NationStates Jolt Archive

Here is a list of cliches that I am sick of hearing:

"Anti-war people hate America" (often used, even when the anti-war people are Americans themselves)

"Pro-war people hate Muslims"

"Anti-gay marriage people hate gays"

"Pro-gay marriage people hate Christians"

"Critics of Israel hate Jews"

"Everyone hates America. Waah!"

"Capitalists hate the poor"

"Socialists hate the rich/successful"

"Communists hate hard work and are freeloaders."

I'm sure you can think of your own.

What I am saying is; can you not accept that perhaps your opponent has legitimate, rational reasons for their positions?

Cos people are idiots.
Discussion over.

What I am saying is; can you not accept that perhaps your opponent has legitimate, rational reasons for their positions?
I can't because there is really no difference in policy between the Republicrats, as they are controlled by the same special interests.

I think people who care about politics are haters because they hate me. But then, so do many, many other people.:p

Cos people are idiots.
Discussion over.

This, of course, is the real answer

...The whole world is festering
with unhappy souls
The French hate the Germans
The Germans hate the Poles
Italians hate Yugoslavs
South Africans hate the Dutch
And I don't like anybody very much

Merry Minuet - The Kingston Trio

This, of course, is the real answer
I know.
My answers are always right.It's one of the laws of the universe that I have to be right all the time or the universe will implode,then explode,the one half will implode and the other half will explode,then the identity of [violet] will be revealed and the universe will cease to exist.

"Anti-gay marriage people hate gays"

Because this is true.

Because this is true.

Not necessarily.

Why would anti-marriage people necessarily hate gays?

Because this is true.
Maybe they don't hate gays so much as they deeply, passionately, loooove Jesus.

I can't because there is really no difference in policy between the Republicrats, as they are controlled by the same special interests.


You remind me of a Bill Hicks quote...


" 'I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.' 'I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.' 'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!' "

Why would anti-marriage people necessarily hate gays?

Because there is no other "sense" to their opposition to gay-marriage, and when that is made apparent, they reach for religion or some other homophobic tendency to excuse and disguise the hatred. It's the same when people were anti-mixed race marriage - oh, they could invent many shallow, more "acceptable" excuses for being against it, but in the end it was because they just hated people of other races.

Because there is no other "sense" to their opposition to gay-marriage, and when that is made apparent, they reach for religion or some other homophobic tendency to excuse and disguise the hatred. It's the same when people were anti-mixed race marriage - oh, they could invent many shallow, more "acceptable" excuses for being against it, but in the end it was because they just hated people of other races.

Maybe they just pretend to hate gay people.

Maybe they just pretend to hate gay people.

:rolleyes:

I can't because there is really no difference in policy between the Republicrats, as they are controlled by the same special interests.
True as that may be, I didn't mention any Democrats, Republicans or Republicrats.

I guess this happens because it's easier to attack the person making an arguement as opposed to the arguement itself.

I guess this happens because it's easier to attack the person making an arguement as opposed to the arguement itself. Yeah, that's why political parties have whips.
Do they have whips in America? If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, trust me, I'm being serious.

Yeah, that's why political parties have whips.
Do they have whips in America? If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, trust me, I'm being serious.
Yes, there are whips in America, i.e. a person in a political party whose job it is to "whip" people into a frenzy over given issues. Emotional people are much easier to control because they don't have to obey laws of logic and reason.

Yes, there are whips in America, i.e. a person in a political party whose job it is to "whip" people into a frenzy over given issues. Emotional people are much easier to control because they don't have to obey laws of logic and reason.
The idea of a party whip is not to whip members into a frenzy, rather it is to whip them into towing the party line.

The idea of a party whip is not to whip members into a frenzy, rather it is to whip them into towing the party line.
Fair enough. More often than not, I don't see much of a difference.

Fair enough. More often than not, I don't see much of a difference. Party members cowed with the threat of revealing what they did in the long hours at boarding school aren't prone to frenzy.

Yeah, that's why political parties have whips.
Do they have whips in America? If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, trust me, I'm being serious.
Yes. Here's a picture of our minority whip.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9162/pelosi6wx.jpg

Yes. Here's a picture of our minority whip.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9162/pelosi6wx.jpg Good Lord, she reminds me of Thatcher.

I have always wondered about the word "homophobia" Does it mean you are afraid of gay people? I would think them to be less dangerous in general.

I have always wondered about the word "homophobia" Does it mean you are afraid of gay people? I would think them to be less dangerous in general.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=homophobia

Hate's had its day. We need to remember some of the other core issues too, like greed and lust.

The rich folk
hate the poor folk
And the poor folk
hate the rich folk
All of my folks
hate all of your folk
It's American as apple pie...

From Tom Lehrer's National brotherhood week. in otherwords, everyone really does hate everyone :p

Hate's had its day. We need to remember some of the other core issues too, like greed and lust. Go to war more often - if you do it right you can have all three, although hatred is usally the core from which the others spring.:)

It is all about hatred. Instead of working together to solve problems we attack the other side. Instead of actually doing something ourselves we attack the work the other side has done. It's like if two groups were trying to build the tallest tower instead of working to build yours higher you spend all your time trying to destroy the other persons. That's why nothing gets done in this country. Bush ran on the platform of hating gays. Kerry ran on the platform of hating Bush.

"At least I'm not Bush" is not a political stance

Gay marriage is certainly not the biggest moral delema in our nation at the moment. You have people advocating torture and people worry about gay marriage of all things.

Maybe they just pretend to hate gay people.
i think its fear of the enormous financial burden that would come of a sudden rush of gay weddings that they would be required to buy presents for. budgets are tight these days!

Does anyone have any foundation for their opinion that *insert political position* is based on hatred? I'm looking at you Fass.

I have always wondered about the word "homophobia" Does it mean you are afraid of gay people? I would think them to be less dangerous in general.

It's an invented word, reall. Linguistically, homo means "same", as in hmophone (two words that sound alike, i.e. their/there/they're).

A homophobe, then, is really someone who fears sameness...

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South Africans hate the Dutch

What? The Afrikaans are the Dutch (and Germans)

I am particularly curious to hear some reasoning behind the "anti-war protestors hate America!" charge. It seems to be rather lacking in credibility, but is constantly levelled at anti-war people in seriousness.

It's simple. If you don't build up the psychological barrier of hating those who don't share your ideas/politics, you might actually listen to them. If you listen to them, you might actually think. If you think, you might lose your resolve to stick to your politics, come hell or high water. If that happens, you might end up agreeing with someone. At that point, the other person has won and you have lost.

See, it doesn't matter who has a point. It's who wins.

Sometimes, I even find myself to be guilty of this.

I can't because there is really no difference in policy between the Republicrats, as they are controlled by the same special interests.
I can't argue with the obvious! ;)

I can't because there is really no difference in policy between the Republicrats, as they are controlled by the same special interests.


At least they're better than the Dempublicans

At least they're better than the Dempublicans

Constitutional Greenbertarianents all the way!