NationStates Jolt Archive


The Political Correctness Scale

Bolol
21-11-2005, 19:15
Political correctness can be a good thing. It can allow for civil discussion and feedback. Great for diplomacy. On the other hand it can be a tad annoying, like when Al Sharpton comes down to kick your ass whenever you say the word "black".

I give you the "Political Correctness Scale". Where do YOU rate?

Rated 1-5: 5 Being most PC, 1 being least.
Liskeinland
21-11-2005, 19:17
Married women really would be better off staying at home and looking after the children…:) see?
Smunkeeville
21-11-2005, 19:21
Married women really would be better off staying at home and looking after the children…:) see?
that's actually true. but I have a job interview in an hour anyway.
Righteous Munchee-Love
21-11-2005, 19:25
I never quite understood the concept of intrinsicly offensive words.
So I use them all.
To the fullest fuckin extent, if necessary, altough admittedly often some finely tuned eloquencies do the job at least twice as good. Or, as Calvin put it, "A good insult is one that makes you wake up at three o´clock in the night and say 'That´s what the bastard meant!'".
Twelve CEOs
21-11-2005, 19:28
I never quite understood the concept of intrinsicly offensive words.
So I use them all.
To the fullest fuckin extent, if necessary, altough admittedly often some finely tuned eloquencies do the job at least twice as good. Or, as Calvin put it, "A good insult is one that makes you wake up at three o´clock in the night and say 'That´s what the bastard meant!'".
:D
Liskeinland
21-11-2005, 19:34
that's actually true. but I have a job interview in an hour anyway. But whichever way you look at it, it's not politically correct.:)
Smunkeeville
21-11-2005, 19:36
I never quite understood the concept of intrinsicly offensive words.
So I use them all.
To the fullest fuckin extent, if necessary, altough admittedly often some finely tuned eloquencies do the job at least twice as good. Or, as Calvin put it, "A good insult is one that makes you wake up at three o´clock in the night and say 'That´s what the bastard meant!'".
I try to explain to my kids that words aren't "bad" but the feeling behind them may be less than desirable.

For example, if I stub my toe and say "son of a monkeywrench worker" that is the same feeling as if I were to say "son of a bitch" and therefor still wrong.

I get mad at the "anti-cussing" people who say that when you stub your toe you should say "praise God" because we all know they aren't thinking about praising anyone, they are mad, and then it makes me mad that they bring God into thier petty anger about thier toe.
Smunkeeville
21-11-2005, 19:36
But whichever way you look at it, it's not politically correct.:)
of course it isn't and in most cases it isn't "real life" correct either
Nadkor
21-11-2005, 19:39
Probably level 2, although I have no idea who that guy is.
Bolol
21-11-2005, 19:42
Probably level 2, although I have no idea who that guy is.

A very politically incorrect comedian. Nevertheless he has great comedic timing.
Great Andistan
21-11-2005, 19:43
Well, in England we have a TERRIBLE PC problem, santa isn't allowed, it might offend people, you can't say merry christmas, u have to say festive something, just incase a muslim walks past finds it an insult to his religion so bombs somewhere. It's ridiculous, and people of other religions have even spoke out saying, we don't care, but still the government don't care, PC everything!!!:headbang:

well thats my rant over...
Bolol
21-11-2005, 19:46
Well, in England we have a TERRIBLE PC problem, santa isn't allowed, i might offend people, you can't say merry christmas, u have to say festive something, just incase a muslim walks past finds it an insult to his religion so bombs somewhere. It's ridiculous, and people of other religions have even spoke out saying, we don't care, but still the government don't care, PC everything!!!

well thats my rant over

That DOES sound like a pile of shit...

For the love of god! How can anyone find a fat, jolly dude who gives out PRESENTS offensive?!
Great Andistan
21-11-2005, 19:48
it is trust me... But i still say merry christmas and called people black, along with my coffee.
Banduria
21-11-2005, 19:48
Political correctness? What's that?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
21-11-2005, 19:49
For the love of god! How can anyone find a fat, jolly dude who gives out PRESENTS offensive?!
Because he doesn't give present's to the bad children. What kind of monster do you have to be not to reward bad people?
Great Andistan
21-11-2005, 19:50
Because he doesn't give present's to the bad children. What kind of monster do you have to be not to reward bad people?
People hu commit mass murder still deserve that train set they wanted!
Bolol
21-11-2005, 19:50
Political correctness? What's that?

