsreel of when Belsen was liberated

and show them the newsreel of when Belsen was liberated
Oh! Oh! Sing with all the footage of Nazi soldiers hurting other people, and concentration camp stuff playing on the background!

Tempest in a teapot. These folks are doomed to the margins of society, and the young girls will most likely grow up to be feminists. :D

I say we ignore them. They'll get the point that THEY"RE hated, and eventually shut up. That or they get elected president (one of em), and I move my ass off to Canada.

Disturbing...

smh @ these clowns.

this song "Weiss Weiss Weiss" is a very common song in germany, nothing political incorrect in any way.

Idiots, that's what they are. First they screw up a wonderful color by naming themselves after it and then they dare mutulate a German nursery rhyme? http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/uarg.gif
Feel better now...

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LMAO!

Those silly little girls simply have no idea what they are talking about.

What's everyone so concerned about, in 5 years they'll just be another pair of internet porn stars.

Hmmm....I wonder what kind of college they'll be able to attend....

Hmm, excise line number 5 and switch aryan man for something else, and the 1st song ain't half bad. A bit simple mind you, but not that bad.

What's everyone so concerned about, in 5 years they'll just be another pair of internet porn stars.

not only that- it'll be them riding some big black hog

Poor trailer-camp trash kids will never live this down.

I was so disturbed when I read this, and I'm wondering what I can do... But what disturbs me so highly is that they have so many fans. -headshake-

We should have a concert, and invite them, then sing as many equality songs, and remember the Holocaust books... -head shake-

But honestly. Denying the Holocaust ever happened? Wackjobs!
Especially since the country that was responsible for it is doing everything to make up for it.

O well. We should have them relocated to Isreal.

Well, there is a bright side to this. I mean, crappy music will at least hurt the far right. Just as people think of much of the left as punkish, they will look at the far right and note the gradual degradation from Wagner and Strauss to Prussian Blue and similarly dismiss it. Then leftists make a huge comeback by rebuilding their image.

You know what I never got. Why do Neo-Nazis always make references to Prussians and Prussia? I mean, Hitler was an Austrian and he ran Germany not Prussia. I just dont understand it. As someone with Prussian background I was just wondering. If anyone could fill me in on this it would be great, thanks.

You know what I never got. Why do Neo-Nazis always make references to Prussians and Prussia? I mean, Hitler was an Austrian and he ran Germany not Prussia. I just dont understand it. As someone with Prussian background I was just wondering. If anyone could fill me in on this it would be great, thanks.

I think Prussian Blue is a reference to cyanide and some neonazi theory on the Holocaust hoaxing thing. That or they have trouble thinking of cool stuff from Germany.

Tempest in a teapot. These folks are doomed to the margins of society, and the young girls will most likely grow up to be feminists. :D


LOL!

I think Prussian Blue is a reference to cyanide and some neonazi theory on the Holocaust hoaxing thing. That or they have trouble thinking of cool stuff from Germany.
Do you mean prussic acid?

KCN iirc

Bunt bunt bunt sind alles meine Kleider. Bunt bunt bunt ist alles was ich hab.


Gay Nazis.. I knew it.. :p

I think Prussian Blue is a reference to cyanide and some neonazi theory on the Holocaust hoaxing thing. That or they have trouble thinking of cool stuff from Germany.

It's also a pigment used in oil painting (or egg tempera, etc.). It's very nice, but has some toxins in it, so you've got to keep an eye on it.

It's very nice, but has some toxins in it, so you've got to keep an eye on it.

Say... that's the best explanation for the name of their band that I've heard yet! :p

after reading Article can anyone tell me what the Norse Culture have to do with White Supremency if not why are they in odins name singing about it
It's one of these unsolvable mysteries.

:rolleyes: OMG LOL HOW FUNNY! :P and disturbing Did these girls attend Nazi camp for their summer vacations?

