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First Robertson and now Falwell. In my opinion the only difference between these Religious Zealots and the one's in the mideast are the explosive vests.

Jerry Falwell has backed the "Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign" which aims to boycott buisnesses that won't say "Merry Christmas". Next weekend's target is Target stores. Seem's Target won't put the word's Merry Christmas in their Advertisement's prefering to use wording that is less secular and more inclusive, such as "Happy Holidays". Target doesn't ban the phrase "merry Christmas", they just choose not to include it in their printed advertisements and in-store signage. This has incurred the wrath of the religious right, who can't see the hypocrisy of their attempt to force the use of the phrase.

This is why I hate both the holiday season and organized religion.

And just like the pharasees of Jesus time----They hire soldiers to do their killing.

As a Christian, I'd like to say, "Looks like I'll be doing more Christmas shopping at Target this year!" =)

First Robertson and now Falwell. In my opinion the only difference between these Religious Zealots and the one's in the mideast are the explosive vests.

Jerry Falwell has backed the "Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign" which aims to boycott buisnesses that won't say "Merry Christmas". Next weekend's target is Target stores. Seem's Target won't put the word's Merry Christmas in their Advertisement's prefering to use wording that is less secular and more inclusive, such as "Happy Holidays". Target doesn't ban the phrase "merry Christmas", they just choose not to include it in their printed advertisements and in-store signage. This has incurred the wrath of the religious right, who can't see the hypocracy of their attempt to force the use of the phrase.

This is why I hate both the holiday season and organized religion.
I dislike this as much as I dispise people boycotting based on the praze being included in advertising

I choose plases to shop by busness pracices that really matter and product not because something as silly as an old school holliday saying being included or not

First Robertson and now Falwell. In my opinion the only difference between these Religious Zealots and the one's in the mideast are the explosive vests.

Jerry Falwell has backed the "Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign" which aims to boycott buisnesses that won't say "Merry Christmas". Next weekend's target is Target stores. Seem's Target won't put the word's Merry Christmas in their Advertisement's prefering to use wording that is less secular and more inclusive, such as "Happy Holidays". Target doesn't ban the phrase "merry Christmas", they just choose not to include it in their printed advertisements and in-store signage. This has incurred the wrath of the religious right, who can't see the hypocracy of their attempt to force the use of the phrase.

This is why I hate both the holiday season and organized religion.

Well, its bloody stupid alright; but hey, this is the same group who chucked a nut over unilever giving same sex couples the same benefits as heterosexual couples.

All I can say, the problem with Farwell and Robertson, they have too much time on their hands; solution? round up all christian fundamentalists, set up a labour camp and get them doing something worth while; like digging a massive valley for hydro dam or send them over to Chenobal and get them cleaning up the mess - but without the require suites, one has to save money.

And just like the pharasees of Jesus time----They hire soldiers to do their killing.
Er, what? Whose killing someone? Its just a boycot, nothing serious at all.
Anything that strips market share away from Target and their vile advertising campaigns is doubleplusgood in my book.

Well, its bloody stupid alright; but hey, this is the same group who chucked a nut over unilever giving same sex couples the same benefits as heterosexual couples.

All I can say, the problem with Farwell and Robertson, they have too much time on their hands; solution? round up all christian fundamentalists, set up a labour camp and get them doing something worth while; like digging a massive valley for hydro dam or send them over to Chenobal and get them cleaning up the mess - but without the require suites, one has to save money.
Alternatively, just have the dig a big old hole. You can fill it when they've all dropped dead.

Seem's Target won't put the word's Merry Christmas in their Advertisement's prefering to use wording that is less secular and more inclusive, such as "Happy Holidays".

To be nitpicky the second time on this forum, don't you mean "less religious"? Secular would be what the religious right are fighting against, not supporting. :)

*wonders what sales are going on at Target right now*

Alternatively, just have the dig a big old hole. You can fill it when they've all dropped dead.

Ah, true, or just use their body as fuel for power plants; I have a feeling that Farwell's fat could probably power the whole country for a few months just off deposits in his ass.

First Robertson and now Falwell. In my opinion the only difference between these Religious Zealots and the one's in the mideast are the explosive vests.

Jerry Falwell has backed the "Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign" which aims to boycott buisnesses that won't say "Merry Christmas". Next weekend's target is Target stores. Seem's Target won't put the word's Merry Christmas in their Advertisement's prefering to use wording that is less secular and more inclusive, such as "Happy Holidays". Target doesn't ban the phrase "merry Christmas", they just choose not to include it in their printed advertisements and in-store signage. This has incurred the wrath of the religious right, who can't see the hypocrisy of their attempt to force the use of the phrase.

This is why I hate both the holiday season and organized religion.
People who feel treatened do strange things.

; solution? round up all christian fundamentalists, set up a labour camp and get them doing something worth while; like digging a massive valley for hydro dam or send them over to Chenobal and get them cleaning up the mess - but without the require suites, one has to save money.
Ah yes. The ultimate far left solution to everything: gulags. "Think the way we think, or be imprisoned, or worse. How lovely. :rolleyes:

People who feel treatened do strange things.Yeah I'm sure that's it.... Whenever someone fails to say "Merry Christmas" to me I feel they have no right to do buisiness... Don't we all?

