NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok, here's the scenario. You are the President of the United States. It is this day of this year. Everything up until this point has happened just as it has in real life, to a tee. The war in Iraq is just as it is now. Everything is the same.

A suicide bomber blows himself up in a crowded shopping mall in L.A. 50 people, including 12 children are killed, hundreds are wounded.

The F.B.I. catches a terrorist that says more groups are set up, and more bombs will go off, you are quite sure he's telling the truth, but no matter what you try (even torture, and threatening his family), he will not give up any more info. And it leaks out.

People across the country are staying home, and refusing to go near any shopping center of any kind, to shop OR work.

So what do you do? People are scared to go to any shopping center, all types of retail stores are looking at having to lay off millions of workers, and it will make 9/11 look like a ripple compared to what it will do to our economy.

What do you do? How do you get the country safe and back on track so that the economy doesn't completely collapse?

Claim that the leak was nothing more than petty propaganda aimed at disrupting daily U.S. life, for Americans to look toward the British example of how they reacted to the London bombings.

And then, obviously, beef up security. Of course we'll be forced to do racial profiling for some time and I'm not afraid to admit it (Being Muslim myself). But of course all people will be subject to inspection at inspection areas.

And at this moment, people will look to the leader and believe in the leader. That's when you play down threats and attacks.

People will most certainly not stop buying no matter how scared they are of a terrorist attack. They will get over it in a matter of days or weeks. Some of them will go shopping that very day.

Invoke Emergency Financial controls, freeze stock market etc. So it does not change for the worse. Then Call up The CIA,FBI,ATF,Homeland etc., find the bad guys, call Delta Force, kill them.

I would get myself impeached, somehow, then move.

Probably to Britain. They had hundreds die and get wounded in tube explosions, and they kept going on. If one bombing in a mall terrorized americans enough to cripple the economy, I wouldn't want to live with, much less lead, these people.

But really, if I was going to try, I would probably create some BS terrorist cells in iraq using Iraqi special operations troops, and then have american troops raid them, finding "plans" for these operations. Then continue this, do it a couple more times, claim we destroyed all of their cells, and just wait it out. If it happened again, I would probably do the same thing again, with some variations. But honestly, its an incredibly stupid scenario. Unless it was the terrorist giving specific cities and days, it would have 0.00..1 percent effect upon americans. They would be sad, but economically? No change.

I'd go ask Dick Cheney, obviously the brain (No really, I mean the Brain http://bushcheneyworld.ytmnd.com)


Honestly though, I've gotta go with Colodia on this one.

As an American citizen, if that info leaked, I'd just assume that Bush was getting ready to do something like commit more troops to Iraq, or finally invade Iran...or suspend congress and supreme court via Executive Order...

First, I bake myself a Pumpkin pie...

invade poland

"Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say
But nothin comes out when they move they lips
Just a buncha gibberish
And muthafuckas act like they forgot about Poland"

I would:

Place undercover police/ FBI/ CIA agents in major shopping malls. Get Israeli training for them (Israel stops 90% of all would-be attacks). Make a speech saying something like "If you stop shopping you let the terrorists disrupt our way of life. The way to beat them is to go about our lives normally".

Such means were used in the UK after both of the Tube Bombings. Since, there have been none.

Ok, here's what I do.

I blow up a nuclear bomb in the middle of NYC, blame it on the terrorists, and then stage my own assasination. But, I don't really have myself killed, just the rest of the world thinks I'm dead. I secretly live off the rest of my life in some secluded cabin in some forest somewhere, and the terrorists stop all their threats because they think I'm dead.

Either that, or just move to the moon.

Ok, seriously, here is what I would do. I was only kidding before.

I would officially hand over the country to the terrorists. I mean, I would resign my presidency, and hand over leadership to them.

After which, of course, they decide to take me as their prisoner of war. I, of course, agree, without resistance. This is all a part of my secret plan, just to make them think they have everything under control.

With the terrorists in command of USA, things don't look so good. They officially make it a Muslim state, and everyone who isn't a Muslim is killed or forced to convert. Oh well, they were all casualties of war, I'll just make some memorial for them later.

Ok, so I'm kept locked in the White House in one of the secret underground lairs with top security at all times. There is really no way to get out, or at least a normal person would think that. However, sinceI used to be president, I know all the secrets of the White House. And little do the terrorists know, there is a secret passage in my room that can't be tracked, and it leads out of the White House grounds and into the nearest McDonalds.

So, I sneak out when it is opportune, and go to McDonalds. The passage opens up into the back room/ kitchen, so I quietly sneak out into the restaurant part. As I get there, I decide to order a Big Mac, because, hey, I'm hungry. The terrorists haven't really fed me much of anything for a few weeks.

So I sit there and finish my Big Mac. It's really good. When I'm done, I put the rest of my plan into action. Before I handed over the WhiteHouse to the terrorists, I implanted a bomb in the Oval Office. I knew that when I had the chance to escape, I could implode it and take out the entire terrorist force, which were by now all occupying the White House.