Nordic culture (or germanic, more generally, to include all northern races: Germany, Austria, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, Britain, Holland and South African afrikaaners) was seen as a warrior, master race by Hitler (germanic nations do indeed have long histories of warfare). It possessed many of the traits that Nietzsche pointed out as those of the Ubermensch. Indeed, many of Europe's most powerful kingdoms were germanic, and to this day germanic countries are the most powerful in Europe (especially in economic terms). Additionally, quite a large number of germanics have blonde hair and blue eyes, traits that only the white race possesses (even though many germanic peoples have brown or green eyes combined with blonde or red or even brown hair...we still all possess fair skin though). Their imposing physical build and, often, intellectual cultures further enhanced this theory. Thus, they were seen as the exemplar form of the white race. If you exclude slavic, celtic, gallic, latin and greek blood, the remnant, and possibly the majority, of the white race is germanic (this includes Britain, which is seen as germanic, and also an idol of Hitler's). Greek blood is often seen as Aryan as the original Greeks were almost exclusively blonde, until they mingled with foreign tribes, and much racial theory is based on Greco/roman achievements, and ancient greek notions of racial and cultural supremacy, which is why Hitler admired the Greeks so. At any rate, the Nordic race is seen as the exemplar symbol of the white race, mistakenly or not.

Now, these traits are hardly what make us superior to other races. We are not. We are different and have adapted to our environment in a way that these expose themselves. What did turn them into racism was a misunderstanding of Nietzsche's theories, and half baked fascist theory. Personally, I love germanic culture, and I love being of Dutch lineage. Yet I do not consider myself to be superior to anyone merely by right of blood, I think the world has evolved past such nonsense.

It's also a pigment used in oil painting (or egg tempera, etc.). It's very nice, but has some toxins in it, so you've got to keep an eye on it.
Apparently these are intelligent toxins that will jump out of the paint and attack you when you're not looking :p

What's everyone so concerned about, in 5 years they'll just be another pair of internet porn stars.
That would be great. I'm looking foreward to that.

Hmmm....I wonder what kind of college they'll be able to attend....
Oral Roberts university most likely.

I think Prussian Blue is a reference to cyanide and some neonazi theory on the Holocaust hoaxing thing. That or they have trouble thinking of cool stuff from Germany.

Its a reference to the residue left after exposure to Zyklon B, the Nazi's favored form of Mass Execution, which was basically Hydrocyanic Acid. Mix it with air, you get a gas which is lethal in what? 15-30 minutes?

As to these little blonde skinhead wanna-be's ... Well ... They deserve to rot in hell.

6 million Poles died under Nazi tyranny in 6 years ... So forgive me if I'm unable to say anything more on point without losing my temper.

40 million Russians died under Stalinist tyranny, and millions of people of various nationalities died under the oppression and genocidical madness of the Ottoman Empire, yet these deaths were never lamented, and its likely they never will be. Its funny how selective the world is in remembering who died and who didn't. Ironically, its seen as worse to praise Nazism than it is to praise Stalinism, when in effect the two were just as bad. Maybe victors write history after all.

Although I think the girls are condemnable, their allusions to Nazism relate solely to the white race, rather than the actions of the Nazis towards other members of the white race, such as the Poles.

If you exclude slavic, celtic, gallic, latin and greek blood, the remnant, and possibly the majority, of the white race is germanic (this includes Britain, which is seen as Anglo-Saxon, and also an idol of Hitler's).
I'd question that, actually: the Welsh, the Northern Irish and the Scots would be very pissed off you called them Saxons, and even the English have huge chunks of the population of other than anglo saxon descent.

40 million Russians died under Stalinist tyranny, and millions of people of various nationalities died under the oppression and genocidical madness of the Ottoman Empire, yet these deaths were never lamented, and its likely they never will be. Its funny how selective the world is in remembering who died and who didn't. Ironically, its seen as worse to praise Nazism than it is to praise Stalinism, when in effect the two were just as bad. Maybe victors write history after all.
Those massacres are remembered. It's just that there aren't neo-stalinist or neo-ottoman organizations running around trying to resurect those dead ideologies, but there are neo-nazis running around trying to recreate Hitler's corrupt society.

Well yeah, I was referring mostly to England there, and I am aware that many within it have non-germanic descent. Yet I believe many Scots have viking blood, which is again germanic.

Those massacres are remembered. It's just that there aren't neo-stalinist or neo-ottoman organizations running around trying to resurect those dead ideologies, but there are neo-nazis running around trying to recreate Hitler's corrupt society.
Are you absolutely sure of this? :p There are many young Turks who wish the restoration of their Empire and who openly accept its racist practises, and there are many who openly embrace Stalinism and wish to see it revived. They are less likely to be repudiated than followers of Nazism, even if their ideologies are no less vulgar.