Ah yes. The ultimate far left solution to everything: gulags. "Think the way we think, or be imprisoned, or worse. How lovely. :rolleyes:
He wasn't suggesting a gulag, just because the people won't get to spend their time in "suites" doesn't make it that terrible. Motels, while not fantabulous, are easily survivable ordeals.

He wasn't suggesting a gulag, just because the people won't get to spend their time in "suites" doesn't make it that terrible. Motels, while not fantabulous, are easily survivable ordeals.

Thats what you think...

To be nitpicky the second time on this forum, don't you mean "less religious"? Secular would be what the religious right are fighting against, not supporting. :)

*wonders what sales are going on at Target right now*
I hate you.

Thats what you think...
Well, yes, I suppose that is what I think, because that is what I said.
Or were you trying to make a joke? I guess I was confused by the complete lack of humour.
This is deadly serious business!

Well, yes, I suppose that is what I think, because that is what I said.
Or were you trying to make a joke? I guess I was confused by the complete lack of humour.
This is deadly serious business!

Well...Flubblefluffins!

Bitch!

Well...Flubblefluffins!

Bitch!
Oh dear. Such a powerful and persuasive argument!
Is there any counter that could possibly defeat it? Oh, I've found one:
Your Mom!

Oh dear. Such a powerful and persuasive argument!
Is there any counter that could possibly defeat it? Oh, I've found one:
Your Mom!

Touche. Good point.

Your Grandma!

Touche. Good point.

Your Grandma!
Clever, and a most original take on the issue at hand. However, you have left a crucial hole in your defenses:

Your momma, Your daddy,
Your greasy haired granny!

Clever, and a most original take on the issue at hand. However, you have left a crucial hole in your defenses:

Your momma, Your daddy,
Your greasy haired granny!

As always, your intellect shows itself. But, as you attack my hole, it was but a trap for you.

Your brother, your sister,
Your dog, your cat,
Your cow, your camel
Your platypus made of Enamel!

As always, your intellect shows itself. But, as you attack my hole, it was but a trap for you.

Your brother, your sister,
Your dog, your cat,
Your cow, your camel
Your platypus made of Enamel!
This is a great argument you've got going on here, but might I suggest the use of "Your face is [insert whatever the other person last said]"?

As always, your intellect shows itself. But, as you attack my hole, it was but a trap for you.

Your brother, your sister,
Your dog, your cat,
Your cow, your camel
Your platypus made of Enamel!
Truly a master of words. Very skillful, and a near flawless execution, but you have failed to consider one thing:

You suck times 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times infinity. And your face is made of Enamel!

whats the deal w/ target, i thought it was walmart that really sucked
yours benevolently, parrot no

Truly a master of words. Very skillful, and a near flawless execution, but you have failed to consider one thing:

You suck times 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times infinity. And your face is made of Enamel!


Ah! Indeed you are a gread and wise seer. A very worthy opponent. But, in accusing me of missing your final point, you leave yourself open for the master stroke.

You suck my balls

1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times infinity, and your face is a anus!

As you see, this is the master stroke. Unfourtunatly, I cannot continue our lively debate. I look foward to more verbal sparring on the English battlefield.

Ah yes. The ultimate far left solution to everything: gulags. "Think the way we think, or be imprisoned, or worse. How lovely. :rolleyes:

No, its "if you don't stop forcing your beliefs down our throat, we'll make sure that your final days on earth are as miserable as those whom you oppressed for years".

I have nothing wrong with someone having fundamentalist beliefs, just don't think that you have the right to ram your beliefs down my throat.

Don't like a sodomite homosexualist like myself, then don't associate with me! don't like same sex marriage, then don't host one at your church or recognise that couples status.

Ah! Indeed you are a gread and wise seer. A very worthy opponent. But, in accusing me of missing your final point, you leave yourself open for the master stroke.

You suck my balls 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times infinity, and your face is a anus!

As you see, this is the master stroke. Unfourtunatly, I cannot continue our lively debate. I look foward to more verbal sparring on the English battlefield.
Your rapier wit is indeed a great thing to behold in action, but it is hardly invulnerable to mine own. However, I think that we should, indeed, leave this lively debate off for the time-being. First, however:

You're Gay, Ass-weasel! And you like to have Gay sex! With men! Because you are gay!

Now I think we can close this chapter. You are a truly worth opponent, and I hope that we may meet again.

you americans always go with the worst possible solutions. why don't people just tell falwell to shut his greasy hole? and stop listening to the fucker. i do like the labour camp idea. cept instead of having them do menial labour, why don't we use them for the betterment of mankind? 'ok... the apparent human side effects of this particular antibiotic are diarrhea, headache, and internal bleeding. next!'

I don't really see the problem with wishing someone a "Merry Christmas" , in the first place.. I wouldn't feel overly offended had someone wished me a "Happy Hanukah" I'm not Jewish, but I would interpret it only as them wishing me well.

It seems we've (society) become so sensitive about everything.. all this "Politically Correct" stuff; perhaps it's harming society more than it's helping. Maybe we should just gracefully take a holiday greeting for what it is, and move on.

