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Forget the Career. My Parents Need Me at Home.

Eutrusca
24-11-2005, 15:22
COMMENTARY: Could you do this? Would you even want to? What a long, hard road! Even though I consider myself to be a pretty strong person, I don't know if I could do this. This is the very reason why I want to continue strenuous exercise for as long as I live, so none of my children will ever have to go through this sort of thing with me. [ I know it doesn't prevent Alzheimer's, but it does help. ]

Forget the Career. My Parents Need Me at Home. (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/24/national/24daughter.html?th&emc=th)


By JANE GROSS
Published: November 24, 2005
WASHINGTON, Mich. - Until last February, Mary Ellen Geist was the archetypal career woman, a radio news anchor with a six-figure salary and a suitcase always packed for the next adventure, whether a third-world coup, a weekend of wine tasting or a job in a bigger market.

But now, Ms. Geist, 49, has a life that would be unrecognizable to colleagues and friends in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York City. She has returned to her family home near Detroit to care for her parents, one lost to dementia and the other to sorrow.

Ms. Geist sleeps in the dormered bedroom of her childhood and survives without urban amenities like white balsamic vinegar. She starts her days reminding her father, Woody, a sweet-tempered 78-year-old who once owned an auto parts company, how to spoon cereal from his bowl.

Then, in a Mercedes C230 that she calls the "last remnant of my other life," she takes him to adult day care, begging her mother to use her time alone to get a massage or take a painting class.

"Nobody asked me to do this, and it wasn't about guilt," Ms. Geist said. "I lived a very selfish life. I'd gotten plenty of recognition. But all I did was work, and it was getting old. I knew I could make a difference here. And it's expanded my heart and given me a chance to reclaim something I'd lost."

In another era, the task of caring for elderly parents often fell to the unmarried daughter who never left home and never worked for a living. But now, in a 21st-century twist on the 19th-century spinster, career women like Ms. Geist who have made their mark in the world are returning home to care for parents in old age.

They are embracing a filial role that few could have imagined in their futures and are doing so by choice. In fact, sociologists are beginning to give the phenomenon a name: the Daughter Track, a late-in-life version of the Mommy Track, a career downsizing popular with younger women.

Women, now as always, bear a disproportionate burden for elder care and often leave jobs, either temporarily or permanently, when the double duty becomes overwhelming , according to recent studies of family care-giving, women in the workplace and retirement patterns. Although there is no precise count of how many women have walked away from careers to care for their parents, more of them than ever are financially independent, unmarried or childless, which makes it more feasible than it might be for women with families at home. And never have more parents needed adult children to care for them, what with long life expectancy and disabling conditions like Alzheimer's disease.

Increasingly, employers are recognizing this burden.

"Smart corporations are paying attention" to the challenges that caring for elderly parents presents, said Meryle Mahrer-Kaplan, vice president of advisory services at Catalyst, which has more than 300 corporate members interested in the issues of women in the workplace. "It's so pressing because you can't plan for it, you can't put it off, and it's not a good-news activity. It weighs people down."

Despite a growing number of men helping aging relatives, women account for 71 percent of those devoting 40 or more hours a week to the task, according to the National Alliance for Caregiving and AARP in a 2004 study. Among those with the greatest burden of care, regardless of sex, 88 percent either take leaves of absence, quit or retire.

"It is a safe assumption," based on an array of research, "that women are more likely to put their careers on hold or end them because of care-giving responsibilities," said Carol Levine, director of the Families and Health Care Project at the United Hospital Fund and an adviser to the National Alliance for Caregiving.

One study she cites, by Phyllis Moen, now a sociologist at the University of Minnesota, tracked 5,113 respondents as they made retirement decisions. Among those who retired sooner than planned, the most common reason among women was care giving and among men the offer of a buyout.

Middle-aged women may see leaving a high-powered career as an opportunity, not a sacrifice, many experts say, which distinguishes the Daughter Track from the Mommy Track. Arlie Hochschild, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who has written extensively about the postfeminist conflict between work and family, said women in their 50's who had "proved what they set out to prove" were often drawn to "new sources of satisfaction" but were reluctant to admit an ebbing of ambition. The needs of ailing parents, Ms. Hochschild said, can offer "cultural shelter" - an excuse "to pull away and look inward."

