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Is there a god because if you take religious lessons you would say yes but if you don't you would say no (ahh what the heck vote how ever you like):rolleyes:

Is there a god....


Define, please.

Where?
When?
How?

Somewhere, sometimes, somehow, maybe.

Is there a god because if you take religious lessons you would say yes but if you don't you would say no (ahh what the heck vote how ever you like):rolleyes:

You've asnwered your own question. What do you need a poll for?

There is no god!

There are probably innumerable gods out there. How many give a shit about us or even know we exist? Who knows.

Is there a god Yes, me!

(Disclaimer: This message was brought to you solely by the virtue of 'someone had to say it'. This message does not in effect represent the actual opinion of the poster)

There is no god.













There is a God, though

and he rocks :D

We can not know.

I think so, yes. The universe is vast beyond human comprehension. Something tells me that there is something out there greater than us mortals.

I think so, yes. The universe is vast beyond human comprehension. Something tells me that there is something out there greater than us mortals.
There is - it's called the universe.

The universe is infinitely vaster and more complex than we mortals, but there is not yet any evidence to suggest that it contains any other intelligent beings, let alone a supreme intelligent being.

There is - it's called the universe.

The universe is infinitely vaster and more complex than we mortals, but there is not yet any evidence to suggest that it contains any other intelligent beings, let alone a supreme intelligent being.

"Other intelligent beings"?

As we both said the universe is FRICKIN' HUGE. In my mind...that opens up limitless possibilities.

Even a planet where 2 + 5 = donut.

But that's just silly, that would be the Planet of the Idiots.

"Other intelligent beings"?

As we both said the universe is FRICKIN' HUGE. In my mind...that opens up limitless possibilities.
Possibilities yes. Probabilities ... we don't know. If I was forced to guess, my guess would be that there is other intelligent life, and it's certainly worth searching to find out. But it's just a guess.

Even a planet where 2 + 5 = donut.

But that's just silly, that would be the Planet of the Idiots.
But in another universe, 2+5 might equal Doughnut :)

Well... I say no, but just to be a twit, I voted for all options! :p

God and Jesus are watching us right now.

I think so, yes. The universe is vast beyond human comprehension. Something tells me that there is something out there greater than us mortals.
does "greater than us mortals" necessarily mean "god"?

what are the definitive qualities of this god that must be had regardless of the truth of any human religion?

"Other intelligent beings"?

As we both said the universe is FRICKIN' HUGE. In my mind...that opens up limitless possibilities.

Even a planet where 2 + 5 = donut.

But that's just silly, that would be the Planet of the Idiots.

2 + 5 = donut? You're right, that would be Planet of the Idiots if they can't even spell doughnut correctly :p

But seriously. We could exploit the shit out that planet. Imagine... limitless supplies of doughnuts and all we need to do is teach 1st graders basic addition there to get them!

God and Jesus are watching us right now.
Tell 'em to go get a life.

Tell 'em to go get a life.

Tell Satian I sais "hi", you'll be meeting them soon.

Yes, there is a god.

He wears the mask of God, and he does rock. ;)

God and Jesus are watching us right now.

Sounds like a couple of pervs to me. Why do they care if I'm wearing my Spongebob boxers and lounging around grading papers today?

Damned Holy Spooks.

Tell Satian I sais "hi", you'll be meeting them soon.
What? Who is Satian?

What? Who is Satian?
that would be satan's younger sister, her and Santa are twins, but estranged from the family :p

God is an infinite set. There's nothing supernatural about it. There aren't any secrets, no tricks, no father-figure. Things we think are good, things we think are bad, things we haven't thought of yet.

Wanna talk to god? Easy. Turn to the person next to you. Say hello. Go for a walk in the woods, go to a movie, read a book. Learn something and you've gotten a message. Apply it and you're doing god's work.

ΔG=-RT(ln K)
Works every time. Absolute truth; the very word of god (at least when it comes to figuring out the free energy produced by a half-cell). That "secret" is capable of bringing light to the entire world.

That's my idea of god, anyhow. I suppose I'd be closest to panentheism.

I think that there must be something out there beyond our comprehension... a greater presence of some kind. But I highly doubt any of the 'majority religions' are even close to right about what it might be.

And before you say it... I don't think the Pastafarians quite have it either, noodly appendage or not... :D

Kind of. Look here (http://www.titane.ca/concordia/dfar251/igod/).

There is - it's called the universe.

The universe is infinitely vaster and more complex than we mortals, but there is not yet any evidence to suggest that it contains any other intelligent beings, let alone a supreme intelligent being.