I think Holidays such as Christmas, Hanukah, Ramadan, etc. should inspire awareness, of our diversity. Use this time to educate each other not inspire intolerence, and ignorance of one religion simply because it happened to be the majority.

you americans always go with the worst possible solutions. why don't people just tell falwell to shut his greasy hole? and stop listening to the fucker. i do like the labour camp idea. cept instead of having them do menial labour, why don't we use them for the betterment of mankind? 'ok... the apparent human side effects of this particular antibiotic are diarrhea, headache, and internal bleeding. next!'

Well, thats assuming that Christian Fundamentalist lifestyle hasn't changed them at the genetic level :P all that holy water can cause damage ;)

Menial labour, from 5:00am to 8:00pm each day, dinner is a bowl of rice; 2 hours each night of history, science and philosophy; then in bed by 11:00.

Anyone who fails to pull their weight is instantly shot and their body used to head the camp internal heating system.

First Robertson and now Falwell. In my opinion the only difference between these Religious Zealots and the one's in the mideast are the explosive vests.

Jerry Falwell has backed the "Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign" which aims to boycott buisnesses that won't say "Merry Christmas". Next weekend's target is Target stores. Seem's Target won't put the word's Merry Christmas in their Advertisement's prefering to use wording that is less secular and more inclusive, such as "Happy Holidays". Target doesn't ban the phrase "merry Christmas", they just choose not to include it in their printed advertisements and in-store signage. This has incurred the wrath of the religious right, who can't see the hypocrisy of their attempt to force the use of the phrase.

This is why I hate both the holiday season and organized religion.


Your statement is filled with hatred and deluded fallacies of all sorts!

Well, its bloody stupid alright; but hey, this is the same group who chucked a nut over unilever giving same sex couples the same benefits as heterosexual couples.

All I can say, the problem with Farwell and Robertson, they have too much time on their hands; solution? round up all christian fundamentalists, set up a labour camp and get them doing something worth while; like digging a massive valley for hydro dam or send them over to Chenobal and get them cleaning up the mess - but without the require suites, one has to save money.


That would be a job better suited for the immoral atheists and people of false faith that most likely created those messes to begin with.

People who feel treatened do strange things.

You mean like most people of all genders, race and cultures?

Yeah I'm sure that's it.... Whenever someone fails to say "Merry Christmas" to me I feel they have no right to do buisiness... Don't we all?


And I'm one of them. Absolutely!

That would be a job better suited for the immoral atheists and people of false faith that most likely created those messes to begin with.

Interesting, and through history the most psychotic killers/muders have been religiously inclined.

Hitler was a Catholic who routinely used the Gospel of John to justify his stance that Jesus couldn't have been a Jew; and colluded with the Catholic church on many occasions.

Stalin, before the Bolshevik revolution was training to become a Russian Orthodox priest - interesting how he put is 'hell fire and brimstone' training into practice - at the more hands on way.

Again, what contribution has the likes of Farwell and Robertson given to the US? all I can see are two poorly educated people with the gift of the gab, choosing the most simplistic way of displaying christianity as to be attractive to the lowest common denominator in society.

1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times infinity, and your face is a anus![/B]


Why didnt someone just say infinity +1?

Anyway, Relgion, Store ive never heard off, America. Hmmm, not suprised considering your own President cant even escape a press conference.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4454738.stm

What? Target is dark sided? Well, Jesus H. Christ. I guess I'll just go back to stringing up my dingleberries.

Oh yeah. You suck, you illegitimate spawn of a flea-raped donkey!

I have no idea who that was directed to. I just wanted to join in on the insult-fest.

I hate you.


Comments like those are rampant amongst atheists. The so called people who want to make this a better world for all. Keep up the good work towards your perverted hypocrytical agenda. Thanks for providing and proving to the world your true intentons!

No, its "if you don't stop forcing your beliefs down our throat, we'll make sure that your final days on earth are as miserable as those whom you oppressed for years".

I have nothing wrong with someone having fundamentalist beliefs, just don't think that you have the right to ram your beliefs down my throat.

Don't like a sodomite homosexualist like myself, then don't associate with me! don't like same sex marriage, then don't host one at your church or recognise that couples status.

Glad to see your not trying to force your agenda down anyone's throat! (rolls eyes).

you americans always go with the worst possible solutions. why don't people just tell falwell to shut his greasy hole? and stop listening to the fucker. i do like the labour camp idea. cept instead of having them do menial labour, why don't we use them for the betterment of mankind? 'ok... the apparent human side effects of this particular antibiotic are diarrhea, headache, and internal bleeding. next!'


And those things you suggest are for the betterment of mankind? WOW, truely amazing!

Well, thats assuming that Christian Fundamentalist lifestyle hasn't changed them at the genetic level :P all that holy water can cause damage ;)

Menial labour, from 5:00am to 8:00pm each day, dinner is a bowl of rice; 2 hours each night of history, science and philosophy; then in bed by 11:00.

Anyone who fails to pull their weight is instantly shot and their body used to head the camp internal heating system.


More great solutions from the compassionate athiests that have a better world in mind. Ha, thanks for the laughs!

Glad to see your not trying to force your agenda down anyone's throat! (rolls eyes).
So Arny, do you feel a boycott is warrent, simply because a chain doesn't use a strictly Christian term in a bit of advertising?

And do you have a sense of humour?

Interesting, and through history the most psychotic killers/muders have been religiously inclined.