That was the case for Rikki Grubb, a 58-year-old Harvard-educated lawyer, who walked away from a partnership at Morrison & Foerster in San Francisco in 1993 because of her father's dementia, her mother's inability to manage the situation and her own struggle to juggle her parents' needs, her career and her own family.

Ms. Grubb said many colleagues "expressed a sort of envy" when she quit. They too were tired of the "gut-it-out culture" of their profession.

Ms. Grubb's father died in 1997. Her mother, 85, now has Alzheimer's disease. But she is in a nursing home, so Ms. Grubb recently resumed work part time, "off the fast track" as a consultant for nonprofits. She acknowledged the luxury of having money saved during her 20-year legal career and benefits because her husband is a university professor.

Cathy Maupin, 49, did some serious numbers crunching before quitting her job a few months back as executive director of a California nonprofit, anticipating a move home to the rural Midwest to care for her widowed father, who is in the early stages of dementia. After 25 years of earning a decent salary with no children to support, Ms. Maupin knew she "could take at least a year off and not worry about it," pay for her own health insurance and avoid the cost and strain of traveling back and forth between San Francisco and Rolla, Mo., as she did every few weeks while her mother was dying of lung cancer.

Her father has not asked her to come home but she can see he needs her. Recently he phoned upset about a "for sale" sign on the front lawn. Ms. Maupin discovered he had unwittingly put the house on the market, and she unscrambled the mess. As he does each time she solves a problem, her father said, "You've saved my life, because I don't know what I'm doing most of the time."

Ms. Maupin said: "That's pretty heavy stuff. I'm in the middle of figuring out what to do. But I know everything else feels incredibly inconsequential."

Ms. Maupin, who has a married sister in Atlanta, is a lesbian and a recovering alcoholic and jokes that it is a good thing her father can no longer remember any of that. The family plan is to move Mr. Maupin to a nursing home in Atlanta when he no longer knows where he is so the care-taking will be shared.

Ms. Geist is sandwiched between two more traditional sisters, both with spouses, children and less demanding careers. Her mother, Rosemary, 77, brags that "Mary Ellen has more awards or trophies than anyone I know." But Mrs. Geist also noted that her middle daughter had spent the least time over the years with the family, busy climbing the ladder of success from a tiny station in rural Michigan to increasingly prestigious positions, on the West Coast and then in New York, at WCBS.

It was there, after four months of crying her way through the workweek and coming home every weekend to help her parents, that Ms. Geist felt the pull of family overpower the push of success. She declined a leave of absence. But Ms. Geist has burned no bridges. Since quitting last year, she has contributed 10 short essays on her father's medical condition, for $20 each, to a section of the station's Web site about health and aging.

Ms. Geist's future plans are vague. Maybe she will apply for a part-time job at a Detroit radio station, she said. A brief marriage fell victim to her 24/7 work schedule. Seeing her parents' devotion to each other, and hers to them, has led her to wonder "who would take care of me."

When her father is in adult day care, she passes the time at a local Starbucks, a touchstone of big-city life, or at the gym, then picks him up for an afternoon outing. One recent day it was the barbershop. Mr. Geist had no idea why they were there. She explained a half dozen times that he needed a haircut.

"No kidding," he said, as if learning an interesting fact about someone else. Ms. Geist got him settled in the chair, complained that the last cut had accentuated his "weird big head" and then softened criticism of the barber by saying, "I'm new to this dad care."

In the car, she always plays the music her father loves and remembers, even as everything else fades. She and her sisters, Alison and Libby, warbling "Where Is Love?" on a 35-year-old family tape. "Now the Day Is Over," a favorite hymn. Mr. Geist's baritone solo of "Shooby Dooin' ," recorded with an a cappella jazz group, the Grunyans, that he continues to sing with after 40 years.

Later, at home in the fading light, Ms. Geist gathers her parents around the piano to rehearse the carols her father will perform at the group's Christmas recital. He wonders what ever happened to the Grunyans. Ms. Geist reminds him she took him to a rehearsal the night before. He calls her "daughter," apparently because he no longer knows her name.