If you do not know then you have been spared a great misery.
Branin
21-11-2005, 19:50
Poltical corectness is overrated, mostly because it just gives me that many more oppurtunities to stick my foot in my mouth.
Banduria
21-11-2005, 19:53
If you do not know then you have been spared a great misery.
No, I know, just I'm not very politically correct...
Bolol
21-11-2005, 19:55
No, I know, just I'm not very politically correct...

Oh! Haha...Good word play.
Anarchic Conceptions
21-11-2005, 20:43
Well, in England we have a TERRIBLE PC problem, santa isn't allowed, it might offend people, you can't say merry christmas, u have to say festive something, just incase a muslim walks past finds it an insult to his religion so bombs somewhere. It's ridiculous, and people of other religions have even spoke out saying, we don't care, but still the government don't care, PC everything!!!:headbang:

well thats my rant over...

Yeah. That's exactly what's like :rolleyes: .

It's a wonder the Sun hasn't been banned.
Liskeinland
21-11-2005, 20:46
Yeah. That's exactly what's like :rolleyes: .

It's a wonder the Sun hasn't been banned. If only.
Dishonorable Scum
21-11-2005, 20:48
I prefer to call a spade a spade. Sometimes I'll come right out and call it a shovel. So sue me.

:p
The Parkus Empire
21-11-2005, 20:52
Married women really would be better off staying at home and looking after the children…:) see?
Welcome to the "this politicaly-correct stuff is bull" club!
The Parkus Empire
21-11-2005, 20:59
Political correctness? What's that?
Are you joking? Not to make fun of you, but I don't want to look like an idiot explaining it to someone who already knows. But here it is anyway: PC is the ban on offensive talk, like racial slurs, swearing, and poking-fun at a religion.
Liskeinland
21-11-2005, 21:00
Welcome to the "this politicaly-correct stuff is bull" club! Lool. Our politics teacher told us that a guy was threatened with being thrown out of the students' union for making a gay joke… I'm not going to survive long!
Anarchic Conceptions
21-11-2005, 21:10
I prefer to call a spade a spade. Sometimes I'll come right out and call it a shovel. So sue me.

:p

Lets not mince our words. Just call a spade a n****r.
Super-power
21-11-2005, 21:33
Political correctness can be a good thing? Ahahahah!
It's nothing but a sinister form of thought control :sniper:

poking-fun at a religion.
Well it's Christianity that gets poked fun at; the double-standard is that all the other religions can't be made fun of. :mad:
Sonaj
21-11-2005, 21:37
When me and my sisters boyfriend were walking through urban Amsterdam, he kept saying "I see black people!". We got more than a few looks then :D

In my community it's really odd, we're pretty much all PC, but there are no immigrants here! Everyone's a quiet, swedish protestant except for the finnish Roma's, and all five of them have been arrested for shoplifting and other various minor crimes. I am also usually not too friendly at ANYONE who shouts "Fucking swede bastard!" at me.
Saladador
21-11-2005, 21:57
Political correctness is why we enjoy the rights we enjoy. It would be horrible if everytime a neo-nazi decided to open his big mouth and tell us that the holocaust was a Jewish myth or something equally racist that we would all have to stop and say, "Well, maybe..." I oppose banning such ideas (wags finger at Europe) but political correctness is just individuals deciding that such ideas aren't even worth considering. Does it go too far sometimes? You bet, but then it is up to you to use the power you have to change it; to break those barriers and prejudices with your wit and vivacity.
Super-power
21-11-2005, 22:01
Political correctness is why we enjoy the rights we enjoy
Sorry but that statement caused a major spike on my BS-o-meter
Khodros
21-11-2005, 22:09
I have a vengeful hatred of feminism. Where does that place me?
The Cat-Tribe
21-11-2005, 22:13
I have a vengeful hatred of feminism. Where does that place me?