Hitler was a Catholic who routinely used the Gospel of John to justify his stance that Jesus couldn't have been a Jew; and colluded with the Catholic church on many occasions.

Stalin, before the Bolshevik revolution was training to become a Russian Orthodox priest - interesting how he put is 'hell fire and brimstone' training into practice - at the more hands on way.

Again, what contribution has the likes of Farwell and Robertson given to the US? all I can see are two poorly educated people with the gift of the gab, choosing the most simplistic way of displaying christianity as to be attractive to the lowest common denominator in society.


Would you lay down and die or fight to your last breath in what you belived and were passionate about? IT'S NO DIFFERENT FOR THE ENEMY!

Your statement is filled with hatred and deluded fallacies of all sorts!I'd ask you to point out any 'deluded fallacies' in my post, but upon reading the inane and random responses you've been posting to so many of the posts in this thread, I've decided to spare myself the futility and aggravation.

Some rocks are better left unturned.

You never know what might crawl out from underneath...

So Arny, do you feel a boycott is warrent, simply because a chain doesn't use a strictly Christian term in a bit of advertising?

And do you have a sense of humour?


Yes on both counts. As you can see, I just laughed on my previous post regarding a comment by another poster.


I though spamming and FLAMEBATING were against the rules here on Jolt. But I guess it's a double standard that is only enforced for Christians. Ha, thanks for more laughs! Hey moderators, where are you?

May you all have a joyous Merry Christmas!

First Robertson and now Falwell. In my opinion the only difference between these Religious Zealots and the one's in the mideast are the explosive vests.

Jerry Falwell has backed the "Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign" which aims to boycott buisnesses that won't say "Merry Christmas". Next weekend's target is Target stores. Seem's Target won't put the word's Merry Christmas in their Advertisement's prefering to use wording that is less secular and more inclusive, such as "Happy Holidays". Target doesn't ban the phrase "merry Christmas", they just choose not to include it in their printed advertisements and in-store signage. This has incurred the wrath of the religious right, who can't see the hypocrisy of their attempt to force the use of the phrase.

This is why I hate both the holiday season and organized religion.

I agree. Religious people are wankers. :headbang:

Comments like those are rampant amongst atheists. The so called people who want to make this a better world for all. Keep up the good work towards your perverted hypocrytical agenda. Thanks for providing and proving to the world your true intentons!


Comments like that are rampant among just about every group of people. Hate is a powerful emotion that all people feel whether they say they do or not.

"Perverted hypocritical agenda"? Since when was christianity not a hypocrisy? There are few religions out there that are not hypocritical. Perverted? Perverted? What the hell do you expect out of a religion with no rules, guidelines or commandments? How can you not be perverted in this age and time without fear that jesus will come and smite you with his oh so merciful powers?


Proving the world of our true intentions? You got this out of one person? Most atheists don't give a damn about your religion until you shove it down their throats.


You're such a kind-hearted soul. Have tea some time?
~The egocentric ruler of Dumbnutica

PS: All words without caps are intentional

Would you lay down and die or fight to your last breath in what you belived and were passionate about? IT'S NO DIFFERENT FOR THE ENEMY!
Yups. For example, I'd lay down my life to ensure that everyone has the right to boycott whatever they want.

I don't think this is a huge deal or anything. Chances are the fundies only accomplish in giving the chain a lot of positive attention. Though I don't even hope that happens, because it's just like the sony/M$ suit people have been talking about on here lately.

I do hope the fundies dies a slow & painful death. Preferrably one that has them begging their little stone cold hearts out for euthenasia. But I'll not be the one to bring such a thing upon them. They try to make Americans similar to myself miserable. Atheism & vengeance have nothing to do with eachother. But those fundie halfwits should not be surprised if people at some point respond by trying to make their lives miserable as well. It's a rare day that actions doesn't result in reactions.

The slightly ironic bile you've seen in this thread, my me & others, has nothing to do with atheism, theism or ufo-worthship. It's just people who're pissed off at a tiny minority that actively try to make others lives as hard as possible.

Your fundie mates need to leave others the fuck alone. If you lot ever show up at one of my friends burial, I will hunt every last one of you down & rip you & your families apart & piss on your corpses.

You get that kind of reaction because of YOUR actions. Not because people hate your faith or want to convert you. Nobody gives a shit what you believe. But noone wants to know either. Respect that or face the fucking music.

May you all have a joyous Merry Christmas!


I hope I have not offended anyone with my above vulgur, depraved and hateful statement! Please forgive me all for not using the language some of you are so accostumed to. I must go and wash my mouth out with soap and water now. Excuse me, I'll be back!

I hope I have not offended anyone with my above vulgur, depraved and hateful statement! Please forgive me all for not using the language some of you are so accostumed to. I must go and wash my mouth out with soap and water now. Excuse me, I'll be back!

Use Dove.

Comments like that are rampant among just about every group of people. Hate is a powerful emotion that all people feel whether they say they do or not.

"Perverted hypocritical agenda"? Since when was christianity not a hypocrisy? There are few religions out there that are not hypocritical. Perverted? Perverted? What the hell do you expect out of a religion with no rules, guidelines or commandments? How can you not be perverted in this age and time without fear that jesus will come and smite you with his oh so merciful powers?


Proving the world of our true intentions? You got this out of one person? Most atheists don't give a damn about your religion until you shove it down their throats.


