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I am an American (or US-ian, if you prefer) and I just wanted to say I'm sorry. This wasn't my idea. If all you other countries decide to depose our leaders and try them for war crimes, please don't occupy our lands like the Soviets did to East Germany. We can get along just fine without a federal government. All of our states have more than enough of their own governments.

If it seems unlikely consider that the men who wanted a war with Iraq also want to blow up Syria and have a war with Iran. Actually, a small level of conflict with both of these states has already begun. Some of these idiots think having a war with China would be a good idea. Add all the Chinese with to the world-wide muslim population, and half the world is our enemy in the eyes of at least a handful of sociopaths with a bit too much political power. Our military can bring impressive destruction, but it is not capable of winning a war against the rest of the world.

I'm not asking to be rescued or liberated from my government. The last thing I want is a bunch of knuckleheads with blue hats running around taking our guns away. It just seems that there's a damn good chance that things will end badly - WWII Germany badly. I hope to avoid this, but there's little I can do myself.

BTW, Europeans that come to the US can often be frustrated with us and our ways, but they tend to tolerate us a little better when they learn that we're not all blissfully ignorant foolish blow-hard idiots.

It just seems that there's a damn good chance that things will end badly - WWII Germany badly.
However idiotic and bad and insane our leaders may be, they are not Hitler. I am not living in a concentration camp or in fear of being gased todeath by my government (I am Jewish). No other ethnic group in this country is living with that fear. We have not annexed any other part of the world, or invaded anywhere and declared it US territory. We are not headed down the same road as Nazi Germany, we are headed down a road of our own making, one which we do not yet know how it will end.

As an American, I'd like to apologize to the world for the behavior of certain grovelling, limp-wristed individuals who, (although certainly not here on NS, and certainly not in this thread) feel a need to offer unsolicited apologies for our nation's actions, based on Nazi hyperbole and overblown hand-wringing.

So sorry.. :(

Was anyone else expecting a suicide note when they saw 'dear world' ?

Was anyone else expecting a suicide note when they saw 'dear world' ?
I was.

Was anyone else expecting a suicide note when they saw 'dear world' ?
Might have been more fun than this.

As an American, I'd like to apologize to the world for the behavior of certain grovelling, limp-wristed individuals who, (although certainly not here on NS, and certainly not in this thread) feel a need to offer unsolicited apologies for our nation's actions, based on Nazi hyperbole and overblown hand-wringing.

So sorry.. :(

Oooh, "limp-wristed". Way to go for the bigger man approach.

Might have been more fun than this.

True, but then, what would we do in that situation?

At least with this scenario we are granted the opportunity to view more partisan foolishness! :p

I've got no problem disagreeing with the US government, but as a policy, it's usually best to apologize for the things that you have some control over/responsibility for. If someone else makes a completely asinine statement, it's not someone else's place to apologize for what they said.

True, but then, what would we do in that situation?
Hmm....
I guess I had not thought about it that way. In fact, now thatI think about it, my comment about a suicide note being more fun was probably not in the best of taste. I would like to apologize to everyone. Suicide and suicidality are not things which should be joked about, they are serious, and I have had friends and family who have had to deal with them.

Oooh, "limp-wristed". Way to go for the bigger man approach.

Well, to descibe a tone of "please don't hurt me when you invade my country.. I'm on your side! *pee-stains*", I thought it a colorful option.

I've got no problem disagreeing with the US government, but as a policy, it's usually best to apologize for the things that you have some control over/responsibility for. If someone else makes a completely asinine statement, it's not someone else's place to apologize for what they said.
That's right. In fact, if we want to apologize, then instead we should all go out and vote, and kick the republicans out of power (thank God for our right to vote, it lets us overthrow the government every few years should we wish, and all without any violence or bloodshed)

One, I thought I was going to read a sucide note. And I was dissapointed by an American apologetic.

Two: Limp-wristed = pansy = girly man

Limp-wristed is so...not manly. Get better synonims. And learn how to speel, bekawse 1 speelle goode. :p

One, I thought I was going to read a sucide note. And I was dissapointed by an American apologetic.


Damn it, why isn't this guy killing himself?!:mad:

Damn it, why isn't this guy killing himself?!:mad:

I mean the OP, and I don't actually want him to die.

Would be funny to see why he was going to, though...

I am an American (or US-ian, if you prefer)

Who the hell prefers USian, and why the hell would you listen to such an assinine opinion?

Who the hell prefers USian, and why the hell would you listen to such an assinine opinion?