After the singalong, Ms. Geist settles down with her parents for the nightly ritual of wine and the 6 o'clock news. She and her mother explain the day's developments. "Why?" Mr. Geist asks. "Why?"

Her patience answering his incessant questions calms her father and spares her mother. "I'm here to make my dad feel loved and keep my mom from losing her mind," Ms. Geist said.

The monotony of the days is hard for Ms. Geist, as is the loss of independence and privacy. Her mother is paying her a $22,000-a-year "salary" so she has money in her pocket. She has the second floor of the house to herself, two tiny bedrooms and a bath once shared with her sisters. Mrs. Geist stays downstairs to avoid seeing the unmade bed, just as she did back then.

Ms. Geist says that she tries to remember to pick up after herself but that her mother "gets to it too fast." For her part, Mrs. Geist cannot contain her backseat driving and sometimes asks her daughter when she will be home.

But in the universe of mothers and daughters, they have an easy time of it. Mrs. Geist said that Mary Ellen's career skills made her a more forceful problem solver than either of her sisters.

"She has made our life doable," Mrs. Geist said. "Sometimes I can't believe she's here. It just blows me away."

They comfort each other with white lies. Ms. Geist tells her mother that "I didn't give up anything to be here," but they both know better. Mrs. Geist reminds her daughter that "when you have to go, you'll go," but their eyes tell another story.

Across the dinner table, Mr. Geist seems lost in his soft whistling, the soundtrack of family life. But something in the conversation catches his attention.

"Daughter?" he asked. "Where are you going?"

"No place," she told him and took his hand. "Just home with you."
German Nightmare
24-11-2005, 16:01
Should the need ever arise, I hope I'll be as strong and do what's right. That woman has my highest respect. As do all who figure their family is more important than anything else.

Thanks for the story, good one!
Eutrusca
24-11-2005, 16:10
Should the need ever arise, I hope I'll be as strong and do what's right. That woman has my highest respect. As do all who figure their family is more important than anything else.

Thanks for the story, good one!
You're very welcome. This story hit me particularly hard, perhaps because my recent struggle with cancer has turned my mind toward the subject again. I definitely do not want to become a burden to my children ... ever! But it's a great comfort to know that all of them would care for me to the same degree as the woman in the article, should the need ever arrise.

If there's a heaven, I think people like this young woman have a special place reserved there just for them. :fluffle:
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 16:16
I will absolutely be doing this for my parents. It's inevitable, and accepted...and kind of a 'duh thing for us. It is going to be me quitting work in order to do it, if they need really intense care. Any house we build has this in mind though...we're not building up, we're building out, because we don't want to be installing lifts and such later on. The house needs to be accessible to people with mobility problems. It's just planning ahead. That's why we are working so hard right now to pay off our debt...so that when my parents need the care, it won't be a huge financial burden to be less on salary.

I haven't mentioned my husband's parents, because his sister and her husband live with them, and will be caring for them.

To me, it's not necessarily a sacrifice...though you of course have to give certain things up. It's a part of the human experience, and in both my husband's culture and mine, it's just a fact of that experience that you will one day care for your parents.
Eutrusca
24-11-2005, 16:17
I will absolutely be doing this for my parents. It's inevitable, and accepted...and kind of a 'duh thing for us. It is going to be me quitting work in order to do it, if they need really intense care. Any house we build has this in mind though...we're not building up, we're building out, because we don't want to be installing lifts and such later on. The house needs to be accessible to people with mobility problems. It's just planning ahead. That's why we are working so hard right now to pay off our debt...so that when my parents need the care, it won't be a huge financial burden to be less on salary.

I haven't mentioned my husband's parents, because his sister and her husband live with them, and will be caring for them.