You're such a kind-hearted soul. Have tea some time?
~The egocentric ruler of Dumbnutica

PS: All words without caps are intentional


And the intention of this thread was what to be specific? Perhaps to show respect and compassion towards Christians? I call this SPAMMING and FLAMEBATTING!

Tea sounds wonderful! What time did you say?

I hope I have not offended anyone with my above vulgur, depraved and hateful statement! Please forgive me all for not using the language some of you are so accostumed to. I must go and wash my mouth out with soap and water now. Excuse me, I'll be back!
No Problem... take your time. If you feel the need for a little flagellation or other form of penance, go right ahead. Don't worry about us... we'll be fine.

And the intention of this thread was what to be specific? Perhaps to show respect and compassion towards Christians? I call this SPAMMING and FLAMEBATTING!

Tea sounds wonderful! What time did you say?Actually the purpose of this thread was to point out Falwells public backing of the American Family Association and Liberty Counsel's ill concieved " Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign" via his weekly Falwell Confidential e-mail. And of course to invite discussion and comment on it.

Perhaps you meant to ask the intention of Dunbnutica's post.....

Don't these "Christians" have anything better to do? Like organize charities or other Jesus-like activities? Nooo... instead they feel the need to start a "do as we say or else" campaign. Ugh.

Yule-tide greetings to all!

I find it amusing that non-Christians want to take part in celebrating Christmas without acknowledging the holidays Christian heritage. I also find it amusing that non-Christians are concerned where a Christian chooses to spend or not spend his paycheck. I personally do not care where/if either variety spends or their money, or how/if they celebrate. But I do find all the hoo-hoo amusing.

Er, what? Whose killing someone? Its just a boycot, nothing serious at all.
Anything that strips market share away from Target and their vile advertising campaigns is doubleplusgood in my book.
goddamn!

i'm tired of people abusing the word "doubleplusgood." yeah! we all read 1984! don't you realize, though, that this is the greatest possible goodness?! for something as insignificant as a company being punished for its practices, "plusgood" should more than suffice! I mean, we ALWAYS see either "good" or "doubleplusgood" from people who feel like using newspeak. But newspeak has 3 levels of affirmative adjectives! why only use two of them!? :/

Yups. For example, I'd lay down my life to ensure that everyone has the right to boycott whatever they want.

Bullshit. You wouldn't do a thing if the gov't made it a crime to "incite to boycott." :P

I find it amusing that non-Christians want to take part in celebrating Christmas without acknowledging the holidays Christian heritage. I also find it amusing that non-Christians are concerned where a Christian chooses to spend or not spend his paycheck. I personally do not care where/if either variety spends or their money, or how/if they celebrate. But I do find all the hoo-hoo amusing.

I find it amusing that Christians want to take part in celebrating Yule without acknowledging the holiday's Pagan heritage. I also find it amusing that Christians are concerned what a non-religious private company chooses to put in their advertising.

People are entitled to boycot! Or is their some law that prohibits this?

Bullshit. You wouldn't do a thing if the gov't made it a crime to "incite to boycott." :P
You'll just have to take my word for it. I'm one of those pain-in-the-bum political activists.

You'll just have to take my word for it. I'm one of those pain-in-the-bum political activists.
It's like when the Supreme Court decided the gov't could take away private property and give it to another person. I remember stating, "I'm not proud to be an American anymore." And I wasn't, don't get me wrong! Given a few months, though, I'm as patriotic as ever. :P

I find it amusing that Christians want to take part in celebrating Yule without acknowledging the holiday's Pagan heritage. I also find it amusing that Christians are concerned what a non-religious private company chooses to put in their advertising.

+1 for Cromotar.

+1 for Cromotar.
...Every post adds 1 to your post count. Unless you're in FYAD, that is.

...Every post adds 1 to your post count. Unless you're in FYAD, that is.

Wha?

Wha?
In FYAD, each post decreases one from your postcount. That lets you identify FYAD posters by their negative postcount.

solution? round up all christian fundamentalists, set up a labour camp and get them doing something worth while; like digging a massive valley for hydro dam or send them over to Chenobal and get them cleaning up the mess - but without the require suites, one has to save money.

Alternatively, just have the dig a big old hole. You can fill it when they've all dropped dead.

Ah, true, or just use their body as fuel for power plants;

Well, thats assuming that Christian Fundamentalist lifestyle hasn't changed them at the genetic level
*snip*
Anyone who fails to pull their weight is instantly shot and their body used to head the camp internal heating system.

I do hope the fundies dies a slow & painful death. Preferrably one that has them begging their little stone cold hearts out for euthenasia...

Your fundie mates need to leave others the fuck alone. If you lot ever show up at one of my friends burial, I will hunt every last one of you down & rip you & your families apart & piss on your corpses.

You get that kind of reaction because of YOUR actions. Not because people hate your faith or want to convert you. Nobody gives a shit what you believe. But noone wants to know either. Respect that or face the fucking music.


I kind of get the feeling that calling in moderators on this little lot wouldn't be too far out of line, but I'm not going to. If such vitriolic hatred was directed against any other group of people on NS, you can bet your bottom dollar the perpetrators would be banned. 'Rip you and your families apart'? 'shot and their body used to head [sic] the camp internal heating system'?

