NationStates Jolt Archive


360 Sold Out

Homieville
23-11-2005, 00:25
Well all you game freaks forget the Xbox 360 its sold out nation wide and microsoft is so backed up the next xbox 360 delivery will be in Febuary
Colodia
23-11-2005, 00:26
You do know that Microsoft planned for this, right? Stupid idea but it makes sense that they planned to intentionally have a shortage.
Desperate Measures
23-11-2005, 00:28
Some listings on ebay:

Item Title PayPal Bids Price* Shipping
to USA (edit) Time Left
Featured Items
Microsoft Xbox 360 Game Console _xbox360! FREE Shipping
WITH FREE Priority SHIPPING or Express for $15!!!!!!!!!
39 $2,000.00
Free 2m
Premium Xbox 360 - Game system console IN HAND
Will ship Tuesday November 22 if paid in full
42 $960.00
Calculate 23m
Microsoft Xbox 360 - Game console/ FREE OVER NIGHT
Brand New Still Sealed! FREE OVER NIGHT SHIPPING!!
25 $1,025.00
Free 23m
Microsoft Xbox 360 IN HANDS READY TO SHIP TO WINNER 27 $860.00
$25.00 35m
Lydania
23-11-2005, 00:30
Hardly surprising. I'm just glad that one of my uni buddies won one and got it on Saturday.

Now I never have to play a 360 again. Ha.
Kamsaki
23-11-2005, 00:30
Some listings on ebay:

Item Title PayPal Bids Price* Shipping
to USA (edit) Time Left
Featured Items
Microsoft Xbox 360 Game Console _xbox360! FREE Shipping
WITH FREE Priority SHIPPING or Express for $15!!!!!!!!!
39 $2,000.00
Free 2m
Premium Xbox 360 - Game system console IN HAND
Will ship Tuesday November 22 if paid in full
42 $960.00
Calculate 23m
Microsoft Xbox 360 - Game console/ FREE OVER NIGHT
Brand New Still Sealed! FREE OVER NIGHT SHIPPING!!
25 $1,025.00
Free 23m
Microsoft Xbox 360 IN HANDS READY TO SHIP TO WINNER 27 $860.00
$25.00 35m
@__@

Why the hell didn't I think of this beforehand?!?
Homieville
23-11-2005, 00:30
I know I know Microsoft is tricky...But when you get the 360 get the Advance System 100 dollars more
Homieville
23-11-2005, 00:33
I played the 360 in the EB games store it was on Display the game was NFS most wanted. Graphics are good
Colodia
23-11-2005, 00:43
I know I know Microsoft is tricky...But when you get the 360 get the Advance System 100 dollars more
What do you mean "when"?

I'm getting the PS3.
Pure Metal
23-11-2005, 00:43
didn't realise it was out so soon, heh. me wants one but me got fingers burned with the xbox 1 when i got it for 300 quid and the price dropped a hundered quid like a week later... got a 100 quids worth of free stuff from MS though, but would still rather have kept the money in the first place. gonna wait till the first price drop for a 360 then...
The Soviet Americas
23-11-2005, 00:44
Why do people who write these video game polls always neglect to put in "PC" as an option? You know, that thing that's infinitely better than any console will ever be?
Colodia
23-11-2005, 00:48
Why do people who write these video game polls always neglect to put in "PC" as an option? You know, that thing that's infinitely better than any console will ever be?
Because the game library is so pathetic we want to forget that it can be used to play games.

BTW, about your sig, have you tried it yet and has it worked?
The Soviet Americas
23-11-2005, 00:49
Because the game library is so pathetic we want to forget that it can be used to play games.
Wow. Your ignorance has left me stunned.

Remind me not to argue with console fanboys anymore; I just lose intelligence with each word said.
Colodia
23-11-2005, 00:52
Wow. Your ignorance has left me stunned.

Remind me not to argue with console fanboys anymore; I just lose intelligence with each word said.
Enough about that, did you try out yourself what you want people to do in your sig and how did that work out?

(And I'll be there to remind you to figure out better defenses when arguing with console fanboys) :D
FireAntz
23-11-2005, 00:52
Andherein lies the genuis of Sony.
Nobody could understand why they waited till next spring for their release. They knew the Xbox would sell out quick, and Microsoft would be backlogged till damn near when the PS3 comes out, so all the Xbox cult fans have their systems, and everyone else will see the reviews for it, and mark my words, Sony will have some type of "Media event" around February, and show how much better the PS3 is.

All the game addicts will have already tried the Xbox, and be ready for something else. And it will be the PS3. And it will sell huge! Bookmark my words, thats how it's gonna happen. Sony=Marketing genius
Non-violent Adults
23-11-2005, 00:56
Wow. Your ignorance has left me stunned.

Remind me not to argue with console fanboys anymore; I just lose intelligence with each word said.
Is this really a topic worth flamming over?

I like PC games because I like the type of games that computers do better - FPS, RTS, and anything exceptionally nerdy. But if you like mashing buttons with your thumbs, that's cool with me.

The last console I bought was a Dreamcast.
The Soviet Americas
23-11-2005, 00:59
did you try out yourself what you want people to do in your sig and how did that work out?
Are you crazy? I've read Thompson's responses to particularly civil e-mails, and they are infantile at best. I don't want my inbox flooded with his rhetorical bullshit, nor do I want to get sued by his scum-sucking, bottom-feeding ass. He would invariably find some legal loophole through which he could litigate me into oblivion.
Colodia
23-11-2005, 01:03
Are you crazy? I've read Thompson's responses to particularly civil e-mails, and they are infantile at best. I don't want my inbox flooded with his rhetorical bullshit, nor do I want to get sued by his scum-sucking, bottom-feeding ass. He would invariably find some legal loophole through which he could litigate me into oblivion.
Wait, by contacting the BAR?
DELGRAD
23-11-2005, 01:03
Well all you game freaks forget the Xbox 360 its sold out nation wide and microsoft is so backed up the next xbox 360 delivery will be in Febuary

Microsoft expects 3 million 360s to be sold in the first three months.
My brother got positon 34 out of 37 for the 360 at BestBuy and a guy offered him $300 for his spot. A guy that got his 360 was selling it right there at BestBuy for $1,000.

I think the 360 is the best because they own the Perfect Dark (greatest game ever) title.
Ftagn
23-11-2005, 01:08
Because the game library is so pathetic we want to forget that it can be used to play games.

BTW, about your sig, have you tried it yet and has it worked?

Ahem... All the good games are for the PC. I have never yet found a console game that was worth playing over... say Far Cry.
Yes, Far Cry has now been ported to the consoles, but it's still better when played on a PC.
DELGRAD
23-11-2005, 01:08
You do know that Microsoft planned for this, right? Stupid idea but it makes sense that they planned to intentionally have a shortage.

Why would they intentionaly plan a shortage?
The Soviet Americas
23-11-2005, 01:09
Why would they intentionaly plan a shortage?
You haven't read Jennifer Government, have you?
Colodia
23-11-2005, 01:09
Why would they intentionaly plan a shortage?
Make it look hotter than it is. More people running around crying for it. Looks like a better product.
Ftagn
23-11-2005, 01:10
Are you crazy? I've read Thompson's responses to particularly civil e-mails, and they are infantile at best. I don't want my inbox flooded with his rhetorical bullshit, nor do I want to get sued by his scum-sucking, bottom-feeding ass. He would invariably find some legal loophole through which he could litigate me into oblivion.

Then how do you expect other people to do it? Lead by example.
I've already done it, why haven't you?
Desperate Measures
23-11-2005, 01:13
I had to add this from Ebay:
"Current bid: US $202.50 (Reserve met)
This auction is for PREMIUM GRAPHICS of a xbox 360. The photos include Call of Duty 2, Kameo, Project Gotham Racing 3 and more! Acessories shown include wireless controller, Remote Control and the xbox core system!! This auction is for a photo!" http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-PREMIUM-GRAPHICS_W0QQitemZ8236133757QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

A fucking picture of the xbox...
Ftagn
23-11-2005, 01:21
I had to add this from Ebay:
"Current bid: US $202.50 (Reserve met)
This auction is for PREMIUM GRAPHICS of a xbox 360. The photos include Call of Duty 2, Kameo, Project Gotham Racing 3 and more! Acessories shown include wireless controller, Remote Control and the xbox core system!! This auction is for a photo!" http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-PREMIUM-GRAPHICS_W0QQitemZ8236133757QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

A fucking picture of the xbox...

Wow! A real, live PICTURE of an Xbox! I gotta get me one of those!
Desperate Measures
23-11-2005, 01:34
Wow! A real, live PICTURE of an Xbox! I gotta get me one of those!
I think I'm going to go bake some x-box shaped cookies and put those up for sale.
The Soviet Americas
23-11-2005, 01:35
Then how do you expect other people to do it? Lead by example.
I've already done it, why haven't you?
Actually it helps a lot knowing that people I (sort-of) know have done it.

I'll work on my letter.
The Infinite Dunes
23-11-2005, 01:47
Now you see, I think if you're selling a console it's actually damaging to limit supply too much. In essence your main goal is to capture the market, getting as close to a monopoly as possible, then you squeeze game developers as your platform is by far the most proftable platform even after you've squeezed them. Like how very few companies still make games for Apple Macs any more. And like how Sony squeezed sega out of the market and have almost squeezed nintendo out.

I think Microsoft have acted very stupidly and wasted their early Xmas release. To have sold out before you even get into December is completely wasting the selling power of the holiday. And I'm sure Sony will make full use of the unavailability of the Xbox 360. And nintendo will just hope they have at least a few diehard fans left.
Katganistan
23-11-2005, 01:51
I suggest you guys read Jennifer Government and its commentary on how to make people pay any price for product....


....it IS based on real life marketing strategies.



And oh yes, Microsoft planned this very carefully. You can bet your bottom dollar there is a warehouse somewhere CRAMMED with 360s ready to go in February after parents had been driven insane by their children whining, and the gamers will by then be in a feeding frenzy.
Ilura
23-11-2005, 02:22
Now all we need to do is hope that Microsoft doesn't seek to improve its street cred.
Sel Appa
23-11-2005, 02:37
Traditionalist here. Nintendo...SEGA...Atari...
Tomzilla
23-11-2005, 03:21
Why would they intentionaly plan a shortage?

If this has already been answered, sorry.

They plan a shortage so that there is a much higher demand. Thus, the price will go up, and more people will want to be in the mean time. It can easily produce big profits for the company.
OceanDrive2
23-11-2005, 03:44
I suggest you guys read Jennifer Government and its commentary on how to make people pay any price for product....


....it IS based on real life marketing strategies.



And oh yes, Microsoft planned this very carefully. You can bet your bottom dollar there is a warehouse somewhere CRAMMED with 360s ready to go in February after parents had been driven insane by their children whining, and the gamers will by then be in a feeding frenzy.all true...but its not for February its for December...mark my words...

Only a moron would pay $1000 from a reseller...when you can get these in a couple of weeks for the normal price
OceanDrive2
23-11-2005, 03:52
... Thus, the price will go up, and more people will want to be in the mean time. It can easily produce big profits for the company.Microsoft has no plans to ask more for the BOX...
Console company prices have never ever gone up...they have always gone down...

And the BOX prices will be drastically slashed...just 2 weeks before the PS3 launch.
MicrosoftCorp can afford it...Its do or die time for the XBOX anyways...Uncle Bill does not like loser brands.
Derscon
23-11-2005, 04:13
OceanDrive2, you are correct, but you forgot something...

If I'm not mistaken, MicrosoftCorp intends on releasing HALO 3 when the PS3 comes out. Whether you like it or not, you can't deny it's significance in the console gaming world.
OceanDrive2
23-11-2005, 04:59
OceanDrive2, you are correct, but you forgot something...

If I'm not mistaken, MicrosoftCorp intends on releasing HALO 3 when the PS3 comes out. Whether you like it or not, you can't deny it's significance in the console gaming world.the significance of Halo3 on the gaming world?
It can carry on (his shoulders) the sales of XBOX consoles for about what?

Would you say 2 maybe 3 months?

Halo has pretty big shoulders...but they can last only so long...
Eichen
23-11-2005, 05:11
I was a classic console gamer, and loved to play them. But today's rediculously overcomplicated control pads leave me cold. I don't want to have to feel like I'm learning to type again on an unintuitive interface.

I'm hoping that the Revolution will prove to be a successful return to simplicity, but I have to doubt that it will work as well as it's been advertized.
Non-violent Adults
23-11-2005, 05:26
If this has already been answered, sorry.

They plan a shortage so that there is a much higher demand. Thus, the price will go up, and more people will want to be in the mean time. It can easily produce big profits for the company.
You know, when the PS2 first hit stores there was a shortage. At the time Sony was supposedly spending over $500 per unit and selling them for $300. Over time their costs would go down, and they obviously knew this. For them, it made sense to give infrastucture a chance to develop and lower per unit production costs before they scaled up production. Microsoft may have something like this going on. Although, limiting supply to drive up or maintain prices is an old game. It's a perfectly legitimate strategy IMO, but it's no guarantee at all of profits.

It also seems a much safer bet to initially fall short of expected demand when unveiling a game system to make sure that inventory does not pile up anywhere, which could kill the thing if retailers cut prices to get rid of them or if they cut future orders of the system.

Make too much product = waste.
Make too little product = possibly falling short of maximum profit, which isn't nearly as bad.

And in the game industry, if your system is falling short of expected demand you can expect third party developers to look elsewhere. Many gamers themselves understand this. When the developers don't expect gamers to jump on board and gamers don't see developers supporting the platform, you have a failed system. That is basically what happend to the Dreamcast, which was a very capable system when it was released.

With people paying $1000+ for Xbox 360s (and pictures of Xbox 360s :D HAHAHAHAHA, dumbasses) on ebay right now, it's hard to imagine the system doing anything but become top dog.
Non-violent Adults
23-11-2005, 05:55
I had to add this from Ebay:
"Current bid: US $202.50 (Reserve met)
This auction is for PREMIUM GRAPHICS of a xbox 360. The photos include Call of Duty 2, Kameo, Project Gotham Racing 3 and more! Acessories shown include wireless controller, Remote Control and the xbox core system!! This auction is for a photo!" http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-PREMIUM-GRAPHICS_W0QQitemZ8236133757QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

A fucking picture of the xbox...It sold for $1025
Ilura
23-11-2005, 09:18
It sold for $1025

...

And when, in future, people ask me "when did you lose faith in humanity" I think I finally have an answer for them.
Zero Six Three
23-11-2005, 12:53
It sold for $1025
That man is a absolute genius! That idiot has made my day.
OceanDrive2
23-11-2005, 13:37
That man is a absolute genius! That idiot has made my day.will the genius be able to collect from the idiot...

...or maybe they both work for Bill gates...:D
Mellivorinae
23-11-2005, 14:04
I really really would like a 360.

The marketing strategy of Microsoft is a piece of business genious. Personally i am rather annoyed by the whole thing.

I have heard that the PS3 has had its launch date pushed back. if this is true then it COULD be a reasonable counter to the microsoft ploy. Microsoft cannot keep pushing Halo 3 back. the success of the XBox was defined by Halo. without Halo it WOULD have died. like the Dreamcast.

Similarly the 360 can be BROKEN by a bad choice of release date for Halo 3.

I hate capitalism.
Derscon
23-11-2005, 23:19
I was a classic console gamer, and loved to play them. But today's rediculously overcomplicated control pads leave me cold. I don't want to have to feel like I'm learning to type again on an unintuitive interface.

I'm hoping that the Revolution will prove to be a successful return to simplicity, but I have to doubt that it will work as well as it's been advertized.

Don't bet on it. The thing is pretty much all motion-sensitive. Masterpiece of controller technology, but in some people's eyes, the largest pain in the ass to ever walk the face of the earth. Are you playing a fishing game? Bring the controller stick back and cast away -- just like a real rod. Are you playing a shooting game? Aim and shoot the trigger like a real gun. If you're close enough, butt the alien/terrorist/skateboarder/randombystander/cop/lightpole in the face. It will take a long time to get used to, but I think it's the best thing to happen to video games.

Now if only Nintendo would get some decent games.... (Clancy games, I hope. Fun shooters with realism....sort of)
Derscon
23-11-2005, 23:20
I hate capitalism.

Oh, but why? This kind of thing is exciting to watch and see how it plays out.
Dehny
23-11-2005, 23:21
so long nintendo, youve shot yourself in the foot with your idiotic controller


go and become a software only house like SEGA
Anarchic Christians
23-11-2005, 23:44
so long nintendo, youve shot yourself in the foot with your idiotic controller


go and become a software only house like SEGA


So, any backup for this?

Thought not...

My dad went ape over this controller, he's a lefty so Microsoft and Sony automatically turned him off. I'd say that's a nice start for the controller myself.

On the subject of the Xbox, I know people who sold theirs for over 1000 outside the store, then walked back in and bought another! On days like his, I find a place in my heart for the capitalist system. Sheer comedy value.
Dehny
24-11-2005, 00:06
So, any backup for this?

Thought not...

My dad went ape over this controller, he's a lefty so Microsoft and Sony automatically turned him off. I'd say that's a nice start for the controller myself.

On the subject of the Xbox, I know people who sold theirs for over 1000 outside the store, then walked back in and bought another! On days like his, I find a place in my heart for the capitalist system. Sheer comedy value.


with the nintendo console not yet being released yet only an idiot(heres maybe where you went wrong) would not have realised by my tone this was a prediction
Anarchic Christians
24-11-2005, 00:15
with the nintendo console not yet being released yet only an idiot(heres maybe where you went wrong) would not have realised by my tone this was a prediction

Opinion still requires factual evidence. Given that pretty much every review where people went hands-on with the controller was positive at worst I'd say factual evidence stands in my favour.

Your wording 'go and become a software only house...' was also clearly heavily biased.

If you said

"I think the controller will fail because...

Nintendo should stick to doing software."

It would have sounded rather less like hateboi drivel.
Dehny
24-11-2005, 00:19
Opinion still requires factual evidence. Given that pretty much every review where people went hands-on with the controller was positive at worst.

Your wording 'go and become a software only house...' was also clearly heavily biased.

If you said

"I think the controller will fail because...

Nintendo should stick to doing software."

It would have sounded rather less like hateboi drivel.

ok since people seem to get pissy at predicted statements needing evidence but not religion heres goes


well having used similar, near enough identical technology(university of Glasgow- school of art have developed an almost identical controller) i found it very unrespsonding to certain game types and have found no literature from Nintendo, to allay the fears and concerns raised through my experience with such controllers. i think it will fail as it is unsuited for the type of games which made Nintendo so sucessfull
Derscon
24-11-2005, 00:21
I agree, AC. I think the problems Nintendo is going to face is that:

A) It's a new idea for a controller -- everyone is always suspicious of new and revolutionary ideas

B) Inherent anti-Nintendo bias throughout the gaming community

C) Nintendo's very apparant flops in the past

Because of Nintendo's SNAFUs in the past, a lot of the third-party software companies have abandoned it and left it to dry. Who knows? Maybe this revolutionary controller will bring them back?
Derscon
24-11-2005, 00:23
Well having used similar, near enough identical technology(university of Glasgow- school of art have developed an almost identical controller) i found it very unrespsonding to certain game types and have found no literature from Nintendo, to allay the fears and concerns raised through my experience with such controllers. i think it will fail as it is unsuited for the type of games which made Nintendo so sucessfull

And they took this into accout, although a tad poorly. There are attachments you can get for those kind of games. But I admit, a motion-responsive controller would be a bit awkward for Mario Party 45,093,553,634,567,894 and Super Mario XIII.
Anarchic Christians
24-11-2005, 00:25
I agree, AC. I think the problems Nintendo is going to face is that:

A) It's a new idea for a controller -- everyone is always suspicious of new and revolutionary ideas

B) Inherent anti-Nintendo bias throughout the gaming community

C) Nintendo's very apparant flops in the past

Because of Nintendo's SNAFUs in the past, a lot of the third-party software companies have abandoned it and left it to dry. Who knows? Maybe this revolutionary controller will bring them back?

We can but hope. Personally I feel that it'll be a few big (mostly japanese) companies really backing Nintendo up, Capcom and Konami for example, have no love for Microsoft, Nintendo is also (finally) getting back with Square-Enix so we might see a decent RPG that isn't Skies of Arcadia (much as I love that game, I would like something else to play...)

Nintendo are the only console makers to make a profit in this generation though, I suspect that trend will continue unless they really crash (and there's enough hard-core fans to support them a while even then...)
Anarchic Christians
24-11-2005, 00:28
And they took this into accout, although a tad poorly. There are attachments you can get for those kind of games. But I admit, a motion-responsive controller would be a bit awkward for Mario Party 45,093,553,634,567,894 and Super Mario XIII.

Mario is going to be iffy I have to say, unless

a) Shigsy pulls something equal to Mario 64 in innovation or

b) The nunchucks work really well
Derscon
24-11-2005, 02:29
We can but hope. Personally I feel that it'll be a few big (mostly japanese) companies really backing Nintendo up, Capcom and Konami for example, have no love for Microsoft, Nintendo is also (finally) getting back with Square-Enix so we might see a decent RPG that isn't Skies of Arcadia (much as I love that game, I would like something else to play...)

Nintendo are the only console makers to make a profit in this generation though, I suspect that trend will continue unless they really crash (and there's enough hard-core fans to support them a while even then...)

While my American nationalism tells me that rooting for Nintendo over Microsoft is bad, I must say, yay Nintendo -- Japan definitely owns America when it comes to video games (except maybe the Clancy games by Ubisoft and RedStorm Entertainment, but that's a different story altogether...)

Although...

*throws party for re-marriage of Square-Enix and Nintendo*

Who knows? Maybe there's a Final Fantasy game for the Rev coming? (That's a bit too much of a hope, but what the hell :))
Homieville
25-11-2005, 00:03
What do you mean "when"?

I'm getting the PS3.

IF or When

Dee Di Di!!! Knock on your head
Zolworld
25-11-2005, 00:39
The GPU specs on all 3 are virtually identical (the ps3 has the best processor but sadly that makes little difference in games) so basically they can all play pretty much the same games. the only difference will be which is cheapest and which gets the best exclusive titles. a photo realistic GTA could win it for the ps3 but otherwise microsoft have got a head start and cant really lose. no one can really win either but only nintendo can lose big time. its a shame really.
Alchamania
25-11-2005, 03:02
MicrosoftCorp intends on releasing HALO 3 when the PS3 comes out. Whether you like it or not, you can't deny it's significance in the console gaming world.
I'm reminded of a quote i saw recently.
"Stop comparing everying to Halo, Perfect Dark kicked it's ass years before it was even a story board."

But the point is mute because perfect dark is also on xbox now. Although if they do the same as they did with conkers bad fur day, I'll just give up on rare and stick to their 64 and early GC releases.

On a related note apparently users have been complaining about the XBox 360 crashing while playing games.
I'm going to stick with my usual MS policy - don't buy it until the it's been on the market 2 years. Then MAYBE it'll be stable.

Side note I'm looking forward to motion sensitive controllers on the revolution.
Anarchic Conceptions
25-11-2005, 03:22
I had to add this from Ebay:
"Current bid: US $202.50 (Reserve met)
This auction is for PREMIUM GRAPHICS of a xbox 360. The photos include Call of Duty 2, Kameo, Project Gotham Racing 3 and more! Acessories shown include wireless controller, Remote Control and the xbox core system!! This auction is for a photo!" http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-360-PREMIUM-GRAPHICS_W0QQitemZ8236133757QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

A fucking picture of the xbox...

*Sigh*

Winning bid: US $1,025.00

Though it appear that the buyer got pissy about it. Seems he cannot read explicitly stated descriptions.

The "winner's" member profile. (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=thebrooklynguy&iid=8236133757)

I think my respect for humanity has dropped a bit.

Reminds me a bit of hearing about the guy who sold the box his XBOX came in for shit loads when that first came out.



Only a moron would pay $1000 from a reseller...when you can get these in a couple of weeks for the normal price

Though there appear to be plenty of them.
Sea Monkey
25-11-2005, 03:40
*Official Delegate of the Region of Nintendo*
(Yes you are screwed)
I’m not surprised that Microsoft sold out...they only made 2000 consoles! The bad thing is 20%-30% are defective and don’t work. I personally preorder so that I would have one and wouldn't have to wait in line for days. Mine makes a funny noise when it starts and freezes once in a while. Its the deluxe edition and I have PGR 3. Supposedly it is a faulty power source adapter. Any way Nintendo stands a good chance this generation. The newest annalist project the order to be 360, Rev, PS3. The PS3 is due mainly to high price of console and developers not willing to spend the large sum of money to make games for it. Anyone who doesn’t get what the Rev. could bring to the table is a moron. You are not a gamer if you can not see the potential it has. The argument against it that is the only logical one is that the games will not use this tech to the fullest but you have no way to see the future.
Alchamania
25-11-2005, 04:00
I’m not surprised that Microsoft sold out...they only made 2000 consoles!
That type of stunt supposedly makes people think the console is popular (regardless of whether it is or not.) The N-gage used a similar technique, they claimed some 500,000 units sold in the first week or month. They were counting the stock they shipped to resellers not sales to customers.

The bad thing is 20%-30% are defective and don’t work. I personally preorder so that I would have one and wouldn't have to wait in line for days. Mine makes a funny noise when it starts and freezes once in a while. Its the deluxe edition and I have PGR 3. Supposedly it is a faulty power source adapter.
And this is why you never by a microsoft product in (at least) the first 6 months after it's release. Their spokes man claims it enevidable with a complex electronics. I say they don't bother test properly or they do, but figure their release date and media coverage are more important then a fully functional product, besides then they get to add to publicity by making new versions and "giving away free replacements".

You are not a gamer if you can not see the potential it has.
I completely agree with you on this.
Derscon
25-11-2005, 04:59
I'm reminded of a quote i saw recently.
"Stop comparing everying to Halo, Perfect Dark kicked it's ass years before it was even a story board."

To clarify, while I like HALO, it is by no means my favourite game. However, as I stated, whether you like the game or not, it probably has the biggest hype for any modern video game, whether it deserves it or not (my opinion -- not.)

And unfortunately, I've never played Perfect Dark. :(
Alchamania
25-11-2005, 05:03
To clarify, while I like HALO, it is by no means my favourite game. However, as I stated, whether you like the game or not, it probably has the biggest hype for any modern video game, whether it deserves it or not (my opinion -- not.)

And unfortunately, I've never played Perfect Dark. :(
I'm not contending that... like I said I was reminded of a quote i saw recently.
Derscon
25-11-2005, 05:06
I'm not contending that... like I said I was reminded of a quote i saw recently.

Ah, okay. Nevermind, then. :D
Dubiian
25-11-2005, 05:07
Soon microsoft is going to start framing people for murder so their products seem like they are so "ghetto" that gangs will kill people for them.


True story.
Alchamania
25-11-2005, 05:21
Soon microsoft is going to start framing people for murder so their products seem like they are so "ghetto" that gangs will kill people for them.


True story.
This would be an interesting turn, I believe at the moment they just hide the bodies.
Ravenshrike
25-11-2005, 06:12
I played the 360 in the EB games store it was on Display the game was NFS most wanted. Graphics are good
Graphics are okay, but for the price of the full system and selling my old card, I could buy a card that runs better graphics and more games than the 360. The 360's games will also be selling for $60-$70, which is too much for my taste.
FireAntz
25-11-2005, 06:49
It doesn't look like the reviews are very promising for the 360. (http://news.com.com/2061-11199_3-5960385.html?part=rss&tag=5960385&subj=news)


Here's my opinion. The Xobx has more of a "cult" following than anything. I don't see as many PS2 fans freak out when someone disses it.

I think a major reason the Xbox is so big is the same reason so many people voted for Kerry. Just like the "because it's not Bush" reason, it seems people are buying the Xbox "because it isn't a Playstation."

I think the PS2 has better graphics than the Xbox, but some people just want to be different.

And as for the new Nintendo, I think the major mistake they are making is that they should release it with regular controllers, and make the "remote type" controllers a optional accesory. It seems like a great idea with alot of potential, but it just isn't practical for alot of games that people like to play, like FPS games and racing games.

FYI, I will be buying the PS3, because the stats are better, and to the person who said processor speed doesn't matter, that sounds like something you say when you have a small penis and you say "size doesn't matter"
Alchamania
25-11-2005, 07:53
FYI, I will be buying the PS3, because the stats are better, and to the person who said processor speed doesn't matter, that sounds like something you say when you have a small penis and you say "size doesn't matter"
Actually in a heavy graphics environment the GPU is far more important the the CPU. Although actual differences come down to how the game is coded and designed. Generally a CPU increase of 200% will only improve a graphics heavy applications performace round 2%-50%.