In the sad and ignorant line.
[NS]Olara
21-11-2005, 22:28
Dave Chappelle does not make me laugh. Oh, I mean, race comedy never gets old.
PersonalHappiness
21-11-2005, 22:29
Is there any black person out there who would be seriously offended if I use the word "black" to describe his ethnicity? :confused:
The Atlantian islands
21-11-2005, 22:34
Well, in England we have a TERRIBLE PC problem, santa isn't allowed, it might offend people, you can't say merry christmas, u have to say festive something, just incase a muslim walks past finds it an insult to his religion so bombs somewhere. It's ridiculous, and people of other religions have even spoke out saying, we don't care, but still the government don't care, PC everything!!!:headbang:

well thats my rant over...

I find that insulting and disgusting. I am SO sorry that your country has become like that, and I pray to God that mein does not. I think that is the biggest load of shit, and PC has to be stopped before it literally takes over. Blame the liberals, I know I do. **Burns down Berkely**
[NS]Olara
21-11-2005, 22:36
**Burns down Berkely**
The irony is delicious.:D
The Atlantian islands
21-11-2005, 22:39
Is there any black person out there who would be seriously offended if I use the word "black" to describe his ethnicity? :confused:

Jesse-fu**ing-Jackson......:sniper: No love for that "man".
Eichen
21-11-2005, 22:39
PC is for racists and homophobes who wish to hide their true feelings behind a veil of saccharine. It's also a serious blockade to honest, open discussion.
Fuck PC.
Grainne Ni Malley
21-11-2005, 22:40
There. I voted. Now I'm off to view some Vertically Challenged Persons Adult Film.
Ifreann
21-11-2005, 22:41
That DOES sound like a pile of shit...

For the love of god! How can anyone find a fat, jolly dude who gives out PRESENTS offensive?!

A fat jolly dudes that gives kids presents when they sit on his lap and tel him what they want.
[NS]Minuta
21-11-2005, 22:44
I think political correctness is a good thing, but it isnt needed. If somebody didnt come along and say some words were "bad" or "offensive", we wouldn't have swearwords. They were perfectly meaningful words.

Political correctness is the same. But I do respect it. It has definetly gone too far though, apparently "brainstorm" is un PC! I mean, comon, please...
PersonalHappiness
21-11-2005, 22:47
A fat jolly dudes that gives kids presents when they sit on his lap and tel him what they want.

A fat jolly old dude climbing in my house at night. :eek:
Ifreann
21-11-2005, 22:48
Minuta']I think political correctness is a good thing, but it isnt needed. If somebody didnt come along and say some words were "bad" or "offensive", we wouldn't have swearwords. They were perfectly meaningful words.

Political correctness is the same. But I do respect it. It has definetly gone too far though, apparently "brainstorm" is un PC! I mean, comon, please...

Brainstorm?
whats politically incorrect about that?
does it offend the long lost mongolian druids who worship the mighty storms coming from a mountain called brain?
[NS]Olara
21-11-2005, 22:48
A fat jolly dudes that gives kids presents when they sit on his lap and tel him what they want.
Speaking of which, has anyone seen that McDonald's commercial with the guy who puts his change in a coffee can? The song in the background is some woman saying "Dámelo, papi." I laughed the first time I heard it. Then I had to wonder if they would have used it if more people knew what it meant. Hmm...maybe I'm more PC than I thought. :p
Grainne Ni Malley
21-11-2005, 22:49
A fat jolly dudes that gives kids presents when they sit on his lap and tel him what they want.

Don't foget a fat jolly dude who breaks into the house at an unreasonable hour of the night to litter the house with the world's most annoying toys ever which will, thankfully, be abandoned after three hours once the children find a neat invention called the box.
Khodros
21-11-2005, 22:56
In the sad and ignorant line.

Be not quick to judge. You do not know my motives.
The Atlantian islands
21-11-2005, 23:04
Be not quick to judge. You do not know my motives.

Lets here em, big man.
The Infinite Dunes
21-11-2005, 23:12
PC? I love it. Without Political Correctness I'd have one less tool to make things I say funny. ;-; I love the word raghead or towelhead, it's a lesser used word, but the reaction it gets from people is just simply wonderful.

And about it being a good thing. If you can't figure out how to be courteous and respectful without a set of 'official' rules then you probably dont' understand the terms and as such your comments are neither courteous or respectful, but in my view insulting.

Oh, and brainstorm is unPC because of its references to epilepsy or something.

