NationStates Jolt Archive


NS Christians

Trexia
26-11-2005, 19:43
Two Parts:
First, I want to see how the NS population of Christians is broken down. Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, etc. Poll coming.

Second, I would like to know what the difference is between the Protestants. (eg: Methodists, Presbyterians, etc.)
Spartiala
26-11-2005, 19:56
I'm mennonite.
Schrandtopia
26-11-2005, 20:28
1.1 billion Catholics can't be wrong!
Heron-Marked Warriors
26-11-2005, 20:37
1.1 billion Catholics can't be wrong!

Yeah they can.

Maybe not all at once, though
Blu-tac
26-11-2005, 20:39
Wheres the non-denominational?

i voted other, non-denominational protestant leaning.
Fluffywuffy
26-11-2005, 20:49
Catholic. I will be the pope one day, and then you can make funny jokes about me being the only redneck pope....
Der Drache
26-11-2005, 20:50
Eh, I think the differences between most of the protestant denominations are stupid and that they should really just get together and stop bickering over everything.

Differences include arguments over how and when to Baptise. Baptists think you need to fully immerse the person and they do it by laying them on their back. Most of the more evangelical groups seem to baptise forwards. And some have three dunks (in the name of the Father, in the name of the Son, and in the name of the Holy Spirit). While others have one (in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Many, espeically the "mainstream protestants" baptise by sprinkling water. There are arguments over if infants of believers should be baptised, or only those old enough to understand what it means to accept Christ.

Presbyterians for example sprinkle 3 times and will baptise infants.

Other differences involve church structure and certain theology. Some of the things they argue over are things like Calvinism and end times beliefs.

They are increasingly getting more political and arguing over political issues. (This I have a major problem with).

All of these things they argue about are just opinions. For the most part they are things that there is not good evidence one way or the other and in many cases its just a matter of prefference and not because they think God likes it better that way.

I just consider myself evangelical but don't really claim a certain denomination. I used to go to a Baptist church, now I am a member of a Presbyterian church.
Schlaackism
26-11-2005, 20:52
Christians? Those people are still around?:sniper:
The South Islands
26-11-2005, 20:53
Christians? Those people are still around?:sniper:
Yup, we are.

God never goes out of style!
Ashmoria
26-11-2005, 20:53
since the poll only covers what kind of christian one is, i chose catholic

i am, however, a catholic atheist.
Smunkeeville
26-11-2005, 20:54
I am protestant, Southern Baptist.

I am not sure what kind of questions you have, but I will answer what I can.
The South Islands
26-11-2005, 20:54
since the poll only covers what kind of christian one is, i chose catholic

i am, however, a catholic atheist.


?
Menoparchia
26-11-2005, 20:55
since the poll only covers what kind of christian one is, i chose catholic

i am, however, a catholic atheist.


is that possible?
Smunkeeville
26-11-2005, 21:01
is that possible?
catholics believe that once you are baptised you are catholic for life, if later you choose not to believe in God, you have been baptised so you are still catholic
The South Islands
26-11-2005, 21:02
catholics believe that once you are baptised you are catholic for life, if later you choose not to believe in God, you have been baptised so you are still catholic
Ahhhhh...

Sitll confusing, but Ahhhhh... none the less.


Ahhhhh...
Vegas-Rex
26-11-2005, 21:04
Ahhhhh...

Sitll confusing, but Ahhhhh... none the less.


Ahhhhh...

Think of it like Rotovia.
Smunkeeville
26-11-2005, 21:06
Ahhhhh...

Sitll confusing, but Ahhhhh... none the less.


Ahhhhh...
Catholic dogma is confusing to Catholics, you shouldn't be surprised if you are outside the church and you don't understand it.

I have many Catholic friends, they are great people, but they can't explain to me why they believe what they do, why thier church works the way it does, or why there are so many (what seem to me to be) arbitrary rules.
Kievan
26-11-2005, 21:08
I didnt think mormons and witnesses were christians.
Smunkeeville
26-11-2005, 21:09
I didnt think mormons and witnesses were christians.
they think they are. It is a fishy subject around here anyway, and to discuss it would probably hijack the thred.........so my lips are sealed on the subject unless you want to start a thred about it.;)
Eutrusca
26-11-2005, 21:09
since the poll only covers what kind of christian one is, i chose catholic

