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My math class is so stupendously boring that one day i was playing with some figures and i came up with this:

Wild adult squirrels have two litters of three pups every summer, and they live for about four years. Given these numbers, a single pair of squirrels could multiply to 63,967 trillion (that's 67 quadrillion) in thirty-three years if they all survived. Here are the figures(dont worry, i'm getting to the point):
Years Squirrels
1 2
2 5
3 20
4 65
5 210
6 690
7 2,271
8 7,470
9 24,576
10 80,871
11 266,136
12 875,820
13 2,882,211
14 9,484,995
15 31,213,950
16 102,721,260
17 338,043,000
18 1,112,457,825
19 3,660,961,521
20 12,047,772,930
21 39,647,735,115
22 130,475,807,340
23 429,379,793,115
24 1,413,035,952,765
25 4,650,127,080,591
26 15,302,994,820,050
27 50,360,268,956,961
28 165,729,435,266,811
29 545,395,135,544,889
30 1,794,828,138,991,460
31 5,906,558,087,096,210
32 19,437,754,333,317,700
33 63,967,252,662,397,500

Surface area of earth(Estimated Average)=510,000,000,000,000 m2(that's meters squared)
Area covered by each squirrel(Surface Area)=.1m x .2m=0.02m2(once again, that's meters squared.
Number of squirrels needed to blanket the Earth= EA/SA =25,5000,000,000,000,000 squirrels

Assuming squirrels float and are immortal, starting witha single pair of squirrels, it would take about 32.5 years to completely blanket the earth in squirrels.:cool:

It's impossible to find a random fact, as any fact I would post would be based on my own thoughts of which fact I should post, rather than a random choice.

It's impossible to find a random fact, as any fact I would post would be based on my own thoughts of which fact I should post, rather than a random choice.
Ah, the squirrels have stumped yet again!!

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands.
besides that much math can hurt you.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands.
besides that much math can hurt you.
Took about 30 minutes, and like i said, EXTREMELY boring math class.

Took about 30 minutes, and like i said, EXTREMELY boring math class.
Next time, would you mind doing lemmings? Lemmings are far superiour to squirrels.

Cockroaches sooooo have the squirrels beat. Consider that a German cockroach can produce between 300-400 offspring in one year (the average cockroach lifetime) and apply that to your mathematic equasion. :eek:

If A+B=C
Then A^2+AB+BC=C^2

I ate spagetti today.

There's a speck of dirt that is almost identicle to the other specks of dirt around it.

Rotovia is a Jew.

If no starlings died, by about the 14th generation (I think), the entire solar system would be full of starlings (instead of pigeons, which seems to be its natural destiny)

+points for whoever names the book that is from

If no starlings died, by about the 14th generation (I think), the entire solar system would be full of starlings (instead of pigeons, which seems to be its natural destiny)

+points for whoever names the book that is from
HHGTTG?

Squirrels are evil. Also, they would die off or get killed by sadistic teenagers.

Squirrels are evil. Also, they would die off or get killed by sadistic teenagers.
I only killed a few...

Cockroaches sooooo have the squirrels beat. Consider that a German cockroach can produce between 300-400 offspring in one year (the average cockroach lifetime) and apply that to your mathematic equasion. :eek:
They don't call it a cockroach for nothin ;)

They don't call it a cockroach for nothin ;)

Oh my, don't you have the dirty mind! :eek:

It's ok. I have one, too.

My math class is so stupendously boring that one day i was playing with some figures and i came up with this:

Wild adult squirrels have two litters of three pups every summer, and they live for about four years. Given these numbers, a single pair of squirrels could multiply to 63,967 trillion (that's 67 quadrillion) in thirty-three years if they all survived. Here are the figures(dont worry, i'm getting to the point):
Years Squirrels
1 2
2 5
3 20



Ok I"m probably gonna sound like an ass or something BUT the math in the table doesn't seem to add up to what you wrote in the paragraph describing how squirrels reproduce. Maybe you should be paying more attention to your math class ;)

Ok I"m probably gonna sound like an ass or something BUT the math in the table doesn't seem to add up to what you wrote in the paragraph describing how squirrels reproduce. Maybe you should be paying more attention to your math class ;)

Maybe some of the squirrels are gay, however this doesn't explain why there aren't eight squirrels at the end of the first summer.

