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Rot in Hell Conrad....

Silliopolous
25-11-2005, 16:51
Fuck you. Rot in Hell. Or SingSing. Or wherever....

From the Toronto Star: (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1132872612383&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154)

Conrad Black has asked the federal government to give him back his Canadian citizenship, four years after he called it an "impediment" and renounced it to become a member of Britain's House of Lords.

Black is accused by the U.S. government of being involved in an $83.8 million (U.S.) fraud at his former publishing company, Hollinger International Inc. He faces the prospect of as many as 40 years in prison if he's convicted on all eight counts of fraud, although he has steadfastly denied any wrongdoing.

...

As things now stand, if Black were convicted and receives a prison sentence, his decision to renounce his citizenship would likely scuttle any chance for him to request a transfer to a Canadian jail. Only Canadian citizens can seek a transfer here from a jail elsewhere.

Black, who in a speech four years ago called his Canadian citizenship an "impediment to my progress in another, more amenable jurisdiction (Britain)," now contends the government should grant his request because his parents were born in Canada.

...

Four years ago, Black announced he would renounce his citizenship after losing a legal battle with then-prime minister Jean Chrétien.

At the time, William Hague, leader of Britain's Conservative party, said: "Canada's loss will be Britain's gain."

...

Black attacked Canada's universal health-care system, and "soft-left" policies that he said were driving as many as 100,000 skilled workers a year to the United States. "The head of the Canadian government says they will be replaced by Haitian taxi drivers. They will not," he said at the time.

"To someone just arrived from Haiti or Romania, Canada is a far more satisfying place to be a citizen than it was to me," Black said in his speech.

"Renouncing my citizenship was the last and most consistent act of dissent I could pose against a public policy which I believe is depriving Canada of its right and duty to be one of the world's great countries."


Tell you what Conrad. Maybe the US will grant you extradition to serve out your sentance in Haiti if you ask nicely.... I mean, since Canada sucks so bad. And what's the matter with a nice British jail? you DO have your citizenship there don't you?

Ohhh! Let me guess. Canada's "soft-left" policies might just make for a more comfortable time of it? Is that it? Your much vaunted principles suddenly mean diddly when it comes to YOUR life and creature comforts?

Well, you hate those policies. Remember? Wouldn't be fair to let you take advantage of them now would it?

Rot in Hell Conrad.

Rot in Hell.
Safalra
25-11-2005, 17:05
Rot in Hell Conrad....
I know Canadians don't like America, but calling it 'hell' seems a bit extreme.
Sinuhue
25-11-2005, 17:05
Yeah. He's a rotten bastard allright. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Novoslobovia
25-11-2005, 17:06
The prick is too rich to do serious jail time anywhere.... :mad:
Sinuhue
25-11-2005, 17:06
I know Canadians don't like America, but calling it 'hell' seems a bit extreme.
:rolleyes:

Trust me. He meant hell. It's a saying...maybe you've heard it?
Fenland Friends
25-11-2005, 17:07
The prick is too rich to do serious jail time anywhere.... :mad:

God I hope you're wrong. He really is a grade one scumbucket.
Safalra
25-11-2005, 17:08
Trust me. He meant hell. It's a saying...maybe you've heard it?
Why can people no longer recognise a joke unless it's followed by a smiley?
Drunk commies deleted
25-11-2005, 17:09
Rich people don't go to real prisons. They go to minimum security country clubs that are less crowded, dirty and uncomfortable than your local county jail. They can steal millions and still do time in a more comfortable place than a crackhead who shoplifted a pair of pants.
Sinuhue
25-11-2005, 17:09
Come on now, we all know it...stealing a loaf of bread gets you more time than embezzeling millions. There is a 'golf clap' associated with being 'smart enough' to pull of the latter.
Ashmoria
25-11-2005, 17:10
what are the chances this ploy might work? would the govt welcome him back, make him a citizen again, and try to get him placed in a nice cushy canadian jail?


do y'all have cushy jails?
Sinuhue
25-11-2005, 17:11
Why can people no longer recognise a joke unless it's followed by a smiley?
Because too many posters on NS say shit like that and mean it. Then, you figure you're smart, and go, "good one, old boy! Nice bit of sarcasm that" and they deadpan you with a "I'm entirely serious". Then you just lose all faith in humanity, and roll yourself into a ditch to die.

So please. Make it clear. Because there are really no clues.
Safalra
25-11-2005, 17:14
Because too many posters on NS say shit like that and mean it. Then, you figure you're smart, and go, "good one, old boy! Nice bit of sarcasm that" and they deadpan you with a "I'm entirely serious". Then you just lose all faith in humanity, and roll yourself into a ditch to die.