If this is what you call ironic, you have a very bizarre understanding of the word. This is nothing but abusive and downright offensive.

As it is, I'm asking you to try to think a little before posting such hatred in future. Try to understand that such bile makes any complaint you have of other people ramming their opinions down your throat smack somewhat of hypocrisy.

I kind of get the feeling that calling in moderators on this little lot wouldn't be too far out of line, but I'm not going to. If such vitriolic hatred was directed against any other group of people on NS, you can bet your bottom dollar the perpetrators would be banned. 'Rip you and your families apart'? 'shot and their body used to head [sic] the camp internal heating system'?

If this is what you call ironic, you have a very bizarre understanding of the word. This is nothing but abusive and downright offensive.

As it is, I'm asking you to try to think a little before posting such hatred in future. Try to understand that such bile makes any complaint you have of other people ramming their opinions down your throat smack somewhat of hypocrisy.


I already reported them. Let's see what kind of justice is served!

hey! how dare you criticize atheists and pagans! at least they don't follow eeeevil organized religion! christians are worthy of death! love everybody! promote tolerance! rawr! ;)

Adding fuel to the fire won't help. Some will misinterpret your sarcasm.

Adding fuel to the fire won't help. Some will misinterpret your sarcasm.

I already reported them. Let's see what kind of justice is served!

I think that you added fuel too with your statement. you basically made it to show that you were right they were wrong, ha ha about it.

I find the person that stated it wouldn't be a bad thing to report but that they weren't going to do it, and listing the reasons why they felt that people were going a bit over board. was very respectful, and addressed it in a manner that was correct. Its so easy to sit there and be a tattletale, but show some intelligence and actually make your point to the people in which you are addressing.

Are you my master and keeper? I did what I felt needed to be done and would do so again if need be. Save your unwise words for someone else, for they will not work with me. Tattletale? But I'm sure it would be alright if you or someone else did it. Especially, if you felt that a Christian had attacked or offended you or your beliefs.

Are you my master and keeper? I did what I felt needed to be done and would do so again if need be. Save your unwise words for someone else, for they will not work with me. Tattletale? But I'm sure it would be alright if you or someone else did it. Especially, if you felt that a Christian had attacked or offended you or your beliefs.

a tattletale, in my opinion, is one that runs off and tells the authority, and then tells everyone that they did it. In my opinion if you have a problem with the way someone is talking, then you should address it first with them.

I don't really consider my words unwise, and no I am not your master and keeper, for only we, ourselves, shall ever be our masters and keepers.

And who is to say that I am not a christian? or that people haven't attacked my beliefs. I am open to people debateing my beliefs with me, as long as respect is used. You cannot know how strong your faith is until after it is tested.

I already reported them. Let's see what kind of justice is served!


oooh spot the self-righteous little prick

Are you my master and keeper? I did what I felt needed to be done and would do so again if need be. Save your unwise words for someone else, for they will not work with me. Tattletale? But I'm sure it would be alright if you or someone else did it. Especially, if you felt that a Christian had attacked or offended you or your beliefs.


By the way, this response is being addesessed to you Volkodlak. Hopefully, you won't get to lost!

oooh spot the self-righteous little prick


Oh my, sorry for my guilt! I must be the first person ever to do such a deed. Shame on me!

By the way, this response is being addesessed to you Volkodlak. Hopefully, you won't get to lost!
I have already replied, look up

a tattletale, in my opinion, is one that runs off and tells the authority, and then tells everyone that they did it. In my opinion if you have a problem with the way someone is talking, then you should address it first with them.

I don't really consider my words unwise, and no I am not your master and keeper, for only we, ourselves, shall ever be our masters and keepers.

And who is to say that I am not a christian? or that people haven't attacked my beliefs. I am open to people debateing my beliefs with me, as long as respect is used. You cannot know how strong your faith is until after it is tested.

Your opinion is just that.... an opinion. I have some to you know! Wow, what a coincidence!

Are you testing my faith?

Your opinion is just that.... an opinion. I have some to you know! Wow, what a coincidence!

Are you testing my faith?
If I was testing your faith I would state where I felt you were in confliction, and list off my points as to why i felt that way. I do not know your faith, so how can I challenge your viewpoint?

And to further the point of the post that was the start of the thread. Too often religious groups will take stances that they feel is the 'right and just' path, while all the while having no reason to make it a religious stance at all. Then, when they try to make a stance based on religious understandings, they have given themselves a negitive to stand on because people are just like, "oh great, another statement from 'them'"

I have found that most people that get publicly mocked have earned the right to be done so against.

Oh my, sorry for my guilt! I must be the first person ever to do such a deed. Shame on me!


You seem to be confusing what you've done with the childish manner in which you've done it.

Are you testing my faith?
Interesting approach.

Not every disagreement with you is explicitly for the purpose of disagreeing with you. Perhaps he just has a genuine difference in opinion?

Regardless of who flamed who this thread has gotten rather far off-track. Are we going to get back on topic or should we just ask the mods to lock it and be done with it?

Arnburg asked a while back if there was anything wrong with boycotting. I say of course not. What we're debating (and I use the term loosely) here is the motivation behind the instigators of this effort. Christmas is supposed to be a time of charity and good will toward men and such, yet they spend energy whining that some company doesn't do exactly what they want. In trying to force a privately owned company to say "Merry Christmas" they are defying the meaning of those very words.