And on one last point, I completely agree with the what another person said that it is the feeling behind a word that makes it wrong. I mean I affectionately refer to one of my friends as a yid or hooknose (and I know she doesn't mind as she's explicitly said she doesn't mind).
The Atlantian islands
21-11-2005, 23:13
PC? I love it. Without Political Correctness I'd have one less tool to make things I say funny. ;-; I love the word raghead or towelhead, it's a lesser used word, but the reaction it gets from people is just simply wonderful.

And about it being a good thing. If you can't figure out how to be courteous and respectful without a set of 'official' rules then you probably dont' understand the terms and as such your comments are neither courteous or respectful, but in my view insulting.

Oh, and brainstorm is unPC because of its references to epilepsy or something.

And on one last point, I completely agree with the what another person said that it is the feeling behind a word that makes it wrong. I mean I affectionately refer to one of my friends as a yid or hooknose (and I know she doesn't mind as she's explicitly said she doesn't mind).

Lol, I'm guessing thats a Jew?
The Infinite Dunes
21-11-2005, 23:17
Lol, I'm guessing thats a Jew?
Woah! You're on the ball tonight.

Hooknose <3
Jard-Sur-Mer
21-11-2005, 23:25
Well, in England we have a TERRIBLE PC problem, santa isn't allowed, it might offend people, you can't say merry christmas, u have to say festive something, just incase a muslim walks past finds it an insult to his religion so bombs somewhere. It's ridiculous, and people of other religions have even spoke out saying, we don't care, but still the government don't care, PC everything!!!:headbang:

well thats my rant over...

That is soo true. It has gone too far in England. A council in England has banned the word Christmas and replaced it with "The Festivity of Light" just in case it offends someone. What about the Christians???? Would a white guy go changing the name of a Black guys religion??? Hell No... you'd be blown up!!!
Vaginesia
21-11-2005, 23:37
Political correctness has gone CRAZY! Come on, what the hell is positive discriminaion? Its BUILLSHIT thats what. Persecuting the majority is no better than persecuting the minority. During the last world cup the government told the public not to put up english flags because they were offensive, 'we must integrate foreigners into society'. I bet if someone put a big Iranian flag on the side of a building the local authorities wouldnt bater an eyelid. Well bollocks to them, if a want to support my country i will!


And a women's place IS in the kitchen- why do you with they have smaller feet? - it's so they can get closer to the sink!
Anarchic Conceptions
21-11-2005, 23:38
That is soo true. It has gone too far in England. A council in England has banned the word Christmas and replaced it with "The Festivity of Light" just in case it offends someone. What about the Christians???? Would a white guy go changing the name of a Black guys religion??? Hell No... you'd be blown up!!!

Proof?

Or is that too much to ask...
[NS]Olara
21-11-2005, 23:41
Proof?

Or is that too much to ask...
Why bother with things like links when you can bold your entire post? Honestly.
Anarchic Conceptions
21-11-2005, 23:45
Political correctness has gone CRAZY! Come on, what the hell is positive discriminaion?

The opposite of negative discrimination. Obviously.

Persecuting the majority is no better than persecuting the minority.

How's the majority being persecuted?

I always thought I was part of the "majority," white, male, straight. I'd hate to be left out.

During the last world cup the government told the public not to put up english flags because they were offensive,

Yet I saw a great many. Very curious.

You sure you are not spreading BS?

'we must integrate foreigners into society'.

Are you suggesting it is better to keep them marginalised and alienated?

I bet if someone put a big Iranian flag on the side of a building the local authorities wouldnt bater an eyelid.

And every St. George's day, national sports matches etc. I see (literally) hundreds of George crosses. Do the local authorities bat an eyelide? Nope.

For that matter, does anyone bat an eyelid? Nope. Not even Mr. Khan the radical down the road.

Well bollocks to them, if a want to support my country i will!

Because we all know flying a bit of fabric helps keep the barbarians at the gate and wards off economic decay now don't we.

And a women's place IS in the kitchen- why do you with they have smaller feet? - it's so they can get closer to the sink!

The Old ones are the best.

What do you do when the dishwasher is broke?

Kick the bitch

I could go on all day.
Vaginesia
21-11-2005, 23:53
The opposite of negative discrimination. Obviously.



How's the majority being persecuted?

I always thought I was part of the "majority," white, male, straight. I'd hate to be left out.