Some folks seem to lapse into fits of rage by the time they type the "e," if they're trying to spell the whole thing, so they either throw a bunch of "k"s in there someplace to balance out the anger, or some other variant.. at least on some liberal forums.. :p

Who the hell prefers USian, and why the hell would you listen to such an assinine opinion?
Argentines. I have an uncle from Argentina. He doesn't call us USians, but citizens of the United States.

Argentines. I have an uncle from Argentina. He doesn't call us USians, but citizens of the United States.

I guess i can see using "citizens of the United States", although I personally find it a little odd and long winded. But USian? That's like being odd and long winded, but for lazy people.

I guess i can see using "citizens of the United States", although I personally find it a little odd and long winded. But USian? That's like being odd and long winded, but for lazy people.
Yup.:D

Why in hells name do you 'Americans' feel the need to appologise for your ridiculous government? What is the point in that? Are you trying to prove that by saying what you do, the rest of the world will somehow find it in their hearts to forgive your unexplicably poor voting senses? How can you call yourselves an intelligent nation when that many of you voted in a phycotic maniac! :headbang: I laugh at your country and its childish behaviour towards others, Grow up, overthrow George W Bush (jnr) and do something decent for the world, instead of plotting to blow it all up. Fools.


NB:This message is not meant to offend the more sensible members of the US, only the red necks, hillbillies, Republican supporters, and any person who votes for, or has in the past voted for, George 'big waz' Bush.

:headbang: :rolleyes: :confused: :mp5: :mad: :upyours:

However idiotic and bad and insane our leaders may be, they are not Hitler. I .


Never assume Hitler was soley responsible for that whole mess.
Every insane dictator has a handful of very scary, intelligent pyschopaths who do the real work, and are usually the real brains behind the operation.

It may have been Hitlers dream, but it was Geobbels and Hess, and Eichmann who made it a reality.

Albeit Bush is unlikely to attempt anything quite as evil as Hitler, remember that Bush himself is pretty much a dumb hick, with an education.
Its Rove, and Cheney and the like who make Bush dangerous.

Why in hells name do you 'Americans' feel the need to appologise for your ridiculous government? What is the point in that? Are you trying to prove that by saying what you do, the rest of the world will somehow find it in their hearts to forgive your unexplicably poor voting senses? How can you call yourselves an intelligent nation when that many of you voted in a phycotic maniac! :headbang: I laugh at your country and its childish behaviour towards others, Grow up, overthrow George W Bush (jnr) and do something decent for the world, instead of plotting to blow it all up. Fools.


NB:This message is not meant to offend the more sensible members of the US, only the red necks, hillbillies, Republican supporters, and any person who votes for, or has in the past voted for, George 'big waz' Bush.

:headbang: :rolleyes: :confused: :mp5: :mad: :upyours:

Screw turkey, I'm having BBQed puppet!

Why in hells name do you 'Americans' feel the need to appologise for your ridiculous government? What is the point in that? Are you trying to prove that by saying what you do, the rest of the world will somehow find it in their hearts to forgive your unexplicably poor voting senses? How can you call yourselves an intelligent nation when that many of you voted in a phycotic maniac! :headbang: I laugh at your country and its childish behaviour towards others, Grow up, overthrow George W Bush (jnr) and do something decent for the world, instead of plotting to blow it all up. Fools.


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Oh, like you people never allowed an idiot to take charge.

Cromwell.

Thatcher. (Falklands anyone?)

Considering the number of Douchebags England has watched take control, I'd say the U.S is allowed one or two more.

NB:This message is not meant to offend the more sensible members of the US, only the red necks, hillbillies, Republican supporters, and any person who votes for, or has in the past voted for, George 'big waz' Bush.

:headbang: :rolleyes: :confused: :mp5: :mad: :upyours:
Welcome to NS General. You'll fit in perfectly. :D

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As for the original post...you can only appologise for something that you did yourself. It is not in the hands of any single person to change the policy of your nation, nor is it necessary for you to appologise for it.

I'd much prefer the establishment of a proper opposition in the US - one independent of whatever large media organisations decide to be the whim of the day and one independent of the disturbing idea that there is only one plausible action when it comes to "National Security" - namely to take the harsh path of bombing others and destroying your own civil rights.

Rather than sit in front of your PC and feel sorry for yourself (and us I presume), you should be going out there and do what you can to change it. That's what you're protecting your democracy and your freedoms for, remember?