Just to be a persnickety arse, I have to say:

1. The universe isn't infinitely vaster than us. It isn't infinite - that can only be attributed to God, numbers etc. The universe started from a point (the singularity) and has been expanding ever since. therefore if it started with a finite size it can never be infinite. Just really really fucking huge. Therefore the best it can hope to be is really really fuckingly vaster than us.

2. It isn't infinitely more complex than us either. Using the above reasoning the best it can be is... (read above post) etc etc. But even that isn't true. On the most basic scale the universe is almost insultingly simple lol. All the rest of the complexity is simplicity put together in interesting ways.

3. There's even less evidence to suggest that there isn't some other life form out there, and given our level of intelligence, it wouldn't be to hard for it to be more intelligent than us. The probability is that, with the universe the size and diversity that it is, there is other life out there. A mere lack of evidence on our part - we who haven't got past our own frickin' moon, is (a) hardly surprising and (b) exceptionally arrogant to assume that it means there isn't any. After all, if we don't know it it can't possibly be true right? Just like the mathematics of trinary (or whatever the word is) star formations.

Kind of. Look here (http://www.titane.ca/concordia/dfar251/igod/).

Heh... worth a couple minutes, just for the sheer amusement of now being able to tell the hyper-religious: "Of course I have spoken to God... and he said he would have to ask his botmaster how to proceed..."

does "greater than us mortals" necessarily mean "god"?

what are the definitive qualities of this god that must be had regardless of the truth of any human religion?

In my opinion a "god" needs these qualities; omnipotence, all-knowingness, and imortality.

They may not exist in this universe...but...I'm keeping an open mind.

(NOTE: With all that power in thier hands, gods have the potential to be either all-benevolent...or complete jackasses.)

Personally i think religion is the crutch of the insecure as it gives meaning to a life that is meaningless. Believe what you will.

God and Jesus are watching us right now.

But did they vote on the poll?

Personally i think religion is the crutch of the insecure as it gives meaning to a life that is meaningless. Believe what you will.

That's cool. Personally, I think that particular belief is a crutch of the spiritually impoverished as it gives a feeling to superiority to a person who is confused by the beliefs of others. Believe what you will. I certainly do! :p

That's cool. Personally, I think that particular belief is a crutch of the spiritually impoverished as it gives a feeling to superiority to a person who is confused by the beliefs of others. Believe what you will. I certainly do! :p

Personally I believe that the belief that that particular belief is a crutch of the spiritually impoverished as it gives a feeling to superiority to a person who is confused by the beliefs of others is a crutch for those who feel the need to support the beliefs which they realise to be a crutch for the weak-minded.

(This is fun, your turn. Last one to give up in despair at the pointlessness of the conversation wins!!):)

Is there a god because if you take religious lessons you would say yes but if you don't you would say no (ahh what the heck vote how ever you like):rolleyes:

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point god out to me and i'll give you a shiny penny.

Personally I believe that the belief that that particular belief is a crutch of the spiritually impoverished as it gives a feeling to superiority to a person who is confused by the beliefs of others is a crutch for those who feel the need to support the beliefs which they realise to be a crutch for the weak-minded.

(This is fun, your turn. Last one to give up in despair at the pointlessness of the conversation wins!!):)

Well, personally, I believe that that belief you stated is a crutch of those that feel inferior and intimidated around people with beliefs they can't understand. Much like purchase justification for physical products, the best way to make yourself feel better about your own stupid beliefs is to ridicule the stupid beliefs of others (and it really does make you feel better too!) :D

I don´t care

In my opinion a "god" needs these qualities; omnipotence, all-knowingness, and imortality.

They may not exist in this universe...but...I'm keeping an open mind.

(NOTE: With all that power in thier hands, gods have the potential to be either all-benevolent...or complete jackasses.)
do you think that there must be only one such being or might there be a community of them. (like on olympus only with better "gods")

im not sure about the omnipotence but all knowing and immortal (and very powerful) would seem necessary to me.

Interesting debate, but couldI just point out something odd? The percentages for the poll seem to be 58.14% for, 46.51% against, and 27.91% uncaring. That's great and all, but doesn't that add up to around 132%? I guess that must be proof of God: she adjusted the laws of mathematics! Cool!

Interesting debate, but couldI just point out something odd? The percentages for the poll seem to be 58.14% for, 46.51% against, and 27.91% uncaring. That's great and all, but doesn't that add up to around 132%? I guess that must be proof of God: she adjusted the laws of mathematics! Cool!
there are 43 voters casting 57 votes.

must be democrats




its just a JOKE, dont take things so seriously!