To me, it's not necessarily a sacrifice...though you of course have to give certain things up. It's a part of the human experience, and in both my husband's culture and mine, it's just a fact of that experience that you will one day care for your parents.
You are indeed a wise and compassionate woman, oh Great Sinuhue. My hat is off to you! :fluffle:
Marrakech II
24-11-2005, 16:18
Yes I have seen this twice in my family. Once for my grandmother. My mother took care of her after a stroke. This was a 20 year stint. She finally after consent from the rest of the family put her in a nursing home. She had to do it to get on with the rest of her life. Im not sure if I could have commited 20years like she did. Although Im sure I would have given a good effort for one of my parents in that situation. My dad and mom took care of my brother too because of a need for a kidney transplant. This is still ongoing and been about 7 years now. It is a long road and have alot of respect for them for doing what they do.
Kryozerkia
24-11-2005, 16:20
This story proves that there are still good people out there who realise how important family is (in true essence -- embracing the true meaning of 'family values': being there for those who need you)
Eutrusca
24-11-2005, 16:21
Yes I have seen this twice in my family. Once for my grandmother. My mother took care of her after a stroke. This was a 20 year stint. She finally after consent from the rest of the family put her in a nursing home. She had to do it to get on with the rest of her life. Im not sure if I could have commited 20years like she did. Although Im sure I would have given a good effort for one of my parents in that situation. My dad and mom took care of my brother too because of a need for a kidney transplant. This is still ongoing and been about 7 years now. It is a long road and have alot of respect for them for doing what they do.
As do I. This is the same sort of thing that made Jesus say, "Greater love has no man than this: that he lay down his life for a friend." In effect, long term care-givers are laying down their lives, or a major portion thereof, for their family. I stand in awe.
Bolol
24-11-2005, 16:22
I lift my toupe' for this woman.
Eutrusca
24-11-2005, 16:22
This story proves that there are still good people out there who realise how important family is (in true essence -- embracing the true meaning of 'family values': being there for those who need you)
Eggg-zactly! It's not great words that make a family, it's great devotion and acts of selflessness. :fluffle:
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 16:22
You are indeed a wise and compassionate woman, oh Great Sinuhue. My hat is off to you! :fluffle:
It has less to do with being wise and compassionate as it has to do with cultural expectations. Expectations that don't bother me in the least...my great grandparents lived with my grandmother for years and I got to know them quite well. My Irish great-grandmother lived with my great-aunt...and again, we got to know her well because of that. It's just one of those things...I can't imagine putting my parents in a home and forgetting them there...not that everyone does that, and some homes are great...but still. I imagine that I would be able to work for a while after my parents moved in with us...or even possibly less hours, when my husband is home to cover. Who knows. But much as having children can be draining, so can caring for the elderly if they are infirm. I would need time away, and I would be willing to hire someone to fill in for me on the occasion. I certainly wouldn't make the situation into some sort of penance.
Kryozerkia
24-11-2005, 16:28
It has less to do with being wise and compassionate as it has to do with cultural expectations.
Well, it's not always cultural expectations. It also has to do with how one was raised. If children see that it is normal to care for the elderly in the family, they will grow up believing that it is normal.

In my family, when my granny collapsed in her bathroom, my aunt had, with my father, decided that their mother couldn't live alone and instead of putting her in a nursing home, my aunt converted part of her home into living space for my granny.

Since my aunt had a full time job, she had hired a day nurse, who was only there when there wasn't any family to help care for my granny, who, while not senile or suffering from dementia, was on an oxygen machine.

It wasn't a cultural expectation; it was the choice to keep a kindly elderly lady out of a nursing home and in the care of family for the last years of her life.
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 16:34
Well, it's not always cultural expectations. It also has to do with how one was raised. If children see that it is normal to care for the elderly in the family, they will grow up believing that it is normal. Sorry...I just kind of see that as cultural. Family culture, or wider ethnic culture...how you are raised forms your personal culture. Dor example...rural families tend to live in more extended sets than do urban families. I'd say that's a cultural, not purely geographical, issue.
Kryozerkia
24-11-2005, 16:35
Sorry...I just kind of see that as cultural. Family culture, or wider ethnic culture...how you are raised forms your personal culture.
True, though I'd likely categorized that more as moral values.
Eutrusca
24-11-2005, 16:38
It has less to do with being wise and compassionate as it has to do with cultural expectations. Expectations that don't bother me in the least...my great grandparents lived with my grandmother for years and I got to know them quite well. My Irish great-grandmother lived with my great-aunt...and again, we got to know her well because of that. It's just one of those things...I can't imagine putting my parents in a home and forgetting them there...not that everyone does that, and some homes are great...but still. I imagine that I would be able to work for a while after my parents moved in with us...or even possibly less hours, when my husband is home to cover. Who knows. But much as having children can be draining, so can caring for the elderly if they are infirm. I would need time away, and I would be willing to hire someone to fill in for me on the occasion. I certainly wouldn't make the situation into some sort of penance.
Nor should you. If such an action doesn't arise out of love for the one who needs the care, then the end result will be resentment and bitterness. That helps no one.