Oh, like you people never allowed an idiot to take charge.
Why are you assuming he's British? :confused:

Why are you assuming he's British? :confused:


Becuase Im listening to a documentary on that Naked Chef guy, and television has warped my fragile little mind.

Becuase Im listening to a documentary on that Naked Chef guy, and television has warped my fragile little mind.

I watched that too hehe. :) Woke up and my TV was on A&E, have no idea what I was watching before I passed out tho. Was cool what he did with the Fifteen restaurant and getting the school kids to eat healthier.

Welcome to NS General. You'll fit in perfectly. :D
Hehe. General.. Ahh yes.
As for the OP.. Perhaps America is heading down a dangerious path, perhaps not. I think it's a little early to predict a Nazi like situation just now. Let's just relax a little and see what happens over the next decade or so.

That's right. In fact, if we want to apologize, then instead we should all go out and vote, and kick the republicans out of power (thank God for our right to vote, it lets us overthrow the government every few years should we wish, and all without any violence or bloodshed)
In the tune of "Badger badger badger":
Nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense, bullshit bullshit
Nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense, bullshit bullshit
Nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense nonsense, there's no right to vote and democracy's a joke
[repeat]

1. The ability to vote does not "let us overthrow the government". It only makes such things more difficult.
2. The problem is not that Republicans are in power. Most Democrats voted for the Iraq war and none, that I'm aware of, are actively opposing the wars to come in Iran and Syria. And, as the Republican ship begins to sink, some warhawks are reinventing themselves as Democrats. They have no strong party or ideological affiliation, except perhaps to Strauss.

Who the hell prefers USian, and why the hell would you listen to such an assinine opinion?Sometimes non-US-ian Americans are annoyed by the way we refer to ourselves as Americans, ignoring that fact that Canadians, Mexicans, and South Americans are all technically Americans. And actually, I'm bothered by the fact that there is no truely descriptive word for the citizens of the USA. So I suppose that the reason I would listen to such an assinine opinion is because I share it. It's not really that big of a deal though. It's a semantic pet peeve.

Why in hells name do you 'Americans' feel the need to appologise for your ridiculous government? What is the point in that? Are you trying to prove that by saying what you do, the rest of the world will somehow find it in their hearts to forgive your unexplicably poor voting senses?I'm just one guy. I never voted for anyone who's in power right now. There is no poor voting to forgive.

How can you call yourselves an intelligent nation when that many of you voted in a phycotic maniac!Again, I'm just one person. I never said this was an intelligent nation. I don't even think there is such a thing.

:headbang: I laugh at your country and its childish behaviour towards others, Grow up, overthrow George W Bush (jnr) and do something decent for the world, instead of plotting to blow it all up. Fools.One more time, I'm just one guy. I'm in no place to overthrow the President. And I have no plans to blow up the world.


NB:This message is not meant to offend the more sensible members of the US, only the red necks, hillbillies, Republican supporters, and any person who votes for, or has in the past voted for, George 'big waz' Bush.At the beginning of this post you asked why Americans feel a need to appologize for their government, but it makes no sense if these are the folks you are addressing. They don't understand.

Sometimes non-US-ian Americans are annoyed by the way we refer to ourselves as Americans, ignoring that fact that Canadians, Mexicans, and South Americans are all technically Americans. And actually, I'm bothered by the fact that there is no truely descriptive word for the citizens of the USA. So I suppose that the reason I would listen to such an assinine opinion is because I share it. It's not really that big of a deal though. It's a semantic pet peeve.

What are we supposed to call ourselves? United Statesians? Assholians? Just wondering.

Welcome to NS General. You'll fit in perfectly. :D

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As for the original post...you can only appologise for something that you did yourself. It is not in the hands of any single person to change the policy of your nation, nor is it necessary for you to appologise for it.

I'd much prefer the establishment of a proper opposition in the US - one independent of whatever large media organisations decide to be the whim of the day and one independent of the disturbing idea that there is only one plausible action when it comes to "National Security" - namely to take the harsh path of bombing others and destroying your own civil rights.

Rather than sit in front of your PC and feel sorry for yourself (and us I presume), you should be going out there and do what you can to change it. That's what you're protecting your democracy and your freedoms for, remember?I'm just one guy. The best I can do is speak up. That's what I'm trying to do. That's why you see me here. I am a politcal athiest. I do not believe in the democratic process. I don't expect you to understand. In 2000, I did not vote. If I had, it would've been for Bush, but my vote wouldn't have changed the results no matter who I voted for. If I had known then what I know now, there are a few things I could've done to help the situation. I feel only slightly responsible for the way things are, but I wish to appologize nonetheless. I do not feel sorry for myself. I honestly want Europeans and other foreigners to ease up on the disdain for the people of the US. I want it to be understood that most of these fools here really don't know any better. A lot of things are harder to see from here.