Well, personally, I believe that that belief you stated is a crutch of those that feel inferior and intimidated around people with beliefs they can't understand. Much like purchase justification for physical products, the best way to make yourself feel better about your own stupid beliefs is to ridicule the stupid beliefs of others (and it really does make you feel better too!) :D

Well I believe that that belief is a perect paradigm of the proactively defensive mindset that frequently discombobulates the deistic viewpoint by assuming that their unquantified beliefs can be defended through a lack of disproof and the usage of unnecessarily complex vocabulary.:D

Interesting debate, but couldI just point out something odd? The percentages for the poll seem to be 58.14% for, 46.51% against, and 27.91% uncaring. That's great and all, but doesn't that add up to around 132%? I guess that must be proof of God: she adjusted the laws of mathematics! Cool!

1. I voted for all three options because I was bored.
2. The fact that the statistics didnt work out was an act of God.
3. My pointless existance was responsible for screwing up the results.
4. Therefore, my stupidity was an act of God.
5. Ergo, as it is my stupidity then logically speaking I must be God!

QED.:p

Well I believe that that belief is a perect paradigm of the proactively defensive mindset that frequently discombobulates the deistic viewpoint by assuming that their unquantified beliefs can be defended through a lack of disproof and the usage of unnecessarily complex vocabulary.:D

Oooooo. Your vocabularity is impressibly astoundine! You should consider voluntariling for a philosophian debate! Truly, your worditude renders you the perfectan participatanor for such a titanial clash of agilitan minds! I coincede to your most well spaken point, and trust that your understandicide of your most auspicing choice of words are as agreeafle as your abiltine to type them! I name you Randomlittleisland the Witless! For you are completely sobreitous and without humour! Truly, Randomlittleisland, you are without wits! Without a hint of churlinity, might I add.

Here, have a fluffle. :fluffle: Let's be friends! :)

"Other intelligent beings"?

As we both said the universe is FRICKIN' HUGE. In my mind...that opens up limitless possibilities.

Even a planet where 2 + 5 = donut.

But that's just silly, that would be the Planet of the Idiots.
Isn't planet of the Idiots the same planet as the Planet of the Apes?;)

God, being neither omnipotent, omniscient nor immortal, exists.

Oooooo. Your vocabularity is impressibly astoundine! You should consider voluntariling for a philosophian debate! Truly, your worditude renders you the perfectan participatanor for such a titanial clash of agilitan minds! I coincede to your most well spaken point, and trust that your understandicide of your most auspicing choice of words are as agreeafle as your abiltine to type them! I name you Randomlittleisland the Witless! For you are completely sobreitous and without humour! Truly, Randomlittleisland, you are without wits! Without a hint of churlinity, might I add.

Here, have a fluffle. :fluffle: Let's be friends! :)

Fair enough, I'll even add you to my sig.:) :fluffle:

Just to be a persnickety arse, I have to say:

1. The universe isn't infinitely vaster than us. It isn't infinite .....
I knew I shouldn't have been so sloppy with my language. :) You're quite right.

3. There's even less evidence to suggest that there isn't some other life form out there, and given our level of intelligence, it wouldn't be to hard for it to be more intelligent than us. The probability is that, with the universe the size and diversity that it is, there is other life out there. A mere lack of evidence on our part - we who haven't got past our own frickin' moon, is (a) hardly surprising and (b) exceptionally arrogant to assume that it means there isn't any. After all, if we don't know it it can't possibly be true right? Just like the mathematics of trinary (or whatever the word is) star formations.
Unless we succeed in investigating every possible location where intelligent life may reside, there will never be firm evidence that there isn't intelligent life out there. You find evidence for what is, not what isn't.

I didn't suggest that it can't be true, or that we should assume it isn't. As a working hypothesis, it's fine (and I suspect it might be right - I'm all in favour of SETI). It's simply fallacious to make an assumption either way, that's all!

It's "Don't give a damn"

:headbang:
Dam should read Damn

...should have question marks (??) not exclamation points if it was a question.

It's "Don't give a damn"
I've heard it suggested that was originally "dam", not "damn". A "dam" was a low-value coin in British India, so "I don't give a dam" was the equivalent of the French "I don't give a sou".

Yes, I do indeed exist. I don't mind if you don't believe in me because I believe in you.

There are many gods but only one GOD:)