Ok I"m probably gonna sound like an ass or something BUT the math in the table doesn't seem to add up to what you wrote in the paragraph describing how squirrels reproduce. Maybe you should be paying more attention to your math class ;)
yeah the first year we give them only 2 to start out with, but all of the rest of the equations are right. i did mess up the first time and only gave them one litter of three instead of two, so it would take 31.5 years.
I was really bored....and tired...yeah....

;)

I disagree, I think that the calculations on how much force builds up when penguins poop, as presented in "Pressures Produced When Penguins Pooh - Calculations on Avian Defecation" is probably far more random than how many squirels it takes to cover the world.

Get your boss to hire you for 1 cent the first day and double your wages every day for a month. After 30 days you will be making $5,368,709.12

yeah the first year we give them only 2 to start out with, but all of the rest of the equations are right. i did mess up the first time and only gave them one litter of three instead of two, so it would take 31.5 years.
I was really bored....and tired...yeah....

;)

1 2
2 5
3 20
4 65
5 210

First year you gave them one litter of three per breeding pair. Which doesn't fit your original description.

The next year with two breeding pairs you gave them five litters of three each. Which doesn't fit your original description.

The next year with ten breeding pairs you gave fifteen litters of three each (or one and a half litters each). Which doesn't fit your original description.

The next year you gave the thirty two breeding pairs a total of either 145 or 143 young (depending upon when the orginal pair of squirrels die) - this works out as either forty-eight and a third litters or forty-seven and two thirds litters: which means those squirrels that summer produced either 1.510... or 1.489... litters each. Which doesn't fit your original description.

Shouldn't it look summat like this (assuming that the young are perfectly divided between male and female)?

0: 2
1: 2 + 6 = 8
2: 8 + 24 = 32
3: 32 + 96 = 128 (-2 as the original pair die off) = 126
4: 126 + 378 = 504 (-8 as the second generation die off) = 496
5: ...

First year you gave them one litter of three per breeding pair. Which doesn't fit your original description.

The next year with two breeding pairs you gave them five litters of three each. Which doesn't fit your original description.

The next year with ten breeding pairs you gave fifteen litters of three each (or one and a half litters each). Which doesn't fit your original description.

The next year you gave the thirty two breeding pairs a total of either 145 or 143 young (depending upon when the orginal pair of squirrels die) - this works out as either forty-eight and a third litters or forty-seven and two thirds litters: which means those squirrels that summer produced either 1.510... or 1.489... litters each. Which doesn't fit your original description.

Shouldn't it look summat like this (assuming that the young are perfectly divided between male and female)?

0: 2
1: 2 + 6 = 8
2: 8 + 24 = 32
3: 32 + 96 = 128 (-2 as the original pair die off) = 126
4: 126 + 378 = 504 (-8 as the second generation die off) = 496
5: ...
Ok ive figured out where i went wrong
As opposed to giving them two litters of three i gave them one litter of three. (I've just looked it up, and this may not be a problem as the average pair of squirrels has 1.3 litters of 3 pups per summer...dunno why i rounded that to two)But they dont die, as a given of the problem in the first place was squirrel immortality, but the overall principle of the problem works out to be the same.

Maybe i should pay more attention in math class....:D

Watch out for inbreeding when you do those calculations...

http://www.complextrait.org/archive/2002/HTML/Table202.jpg

Hardly random, but still:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee.php

I know, it´s OLD!

Hardly random, but still:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee.php

I know, it´s OLD!
Wow.

This is perhaps the stupidest thing i have ever witnessed.

I love it.

Ok ive figured out where i went wrong
As opposed to giving them two litters of three i gave them one litter of three.