And I'm sorry to dissappoint so many of you that I'm not offing myself. I have no plans to do that, but if I ever do, I'll try to let you all know. :p

What are we supposed to call ourselves? United Statesians? Assholians? Just wondering.
Maybe pet peeve wasn't the right term. It's just a perpetual annoyance that there is no truly descriptive term for us to call ourselves. The fact that you can read about Anti-American South Americans hurts my head.

I am an American (or US-ian, if you prefer) and I just wanted to say I'm sorry. This wasn't my idea. If all you other countries decide to depose our leaders and try them for war crimes, please don't occupy our lands like the Soviets did to East Germany....


Don't worry, We come in Peace! (Ahk, Ahk, Ahk)


Just bend over and take it like Terrans!

Was anyone else expecting a suicide note when they saw 'dear world' ?

I was. Thank God it wasn't.

That's right. In fact, if we want to apologize, then instead we should all go out and vote, and kick the republicans out of power (thank God for our right to vote, it lets us overthrow the government every few years should we wish, and all without any violence or bloodshed)

You really think the democrates are any different? Face it, we're fucked no matter who we vote for. Violence is, sadly, the only option for real change.


And good on the origonal poster!

Hehe. General.. Ahh yes.
As for the OP.. Perhaps America is heading down a dangerious path, perhaps not. I think it's a little early to predict a Nazi like situation just now. Let's just relax a little and see what happens over the next decade or so.
I wonder if anyone said that in 1933?

What are we supposed to call ourselves? United Statesians? Assholians? Just wondering.
Middle-North-Americans?

Was anyone else expecting a suicide note when they saw 'dear world' ?I was expecting a big "screw you!" actually.
Of course that might just be because that's what I'd tell the world..

I wonder if anyone said that in 1933?

They didn't have such history to learn from, as we do.

Middle-North-Americans?

:)

Sometimes non-US-ian Americans are annoyed by the way we refer to ourselves as Americans, ignoring that fact that Canadians, Mexicans, and South Americans are all technically Americans. And actually, I'm bothered by the fact that there is no truely descriptive word for the citizens of the USA. So I suppose that the reason I would listen to such an assinine opinion is because I share it. It's not really that big of a deal though. It's a semantic pet peeve.

We're called Americans because the name of our nation is the United States of America. "United States" is the name of our political entity, much like Germany is the Federal Republic of Germany or Mexico is the United Mexican States. We don't call them Federal Republicans or United Statsians, so it is inaccurate to refer to us as USians.

I was expecting a big "screw you!" actually.
Of course that might just be because that's what I'd tell the world..

Seconded.

Dear world,
I'd like to apologize for our prime minister looking like Harry Potter, and the disappointment that inevitably leads to when actually meeting him and finding out he's not.

:D

However idiotic and bad and insane our leaders may be, they are not Hitler.
*Godwin!* :D

However idiotic and bad and insane our leaders may be, they are not Hitler.

The lack of mustache is a giveaway, isn't it?

However idiotic and bad and insane our leaders may be, they are not Hitler.
The lack of mustache is a giveaway, isn't it?

Well, that and the lack of a plan for (due to this convo, not sure what to call us in the US anymore) to do better. Hitler had intellect (albeit a crazed one, in my opinion)... and a plan... just not a good one, and certainly not one that was good or kind to people outside his vision.

Well, that and the lack of a plan for (due to this convo, not sure what to call us in the US anymore) to do better. Hitler had intellect (albeit a crazed one, in my opinion)... and a plan... just not a good one, and certainly not one that was good or kind to people outside his vision.

Would you call the Project for the New American Century (http://www.newamericancentury.org/)a good plan or kind?

Would you call the Project for the New American Century (http://www.newamericancentury.org/)a good plan or kind?
Certainly not... I call that rather frightening.

I can't think of anything else to even call it other than frightening... absurd, perhaps?

You really think the democrates are any different? Face it, we're fucked no matter who we vote for. Violence is, sadly, the only option for real change.
When did I say we should all vote democrat? there areother parties, just the American peoplea are too dumb to notice.

When did I say we should all vote democrat? there areother parties, just the American peoplea are too dumb to notice.

Aye, I'm right there with you. Sorry for the assumtions.