Yet I saw a great many. Very curious.

You sure you are not spreading BS?



Are you suggesting it is better to keep them marginalised and alienated?



And every St. George's day, national sports matches etc. I see (literally) hundreds of George crosses. Do the local authorities bat an eyelide? Nope.



Because we all know flying a bit of fabric helps keep the barbarians at the gate and wards off economic decay now don't we.



The Old ones are the best.

What do you do when the dishwasher is broke?

Kick the bitch

I could go on all day.


Are you trying to be clever? You answered a rhetorical question you spastic. And i never said that there weren't a lot of flags out, the government just discouraged it, that doesnt mean anyone listened to them. And what was that last bit about? Won't keep barbarians away? What the fuck are you smoking?
Chris on High
21-11-2005, 23:58
The opposite of negative discrimination. Obviously.

No, its fraudulent bilge.

How's the majority being persecuted?

I always thought I was part of the "majority," white, male, straight. I'd hate to be left out.

Ooh, try my being at least four times as qulaified as blood mbangabanga, yet being refused employment because he is ethnic. I am actually discriminated against when I, the white, caucasian, thoroughly english fellow, compete against one who should not be here




Yet I saw a great many. Very curious.

You sure you are not spreading BS?

The government (left wing, overly modern, disrespectful, lying morons every one:mad: ), do indeed oppose such patriotism, we simply flout such multi-cultural bilge




Are you suggesting it is better to keep them marginalised and alienated?

Well, its one step towards deported.



And every St. George's day, national sports matches etc. I see (literally) hundreds of George crosses. Do the local authorities bat an eyelide? Nope.

For that matter, does anyone bat an eyelid? Nope. Not even Mr. Khan the radical down the road.

Excuse me, I have been accosted by such a fellow for singing, somewhat drunkenly, "Engerland", after the Argentina match, since it offends Muslims. And yet he claims to be English... hooray for immigration



Because we all know flying a bit of fabric helps keep the barbarians at the gate and wards off economic decay now don't we.

Its a damnsight more agreable than welcoming the with open arms, and abandoning our due rights to them.



The Old ones are the best.

What do you do when the dishwasher is broke?

Kick the bitch

I could go on all day.

I actually agree with you here, I deplore and lambast sexism, and marital abuse
Anarchic Conceptions
21-11-2005, 23:59
Are you trying to be clever?

Yes. Very.

You answered a rhetorical question you spastic.

Sue me.

Not my fault you cannot back up the verbal trash you spew all over internet message boards.

And i never said that there weren't a lot of flags out, the government just discouraged it,

Yet failed to back it up.

Odd.

Won't keep barbarians away? What the fuck are you smoking?

Do you really need me to put it in simple words for you?
Eruantalon
22-11-2005, 00:01
Blame the liberals, I know I do. **Burns down Berkely**
I blame conservatives. It's as if in your country, people can't even write a book involving gay characters without inciting the wrath of some conservative group calling for a ban.
Khodros
22-11-2005, 00:04
Lets here em, big man.

Having grown up with three feminists in my family, and having become familiar with the feminist ethos, I disagree with it on the basis of equality. I'm in favor of gender equality, but IMO that's not what the feminist agenda truly aims to accomplish. If the personal behaviours of feminists serves as any indication of their motives, then what most of them want is a matriarchial system in which women are in charge and men play a subservient role.

Not only that, but there is a pervasive conception among feminists that men are useless, unreliable, needing guidance, etc. In short the underlying message is sexist, and is just as intolerant and damaging as anything a misogynist would come up with. I am opposed to any social hierarchy that discriminates based on gender, race, or other human characteristics.

That's why I don't like feminism.
Vaginesia
22-11-2005, 00:06
Do you really need me to put it in simple words for you?

Yes, for I am an immigrant and hav very little comprehension of the english language, yet i expect employment, government benefits, and this society to adapt to encompass my cultural wants and needs whilst i make no effort to adapt myself.
Anarchic Conceptions
22-11-2005, 00:09
No, its fraudulent bilge.

Just a little joke. Where ever you have discrimination, it comes in both negative and positive flavours. (So one could say "Pre-1960 America had a proud history of positive discrimination."

Assinine I know. But its geting late.