Caring for elderly parents, like caring for children, isn't for everyone. Those who can do it and still remain kind and cheerful have my utmost respect. I suspect that, based on what you say ( and kinda reading between the lines ), it's less a "cultural expectation" than perhaps you realize. I sense a compassion and gentleness in you which you usually seem to hide quite well! :D
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 16:47
True, though I'd likely categorized that more as moral values.
Which I put as a subset of culture:)

It isn't important to categorise it though. Just as long as we realise our motivations are similar, and personal.
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 16:48
I sense a compassion and gentleness in you which you usually seem to hide quite well! :D
Shut your trap, old man! How DARE you suggest such a thing! *walks off in a huff*
Eutrusca
24-11-2005, 16:58
Shut your trap, old man! How DARE you suggest such a thing! *walks off in a huff*
Hehehe! BUSTED!!! :D
Kryozerkia
24-11-2005, 17:14
Which I put as a subset of culture:)

It isn't important to categorise it though. Just as long as we realise our motivations are similar, and personal.
Exactly.

It is also important that we make sure that this subset of our (us as people) culture isn't eroded through a generation that partially seems to think it's fine to be ignorant.
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 17:26
Exactly.

It is also important that we make sure that this subset of our (us as people) culture isn't eroded through a generation that partially seems to think it's fine to be ignorant.
The most effective way of teaching is to model the ideal behaviour. So, time to practice what we preach...and drop the 'do as I say not as I do' line in the toilet where it belongs:)
Kryozerkia
24-11-2005, 17:35
The most effective way of teaching is to model the ideal behaviour. So, time to practice what we preach...and drop the 'do as I say not as I do' line in the toilet where it belongs:)
I completely agree, and for that reason, if I ever had children, I'd stay home to teach them right until school time comes...
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 17:38
I completely agree, and for that reason, if I ever had children, I'd stay home to teach them right until school time comes...
*smacks you with a frozen trout*
Well, that's very nice. Not me. I don't think I need to teach them that mommy has to stay home.
Kryozerkia
24-11-2005, 17:39
*smacks you with a frozen trout*
Well, that's very nice. Not me. I don't think I need to teach them that mommy has to stay home.
Well...you see, here's the thing - I figure, it's a good chance to get my writing career off the ground and never have to see the inside of an offce...ever!
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 17:43
Well...you see, here's the thing - I figure, it's a good chance to get my writing career off the ground and never have to see the inside of an offce...ever!
Writing? With kids around? What, are you nuts? Or are you going to keep them drugged all day?

I'd like to introduce you to 'mom brain'...or 'dad brain' as the case may be. It's where you are unable to maintain a train of tho....STOP HITTING YOUR SISTER! AND GET OFF THE TABLE, YOU'RE GOING TO FALL!...um...what was I talking ab....I SAID STOP HITTING...NOT HIT HARDER!!!...so like I was sayi...NO, YOU CAN NOT FLY! DO NOT JUMP OFF THE TABLE!....
Jurgencube
24-11-2005, 18:07
My view on this might be similar to what I have over abortion. Just because a tradagy has happend theres no need to ruin your life and future.

If you have a good well paying job, I'd go out of my way to make sure my parents would have good care but quitting my job and denying a good future for my future family and kids is illogical and francly short sighted.
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 18:09
My view on this might be similar to what I have over abortion. Just because a tradagy has happend theres no need to ruin your life and future.

If you have a good well paying job, I'd go out of my way to make sure my parents would have good care but quitting my job and denying a good future for my future family and kids is illogical and francly short sighted.
Why would you assume that leaving your job to care for your parents is somehow going to ruin your life?
Jurgencube
24-11-2005, 18:20
Why would you assume that leaving your job to care for your parents is somehow going to ruin your life?