So please. Make it clear. Because there are really no clues.
Hmm... maybe I should copy whoever's signature it is that says that any strange comment they make must be in jest.
Kryozerkia
25-11-2005, 17:14
I know Canadians don't like America, but calling it 'hell' seems a bit extreme.
But there is a Hell on earth! Look it up!
Quagmus
25-11-2005, 17:14
Come on now, we all know it...stealing a loaf of bread gets you more time than embezzeling millions. There is a 'golf clap' associated with being 'smart enough' to pull of the latter.

That is what the much fabled 'personal responsibility' is all about....:p
The Nazz
25-11-2005, 17:17
Rich people don't go to real prisons. They go to minimum security country clubs that are less crowded, dirty and uncomfortable than your local county jail. They can steal millions and still do time in a more comfortable place than a crackhead who shoplifted a pair of pants.
It's a shame, too, because fuckheads like Black cause infinitely more suffering than those crackheads do. He really deserves time in a federal pound you in the ass prison.
Sinuhue
25-11-2005, 17:22
Hmm... maybe I should copy whoever's signature it is that says that any strange comment they make must be in jest.
You could...but plenty of people still wouldn't see it...most of us have the sigs turned off.

Once I get to 'know' you better, I'll be able to tell I'm sure...but I just got sucker punched for thinking someone was joking...sorry:)
Silliopolous
25-11-2005, 17:24
what are the chances this ploy might work? would the govt welcome him back, make him a citizen again, and try to get him placed in a nice cushy canadian jail?


do y'all have cushy jails?

Well, you'd think that he'd wait until after the election and hope for a Conservative win...

Although Paul also disliked King Jean, so perhaps he'd go along with it just to rub a bit of salt.

Still, anyone who thinks so little of their citizenship to use it as a PR throwaway doesn't deserve to have it returned in my opinion....
Safalra
25-11-2005, 17:32
You could...but plenty of people still wouldn't see it...most of us have the sigs turned off.

Once I get to 'know' you better, I'll be able to tell I'm sure...but I just got sucker punched for thinking someone was joking...sorry:)
Oh well, now harm done. *offers white orchid of peace*

I'm not using these silly picture smilies though - it's good old fashioned Usenet-style text smilies for me. :-)
Myrmidonisia
25-11-2005, 18:05
It's a shame, too, because fuckheads like Black cause infinitely more suffering than those crackheads do. He really deserves time in a federal pound you in the ass prison.
I would prefer restitution to punishment. On the other hand, trying to repay $83 million would be quite a punishment. Won't ever happen on prison wages, though.
Sinuhue
25-11-2005, 18:08
I would prefer restitution to punishment. On the other hand, trying to repay $83 million would be quite a punishment. Won't ever happen on prison wages, though.
Resitution would certainly hurt more though! Let him work, well monitored, and earn only the bare necessity for life. Garnish the rest of his wages. He'd never pay it back, but he'd be much more miserable than he would be in jail.
Silliopolous
25-11-2005, 18:13
Actually, we should offer to take him back and put him in our CUSHIEST prison.

Of course, that would imply that he gets Karla's old cottage, which would first require re-sexing... curtousy of that free heath care that he hates so much.....

And then he can relax in comfort .... until we move in his new roomie... a bull dyke with a penchant for strap-ons! ;)


you want back Conrad? Well this is how it's gotta be.....
The Nazz
25-11-2005, 18:26
I would prefer restitution to punishment. On the other hand, trying to repay $83 million would be quite a punishment. Won't ever happen on prison wages, though.I'd prefer both--full restitution, including selling off personal assets if necessary, in order to make the victims whole again, and then punishment for perpetrating the acts in the first place.
The Nazz
25-11-2005, 18:29
Let me also add that the idea that Black wants to regain his Canadian citizenship for such a reason only furthers my opinion that the super-rich among us live in a world most of us can't even conceive of living in.
Beer and Guns
25-11-2005, 18:45
Rich people don't go to real prisons. They go to minimum security country clubs that are less crowded, dirty and uncomfortable than your local county jail. They can steal millions and still do time in a more comfortable place than a crackhead who shoplifted a pair of pants.

tell that to the enron pricks and assorted other rich rubbish that are now getting ass raped for the holidays at assorted federal pens...you need to find a clue and use it instead of just repeating myths ..federal proscecuters love nothing more than seeing that rich arrogant assholes get what they earned in a nice comfy federal jail . maybe some quality time with Bubba and the gang will teach them some humility .