Ooh, try my being at least four times as qulaified as blood mbangabanga, yet being refused employment because he is ethnic. I am actually discriminated against when I, the white, caucasian, thoroughly english fellow, compete against one who should not be here

Yeah. I'm sure it was that which lost you your job.

Also, if he should not be here, could you not just report him to the immigration service as an illegal. In which case he was probably hired because he was willing to work for 50p an hour.

The government (left wing, overly modern, disrespectful, lying morons every one:mad: ), do indeed oppose such patriotism, we simply flout such multi-cultural bilge

Yes, they oppose patriotism so much that when ever the national team wins, something good happens for the country, make sure they are the first to stand up in parliament and be the first to congladulate the successful team, organisation.

Well, its one step towards deported.

Some people push back (looks at France)

Though deportation isn't really practical nor economic now is it?

Excuse me, I have been accosted by such a fellow for singing, somewhat drunkenly, "Engerland", after the Argentina match, since it offends Muslims. And yet he claims to be English... hooray for immigration

Well call him a idiot who should get a thicker skin.

I frequently get disapproving looks, shouted down plus more for my occasionally crude sense of humour (eg "What do you call female peacock? A peacunt), but I fail to see the need to rail about political correctness gone mad.

Its a damnsight more agreable than welcoming the with open arms, and abandoning our due rights to them.

Well if it feel good do it...

I actually agree with you here, I deplore and lambast sexism, and marital abuse

*sigh* I have loads.
Anarchic Conceptions
22-11-2005, 00:11
Having grown up with three feminists in my family, and having become familiar with the feminist ethos, I disagree with it on the basis of equality. I'm in favor of gender equality, but IMO that's not what the feminist agenda truly aims to accomplish. If the personal behaviours of feminists serves as any indication of their motives, then what most of them want is a matriarchial system in which women are in charge and men play a subservient role.

Feminism is a very broad church. To dismiss them all because of one brand you find distastful is absurd.
Chris on High
22-11-2005, 00:11
Yes, for I am an immigrant and hav very little comprehension of the english language, yet i expect employment, government benefits, and this society to adapt to encompass my cultural wants and needs whilst i make no effort to adapt myself.

Well indeed, my dear fellow, if you will but give us here in the Labour party ut a minute, we'll find employment that disadvantages one of our citizens, locate you in an urban environment akin to your land of provenance, and house you using the tax money of the upper orders.

Incidentally, don't feel inclined to adapt to British culture in any manner, or make any attempt to become fluent in English, i daresay employment will be forthcoming irrespective of you evident, pronounced and severe deficiencies
Anarchic Conceptions
22-11-2005, 00:17
Yes, for I am an immigrant and hav very little comprehension of the english language, yet i expect employment, government benefits, and this society to adapt to encompass my cultural wants and needs whilst i make no effort to adapt myself.

Stop being trite, you are only making yourself look ridiculous.

Not all immigrants are like that. In fact I have met very few like that (I can count them on the fingers of one hand). Seeing as I come from a immigrant family. Know a great many immigrants etc. The proportion really is very small.

Anyway, when I meet ones like that I just ridicule them like anyone holding stupid beliefs. But to act as if they are all like that is silly.

The only immigrants I find objectionable are the ones I live with, when they keep on flipping the trip switch. :mad:
Vaginesia
22-11-2005, 00:22
Stop being trite, you are only making yourself look ridiculous.

Not all immigrants are like that. In fact I have met very few like that (I can count them on the fingers of one hand). Seeing as I come from a immigrant family. Know a great many immigrants etc. The proportion really is very small.


The only reason you haven't seen any of them is because they segregate themselves in their own little societies, demanding welfare from the state, and then give relatively little back in return, exept terrorists.
Anarchic Conceptions
22-11-2005, 00:23
Well indeed, my dear fellow, if you will but give us here in the Labour party ut a minute, we'll find employment that disadvantages one of our citizens, locate you in an urban environment akin to your land of provenance, and house you using the tax money of the upper orders.

Incidentally, don't feel inclined to adapt to British culture in any manner, or make any attempt to become fluent in English, i daresay employment will be forthcoming irrespective of you evident, pronounced and severe deficiencies

Yes, becaus it is all Labour's fault :rolleyes:

Nothing to do with the large business, who for the most part only hire immigrant labour (or prefere to) because they work for far less then just about any Brit and don't complain as much (or, don't complain in any comprehendable language at any rate) and don't mind being treated like crap (or put up with it at any rate).