If I was testing your faith I would state where I felt you were in confliction, and list off my points as to why i felt that way. I do not know your faith, so how can I challenge your viewpoint?

And to further the point of the post that was the start of the thread. Too often religious groups will take stances that they feel is the 'right and just' path, while all the while having no reason to make it a religious stance at all. Then, when they try to make a stance based on religious understandings, they have given themselves a negitive to stand on because people are just like, "oh great, another statement from 'them'"

I have found that most people that get publicly mocked have earned the right to be done so against.

And what Christian said what to lead to this offensive thread? Oh yeah, that's right, attacking and mocking Christians is just fine. Silence all Christians, for they have no rights and are wrong on all the issues! Well, as long as I'm alive, Christianity will survive. GOD bless!

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Arnburg asked a while back if there was anything wrong with boycotting. I say of course not. What we're debating (and I use the term loosely) here is the motivation behind the instigators of this effort. Christmas is supposed to be a time of charity and good will toward men and such, yet they spend energy whining that some company doesn't do exactly what they want. In trying to force a privately owned company to say "Merry Christmas" they are defying the meaning of those very words.


I agree that boycotting isn't wrong. I think that the base on which they are basing their statements will lead to further controversy, and in my opinion is counter to the stance they are trying to make.

One should never be forced to say something if they don't want to. Happy Holidays is still a proper statement in my opinion, even more so when you consider thanksgiving, and new years.

If they want to boycott, then more power to them. Its people standing up for their personal beliefs that helped make the united states the country that it is today. For better or worse, its what is american.

You seem to be confusing what you've done with the childish manner in which you've done it.

Confusion? Childish manner? OK, if you say so! Anything else oh great one?

cha cha cha charmin

stop the arguing

the mods will handle any complaints and nobody in this thread is anyone else in this thread's father, so there's no need to teach lessons in what's childish. After all, what's wrong with being childish? :P

It seems here that some Christians, fondly named as "Fundies" because of their Fundamental actions, have taken offence at a certain store/s not wishing to cry out "LOOK! WE'RE CHRISTIANS! BOW DOWN TO JESUS' MIGHT! DAMN RAGHEADS!" and other such pro-Christ slogans. Members of other beliefs, or sects of the Christian belief, feel this is wrong and are commentating in the way they feel appropriate.
Of course, seeing their almighty religion not regarded as the best thing since the King James' Bible, the Christians have re-acted on this forum to try and get the people apposing this show of force to be silenced.

Doesn't anyone find it interesting that some/most American Christians fight tooth and nail for their own rights (To be assholes, in my opinion of what I've learned from news stories on the internet.) but won't allow anyone else to have such rights, such as gay couples or people who don't follow Jesus Christ? Yeah, of course it's the Atheists who are hypocritical. :rolleyes:

Anyway, many of the Christains support Gee Dubba’s capitalist position on the economy. Wouldn’t it be better for the stores to have slogans which don’t alienate people of other religions so that the shop can get more money? Or is the petty matter of acknowledging a holiday on adverts important enough to change your beliefs and not Global Warming?

Confusion? Childish manner? OK, if you say so! Anything else oh great one?


Yes, your sarcasm is just making you come across as desperate, and if we're being honest, a little bit stupid.

Interesting approach.

Not every disagreement with you is explicitly for the purpose of disagreeing with you. Perhaps he just has a genuine difference in opinion?

Difference of opinion is fine. But the flaming started long before I even got to this thread. And for what reason exactly? No one ever insulted the opposing view, nor has of yet.

I agree that boycotting isn't wrong. I think that the base on which they are basing their statements will lead to further controversy, and in my opinion is counter to the stance they are trying to make.

One should never be forced to say something if they don't want to. Happy Holidays is still a proper statement in my opinion, even more so when you consider thanksgiving, and new years.

If they want to boycott, then more power to them. Its people standing up for their personal beliefs that helped make the united states the country that it is today. For better or worse, its what is american.

That's fine! And I choose to say Merry Christmas for the rest of my life. Others can choose to say Happy Holidays or Bah, humbug if they so choose. Also, I can choose who to do business with. It's my right!

The origins of Christmas

The Romans honored Saturn, the ancient god of agriculture, each year beginning on December 17 in a festival called the Saturnalia. This festival lasted for seven days and included the winter solstice, which at that time fell on December 25 (today, following calendar reform, it falls on December 21). During Saturnalia the Romans feasted, postponed all business and warfare, exchanged gifts, and temporarily freed their slaves. With the lengthening of daylight, these and other winter festivities continued through January 1, the festival of Kalends, when Romans marked the day of the new moon and the first day of the month and year.

By the 4th century another factor was also at work. Many Romans also celebrated the solstice on December 25 with festivities in honor of the rebirth of Sol Invictus, the "Invincible Sun God", or with rituals to glorify Mithra, the ancient Persian god of light (see Mithraism). Sol Invictus was a religion to which both Constantine himself before his confession of Christianity, and his predecessor Diocletian who had rebuilt the Roman Empire, were especially devoted, and to whom the latter had attributed his military successes (though Constantine saw Christ as having delivered him from the former Roman order's designs: Diocletian at one time had had Constantine living under his eye, against his will, separating him from his father). Constantine is therefore assumed to have found it convenient to find a common major festival for both Sol Invictus and Christianity. http://www.wikipedia.org


Well Christmas existed befor the Romans decided to be Christians for politically reasons. So Jesus wans't born at this time but it was more the celebration of the sun, and when Romans became Christians they didn't want to give up their old traditions and just rewrote the meanings of the very old celebrations. Thats it.