That would be great. I'm looking foreward to that.

I've already got it bookmarked. ;)

Well yeah, I was referring mostly to England there, and I am aware that many within it have non-germanic descent. Yet I believe many Scots have viking blood, which is again germanic.
They spread into parts of Ireland as well, I'm told. The vikings weren't the same as the anglo saxons, though, Germanic or not. You only have to look at the Norman invasion to see that...

No argument there. For all purposes, Britain is considered to be a germanic nation, even if its local populace is of different stems of the germanic race, or perhaps not of it at all.

...there are many who openly embrace Stalinism and wish to see it revived. They are less likely to be repudiated than followers of Nazism, even if their ideologies are no less vulgar.

Actually, just about everyone, including most other communists will likely take issue with someone promoting Stalinism.

As much as with Nazism though?

Are you absolutely sure of this? :p There are many young Turks who wish the restoration of their Empire and who openly accept its racist practises, and there are many who openly embrace Stalinism and wish to see it revived. They are less likely to be repudiated than followers of Nazism, even if their ideologies are no less vulgar.
Well, they don't try to march down the streets in my country, unlike Neo Nazis.

40 million Russians died under Stalinist tyranny, and millions of people of various nationalities died under the oppression and genocidical madness of the Ottoman Empire, yet these deaths were never lamented, and its likely they never will be. Its funny how selective the world is in remembering who died and who didn't. Ironically, its seen as worse to praise Nazism than it is to praise Stalinism, when in effect the two were just as bad. Maybe victors write history after all.

Although I think the girls are condemnable, their allusions to Nazism relate solely to the white race, rather than the actions of the Nazis towards other members of the white race, such as the Poles.


Either you read me wrong, or you've got your head wedged firmly up your ass, either way.

The base ideologies are still there. Different way of expressing their beliefs. Just because they don't march down your streets doesn't make them any less dangerous. Covert operations are often far more dangerous than those taking place in the open. They are still not covert enough so as to be completely hidden from the public eye, yet they are threats that are ignored.

Because I feel like a smartassing right now.

Wrong, Blond hair is not purely reduced to the White race. In Eastern Mongolia many children have blue eyes and blonde hair (but they have the Asian slit eyes, and skin tone, and facial shape). This is because right after Rome fell and the dark ages started, one Germanic tribe or several somehow wound up in Eastern Mongolia (damn long travel) , and interbred with the natives forming a mixed race of Asians who possess many Germanic features, and Eastern Mongolian culture you can see subtle hints of Germanic influence.

The base ideologies are still there. Different way of expressing their beliefs. Just because they don't march down your streets doesn't make them any less dangerous. Covert operations are often far more dangerous than those taking place in the open. They are still not covert enough so as to be completely hidden from the public eye, yet they are threats that are ignored.
Sorry dude, If I'm going to prepare to fight a threat comming from Muslim countries it's going to be radical islamism, not a bunch of Turks with delusions of adequacy.

I am aware of this, yet as you say they had germanic blood by grace of the interbreeding. Thus, the fact that the white race is primarily the sole proprietor of these features does not change.

Sorry dude, If I'm going to prepare to fight a threat comming from Muslim countries it's going to be radical islamism, not a bunch of Turks with delusions of adequacy.
Many of them are proponents of radical islamism.

Many of them are proponents of radical islamism.
Well then I'm already opposed to them and would like nothing more than to see them exterminated. Oh, and your argument that nobody remembers the attrocities commited by the Ottomans is false. Use the search function and look up my threads on the Armenian holocaust.

I meant in the global context. Were Germany to deny its wrongdoings, it would be condemned by the international community. Turkey does so in the face of fresh evidence of its genocidical past. No one raises so much as a whisper. The EU of course condemns its vile Human Rights record, but that is little more than wordplay.

Ironically, its seen as worse to praise Nazism than it is to praise Stalinism, when in effect the two were just as bad. Maybe victors write history after all.

Yeah except Hitler only ever said he was dedicated to smashing everyone non-German becuase of their inherent inferiority while Stalin, although killing more people then Hitler and for more pathetic reasons at least said he was dedicated to universal egalitarianism...

