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Yes, of course it is of earthshattering importance, but -- which is best?

Crust makes it pizza, without crust it is simply a pizza cracker.

Chicago Deep Dish. Nothing comes close.

Italian style, thanks very much.

Italian here too.
None of that yankee gunk.

good pizzas in order:

1. cheap pizza
2. delicious pizza
3. "Your pizza experience was managed by Christ."

Chicago Deep Dish.
eeeewww its like a loaf of bread with a pizza stuck on top

italian/thin base style all the way

eeeewww its like a loaf of bread with a pizza stuck on top

italian/thin base style all the way

http://www.davincis.us/deep_dish.jpg

You're kidding, right? See that crust? It's thicker than New York style, but most of the "deepness" is the filling --- sauce, toppings, and cheese.

You're kidding, right?
no. http://foodpages.ca/itemimmgs/20000_1_1_Crispy_Thin-Crust_Appetizer_Pizza_1098876653.jpg

and i don't want my pizza with inch-deep toppings, thats not what pizza's about... its a delicious flavour anyway, and a balance of flavours between the tomato and the cheese (which is how even a margharita still tastes delicious dispite it being so "plain"). i don't know what i'm saying cos i only just got up, but sufficed to say crust gets in the way, and if that goes with having a thick base then eww

Chicago Deep Dish. Nothing comes close.
Not just any Chicago Deep Dish. Ginos East of Chicago makes the best pizza in the world, hands down.

White.

White.

Seconded.. :)

Yes, of course it is of earthshattering importance, but -- which is best?


there's no sauce like hunger

I like all pizza! Though I'm not a huge fan of ham and pineapple...I'll eat it but it would never be my first choice.

Yet another proof that Yanks can and will ruin everything they get their hands on

Italian pizza, people! Italian!

Not just any Chicago Deep Dish. Ginos East of Chicago makes the best pizza in the world, hands down.

Try 'Bella Napoli' in Riva del Garda, Italy

I won't say they make the best pizzas in the world, cause I've not had pizzas everywhere yet, but they make them nothing short of heavenly

Yet another proof that Yanks can and will ruin everything they get their hands on

Italian pizza, people! Italian!
How is it ruined if Americans almost unanimously love pizza the way it is prepared in America? Maybe you won't like it, but if you don't live in America anyway, what's the problem? It's not like I'm going to say that British weirdos (that's weirdos in Britain, not identifying Brits as weirdos) "ruined beer" by serving it warm. :P

Yet another proof that Yanks can and will ruin everything they get their hands on

Italian pizza, people! Italian!

Our pizza barely resembles the stuff Italian immigrants brought with them to New York 100 years ago... theirs was basically a little mozarella on what was basically toast..

try it on a grill in a cast iron pan---perfect!:cool:

Yet another proof that Yanks can and will ruin everything they get their hands on

Italian pizza, people! Italian!

Not just any Chicago Deep Dish. Ginos East of Chicago makes the best pizza in the world, hands down.

Gino's East of Chicago, eh? I'll keep that in mind when I hit Chi-Town.

no. http://foodpages.ca/itemimmgs/20000_1_1_Crispy_Thin-Crust_Appetizer_Pizza_1098876653.jpg

and i don't want my pizza with inch-deep toppings, thats not what pizza's about... its a delicious flavour anyway, and a balance of flavours between the tomato and the cheese (which is how even a margharita still tastes delicious dispite it being so "plain"). i don't know what i'm saying cos i only just got up, but sufficed to say crust gets in the way, and if that goes with having a thick base then eww

You've obviously never had authentic Chicago Deep Dish. :p

Thin crusts! With Parmesan on top.

Parmesan, I tell you!

Thin crusts! With Parmesan on top.

Parmesan, I tell you!

*SLAP*

Deep Dish forever!!!

*SLAP*

Deep Dish forever!!!

Never! Thin crusts are the only sstyle of pizza, godless infidel! May the god of Parmesan smite ye down for such blasphemy!

Never! Thin crusts are the only sstyle of pizza, godless infidel! May the god of Parmesan smite ye down for such blasphemy!

*gunshot*

*gunshot*

Chest...hurting...covered in....pizza sauce?

*Tastes*

Eck, needs...needs more....parmesan...

*Flails about for parmesan, collapses*

Chest...hurting...covered in....pizza sauce?

*Tastes*

Eck, needs...needs more....parmesan...

*Flails about for parmesan, collapses*

Who said I shot you?

If you can't make your own pizza dough and toss it yourself, then you've never actually had pizza.

Incidently, and I'll give you 2 free pizza secrets:

1] Dehydrate and mince mushrooms and add it to the dough.

2] If there's no crust (ie: the wafer thin NY style blandness), then there is nothing to dip in the buttery garlicy sauce all pizza must come with.

Now ... back to your rantings.

If you can't make your own pizza dough and toss it yourself, then you've never actually had pizza.

Incidently, and I'll give you 2 free pizza secrets:

1] Dehydrate and mince mushrooms and add it to the dough.

2] If there's no crust (ie: the wafer thin NY style blandness), then there is nothing to dip in the buttery garlicy sauce all pizza must come with.