That's fine! And I choose to say Merry Christmas for the rest of my life. Others can choose to say Happy Holidays or Bah, humbug if they so choose. Also, I can choose who to do business with. It's my right!

why thank you for agreeing with me. and a marry christmas to yourself as well, and happy holidays, and have a happy new year.

Yes, your sarcasm is just making you come across as desperate, and if we're being honest, a little bit stupid.

You can always try and teach us to be just like you. But I hope you are aware that it will never work. But hey, you are free to keep trying!

http://www.wikipedia.org


Well Christmas existed befor the Romans decided to be Christians for politically reasons. So Jesus wans't born at this time but it was more the celebration of the sun, and when Romans became Christians they didn't want to give up their old traditions and just rewrote the meanings of the very old celebrations. Thats it.


Wikipedia, wasn't that written and inspired by man?

why thank you for agreeing with me. and a marry christmas to yourself as well, and happy holidays, and have a happy new year.


Same to you!

You know, when getting a fountain soda, I suggest getting around 4/5 of your soda of choice and fill the rest with soda water. Depending on your taste buds, this may taste pretty much the same while cutting out 20% of the sugar!

Same to you!
oh, and forgot to add, happy yule, and have a happy light festival. and dispite it all, may the Spirits be kinda to you this coming year.

You know, when getting a fountain soda, I suggest getting around 4/5 of your soda of choice and fill the rest with soda water. Depending on your taste buds, this may taste pretty much the same while cutting out 20% of the sugar!

I found that by cutting the soda i drink down by 75% and instead drinking various green tea and herbal teas, I cut my sugar intake down drastically, as well as tons of other unhealthy nasties as well, and the desire to drink pop was drastically dropped as well.

so I'm boycotting all pops because they didn't wish me a happy "insert holiday of choice here"

To every cold hearted Fundamentalist who thinks he is the truth and people with other opinions are made by the devil

Well I guess you are not written and inspired by man. I think you should be a prophet too because you seem to know everything and you are so smart that you never question anything. I wish I could be more like you and just know things because Ive been told not to think and just to believe everything. I am proud of you. Well there are hundreds of sources that can tell you the "truth" at least another point of view ,which every normal thinking person should do beacue those who dont know have to believe everything. Alot of rituals and so christian traditions are not truly Chrisitian. The Romans became Chrisitans because their Empire was crashing down and they needed something to unite them all. Alot of old Roman traditions were just replaced with Christian meanings so everybody was happy. Thats a fact and every educated Person knows that. If you would be a true Christian you never would celebrate in December but in Spring.

And what Christian said what to lead to this offensive thread? Oh yeah, that's right, attacking and mocking Christians is just fine. Silence all Christians, for they have no rights and are wrong on all the issues! Well, as long as I'm alive, Christianity will survive. GOD bless!

There's a difference between talking and preaching! I don't mind if you're Christian or not, but I mind a lot if society is christian, 'cause i'm not. It used to be but times changed, and now we should live together in respect, and that's something most churches and some believers don't want to understand. I make a clear differences between Church and believers 'cause churches are power structures nad faith is something that each one carries in his soul (supposing you believe in).

Religions rules cannot be society rules, and Falwells game it's a try to do that.
Anyway, atheists are so different as to having a single (and negative) point in common, we don't believe in god, that's all, we've got no gospel, nor a secret program or nonsense like that.:D

oooh spot the self-righteous little prick

Knock off the personal attacks, now.

solution? round up all christian fundamentalists, set up a labour camp and get them doing something worth while; like digging a massive valley for hydro dam or send them over to Chenobal and get them cleaning up the mess - but without the require suites, one has to save money.



Alternatively, just have the dig a big old hole. You can fill it when they've all dropped dead.


Lovely Boys
Ah, true, or just use their body as fuel for power plants;


Well, thats assuming that Christian Fundamentalist lifestyle hasn't changed them at the genetic level
*snip*
Anyone who fails to pull their weight is instantly shot and their body used to head the camp internal heating system.

Both of you can knock it off right now. Discussing the deaths of anyone like this is of very poor taste.


I do hope the fundies dies a slow & painful death. Preferrably one that has them begging their little stone cold hearts out for euthenasia...

Your fundie mates need to leave others the fuck alone. If you lot ever show up at one of my friends burial, I will hunt every last one of you down & rip you & your families apart & piss on your corpses.

You get that kind of reaction because of YOUR actions. Not because people hate your faith or want to convert you. Nobody gives a shit what you believe. But noone wants to know either. Respect that or face the fucking music.

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You know, when getting a fountain soda, I suggest getting around 4/5 of your soda of choice and fill the rest with soda water. Depending on your taste buds, this may taste pretty much the same while cutting out 20% of the sugar!

Your blatant spamming of this thread has been noticed. If I see you doing this in another thread, more serious action will be taken.