Staying safely inside the McDonalds as to remain hidden, I pull the remote out of my pocket. As I prepare to press the button and explode the White House, a terrorist enters McDonalds to try and order some fries. I attempt to hide myself, but it is too late. He sees me, and shoots me in the head. I am dead. Oh well. so much for that great plan.

****** But......******

The terrorist walks over to investigate me. He finds the remote in my cold, dead hand. Wondering what it is, and what it does, he presses the button. MWHAHA!!! Idiot! My plan worked after all! And, years later, I am still seen as the greatest hero America has ever known!!!!

I would drop a bomb on the saudi palace and the Pakistani military HQ in Rawalpindi and promise to keep bombing and within minutes I will get all the details of the bombers and the cells (if any).

I would drop a bomb on the saudi palace and the Pakistani military HQ in Rawalpindi and promise to keep bombing and within minutes I will get all the details of the bombers and the cells (if any).
No you wouldn't.

Bah! We're Americans! No petty terror threats are going to make us stay out of the malls in the month before Christmas! Worse comes to worse, we'll shop online!

First of all, I would be wary of the claims made by a madman under torture, as such claims tend to be very unreliable. After tracking down and firing the leaker, I'd station a few National Guard soldiers in the more populous malls of the US, after pulling them out of Iraq as part of the phased withdrawal plan that I would be supporting in Congress. These soldiers would act as security, setting up a fence to limit admittance to the mall and patrolling the mall to see if anyone isn't wearing the smiley sticker that indicates legitimate admittance.

This is all after a big speech to the nation calling for conservation of energy and research into alternate energy sources, in order to lessen our use of oil and deny Al-Qaeda and similar groups of their primary source of funding.

I would also send the FBI, CIA, and NSA to do their jobs and figure out where the groups may be, starting with LA and the place where they grabbed the first guy.

Any other actions depend on the findings of the intelligence agencies and the circumstances of any more bombings that may occur.

No you wouldn't.

IF I had the power, that is precisely what I would do.

And I am very certain that I will get all the info I need within minutes.

I'm not saying you wouldn't bomb the PAKmen. I seriously doubt you'd get any information though. If the terrorist did know the info, he probably understands that the end result for him is the same whether or not he tells you, so he might as well let the plan continue successfully. On the other hand, however, remember 9-11? Most of the terrorists on the planes didn't even know each other before that day. All they knew was what they were supposed to do. They didn't even know ahead of time when...they got some sort of message to let them know when the day was...

IF I had the power, that is precisely what I would do.

And I am very certain that I will get all the info I need within minutes.

No, because the people who lead the terrorists are so deluded that they won't even care how many of their people die. They'll never give you any info...

I'd have my administration leak like hell, people would be scooting out from the CIA giving the guy code names like "curve ball" and have a file on him stamped "highly unreliable" get out through the DHS, or perhaps the CIA. I'd have an ambassador say that the rumors are untrue, and I'd expose his undercover CIA wife. I'd bet that my chief of staff would be willing to take one for the nation.
I'd try to get Amnesty and various Left Wing groups to call it all a crock of bull, and that I'm detaining an innocent man. All the while I'd continue to sound like a voice of caution, whilst the media cooks up a firestorm about the leak investigation.

All the while I'd order local police to increasingly higher levels of alert, and I'd have the FBI running around looking at this guys connections, who he's talked to, what he's done, and people who have similar travel records to him. I'd have the FBI search smart and hard. And nab the bastards.

i would arm everyone and have a good ol killdownapalooza
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then we would play are xbox360s that we had to work to buy then have it die after playin madden for a day :mad: :mad: :mad:

If you bought an XBox 360 to play Madden, might I suggest shipping your XBox 360 to my house so I can play some games worth playing on it?

Madden 06 on XBox 360 is Madden 06 on XBox/PS2 minus a lot of features, such as dynasty mode, for better graphics. Gameplay > Graphics.

If we're going to kill time playing XBox 360, we're playing Call of Duty 2, which is kpwnz0rz on graphics and game play.

I would first of all tell the public. Admit Everything. Tell them that the threat is because of our past actions, but that we are in a process of reform anyway, and the threat will soon pass. Tell them to be vigilant; any suspicion of dodgy behaviour, they should ask the individual what they're doing. Give private citizens the legal right to ask other citizens to open their belongings; This would be done in a manner we call "Reasonable Suspicion". You must give your reason and legally accepted identification to an individual you wish to check. If your reason is good and the other person refuses to do so, you will be permitted to restrain them until police arive. If your reason is not good, the police will see this and can fine the suspector an amount of money - some of which will be treated as an on-the-spot compensation to the other person. If your suspicion is good, and the other person turns out indeed to have some sort of anti-personnel intentions, there will be some financial reward.

Next, I would release a statement to the effect that we do not wish to be seen as an enemy to the world for the mistakes of our forefathers. I did not start this war, and I am trying to end it. The terrorist justification for these attacks does not lie with us, but rather with the mistakes of those who went before us that we too are trying to make amends for. We are a different set of people to those who maligned you; those people are dead, buried and lost to time. We will not perpetuate his ideology.