Okay possibly I went to far implying that. However giving up stability of a good job and income to spend full time looking after your parents in my opinion in some sence ruins your life. While some people would love to give back to their parents and would enjoy looking after them, I think looking to the future making sure you can provide for (your future family) might be a direction I would go rather than personally looking after you sick parents.
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 18:27
Okay possibly I went to far implying that. However giving up stability of a good job and income to spend full time looking after your parents in my opinion in some sence ruins your life. While some people would love to give back to their parents and would enjoy looking after them, I think looking to the future making sure you can provide for (your future family) might be a direction I would go rather than personally looking after you sick parents.
Well, with some planning you can care for your kids AND your parents. I mean...it's kind of a no-brainer that at some point your parents are going to need some care. Just as planning for retirement is important, planning for that eventuality is as well...whether that means putting them in a home, or putting them in YOUR home.

It doesn't have to be you sacrificing your family for the sake of your parents, or visa versa.
Equus
24-11-2005, 18:35
When one set of my grandparents broke up, granny moved in with my divorced aunt. She lived with Aunt Diane for well over a decade, devoting her life to making my aunt truly miserable. When my aunt finally starting seeing a new man, granny did everything she could to break them up, and it still took years before my aunt took control of her own life again, by packing granny off to a senior's home, selling her house, and moving away. My mom worked at the senior's home and granny made her life miserable (nearly costing mom her job) before succumbing to dementia (so instead of recognizing you and being mean, she could not recognize you and alternate being mean and frightened of you).

Trust me, it may be warm and fuzzy thinking how great it is to look after a family member who needs it, but you forget that sometimes those family members are true assholes. Imagine if Sinuhue had to look after her parents-in-law, and had to have them live in her home.

Thankfully my parents aren't like granny was, so of the 12 of us kids, many of us are willing to look after them, if it comes to that. The most likely person is the sister who at 33 still lives at home; she's a vet assistant and she and dad work the farm.
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 18:38
Trust me, it may be warm and fuzzy thinking how great it is to look after a family member who needs it, but you forget that sometimes those family members are true assholes. Imagine if Sinuhue had to look after her parents-in-law, and had to have them live in her home.


*shudders*

Of course, there has to be a good relationship with your parents in the first place to even consider having them in your home. Or at least the possibility of a good relationship.

This is not for everyone...but in cultures where people are used to living in extended family units, there is usually a kind of avoidance of conflict...there has to be, or everyone would end up killing one another. In the more Western 'nuclear family', people don't know how to live together...and it's not something you can learn overnight.

And to be honest...my husband's parents probably wouldn't be THAT bad to live with, as long as the boundaries were clear.
Kryozerkia
24-11-2005, 22:51
Writing? With kids around? What, are you nuts? Or are you going to keep them drugged all day?

I'd like to introduce you to 'mom brain'...or 'dad brain' as the case may be. It's where you are unable to maintain a train of tho....STOP HITTING YOUR SISTER! AND GET OFF THE TABLE, YOU'RE GOING TO FALL!...um...what was I talking ab....I SAID STOP HITTING...NOT HIT HARDER!!!...so like I was sayi...NO, YOU CAN NOT FLY! DO NOT JUMP OFF THE TABLE!....
Hmn...

That's not a bad idea! What's that drug they use for kids with ADD?
Yathura
24-11-2005, 23:11
*smacks you with a frozen trout*
Well, that's very nice. Not me. I don't think I need to teach them that mommy has to stay home.

Nice sexism there. I think it's more accurate to state that *a* parent needs to stay home; whether that parent is mommy or daddy should be determined by practical considerations, not gender. I'm not a delusional feminist nut; I realize that, in the majority of cases, it is more practical for it to be the mother who stays home, but I don't think that should be a foregone conclusion.
Sinuhue
24-11-2005, 23:18
Nice sexism there. I think it's more accurate to state that *a* parent needs to stay home; whether that parent is mommy or daddy should be determined by practical considerations, not gender. I'm not a delusional feminist nut; I realize that, in the majority of cases, it is more practical for it to be the mother who stays home, but I don't think that should be a foregone conclusion.
How did you get sexism out of what I said...I'm female, I'm a mom, and I my statement stands. Don't take it out of context...it was a direct reply to another poster's statement. Or are you replying to the person I replied to:confused: