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Battle of the Sexes

Plator
22-11-2005, 04:35
Do you find this to be true?

How to make a woman happy?

It's not difficult. To make a woman happy, a man only needs to be:
1. a friend
2. a companion
3. a lover
4. a brother
5. a father
6. a master
7. a chef
8. an electrician
9. a carpenter
10. a plumber
11. a mechanic
12. a decorator
13. a stylist
14. a sexologist
15. a gynecologist
16. a psychologist
17. a pest exterminator
18. a psychiatrist
19. a healer
20. a good listener
21. an organizer
22. a good father
23. very clean
24. sympathetic
25. athletic
26. warm
27. attentive
28. gallant
29. intelligent
30. funny
31. creative
32. tender
33. strong
34. understanding
35. tolerant
36. prudent
37. ambitious
38. capable
39. courageous
40. determined
41. true
42. dependable
43. passionate

WITHOUT FORGETTING TO:
44. give her compliments regularly
45. love shopping
46. be honest (white lies okay)
47. be very rich
48. not stress her out
49. not look at other girls
50, keep the heat up

AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MUST ALSO:
51. give her lots of attention, but expect little yourself
52. give her lots of time, especially time for herself
53. give her lots of space, never worrying about where she goes

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT:
54. to never forget:

* birthdays
* anniversaries
* arrangements she makes
HOW TO MAKE A MAN HAPPY

1. Feed him
2. Fuck him
3. and Shut the fuck up.
German Nightmare
22-11-2005, 04:39
Just by looking at the length of the list written in blue I hit yes almost instantly.

Not saying I'm not willing to do all that. Just saying.
Smunkeeville
22-11-2005, 04:40
although I don't agree that anyone can actually make anyone else happy, I think that the above post offers some good ways to stay on someone's good side.

(I think it is a little simplistic on the male end of the list, but I will try it out on my hubby tonight and see if it makes him happy)
Plator
22-11-2005, 04:42
Just by looking at the length of the list written in blue I hit yes almost instantly.

Not saying I'm not willing to do all that. Just saying.
Tis the list of the perfect man!!!! ;)
Jey
22-11-2005, 04:44
women. are. selfish. period. and they try to use society to make us look like the bad guys for having penises.
Plator
22-11-2005, 04:52
although I don't agree that anyone can actually make anyone else happy, I think that the above post offers some good ways to stay on someone's good side.

(I think it is a little simplistic on the male end of the list, but I will try it out on my hubby tonight and see if it makes him happy)
In which order?
Smunkeeville
22-11-2005, 04:53
In which order?
he is eating now
Lovely Boys
22-11-2005, 05:15
Well, I wouldn't say that is true, I maybe gay, but this is the feeling I get, what females want:

They want you to listen; you don't necessarily have to come up with a solution, they just like the idea that someone is taking an interest in what is happening in life.

Never argue with a women; gooodness gracious me, why can't straight men get it? never argue; you are always wrong, and she is always right; if she is wrong, she'll acknowledge it in her own little way.

Always taken an interest; correction APPEAR to take an interest in what your lady friend is interested in; you don't have to like, it just go with the flow.

Remember events; she'll see that as you making time for her - the act of selflessness - purchase a PDA, put down EVERY possible important date and alarm the damn thing - and for goodness sake, when you purchase something for them, don't be a bloody cheapskate.


For women:

Don't *ASSUME* that he knows; tell him EXPLICITLY what you want from him, don't say, "well, I gave him subtle hints" - guys don't GET subtle hints, they get things being told straight to them - got a problem, come out with it, to them face rather than being 'subtle'.

If a guy doesn't tell you that he loves you; it doesn't mean he doesn't love you; guys who TRUELY love you will no need to tell you that, they will do things for you - the guy who constantly says, "I love you" is dead wood; he does nothing and expects plesant words to make up for it - dump the guy asap.

Guys have very few pleasures in life; let the poor guy, after a long day at work, enjoy those pleasures, be it watching footy, drinking a can of beer or maybe playing poker once a week with his mates - you have your girly time, he has his blokey time - respect it.

Don't nag like a mother; a man's ego is fragile, use positive re-enforcement; don't say, "that clothing you have on is absolutely terrible" instead state, "what you wore at your company BBQ, I really liked that" and to the guy he'll think, "well, I liked it too, so I'll wear it" and its no swet of his brow; most guys are willing to go with the flow, and its up to you to give him a gentle prod if you want him to go into a particular direction.

I'm sure there are many things people can add to this at a later date.
Zagat
22-11-2005, 05:50
women. are. selfish. period. and they try to use society to make us look like the bad guys for having penises.
You're contradicting yourself. Everyone I see in this thread who is making people with penises look bad, apparently has a penis themselves. Take yourself for instance, looking whiney petty bitter and victimised is not a good look, in fact it looks.......bad!

I keep hearing about these ball-breaking, men-hating hell demon wenches, yet actually finding one in real life appears a somewhat fruitless search.

All the women I know like men....if all the women you know appear to hate men, you want to consider that it's got something to do with the company you keep, or then again maybe it's got something to do with the kind of company you are....like I said, all the women I know like men, even the lesbian women I know like men.

Maybe its not that the women you meet dislike all men, maybe the real issue is they just dont like you...
Grainne Ni Malley
22-11-2005, 06:53
Some of the things I agree with and some of them I don't. There's no in between option.
I don't care what kind of job a guy has as long as he pulls his weight.
I don't care if he has a lot of money as long as he's not a bum.
I don't care if he looks at other women, as a matter of fact I'm usually the one to point them out. Although, sometimes I might smack him for doing so just because I feel like it.
I don't think anybody likes to have a special day forgotten, but I'm not married and I could care less about the anniversary of when we met.
I hate shopping.
I feel it's overbearing when a man gives me too much attention, but a little is nice from time to time.
I do not expect a man to be Mr. Fix-It-All, but I do expect that if he says, "I'll fix it!" he won't break everything in the process of attempting to fix it then leave it worse than it was to begin with.
I don't mind if he has concern for me when I go out without him, but when I'm at a gay bar with my best friend, I expect him not to show up drunk and in a fit of jealousy. Seriously, I'm a woman. Who am I going to get it on with at a gay bar?! Sorry. Flashback.

I do crave sensuality. My sex life has hit an all new low and I am not dead yet.
I do expect understanding, the same as I would give to him.
I do expect him to be a good father because "Dad" is not just a title.

I forgot the rest. That's good enough.
Luporum
22-11-2005, 07:06
I just want a woman who I enjoy being with. simple enough really

Now nit picking on what features you want in a person is just a little greedy imo. If you wrote down everything you want in a person the odds of you finding them are pretty rare, then factor the possibility they're in a relationship already, and then factor in the possibility they might not like you.
Areop-Enap
22-11-2005, 07:26
Not in my experience- I don't need most of those things on that list... be a friend yes, be a partner yes- be a master or a father telling me what I can and can't do and I'll dump ya in a heart beat.

I don't care what my guy does for a living, as long as he's happy doing it. I've been with my first boyfriend going on 10 years now, and there have been times where we've leap frogged who's supporting us. He supported me when I was going after a dream, I've supported him when he was going after one of his. If something falls through, lesson learned, no blame.

I do need the truth, and I mean the truth. I prefer the truth being told nicely, but there are times that I do need to hear something bluntly, like everyone... and vice versa, it's a good thing. And we both complement each other as well.

My guy can look at other girls, I'm actually secure in our relationship- but not go after of course. And I can look at a guy, and he won't get upset. There's a difference though between an appreciative casual glance, and an out and out ogle.

And my guy, while he likes to eat and fuck- would hate it if I were to shut up. We still have great conversations.

Things cool off for a while, then heat back up- we both try not to stress each other out, but if we have to say something that will cause the other stress that needs to be heard, we will.

I guess I just think a relationship should be a pretty equal partnership where both people treat the other the way they would like to be treated... and between my friends and myself, that's what I've been exposed to... even family relations have been like that.
Pennterra
22-11-2005, 07:42
I'm young, so I don't have much experience; however, in that experience, friendly contact with both sexes has led me to one conclusion and one alone: There is no real mental difference between men and women.

Each sex is just as horny as the other. Each sex likes food as much as the other. Each sex shares most of the same hobbies- straight men can like sewing, and straight women can like video games (especially if I have anything to say about it!). Each sex can be just as easy-going or assholish as the other. Each sex can be just as belligerent as the other; differences in methodology mainly involves differences in physical ability.

Each sex needs their lover to be a friend, a companion and a confidant. Each sex wants attention, love, and caring, and each sex will give these in return. Each sex can be just as nagging; each sex can be as forgiving; each sex can be as bitter; each sex can be as lazy; each sex can be as compassionate as the other.

Whatever percieved differences there may be are a result of social biases on both the observed and the observer. In practice, there is no difference in the mind or the heart of man and woman.
Svalbardania
22-11-2005, 07:53
Some of the things I agree with and some of them I don't. There's no in between option.
I don't care what kind of job a guy has as long as he pulls his weight.
I don't care if he has a lot of money as long as he's not a bum.
I don't care if he looks at other women, as a matter of fact I'm usually the one to point them out. Although, sometimes I might smack him for doing so just because I feel like it.
I don't think anybody likes to have a special day forgotten, but I'm not married and I could care less about the anniversary of when we met.
I hate shopping.
I feel it's overbearing when a man gives me too much attention, but a little is nice from time to time.
I do not expect a man to be Mr. Fix-It-All, but I do expect that if he says, "I'll fix it!" he won't break everything in the process of attempting to fix it then leave it worse than it was to begin with.
I don't mind if he has concern for me when I go out without him, but when I'm at a gay bar with my best friend, I expect him not to show up drunk and in a fit of jealousy. Seriously, I'm a woman. Who am I going to get it on with at a gay bar?! Sorry. Flashback.

I do crave sensuality. My sex life has hit an all new low and I am not dead yet.
I do expect understanding, the same as I would give to him.
I do expect him to be a good father because "Dad" is not just a title.

I forgot the rest. That's good enough.

Sounds fair enough
Posi
22-11-2005, 07:56
For women:

Don't *ASSUME* that he knows; tell him EXPLICITLY what you want from him, don't say, "well, I gave him subtle hints" - guys don't GET subtle hints, they get things being told straight to them - got a problem, come out with it, to them face rather than being 'subtle'.
Subtle does not exist to men. Also saying what you don't mean doesn't work on guys. If he asks you "How was your day?" and you say "Fine" when it wasn't, he is going to believe that you were being honest with him and think that you had an OK day. When/if he finds out you really did had a bad day, he is going to be upset that you lied to him.

If a guy doesn't tell you that he loves you; it doesn't mean he doesn't love you; guys who TRUELY love you will no need to tell you that, they will do things for you - the guy who constantly says, "I love you" is dead wood; he does nothing and expects plesant words to make up for it - dump the guy asap.
When a guy says, "I love you" he means "I love you until further notice."
Potaria
22-11-2005, 08:00
What's with this "guys don't know subtelty" bullshit? I'm a guy, and I know when anybody is being subtle, regardless of their sex.

...Unless, of course, this is some sarcasm that's just flying over my head.
Pennterra
22-11-2005, 08:06
Subtle does not exist to men. Also saying what you don't mean doesn't work on guys. If he asks you "How was your day?" and you say "Fine" when it wasn't, he is going to believe that you were being honest with him and think that you had an OK day. When/if he finds out you really did had a bad day, he is going to be upset that you lied to him.

Well, I do fulfill this stereotype- I'm an idiot when it comes to subtlety. However, I don't think this applies to guys only; I'm willing to bet that a fair number of women are just as clueless about subtlety. A better rule of thumb is just to be honest and forthcoming with everyone.

When a guy says, "I love you" he means "I love you until further notice."

Here's an amazing thought: May be he just means, "I love you"? Didn't you just go an a short spiel about how guys don't understand subtlety and double-meanings? If that stereotype is true, then the only conclusion that can be gleaned from this line is that women read too much subtlety and double-meanings into everything. As men do that just as often, let's not make stereotypes like this.
Boonytopia
22-11-2005, 08:29
What's with this "guys don't know subtelty" bullshit? I'm a guy, and I know when anybody is being subtle, regardless of their sex.

...Unless, of course, this is some sarcasm that's just flying over my head.

I'm not too flash with the subtlety. I once got in quite a bit of trouble with my girlfriend over it. We were wandering around the market in Fremantle & had got separated, so she texted me that she was going back to our hotel to have some lunch. I replied back that I was at the pub in the market & was going to stay there & listen to some music for a while. (Un?)fortunately my mobile then went flat. A few hours (& some good few beers) later when I finally arrived back at our hotel I was in deep trouble. Apparantly "I'm going back to the hotel for lunch" is in fact code for "meet me back at the hotel now". I didn't know it, so I pretty much spent the rest of the weekend in the doghouse & I was definitely not welcome in the spa! Sadly, I don't think my subtlety radar has really improved much since.
Potaria
22-11-2005, 08:30
I'm not too flash with the subtlety. I once got in quite a bit of trouble with my girlfriend over it. We were wandering around the market in Fremantle & had got separated, so she texted me that she was going back to our hotel to have some lunch. I replied back that I was at the pub in the market & was going to stay there & listen to some music for a while. (Un?)fortunately my mobile then went flat. A few hours (& some good few beers) later when I finally arrived back at our hotel I was in deep trouble. Apparantly "I'm going back to the hotel for lunch" is in fact code for "meet me back at the hotel now". I didn't know it, so I pretty much spent the rest of the weekend in the doghouse & I was definitely not welcome in the spa! Sadly, I don't think my subtlety radar has really improved much since.

I have to laugh at you for not picking up on that. :p
Cabra West
22-11-2005, 08:38
A friend and a lover, yes. As for the rest, I either don't agree with it or I couldn't care less.
Posi
22-11-2005, 08:43
Well, I do fulfill this stereotype- I'm an idiot when it comes to subtlety. However, I don't think this applies to guys only; I'm willing to bet that a fair number of women are just as clueless about subtlety. A better rule of thumb is just to be honest and forthcoming with everyone.



Here's an amazing thought: May be he just means, "I love you"? Didn't you just go an a short spiel about how guys don't understand subtlety and double-meanings? If that stereotype is true, then the only conclusion that can be gleaned from this line is that women read too much subtlety and double-meanings into everything. As men do that just as often, let's not make stereotypes like this.
I guess haven't been paying attention. ALL STEREOTYPES ARE FALSE. *adjusts tie* I mean we spend all day writing the propaganda, you could at least pay attention.
Boonytopia
22-11-2005, 08:58
I have to laugh at you for not picking up on that. :p

Yeah, I'm pretty foolish when it comes to that sort of stuff. :p
Eutrusca
22-11-2005, 09:07
Do you find this to be true?
No. :)
Eutrusca
22-11-2005, 09:11
What's with this "guys don't know subtelty" bullshit? I'm a guy, and I know when anybody is being subtle, regardless of their sex.
I have always had a major problem with this. Especially as former military, I expect people ( including women! ) to say what they mean and mean what they say. "Hints" do not work with me. If you want something, tell me. If you don't come right out and say it, don't expect me to know it. As a matter of fact, I consider anything less than complete forthrightness to be borderline dishonest.
Grainne Ni Malley
22-11-2005, 09:12
I have always had a major problem with this. Especially as former military, I expect people ( including women! ) to say what they mean and mean what they say. "Hints" do not work with me. If you want something, tell me. If you don't come right out and say it, don't expect me to know it. As a matter of fact, I consider anything less than complete forthrightness to be borderline dishonest.

You couldn't just leave it at "No", could you? :D
Eutrusca
22-11-2005, 09:15
You couldn't just leave it at "No", could you? :D
Uh ... no. :D
Oscurosa
22-11-2005, 09:28
I just have one question:

Where's the chocolate?
Blauschild
22-11-2005, 10:41
I'm young, so I don't have much experience; however, in that experience, friendly contact with both sexes has led me to one conclusion and one alone: There is no real mental difference between men and women.

Each sex is just as horny as the other. Each sex likes food as much as the other. Each sex shares most of the same hobbies- straight men can like sewing, and straight women can like video games (especially if I have anything to say about it!). Each sex can be just as easy-going or assholish as the other. Each sex can be just as belligerent as the other; differences in methodology mainly involves differences in physical ability.

Each sex needs their lover to be a friend, a companion and a confidant. Each sex wants attention, love, and caring, and each sex will give these in return. Each sex can be just as nagging; each sex can be as forgiving; each sex can be as bitter; each sex can be as lazy; each sex can be as compassionate as the other.

Whatever percieved differences there may be are a result of social biases on both the observed and the observer. In practice, there is no difference in the mind or the heart of man and woman.

Practicing for your standup comedy gig? Because the above has to be a joke.
Fanurpelon
22-11-2005, 10:54
Yeah, I'm pretty foolish when it comes to that sort of stuff. :p

Nope. It is the right attitude ;)

I understand such subtleties most of the time, but I also choose to ignore them if there are no mitigating circumstances (fe when people ask for help this way). Served me fine the last several years ... and my girlfried already learned to tell me directly if she wants anything done/answered.
Callisdrun
22-11-2005, 11:26
What's with this "guys don't know subtelty" bullshit? I'm a guy, and I know when anybody is being subtle, regardless of their sex.

...Unless, of course, this is some sarcasm that's just flying over my head.


I don't get subtle hints at all. None of this "I was giving him tons of hints!" crap. Trying to drop hints with me is simply the same as not letting me know. I can tell when my ladyfriend is unhappy, but I can't tell why unless she explicitly lets me know.

However, I disagree with the OP. Why? Because if my lady only fed me and bedded me, and never said anything, it would be a very boring relationship. I love hearing her talk, and going out and doing stuff with her.
Grainne Ni Malley
22-11-2005, 11:29
I'm way past the "subtle hints" game. I've now had the same conversations with my boyfriend about the same issues in our relationship at least seventy times.

This is me. :headbang:

This is him. :confused:
Celestial Kingdom
22-11-2005, 11:34
Tis the list of the perfect man!!!! ;)

Where did you get my curriculum :confused: :D
North Fenris
22-11-2005, 11:39
I don't care if he looks at other women, as a matter of fact I'm usually the one to point them out. Although, sometimes I might smack him for doing so just because I feel like it.
.

Suddenly a lot of my relationships with women, just friend or significant other, have become clearer.
Grainne Ni Malley
22-11-2005, 11:41
Suddenly a lot of my relationships with women, just friend or significant other, have become clearer.

Glad to be of assistance. :)
Ilmater
22-11-2005, 11:58
Alas I am another poor man who doesn't really get subtlety...I danced with just my current girlfriend for an entire evening at a ball (before we went out) and didn't catch on that she liked me until afterwards when her friend told me :rolleyes:

Men really are from Mars and women really are from Venus.
NianNorth
22-11-2005, 14:10
In my experience women want a man to look like a man, think like a woman and act like a woman, except for those times when she wants you to act like a man and think like a man. And she expects you to know exactly which to be and when. Get the last bit right and you've cracked it. And if you do tell me how it's done.
Jjimjja
22-11-2005, 14:12
I've never understood why all the problems.

If they use 'code' and get pissed off at you when you don't understand. Tough shit to them. and explain to them that they are fools for expecting you to understand in the first place.

If they are expecting you to change yourself, outside of the superficial, asked them 2 questions. Why should i? and why are you with me?

Talk, understand each other.
Remember a good defence is a good offence.
If she withholds sex, deal with it never cave in to blackmail of any sort. If you did nothing wrong shrug it of and just get on with things until she's willing to discuss things like an adult. Infuriating to them

when together remember to be loving, understand and silly
Jjimjja
22-11-2005, 14:15
In my experience women want a man to look like a man, think like a woman and act like a woman, except for those times when she wants you to act like a man and think like a man. And she expects you to know exactly which to be and when. Get the last bit right and you've cracked it. And if you do tell me how it's done.

if she expects you to be anything but yourself tell her to sod off
My Dressing Gown
22-11-2005, 14:18
if she expects you to be anything but yourself tell her to sod off


but get a swift BJ before you do
Jjimjja
22-11-2005, 14:20
i've met a few of these women (which do seem to make up a small minority) who want to change you. They want and the 'perfect man'. Which means perfect for them. As in easy. Bollocks to that. You and your significant other should be different. Have different tastes, hobbies, interests, etc... You should argue and there should be confusion!
With time you both learn and grow, and if your right for each other love each other more for it. ITS MEANT TO BE HARD WORK!!! makes it all the better.

Oh and if its love after 2 weeks together, 80/90% chance of not working.
Jjimjja
22-11-2005, 14:23
but get a swift BJ before you do

:p only if you really want to end it.

but at least stand up to her!

NEVER EVER BE A SELFISH LOVER. worst things any guy could do
Pennterra
23-11-2005, 02:04
Practicing for your standup comedy gig? Because the above has to be a joke.

Such a thoughtful and informative comment...

How am I wrong? Try giving me a reasoned argument, rather than just a rude line. I think that each sex is really the same, and stereotypes of either sex apply to a tiny, tiny proportion of the population. How am I wrong?
Lovely Boys
23-11-2005, 06:20
Here's an amazing thought: May be he just means, "I love you"? Didn't you just go an a short spiel about how guys don't understand subtlety and double-meanings? If that stereotype is true, then the only conclusion that can be gleaned from this line is that women read too much subtlety and double-meanings into everything. As men do that just as often, let's not make stereotypes like this.

No; men demonstrate through action; the assume that the wife already KNOWS that he loves her - why the hell else would he marry her, but he says, "well, I have to PROVE I love her", so he does things for her; helps around the house, cuddles, kisses etc.

A guy who tells you that he loves you and does nothing, is a nothing; simple as that.
Empryia
23-11-2005, 06:26
Women have too many needs. And too often, those needs interfere with the needs of other women.

Which is why men have ruled the world for so long.

Remember, who cast us from Paradise? Eve :headbang:

Who launched a 1000 ships to go die in Troy? Helen :eek:

Who is Ares, the god of unbridled war and hatred, born immaculately from? Hera :mp5:

Who spawned George W. Bush? His mother. :eek:

Yep, I can blame all the problems of the world on women. :rolleyes:

(joke... mostly...)
Megaloria
23-11-2005, 06:28
:p only if you really want to end it.

but at least stand up to her!

NEVER EVER BE A SELFISH LOVER. worst things any guy could do

Though it might seem good at the time.
Grainne Ni Malley
23-11-2005, 07:11
Women have too many needs. And too often, those needs interfere with the needs of other women.
Which is why men have ruled the world for so long.
Remember, who cast us from Paradise? Eve :headbang:
Who went along with it as if he didn't have a mind of his own? Adam ;)
Who launched a 1000 ships to go die in Troy? Helen :eek:
Who got their panties all up in a bunch and decided to have a pissing contest? Paris and Menelaus:D
Who is Ares, the god of unbridled war and hatred, born immaculately from? Hera :mp5:
Who is also the son of Hera and completely opposite from Ares? Hephaestus :cool:
Who spawned George W. Bush? His mother. :eek:
Who knocked up George W. Bush's mother? His father.:fluffle:
Yep, I can blame all the problems of the world on women. :rolleyes:

(joke... mostly...)

Don't try to act like women have caused the world's problems all on their own. :p
Eruantalon
23-11-2005, 23:19
I'm young, so I don't have much experience; however, in that experience, friendly contact with both sexes has led me to one conclusion and one alone: There is no real mental difference between men and women.

Each sex is just as horny as the other. Each sex likes food as much as the other. Each sex shares most of the same hobbies- straight men can like sewing, and straight women can like video games (especially if I have anything to say about it!). Each sex can be just as easy-going or assholish as the other. Each sex can be just as belligerent as the other; differences in methodology mainly involves differences in physical ability.

Each sex needs their lover to be a friend, a companion and a confidant. Each sex wants attention, love, and caring, and each sex will give these in return. Each sex can be just as nagging; each sex can be as forgiving; each sex can be as bitter; each sex can be as lazy; each sex can be as compassionate as the other.

Whatever percieved differences there may be are a result of social biases on both the observed and the observer. In practice, there is no difference in the mind or the heart of man and woman.
Finally, someone is speaking the truth!
Glitziness
23-11-2005, 23:32
Yup. Because all women are the same and want exactly the same things. And all men are the same and want exactly the same things :rolleyes:

If you want to have a relationship work with someone, get to know them. Find out what they want in someone. Treat them as a person, not just a member of a certain sex.
PersonalHappiness
23-11-2005, 23:38
Don't *ASSUME* that he knows; tell him EXPLICITLY what you want from him, don't say, "well, I gave him subtle hints" - guys don't GET subtle hints, they get things being told straight to them - got a problem, come out with it, to them face rather than being 'subtle'.

don't say, "that clothing you have on is absolutely terrible" instead state, "what you wore at your company BBQ, I really liked that"



You're contradicting yourself! Shall we tell him explicitly what we want or tell him in a subtle way that we dislike his clothes? :confused:
German Nightmare
24-11-2005, 01:49
I'm not too flash with the subtlety. I once got in quite a bit of trouble with my girlfriend over it. We were wandering around the market in Fremantle & had got separated, so she texted me that she was going back to our hotel to have some lunch. I replied back that I was at the pub in the market & was going to stay there & listen to some music for a while. (Un?)fortunately my mobile then went flat. A few hours (& some good few beers) later when I finally arrived back at our hotel I was in deep trouble. Apparantly "I'm going back to the hotel for lunch" is in fact code for "meet me back at the hotel now". I didn't know it, so I pretty much spent the rest of the weekend in the doghouse & I was definitely not welcome in the spa! Sadly, I don't think my subtlety radar has really improved much since.
Man, that could've been so me. I'd have enjoyed my beers :D
OceanDrive2
24-11-2005, 02:35
he is eating nowat what time do you expect to hit second base? :D

and ...do you have a web cam? :fluffle:
Sdaeriji
24-11-2005, 03:22
Maybe its not that the women you meet dislike all men, maybe the real issue is they just dont like you...

"The only consistent feature in all your dysfunctional relationships is you." :D
Lovely Boys
24-11-2005, 10:11
You're contradicting yourself! Shall we tell him explicitly what we want or tell him in a subtle way that we dislike his clothes? :confused:

No, its called poisitive re-enforcement, the same sort of thing one does to encourage good behaviour in children.

When you correct something, you don't talk about what they did wrong, you praise what they did right - and I already covered the issue of male ego's - they're fragile.
Nakatokia
24-11-2005, 13:15
I'm young, so I don't have much experience; however, in that experience, friendly contact with both sexes has led me to one conclusion and one alone: There is no real mental difference between men and women.

Each sex is just as horny as the other. Each sex likes food as much as the other. Each sex shares most of the same hobbies- straight men can like sewing, and straight women can like video games (especially if I have anything to say about it!). Each sex can be just as easy-going or assholish as the other. Each sex can be just as belligerent as the other; differences in methodology mainly involves differences in physical ability.

Each sex needs their lover to be a friend, a companion and a confidant. Each sex wants attention, love, and caring, and each sex will give these in return. Each sex can be just as nagging; each sex can be as forgiving; each sex can be as bitter; each sex can be as lazy; each sex can be as compassionate as the other.

Whatever percieved differences there may be are a result of social biases on both the observed and the observer. In practice, there is no difference in the mind or the heart of man and woman.

Yeah, it shows that you're young and inexperienced. That's pretty much rubbish.
Smunkeeville
24-11-2005, 15:09
at what time do you expect to hit second base? :D

and ...do you have a web cam? :fluffle:
actually we have already finished (and about 3 more times since then :eek: )


anyway, I fed him (Chicken Fried Steak) had my way with him( it's sorta fun to initiate) and then I shut up.


He says " you sure are quiet tonight"
I said "yep"
He said "that's nice :D"

and then he went to sleep, he woke up the next day in a really good mood and still is. :D

Turns out this is much better for me than it is for him, he seems to really like me again:D
OceanDrive2
24-11-2005, 15:56
actually we have already finished (and about 3 more times since then :eek: )


anyway, I fed him (Chicken Fried Steak) had my way with him( it's sorta fun to initiate) and then I shut up.


He says " you sure are quiet tonight"
I said "yep"
He said "that's nice :D"

and then he went to sleep, he woke up the next day in a really good mood and still is. :D

Turns out this is much better for me than it is for him, he seems to really like me again:DAll his base are belong to you now....Happy thanks giving .
Pennterra
24-11-2005, 22:14
Yeah, it shows that you're young and inexperienced. That's pretty much rubbish.

How so? Aye, I don't have much experience; however, is what experience I have to be considered invalid in the face of your prejudices?
Jjimjja
26-11-2005, 14:42
No, its called poisitive re-enforcement, the same sort of thing one does to encourage good behaviour in children.

When you correct something, you don't talk about what they did wrong, you praise what they did right - and I already covered the issue of male ego's - they're fragile.

so manipulation.;)
Liskeinland
26-11-2005, 14:45
Do you find this to be true?

How to make a woman happy? We have to make them happy now? What happened to drop sprogs, get dinner, shut up?
Smunkeeville
26-11-2005, 16:11
so manipulation.;)
not really.


Imo, you should always be upfront, and tell a man the truth. (if you are willing to deal with the concequences, and if you aren't then just don't say anything)


If I have learned anything at all from being married, it's that men don't like to be lied to, and they esp don't like games, or being treated like children.

If he does something that annoys you, then just tell him. If you don't like his clothes, then you need to ask yourself why, if it is a good reason, then sit down and talk with him, if it isn't then get over it.


(and don't expect him to just change, because he does something that annoys you, he doesn't have to, and if you make it a situation where he feels like he has to, then he will either run or rebel.)
Nakatokia
26-11-2005, 19:06
How so? Aye, I don't have much experience; however, is what experience I have to be considered invalid in the face of your prejudices?

How so you say? Its rubbish because its almost completely untrue. And no you dont have to have experience to be taken seriously. I just thought the reason your post was crap in this case was beacause you were inexperienced.
Pennterra
26-11-2005, 22:43
How so you say? Its rubbish because its almost completely untrue. And no you dont have to have experience to be taken seriously. I just thought the reason your post was crap in this case was beacause you were inexperienced.

HOW is it untrue? What are the facts? What did I get incorrect? What are the inherent differences in the minds of men and women? You can't just say "you're wrong," stick your tongue out, and walk away- tell me how I'm wrong!
Jjimjja
27-11-2005, 14:20
not really.


Imo, you should always be upfront, and tell a man the truth. (if you are willing to deal with the concequences, and if you aren't then just don't say anything)


If I have learned anything at all from being married, it's that men don't like to be lied to, and they esp don't like games, or being treated like children.

If he does something that annoys you, then just tell him. If you don't like his clothes, then you need to ask yourself why, if it is a good reason, then sit down and talk with him, if it isn't then get over it.


(and don't expect him to just change, because he does something that annoys you, he doesn't have to, and if you make it a situation where he feels like he has to, then he will either run or rebel.)

oh of course upfront is best
Smunkeeville
27-11-2005, 14:23
oh of course upfront is best
in my own experience it's the only way to go.
Kyleslavia
27-11-2005, 14:55
Yes, the longer it's kept the worse a situation gets. It's best to be upfront an honest.