The material loss in human lives was still greater. Stalin paid no regard to human life. "1 death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." Hardly words to live by. :rolleyes:

Its a reference to the residue left after exposure to Zyklon B, the Nazi's favored form of Mass Execution, which was basically Hydrocyanic Acid. Mix it with air, you get a gas which is lethal in what? 15-30 minutes?

So they're both denying the Holocaust and naming themselves after the chemical used to implement the Holocaust? How can anybody take them seriously?

we kidnap them and take them to meet Bono....

They would do scary things to him :eek: "Vee have vays to make you scream like de little girl, ja"

Yeah except Hitler only ever said he was dedicated to smashing everyone non-German becuase of their inherent inferiority while Stalin, although killing more people then Hitler and for more pathetic reasons at least said he was dedicated to universal egalitarianism...

That's the reason you generally see people decrying Hitler as worse than Stalin. Hitler was dedicated to the industrial extermination of an entire race. Stalin killed indiscriminately, and often indirectly as the result of hunger. The intention behind the deaths is what is being judged.

Yet it still does not address the problem of the material consequences of Stalin's actions. Additionally, people will always quote numbers of how many Jews died etc. This shows that they do have an interest in the material consequences. Intention may be important, but in the real world, its the material consequences which are what matter most.

Yet it still does not address the problem of the material consequences of Stalin's actions. Additionally, people will always quote numbers of how many Jews died etc. This shows that they do have an interest in the material consequences. Intention may be important, but in the real world, its the material consequences which are what matter most.

The reason that the number of Jews is frequently quoted is because it demonstrates the intent behind Hitler's killings; specifically, the intent to exterminate an entire race. The intention is what makes the Holocaust more horrifying in many people's minds. The fact that it was intentional, orchestrated slaughter.

Granted. Then why are Turkey's multiple actions of genocide never brought forth to trial in Human Rights courts?

Granted. Then why are Turkey's multiple actions of genocide never brought forth to trial in Human Rights courts?

As is my understanding, they frequently are. As to why there isn't any greater understanding of the Armenian Genocide, I would say that because it occured much further in the past and was not as widely reported as the Holocaust.

They have been mentioned, yet no conclusive action has been taken. The fact is most of those affected haven't got the clout to get the retribution they are entitled to.

Oh! Oh! Sing with all the footage of Nazi soldiers hurting other people, and concentration camp stuff playing on the background!

Or just constantly scrawl the banner "HITLER WAS A GENETIC REJECT THAT HAD SYPHILLIS!!" Across a screen in the background

They have been mentioned, yet no conclusive action has been taken. The fact is most of those affected haven't got the clout to get the retribution they are entitled to.

I would agree. As it was a much less publicly reported act and it occured much further in the past, there is not nearly as much public opinion behind retribution as there was for the Holocaust.

I'm highly disturbed, but the twins have a right to sing about whatever they want. Their mom might need to be examined, though, as I have a feeling she's not an extremely fit parent.

Nobody has a 'right' do do anything of the sort. Any society needs some sort of structure and discipline, you can't just allow filth like that to be circulated.

That goes against free speech. We find it okay to have Eminem rapping about "bitches" and so on, spreading his misogynistic rubbish, yet this offends us? He arguably insults a much larger portion of the population with his idiotic views.

Nobody has a 'right' do do anything of the sort. Any society needs some sort of structure and discipline, you can't just allow filth like that to be circulated.

So who would you propose determine what is "filth" and what is not? And what would be the definition of "filth"? What if you disagreed with someone else over whether something is "filth" or not?

Let's not forget that history is written by the victors. That is the reason that the Armenian genocide and that of the Native Americans are not widely acknowledged.

Very true. This further proves the validity of that statement.

Or just constantly scrawl the banner "HITLER WAS A GENETIC REJECT THAT HAD SYPHILLIS!!" Across a screen in the background

I would go with "HITLER AND MICHAEL JACKSON HAD THE SAME SURGEON!" but that's just me

Ad Hominem attacks against ideologies? Rather ineffective :p

So who would you propose determine what is "filth" and what is not? And what would be the definition of "filth"? What if you disagreed with someone else over whether something is "filth" or not?

Ask any large group of people and i think you'd find a general consensus that stuff like prussian blue is out of order.