Yeah, for the first generation that is what you did, but you then had a total of five squirrels (or two breeding pairs) produce 15 young the next year, or 7.5 young per breeding pair, which doesn't seem to make any sense.

(I've just looked it up, and this may not be a problem as the average pair of squirrels has 1.3 litters of 3 pups per summer...dunno why i rounded that to two)But they dont die, as a given of the problem in the first place was squirrel immortality, but the overall principle of the problem works out to be the same.

Yeah, sorry about missing that point there: for some reason I started working on the assumption that the squirrels went infertile when they became more than four years old. Stupid mistake about making them die off, but hey, at least I edited my original post which kept talking about rabbits...

Maybe i should pay more attention in math class....:D

If the squirrels are immortal and perpetually fertile then the equation is hideously simple: each year the squirrel population increases fourfold (provided that the beginning population each year is an even number and the new young are equally divided between male and female).

0: 2
1: 8
2: 32
3: 128
4: 512
5: ....

0: 2
1: 8
2: 32
3: 128
4: 512
5: ....
Yeah, im pretty sure i followed those principles, but based on the fact that they have one litter of three per year, and the first year is for the "creation" of the two original. Hence:
1-2
2-5
3-20
and so on....

Yeah, im pretty sure i followed those principles, but based on the fact that they have one litter of three per year, and the first year is for the "creation" of the two original. Hence:
1-2
2-5
3-20
and so on....

How the fuck do two breeding pairs produce a total of fifteen young (or a total of five litters of three each) in year 3? What you appear to have done in year 3 is to have each individual squirrel spontaneously produce a litter each.

If you actually mean to have each breeding pair produce a single litter of three per year, despite what you said in your first description, then it should look like this:

1: 2
2: 5
3: 11 (2 breeding pairs producing 2 litters plus the single non-breeding squirrel)
4: 26 (5 breeding pairs producing 5 litters plus the single non-breeding squirrel)
5: 65 (13 breeding pairs producing 13 litters)
6: 161 (32 breeding pairs producing 32 litters plus the single non-breeding squirrel)
7: ....

How the fuck do two breeding pairs produce a total of fifteen young (or a total of five litters of three each) in year 3? What you appear to have done in year 3 is to have each individual squirrel spontaneously produce a litter each.

If you actually mean to have each breeding pair produce a single litter of three per year, despite what you said in your first description, then it should look like this:

1: 2
2: 5
3: 11 (2 breeding pairs producing 2 litters plus the single non-breeding squirrel)
4: 26 (5 breeding pairs producing 5 litters plus the single non-breeding squirrel)
5: 65 (13 breeding pairs producing 13 litters)
6: 161 (32 breeding pairs producing 32 litters plus the single non-breeding squirrel)
7: ....
OK i have no clue as to the information i provided. I worked it all out two days ago and it worked just fine. I even went over it twice. I must be leaving out some info, and it may be bullshittery, but its still really random bullshittery. I'll check over my notes and see what i left out and get back, or hell i may have just miscalculated. But the principles remain, even going with the same numbers, you only need one male and the rest can be females. Physics isn't the issue( yeah, i know one male squirrel couldn't impregante trillions, yes squirrels do die, and no they dont float) the fact still remains that around 33 years ( even using YOUR figures) the earth would be blanketed in squirrels.:rolleyes:

Cockroaches sooooo have the squirrels beat. Consider that a German cockroach can produce between 300-400 offspring in one year (the average cockroach lifetime) and apply that to your mathematic equasion. :eek:
wow.
apparently i cant even do squirrels right.
but im guessing in the neighborhood of 5 years?

But the principles remain, even going with the same numbers, you only need one male and the rest can be females.


Only if in year 32 the single male squirrel is able to fuck and fertilise a different partner 19,437,754,333,317,699 times per year, or just over 616,367,146 times per second, according to your figures.

Only if in year 32 the single male squirrel is able to fuck and fertilise a different partner 19,437,754,333,317,699 times per year, or just over 616,367,146 times per second, according to your figures.
What can i say, its one talented ass squirrel.