i am, however, a catholic atheist.
Sorry, legs, but that does not compute! Heh!
Eutrusca
26-11-2005, 21:12
I didnt think mormons and witnesses were christians.
Mormons are a classic case of being successful by adding to the Bible. Jehova's Witnesses are a classic case of taking one small portion of the Bible and building an heretical religion out of it.
Cahnt
26-11-2005, 21:18
Differences include arguments over how and when to Baptise. Baptists think you need to fully immerse the person and they do it by laying them on their back. Most of the more evangelical groups seem to baptise forwards. And some have three dunks (in the name of the Father, in the name of the Son, and in the name of the Holy Spirit). While others have one (in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Many, espeically the "mainstream protestants" baptise by sprinkling water. There are arguments over if infants of believers should be baptised, or only those old enough to understand what it means to accept Christ.
The best method of baptism is the one Robert Mitchum used in Night Of The Hunter: hold them underwater until they drown.
Trexia
26-11-2005, 21:18
I didnt think mormons and witnesses were christians.
If I didn't put it, I'd probably be hit with a hate crime lawsuit. So, let's just...uh...move along here.
Cahnt
26-11-2005, 21:19
Sorry, legs, but that does not compute! Heh!
It does actually. If you're baptised a catholic, then you remain a catholic until such time as you're excommunicated. What you do and what you believe has no bearing on this.
West Nomadia
26-11-2005, 21:23
I'm Protestant, specifically a member of the Church of Christ with very very strong leanings toward the theology of Thomas Aquinas.

Fire when ready...:mp5:
M3rcenaries
26-11-2005, 21:24
Im catholic. w00t.
Menoparchia
26-11-2005, 21:27
then im a catholic buddhist.
Eutrusca
26-11-2005, 21:45
It does actually. If you're baptised a catholic, then you remain a catholic until such time as you're excommunicated. What you do and what you believe has no bearing on this.
Oh. Ok then. My bad. :)
Katzistanza
26-11-2005, 21:46
Greek Orthodox in the hiz-ouse!

Recognize, bitches! :D
Europa alpha
26-11-2005, 21:49
Yup, we are.

God never goes out of style!

Yes he does! YAAhhHOOOOO!!! he was never in style anyway, but now the new generations cut int oabout 99% atheist! and i hope to go... quantum that none of them find religion!
The Squeaky Rat
26-11-2005, 21:51
Christians? Those people are still around?:sniper:

Yes, and even worse: they outnumber your group of (non)believers.

Based on the statistic that 33% of the worlds population considers itself Christian, which is higher than any other religious group - including nonbelievers.
The South Islands
26-11-2005, 21:53
Yes he does! YAAhhHOOOOO!!! he was never in style anyway, but now the new generations cut int oabout 99% atheist! and i hope to go... quantum that none of them find religion!

Yes yes, we all know Christians est Teh Suz0rZ. We are the spawn of satan, we deserve to be gassed, burnt, crucified, yadda yadda yadda.

:rolleyes:
Rogue Agent James Bond
26-11-2005, 21:54
you?
Cahnt
26-11-2005, 21:55
Oh. Ok then. My bad. :)
They don't seem to excommunicate anybody any more, for some reason. There's nothing the mother church loves more than welcoming a sheep who's gone astray back into the fold...
Optima Justitia
26-11-2005, 21:58
Bump.
The South Islands
26-11-2005, 21:59
Bump.

What the hell was that for? You don't bump a thread when its still in the top five.

You only bump after it gets off the front page.
Schlaackism
26-11-2005, 22:47
Yup, we are.

God never goes out of style!

Haha, actually god has gone out of style, monotheism wasn't always around...many gods have "gone out of style". Plus, Islam is growing faster than you so..HA! :p
Schlaackism
26-11-2005, 22:49
Yes, and even worse: they outnumber your group of (non)believers.

Based on the statistic that 33% of the worlds population considers itself Christian, which is higher than any other religious group - including nonbelievers.


I hope you know that most christians wear a cross by day and hop in the sack with how ever they see by night.

IT is one thing to SAY I am this, but another to follow it.:headbang:
Liskeinland
26-11-2005, 22:57
Roman Catholic 'till judgement day. Just found a passage in the Bible about faith and good works… *snigger* thank you very much, St. James.

Yeah, it's true that degree of devotion to a religion varies widely. People who put Christian on the census often do so out of habit, or because their parents are noting the census, or because they were born and baptised that way.
[NS]Rivermist
26-11-2005, 23:06
Yeah they can.

Maybe not all at once, though


:D Thanks - you both gave me a much-needed giggle tonight.
Volkodlak
26-11-2005, 23:17
hmm, christianic based on some of the theological concepts of Jesus, and yet at the same time, very, well, not at the same time.

I'm not sure how to 'catagorize' myself....Paganistic Christian, with Jewish though patterns.
[NS]Rivermist
26-11-2005, 23:18
I'm a non-organised-religion Christian, cos as far as my experience goes while organised religions can introduce people to God, they soooooo often also get in the way of a real relationship between God & the individual.

And I'm not sure that Jesus didn't mean we all are the sons or daughters of God; I'm not 100% convinced as most religions believe, that He meant only people who believe He is the only son of God will be accepted into heaven/life after death / whatever you want to describe it as.

I really can't imagine the God I know turning away someone who had spent a life being a thoroughly good person, simply because they'd been brought up without ever being introduced to Him!

But then I don't believe He cares more for humans than other animals either, so probably lots of people will just write me off as a nutter .. which is cool too if it makes 'em feel superior. :p
Trexia
27-11-2005, 04:16
bump
Emporer Pudu
27-11-2005, 04:25
I am, as someone put it before, a christian atheist. I am, however, thinking about buddhism. I like it becuase I does not propose a 'god' as the other religions do, but I may only like it for now becuase I love the enlightenment thing.
Candelar
27-11-2005, 09:09
Yes, and even worse: they outnumber your group of (non)believers.

Based on the statistic that 33% of the worlds population considers itself Christian, which is higher than any other religious group - including nonbelievers.
Yes, but it's the trend which matters! In the past century, the proportion of Christians in the world has fallen slightly, whereas the proportion of non-believers has increased by about 75 times, going from under 1% to c.15%. Whereas they barely rated a mention in 1900, they are now the third largest group on the planet (after Christians and Muslims).
OceanDrive2
27-11-2005, 10:47
I hope you know that most christians wear a cross by day and hop in the sack with how ever they see by night.I hop in the sack day and night...and I wear Golden Cross at nigth too...

Sue me :D
OceanDrive2
27-11-2005, 10:49
the proportion of non-believers has increased by about 75 times, going from under 1% to c.15%link?
Candelar
27-11-2005, 10:59
link?
http://www.wnrf.org/cms/statuswr.shtml

For the non-believer figure, add "non-religious" and "atheists" together.
Carops
27-11-2005, 11:10
http://www.wnrf.org/cms/statuswr.shtml

For the non-believer figure, add "non-religious" and "atheists" together.

Damn it , that looks like proof!
Grainne Ni Malley
27-11-2005, 11:13
Cathoic agnostic -or confused Catholic. In other words, I believe in a a higher power or powers, but I have not been thoroughly convinced in any direction. Mom was minimally raised Lutheran but later explored Buddhism so believes in reincarnation and when attending Catholic church with me did the sign of the cross in a frantic "s" fashion. Bio-father's family was Mormon. Stepdad was raised Catholic by his Irish mom. Now ask me why I'm confused.
The Squeaky Rat
27-11-2005, 11:14
Yes, but it's the trend which matters! In the past century, the proportion of Christians in the world has fallen slightly, whereas the proportion of non-believers has increased by about 75 times, going from under 1% to c.15%. Whereas they barely rated a mention in 1900, they are now the third largest group on the planet (after Christians and Muslims).

Do note that about half of the non-religious people does believe in a God; just not actively. The answer strongly depends on how you asked the question.

( see http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html#Nonreligious for details)
Amecian
27-11-2005, 11:39
Raised mormon, converted once I understood the b-llshit.[Atheist]
Siciliania
27-11-2005, 19:13
Raised Baptist, Baptist family, but now Catholic.
Victonia
27-11-2005, 19:21
Two Parts:
First, I want to see how the NS population of Christians is broken down. Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, etc. Poll coming.

Second, I would like to know what the difference is between the Protestants. (eg: Methodists, Presbyterians, etc.)

Non-Demoninational (but I voted Protestant). I don't know the history of denominations, and frankly, I don't care. I think that as long as you accept the true Jesus Christ, the one from the Trinity (not the cult Christ) then you will be saved, regardless if you are Catholic or Protestant.
Trexia
28-11-2005, 01:14
Weird. No Witnesses here.