Yet Eminem's vile rap isn't? :rolleyes: Hmm, funny, I would find his derogative misogynism as highly prone to being labelled as trash.

Yet Eminem's vile rap isn't? :rolleyes: Hmm, funny, I would find his derogative misogynism as highly prone to being labelled as trash.

hmm... interesting. Just goes to show there's a limit i suppose. Not everyone may agree with eminem, but its all just banter really, not serious or anything. if he started rapping about racial superiority or the need to wipe jews off the face of the earth it might be a different matter...

He diminishes women and incites hateful behaviour. I find that highly annoying. That doesn't mean we should just censor him. Nor can we just censor things like Prussian Blue.

so you'd also say that you can't silence people who preach terrorism and advise people on how to go about carrying it out? I'm glad the UK brought in laws to combat stuff like that. Civil liberties are all very well, but not if they could put the population in danger.

I am indeed in favour of censoring certain materials. I was just making a point as to how difficult it is to discern what is and what isn't offensive.

I admire their courage, obviously it isn't easy for them to do this, and since they're 14 their mother can't exactly force them to do it. Imagine what it must be like to be that young and hated so much by most of the world...

He diminishes women and incites hateful behaviour. I find that highly annoying. That doesn't mean we should just censor him. Nor can we just censor things like Prussian Blue.

The difference bewteen the two is that Eminem raps about petty crime while Prussian Blue sings about extermination and genocide, the inferiority of blacks and jews, etc.

This is true. Although what they do is hideous, its also likely to turn them into very strange, isolated individuals. Children who receive that amount of hatred for what doing what they believe is right, will likely blame society later and be severely damaged psychologically. We might be looking at the next Hitler.

The difference bewteen the two is that Eminem raps about petty crime while Prussian Blue sings about extermination and genocide, the inferiority of blacks and jews, etc.
He infuses much hatred into his lyrics.

Yes but even you would agree that advocating genocide is a step beyond hatred and intolerance. Does eminem advocate all homosexuals should be wiped out?

Keep in mind that incitement to violence is not covered under free speech. If I tell a mob to go burn down the white house and they do, I am liable and can be prosecuted.

He nearly does so. He complains about being discriminated against, yet discriminates in the most venal way possible. Amazing. Why should anyone listen to him? Laws change by the way. One day expressing hatred towards a group in society may well be illegal.

I've know about this band before.

Very sick disturbing girls...

Such cute girls, with such evil minds.

Though, unlike the front of RAHOWA (a hatecore band) they don't seem to be disillusioned with the scene.

I think he give these girls a hard slap across the face.

They sing like the South Park kids when they were trying to send the succubus back to hell.

I've know about this band before.

Very sick disturbing girls...

Such cute girls, with such evil minds.

Though, unlike the front of RAHOWA (a hatecore band) they don't seem to be disillusioned with the scene.

I think he give these girls a hard slap across the face.
They have been mindwashed. They think what they are doing is right. Even if they do have some free judgement, their mother has done more than enough to make them hardcore Nazi girls.

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The one on the right has an ugly face (though she's looked prettier before), the one of the left is cute though....cute but evil...and jailbait...Nazi jailbait...I'm three years older.. but it's still illegal!)

The one on the right though seems a little darker than most neo-Nazis are (Sterotypically...most "Nazis" are about 3 or 4 shades lighter)...like almost Hispanic looking (she looks like a Hispanic street prostitute wannabe) So... uhhh if's shes a Nazi...why isn't she more white?

Lay off the tanning before the inbred Nazis mistake you for blacks... and lynch you. Oh wait... that'd be a good thing I bet.

Oh yes... they have 2 of the dumbest first names ever... even worse then whatsername naming her kid Apple.

Nazis are not restricted to very fair skinned people :rolleyes: Any white can be a Nazi, and yes they do usually keep their skin fair, yet they by no means shun tanned skin. And trust me, I think sex is the last thing those girls have on their mind.

Nazis are not restricted to very fair skinned people :rolleyes: Any white can be a Nazi, and yes they do usually keep their skin fair, yet they by no means shun tanned skin. And trust me, I think sex is the last thing those girls have on their mind.