Funnily enough, one of the companies that does this is a cleaning company that has a cleaning contract with the Palace of Westminster. (You know, the ones that were striking recently, because conditions were really that bad). Labour really showed its stripes there.

Actually not sure if it has been resolved yet.
Anarchic Conceptions
22-11-2005, 00:25
The only reason you haven't seen any of them is because they segregate themselves in their own little societies, demanding welfare from the state, and then give relatively little back in return, exept terrorists.

Not denying they don't exist. Just think they are far less then many make out. Probably just as many (in proportional) as natives who do exactly the same thing. (Except for the terrorist thing, of course.)

Should they be deported too?
The Atlantian islands
22-11-2005, 00:41
I blame conservatives. It's as if in your country, people can't even write a book involving gay characters without inciting the wrath of some conservative group calling for a ban.

Ah, good ol America :D . Theres no need for liberals to push this unacceptable lifestyle onto the majority, or the evolving minds of our children.
The Atlantian islands
22-11-2005, 00:44
Having grown up with three feminists in my family, and having become familiar with the feminist ethos, I disagree with it on the basis of equality. I'm in favor of gender equality, but IMO that's not what the feminist agenda truly aims to accomplish. If the personal behaviours of feminists serves as any indication of their motives, then what most of them want is a matriarchial system in which women are in charge and men play a subservient role.

Not only that, but there is a pervasive conception among feminists that men are useless, unreliable, needing guidance, etc. In short the underlying message is sexist, and is just as intolerant and damaging as anything a misogynist would come up with. I am opposed to any social hierarchy that discriminates based on gender, race, or other human characteristics.

That's why I don't like feminism.

I agree, it makes almost as much sense as equality with positive discriminition. Silly liberals...:rolleyes:
Neu Leonstein
22-11-2005, 00:45
*trying very hard not to explode*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

READ, LEARN, IMPROVE!
The Atlantian islands
22-11-2005, 00:47
*trying very hard not to explode*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

READ, LEARN, IMPROVE!

I know, my good Deutsch buddy, I know. But as I am an American, I am used to speaking like one. Here let me put it this way...."silly AMERICAN liberals...."
Candelar
22-11-2005, 00:48
Well, in England we have a TERRIBLE PC problem, santa isn't allowed, it might offend people, you can't say merry christmas, u have to say festive something, just incase a muslim walks past finds it an insult to his religion so bombs somewhere. It's ridiculous, and people of other religions have even spoke out saying, we don't care, but still the government don't care, PC everything!!!:headbang:

well thats my rant over...
I live in England too (in a multi-racial, multi-faith city) I still hear "Merry Christmas" and Santa will be in the local shopping mall again this year. We'll have Christmas on the TV, there are plenty of Santa-style and religious Christmas cards in the shops, etc etc.

Only in the tabloids do a few instances of excessive PC behaviour get translated into "Christmas isn't allowed any more". It ain't true.
Khodros
22-11-2005, 00:57
Feminism is a very broad church. To dismiss them all because of one brand you find distastful is absurd.

Perhaps so, but I've known a LOT of feminists, and one thing practically all have shared in common has been a low opinion of men in general. There are varying degrees of distaste, but that's the general theme. So few have expressed egalitarian aims that I no longer equate feminism with gender equality.

Compare that to say the Civil Rights movement. Almost no civil rights advocates argue that blacks have an inherent right to be better off than whites, or that blacks are more capable than whites. The aim of the movement was and still is to obtain racial parity, not to permanently tip the social scales in favor of blacks. I don't think the feminist movement on the whole still holds that sort of parity as an ideal.
Pschycotic Pschycos
22-11-2005, 01:09
F*** that mutherf***ing S***, man! Political correctness is for p***ies!!! Kiss my shiney, metal, daffodil A**!!!!!!


(For the record, I'm joking, so don't call the mods or anything like that.)
Neo Kervoskia
22-11-2005, 01:11
Racist: They like the back of the bus.
Other: ...
Racist: What?
Other: ...
Racist: My best friends are black.
Other: Point?
Racist: I never had one.