I'd revoke a lot of my own financial privileges and move to cut the wages of senators and congressmen. It's not right that the nation should struggle for a living while we fill our own sacks with cash.

Security abroad is security at home. I'd restore relations with Europe, Asia and the Middle East. I'd meet on a fairly regular basis with Muslim leaders and develop a positive relationship with them. North Korean and African leaders too. I'd keep up the desire for reform, and explain to them just how damaging dictatorship is to a people, but I wouldn't explicitly demand a switch in tactics; merely explain why we feel our way works.

Once that's taken care of, I simply allow companies to hire the armed forces as security. They're not terribly expensive, but enough to counterbalance an appropriate drop in military taxation. Plus, if the tax-payer is paying less for politician wages, they'll have more money to spend on themselves.

Oh, and the welfare trap will be taken care of. If you can't work due to physical incapabilities, that's fine, but if you're physically capable of work, you may only claim dole if you have been to one officially documented work interview in the past month and are not currently employed due to circumstances beyond your control. If a company notes you having resigned by your own decision, you will not be allowed to claim dole that month.

Basically, ease the tax burden, lessen the risk and provide an extra level of security that it is the corporations' own faults if they don't take up.

Ok, here's the scenario. You are the President of the United States. It is this day of this year. Everything up until this point has happened just as it has in real life, to a tee. The war in Iraq is just as it is now. Everything is the same.

A suicide bomber blows himself up in a crowded shopping mall in L.A. 50 people, including 12 children are killed, hundreds are wounded.

The F.B.I. catches a terrorist that says more groups are set up, and more bombs will go off, you are quite sure he's telling the truth, but no matter what you try (even torture, and threatening his family), he will not give up any more info. And it leaks out.

People across the country are staying home, and refusing to go near any shopping center of any kind, to shop OR work.

So what do you do? People are scared to go to any shopping center, all types of retail stores are looking at having to lay off millions of workers, and it will make 9/11 look like a ripple compared to what it will do to our economy.

What do you do? How do you get the country safe and back on track so that the economy doesn't completely collapse?


Pull the troops out and send a beautiful photograph of a "mushroom cloud" in full color, to all troublesome nations. Along with it, send a message stating that this will be a Christmas gift to any nation that conducts any terrorist act against any other. Any takers? In any case, this should be a blast! :p

Use it as an excuse to mess up another middle eastern country at random, then stand down and let someone else deal with it. I'm good like that.

Pull the troops out and send a beautiful photograph of a "mushroom cloud" in full color, to all troublesome nations. Along with it, send a message stating that this will be a Christmas gift to any nation that conducts any terrorist act against any other. Any takers? In any case, this should be a blast! :p
Surely holding other nations to ransom classifies as a terrorist act, and hence you'd need to nuke yourself?

Surely holding other nations to ransom classifies as a terrorist act, and hence you'd need to nuke yourself?
No, he just redefines the classification of a terrorist act to convenience.

Surely holding other nations to ransom classifies as a terrorist act, and hence you'd need to nuke yourself?

Exactly! :p

Wow... it's kind of funny how people are actually answering this seriously...

No, because the people who lead the terrorists are so deluded that they won't even care how many of their people die. They'll never give you any info...

No. Not those who are leading the terrorists. I am not advocating bombing Osama's suspected hideout.

I am advocating bombing the people who shelter him and fund him (not him personally, but his kind).

Saudi funding and the protection offered by the Pakistani state (with or without collusion of Musharraf) are the major reasons for the continuance of the modern pan-islamist movement. The rest (Syria, Iran etc) are small fry.

Unless these two countries are cleaned up, there will always be terror.

And you will always be wondering why you are not able to catch Osama even after four years.


Wanksta nation,

Don't lose the forest for the trees. A lot of you are too much into the foot soldiers - the cannon fodder.

Focus on the cannon ( the infrastructure - the madrassa, the training camps, supply routes, the funding routes) and the hands that fire the cannon ( decision making leadership and the backers and protecters of the leadership).

i'd make a trip around town shopping... a bomb threat couldn't stop a sworn shopper... that is if i'm the president... :D

Ok, here's the scenario. You are the President of the United States. It is this day of this year. Everything up until this point has happened just as it has in real life, to a tee. The war in Iraq is just as it is now. Everything is the same.
A suicide bomber blows himself up in a crowded shopping mall in L.A. 50 people, including 12 children are killed, hundreds are wounded.
The F.B.I. catches a terrorist that says more groups are set up, and more bombs will go off, you are quite sure he's telling the truth, but no matter what you try (even torture, and threatening his family), he will not give up any more info. And it leaks out.
People across the country are staying home, and refusing to go near any shopping center of any kind, to shop OR work.
So what do you do? People are scared to go to any shopping center, all types of retail stores are looking at having to lay off millions of workers, and it will make 9/11 look like a ripple compared to what it will do to our economy.
What do you do? How do you get the country safe and back on track so that the economy doesn't completely collapse?
I'd say: time for a vacation on the ranch! http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/steckenpferd.gif Let Arnold figure that one out...