1. Yes, yes. I know. I was being sterotypical.

2. Yes, I know sex isn't on their minds, and they won't get married I bet becuase or even get dates becuase who wants to date a racist?

They have been mindwashed. They think what they are doing is right. Even if they do have some free judgement, their mother has done more than enough to make them hardcore Nazi girls.
And the worst part is that her mother wasn't sterilized, she has another kid with another porn star name.

:confused: Weird world I guess.

There are guys who would date them, yet I don't think they would want to be dated even. They don't seem to be the promiscuous type. Their mother has probably entrenched right wing values all the way through, and Nazism shuns sluttiness (one of its less condemnable aspects).

He nearly does so. He complains about being discriminated against, yet discriminates in the most venal way possible. Amazing. Why should anyone listen to him? Laws change by the way. One day expressing hatred towards a group in society may well be illegal.

But right now it's legal. What I'm saying is there's a difference between being mildly discriminatory and actually advocating ethnic cleansing. I'm sure you recognize the distinction.

And btw the incitement clause isn't just some random law. It has tremendous precedent. For instance there's no evidence Adolf Hitler ever personally committed murder, but in ordering and convincing others to conduct genocide he is guilty of one of the most heinous crimes in human history. And as Nuremburg illustrated, advocating genocide makes you responsible for whatever your followers do.

I will concede to those points. Yet one must remember that when practising censorship, the lines between what people consider offensive or not may be eventually blurred. Its a contentious issue, yet indeed in some cases censorship is a necessary "evil" in preventing evil.

I wonder if they have met any of those that they so despise. They've just been brainwashed by their mom to believe this racist crap. I think I'll go spam their forums some more...

It no longer matters. Their minds have been taken over by their parent's ideologies. It would be very difficult to undo them at this point. The damage is done. Now, one can only hope its after-effects will not be too severe.

Hey, they've got a new album coming out!

As much as I think neo-nazism is misguided and dumb, I can't really get worked up about this. I don't see how their music is worse or more harmful to society than, say, "I wanna f*ck you like an animal" or "I'm gonna pop a cap in yo ass, bitch!!!!!"

Read above and you will see why. I am of similar opinion to you, yet there are valid arguments as to why their music is dangerous.

One more way these damn neo-nazis are ruining the last remaining honor of pre-Nazi Germany. They werent great, but they were at least respected. Now, the imperial german flag is neo-nazi, so is the iron cross design. Anything use by the kaiser or the gov't of the time is neo-nazi
I am of german descent and like to think the years before Hitler were better and respectable. My relatives came to America proud of their German heritage.

You neo-nazis, stop ruining germany for the rest of us!!!

NOTE: neo-nazis do not deserve to be capitalized!

Here I agree wholeheartedly. Pre-Weimar Germany was a glorious nation with a majestic history. One should be honoured to be of German descent, and not bow their heads in shame. Yet nazism damaged this severely.

Hey, they've got a new album coming out!

So does Jurassic 5.

Here I agree wholeheartedly. Pre-Weimar Germany was a glorious nation with a majestic history. One should be honoured to be of German descent, and not bow their heads in shame. Yet nazism damaged this severely.

Thank you for calling it majestic and glorious. I was afraid of backlash but now I am obviously not the only one.
It wasnt the best economically or in welfare, but it had the best military tradition in Europe. Who were hired as mercs? Germans. Who were feared militarily? Prussians/Germans. Who commanded respect in European politics? Germany. The 1871-1918 army was the best in tradition. You did not want to piss off the germans. They had the best army! Even the navy was respected. (It started WWI)

The country steeped in tradition should not be humbled by some bumbling idiot Austrian!

Why does no one remember that Germany was a pretty decent coutry before 1935?

EDIT: Sorry for the rant! I am very proud of my heritage and hate these damn neo-nazis and naziism in general. They ruined germany!

It was an exemplar nation, not merely pretty decent. The greatest tragedy was the removal of the Hohenzollern. Besides having a military tradition, Germany also had an unrivalled educational system at the time. Its universities were unparalleled. I may not be German, but being of dutch blood I have great pride in the germanic race, and thus I admire Imperial Germany. Had it been more prudent in WW 1 (ie not taking on 4 very powerful countries at once), it might have fared better. I hate Nazism for destroying this heritage and perverting it.

