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Climate Change: Placing Wagers...

Khodros
25-11-2005, 22:49
Global climate change is manmade and will soon threaten civilization itself. If you disagree, then put your money where your mouth is and join the "it's only natural so quit worrying" side. Here are the terms:


1. If you win, and the current climate change is indeed natural, our side will divy up among you all the money we've ever owned and spend the rest of our lives repenting for our insolence.

2. If we win, you must donate all of your future earnings towards fixing whatever damages result from climate change. You must also agree to spend the rest of your lives in pre-cc housing, which means no hiding in habitat modules when things start getting uncomfortable.




A separate pool will be started for the enlightened among us. The wager is on how many people will end up dying as a result of climate change. Millions? Billions? Place an estimate and whoever's guess is closest will take the pot. Winner to be announced in 50 years...
Allthenamesarereserved
25-11-2005, 23:01
Global climate change is manmade and will soon threaten civilization itself. If you disagree, then put your money where your mouth is and join the "it's only natural so quit worrying" side. Here are the terms:


1. If you win, and the current climate change is indeed natural, our side will divy up among you all the money we've ever owned and spend the rest of our lives repenting for our insolence.

2. If we win, you must donate all of your future earnings towards fixing whatever damages result from climate change. You must also agree to spend the rest of your lives in pre-cc housing, which means no hiding in habitat modules when things start getting uncomfortable.




A separate pool will be started for the enlightened among us. The wager is on how many people will end up dying as a result of climate change. Millions? Billions? Place an estimate and whoever's guess is closest will take the pot. Winner to be announced in 50 years...
How are you planning on measuring the number of people killed as a result of climate change?
Vetalia
25-11-2005, 23:02
What if we think it's both? I mean, it's not going to work if there's a third possibility that results in both occuring...how do you attribute the deaths n that case?
Misunderestimates
25-11-2005, 23:06
4,682,397,943 people will end up dying.

that's not a guess, that's the answer.

I expect my money tomorrow.
German Nightmare
26-11-2005, 00:01
Oh, that poll is just stupid:

Climate change has always occured naturally but mankind's industrialization definitely has an impact on it.

Like, there's always ripples on a lake but we dumped a big stone in it and say 'See, all natural!".

That's not how such a delicate system as our climate works. It's neither black nor white which the poll seems to imply.

No wager from me.
Marrakech II
26-11-2005, 00:35
How about its a natural event influenced slightly by mans pollution. Yes it will get warmer in some spots and also get colder in others. My money is on temperature will not stay the same where you are.
Zarathoft
26-11-2005, 00:41
Should have made one for "Both". Like someone stated earlier, it occurs naturally but the industry impacts it.
Quaiffberg
26-11-2005, 00:42
It's 6 degrees hotter than it was 5 years ago. David Suzuki said we are fucked if you don't start to fix the problem within the next 15 years.

BOW DOWN TO THE SUPREME OVERLORD, DAVID SUZUKI!
Gymoor II The Return
26-11-2005, 00:43
Should have made one for "Both". Like someone stated earlier, it occurs naturally but the industry impacts it.

That's the only real answer. Without natural greenhouse gasses, there would be no life. Of course, things as they are now are gently balanced, so industry's impact is changing things at an uprecedented rate.
German Nightmare
26-11-2005, 00:50
How about its a natural event influenced slightly by mans pollution. Yes it will get warmer in some spots and also get colder in others. My money is on temperature will not stay the same where you are.
If you leave out "slightly" you're about right.
Brady Bunch Perm
26-11-2005, 01:47
That's the only real answer. Without natural greenhouse gasses, there would be no life. Of course, things as they are now are gently balanced, so industry's impact is changing things at an uprecedented rate.


This unprecedented rate you speak of, where are these changes?
Brady Bunch Perm
26-11-2005, 01:48
It's 6 degrees hotter than it was 5 years ago. David Suzuki said we are fucked if you don't start to fix the problem within the next 15 years.

BOW DOWN TO THE SUPREME OVERLORD, DAVID SUZUKI!

I thought Pat Morita played him too?
Dinaverg
26-11-2005, 01:54
Climate changes naturally. We're messing with said changes. We'd be screwed anyways because eventually, something bad is gonna happen naturally. We're just gonna make it happen at a different time, be that sooner or later.


P.S. And in the end, when the sun runs out of hydrogen about a billion years [not to be confused with the sun dying, about 5 billion] or so from now, expands, and comes around to engulfing the earth, that should be enough of a natural climate change.
Empryia
26-11-2005, 01:58
Don't be scared guys. We'll all be dead before we see any catasptrophic changes. It's definately us screwing with the environment, and the environment screwing with us. I say we kick the shit out of the environment,

And terra-form this god-forsaken place :)
Empryia
26-11-2005, 02:00
P.S. And in the end, when the sun runs out of hydrogen about a billion years [not to be confused with the sun dying, about 5 billion] or so from now, expands, and comes around to engulfing the earth, that should be enough of a natural climate change.

In 5 billion years, humanity, if it is still around, will be powerful enough to create and destroy the universe at will. Our sun actually running out of hydrogen is nill. We'd probably just feed it more. Like throw Jupiter at it or something.
Brady Bunch Perm
26-11-2005, 02:01
What if a few super volcanos erupted on a massive scale? Human caused climate change would be the last things on our minds.
Dinaverg
26-11-2005, 02:05
In 5 billion years, humanity, if it is still around, will be powerful enough to create and destroy the universe at will. Our sun actually running out of hydrogen is nill. We'd probably just feed it more. Like throw Jupiter at it or something.

Heh...Sounds like a climate change to me....Yanno...going from existing to not existing :p

And I like Jupiter...it spins fast...@_@
Empryia
26-11-2005, 02:07
Heh...Sounds like a climate change to me....Yanno...going from existing to not existing :p

And I like Jupiter...it spins fast...@_@

After I wrote that I really imagined a huge arm just kind of lobbing Jupiter at the sun and saying, "Hey son! Catch!"
DELGRAD
26-11-2005, 02:18
Global climate change is manmade and will soon threaten civilization itself. If you disagree, then put your money where your mouth is and join the "it's only natural so quit worrying" side. Here are the terms:


1. If you win, and the current climate change is indeed natural, our side will divy up among you all the money we've ever owned and spend the rest of our lives repenting for our insolence.

2. If we win, you must donate all of your future earnings towards fixing whatever damages result from climate change. You must also agree to spend the rest of your lives in pre-cc housing, which means no hiding in habitat modules when things start getting uncomfortable.




A separate pool will be started for the enlightened among us. The wager is on how many people will end up dying as a result of climate change. Millions? Billions? Place an estimate and whoever's guess is closest will take the pot. Winner to be announced in 50 years...

Mostly natural, partially man made.
Earths climate is cyclical.
German Nightmare
26-11-2005, 03:09
What if a few super volcanos erupted on a massive scale? Human caused climate change would be the last things on our minds.
True. Then again, producing an accurate climate model with all the "what is"' considered is hard enough without any "what if"s thrown into the equasion.

Mostly natural, partially man made.
Earths climate is cyclical.
Naturally natural, increasingly man made: Earth's climate is cynical!