Let's not forget that history is written by the victors. That is the reason that the Armenian genocide and that of the Native Americans are not widely acknowledged.
Actually, many of the things that happened to the native americans are acknowledged, but very few people can bring themselves to care.

Very true. Many victims of genocides and racial hatred cannot make any claims to be vindicated as they lack the necessary power to get people to care. The Jews had this power it seems.

They sing like the South Park kids when they were trying to send the succubus back to hell.
They don't even know how to sing - they can't hold a single tone...
And the worst part is that her mother wasn't sterilized, she has another kid with another porn star name.
Well, I don't think "Dresden" is such a good pornstar name - then again, if I were Dresden, I'd kick my nazi-mom's ass and change it to something else.

BTW, love your signature!!! http://forum.susu.org/modules/editor/smilies/Mr-T.gif

One more way these damn neo-nazis are ruining the last remaining honor of pre-Nazi Germany. They werent great, but they were at least respected. Now, the imperial german flag is neo-nazi, so is the iron cross design. Anything use by the kaiser or the gov't of the time is neo-nazi
I am of german descent and like to think the years before Hitler were better and respectable. My relatives came to America proud of their German heritage.
You neo-nazis, stop ruining germany for the rest of us!!!
NOTE: neo-nazis do not deserve to be capitalized!
The Imperial German flag is not necessarily neonazi, but especially the Imperial War Flag (for it is legal to display) is often used by them.
As for the Iron Cross design - it is still in use as the official insignia of the German Bundeswehr:
http://www.bundeswehr.de/C1256EF40036B05B/CurrentBaseLink/W2652H3B541INFODE/$FILE/040914_220_logo_50_bw.jpg
"Resolutely for Peace - 50 Years of Bundeswehr"

It was an exemplar nation, not merely pretty decent. The greatest tragedy was the removal of the Hohenzollern. Besides having a military tradition, Germany also had an unrivalled educational system at the time. Its universities were unparalleled. I may not be German, but being of dutch blood I have great pride in the germanic race, and thus I admire Imperial Germany.

*crying tears of joy*
finally! someone else!

Hohenzollern and Bismarck: two of the best things to ever happen to Germany. The imperial era in german history was probably the golden age.

WHY DONT MORE PEOPLE REALIZE THIS???(!)

two words: old news. how many vets are left from wwi? in the us, the number is around 4(!) or less. no one cares anymore. all anybody can remember is those damn nazis!!!!!!

I'm not saying we should return to kaiser rule (like some russian groups with the tzar), but only a greater understanding. What i wouldn't give to be in the army during those times.

The Imperial German flag is not necessarily neonazi, but especially the Imperial War Flag (for it is legal to display) is often used by them.
As for the Iron Cross design - it is still in use as the official insignia of the German Bundeswehr:

Damn Neo-Nazis...they're using my nation's flag.

It is very rare that I find a German, or even a fellow germanic person, with such pride in his nation and heritage, and I am honoured to have found one :) I would go so far as to argue a return of the Kaiser even. All the germanic nations, save Germany and Austria, are stripped of their monarchs. Yet both nations had the most glorious monarchies. It is such a shame.

*crying tears of joy*
finally! someone else!

Hohenzollern and Bismarck: two of the best things to ever happen to Germany. The imperial era in german history was probably the golden age.

WHY DONT MORE PEOPLE REALIZE THIS???(!).

Well, I do. You're not alone in that one.

They even defiled the words Sieg Heil. How badly they damaged Germany and the germanic race :(

Apparently these are intelligent toxins that will jump out of the paint and attack you when you're not looking :p

They can! You'd be surprised how careful you have to be when mixing your own paint from powder.. you can never be too careful with cyanide-containing dust.

Well, I do. You're not alone in that one.

It is very rare that I find a German, or even a fellow germanic person, with such pride in his nation and heritage, and I am honoured to have found one I would go so far as to argue a return of the Kaiser even. All the germanic nations, save Germany and Austria, are stripped of their monarchs. Yet both nations had the most glorious monarchies. It is such a shame.

They even defiled the words Sieg Heil. How badly they damaged Germany and the germanic race

Thank you both.

While I did love the monarchy, i dont think it should be returned to its original state. unless it was like the british royalty, where they do nothing but get married and wave to the people. :p

Seig heil was a simple military salute that turned to something unreal. Why?

Germany with a kaiser! Only i wish!

Or the Scandinavian monarchies, yes. I agree there. People wouldn't allow a return to the former monarchy.

If i could say something without being called a nazi. . .

The Treaty of Versailles was trash. It blamed all deaths on germany. No one else. Not the french, whose tactics said to throw millions of men to take a town of 10,000. Not the Austrians, who really were the fuse. The treaty sent germany into economic spiral that set up naziism. Hitler was elected because (sadly and regretfully) he promised and delivered. France wanted a buffer state betwen it and germany! it signed away alsace-lorraine in 1871! the germans kicked the crap out of europe and the allies were pissed! without the u.s., more would have died trying to stop the germans!

get over it france! germany kicked your ass three times! (four if you count napoleon & prussia!)

The allies demanded things that could not be done. kill the economy and then ask for money? how does that work?

Germany was reduced to ashes because some people held grudges!

*takes a breath*

nothing nazi in there right?

(BTW, Vetalia, you stole my flag! lucky i changed it to wilhelm's imperial standard!)

Germany with a kaiser! Only i wish!
But we do have the Kaiser:

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/SPORT/football/03/18/football.uefa/story.beckenbauer.afp.jpg
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SPORT/football/03/18/football.uefa/
Other than that I'm not willing to be ruled by a monarch - do you have any idea how stupid our "royals" have become?
Nah, it's fine the way it is right now - don't think Germany is doing too bad 60 years after WWII.

This is all correct Fleckenstein. Having studied History to A level, one of the main reasons for the rise of Nazism was the impracticality of the Treaty of Versailles. And indeed, had the USA not intervened, Europe would have been pretty much in Germany's hands. Hardly a bad thing in my opinion. Russia was on her knees, and the Empire was in great distress. The reason for US intervention was protection of its interests in a matter concerning Europe. It should have stayed out. The ToV is a principle reason in explaining the rise of Nazism.

German Nightmare, the British monarchy may give out an appalling image, yet are the other European monarchies a problem? They seem to be fine to me.

They can! You'd be surprised how careful you have to be when mixing your own paint from powder.. you can never be too careful with cyanide-containing dust.
That's right - make sure you work in an acid-free environment or else http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/rumms.gif

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German Nightmare, the British monarchy may give out an appalling image, yet are the other European monarchies a problem? They seem to be fine to me.
Yeah, I know - there's monarchies all around. I'm just not a monarchist, that's all.
http://www.abfnet.com/forum/images/smilies/king.gif

Then we will agree to disagree :)

Then we will agree to disagree :)
Yup, that's cool :cool:!

Man, I wish Rage Against the Machine was still around. They would run that little racist sideshow right off the map.

But we do have the Kaiser:
Other than that I'm not willing to be ruled by a monarch - do you have any idea how stupid our "royals" have become?
Nah, it's fine the way it is right now - don't think Germany is doing too bad 60 years after WWII.

I mean more figurehead monarch. besides, isnt hohenzollern still alive in the netherlands or was there no heir?

beckenbauer=german soccer god
(better defender than the french :D )

Man, I wish Rage Against the Machine was still around. They would run that little racist sideshow right off the map.

Well, I'm taking up music. Maybe I will write an anti-Prussian Blue song. I'll call it "Lynx and Lamb versus the Japanese Tentacle Monster".:p

I mean more figurehead monarch. besides, isnt hohenzollern still alive in the netherlands or was there no heir?

Indeed, same as I meant :) There are Hohenzollern within Germany even I believe, as well as many other royals and nobles, yet they are no longer allowed to use their titles in an official capacity.

Indeed, same as I meant :) There are Hohenzollern within Germany even I believe, as well as many other royals and nobles, yet they are no longer allowed to use their titles in an official capacity.

I think they're afraid that it will be taken wrongly if they use titles. I meant more if there was a direct heir to the line. No :fluffle: for Wilhelm II, eh?

:D

Think this needs a new thread (for germany talk)? maybe its me, but i dont think people will find it under a thread on rascists!

eh maybe im paranoid (or smart: pick one!)

I am not sure if there is a direct heir. There could be :) If you do decide to make a new thread, let me know :) Smart people are often paranoid. ;)

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