Now ... back to your rantings.

Buttery...garlic...sauce?

i never imagined people being so chauvinist about food, but i guess i'm not surprised :/

Buttery...garlic...sauce?

Yes ... melt a stick of butter, add about 10 cloves of minced garlic, dip pizza crust.

There is really no such thing as too much garlic.

Yes ... melt a stick of butter, add about 10 cloves of minced garlic, dip pizza crust.

There is really no such thing as too much garlic.

*froth*

Out of those choices, I prefer Chicago style, because I'm a fan of crust, but Chicago and New York styles are kind of the extreme ends of the spectrum.

My favorite pizza is very thick, but not true deep dish, with tons of cheese, but still very easy to manage eating with just fingers (deep dish is quite a challenge without a knife and fork). I like the Pizza at Blondie's in Berkeley a lot.

Some of the best pizza ever was served at Chef Romano's in Alameda, CA. It was a local business, but it's been gone for quite a while.

Out of those choices, I prefer Chicago style, because I'm a fan of crust, but Chicago and New York styles are kind of the extreme ends of the spectrum.

My favorite pizza is very thick, but not true deep dish, with tons of cheese, but still very easy to manage eating with just fingers (deep dish is quite a challenge without a knife and fork).

Agreed. I'm not sure why people like to go with the extremes on this issue. Like politics, it's best to be moderate in your approach to pizza. :cool:

(true deep dish is impossible to eat without a knife and fork)Corrected :p

Corrected :p

That's true... If you have the hands of a midget. :p

Corrected :p

I've actually eaten deep dish pizza with my hands before. It was extremely messy, and I probably really embarrassed my parents. But I was in sixth grade, so I didn't realize that. I never tried to do it again though, it's much too difficult, and requires too many of those paper napkins to clean up. :D

Where are the folded calzone pizzas?? What is this madness? You call yourselves pizza lovers?

That's true... If you have the hands of a midget. :pConnie's has a deep dish with dough lattice work on the top (like a classic apple pie). It's about two inches thick, and utterly impossible to eat without silverwear.

Of course, it's one of those where you'll only have 3 slices. If you're really hungry.

Where are the folded calzone pizzas?? What is this madness? You call yourselves pizza lovers?

Those technically aren't "pizzas".

Connie's has a deep dish with dough lattice work on the top (like a classic apple pie). It's about two inches thick, and utterly impossible to eat without silverwear.

Of course, it's one of those where you'll only have 3 slices. If you're really hungry.

Ah, I've heard about those. I think I saw one on the Food Network.

They are absolutely amazing. A basil and olive oil basting on the lattice... mmm...

Those technically aren't "pizzas".
Technically theyre the same as any other pizza, just..... folded over....

Technically theyre the same as any other pizza, just..... folded over....

Which negates the "pizza" aspect.

And on another note, I'm pleased that this thread got stickied. :D

(Indirect) claim to fame: my grandfather Thomas Morley ran one of the first pizza companies in England (called Pizza Products). Somewhere we have a cut-out of a magazine article comparing the five pizza companies that existed in London at the time - it said that 'the Morley method' made the best pizzas.

Pizza should be how the Italians intended it. Thin all the way. I'd rather taste toppings instead of bread.

Pizza should be how the Italians intended it. Thin all the way. I'd rather taste toppings instead of bread.
Wrong. Pizza should be however it tastes good. Whether that's thin or not is up to the consumer :P

Pizza should be how the Italians intended it. Thin all the way. I'd rather taste toppings instead of bread.

I don't think you're getting the point. Real deep dish is all about filling. Yeah, the crust is thick compared to "default" pizza, but there's so much more in the way of sauce, toppings, and cheese that it doesn't matter.

Pizza should be however it tastes good. Whether that's thin or not is up to the consumer :P

This is one of the fundamental principles of life itself.

How come this got stickied?

How come this got stickied?

It's a thread about pizza, dude. How the fuck could it not get stickied?

I don't think you're getting the point. Real deep dish is all about filling. Yeah, the crust is thick compared to "default" pizza, but there's so much more in the way of sauce, toppings, and cheese that it doesn't matter.

Thats the problem with the deep dish the toppings overload and it becomes way to rich and all the subtle flavours are lost. I mean I've worked making both and I prefer making and eating pizza in its origional form

Thats the problem with the deep dish the toppings overload and it becomes way to rich and all the subtle flavours are lost. I mean I've worked making both and I prefer making and eating pizza in its origional form

Oh, there's plenty of subtlety to real Chicago Deep Dish. It just has to be made right.

Wrong. Pizza should be however it tastes good. Whether that's thin or not is up to the consumer :P

this is all opinion. I didn't think I really needed to put IMO at the start of everything but hey

It's a thread about pizza, dude. How the fuck could it not get stickied?
Fair enough *retreats to cave*

Oh, there's plenty of subtlety to real Chicago Deep Dish. It just has to be made right.

I just don't think it can be properly appreciated, mainly because I can't in comparison to a properly made thin stone baked pizza

I don't suppose anyone else here likes a few jalapeños to top off the not-thin-but-not-thick crust baked to a golden perfection, olive oil, basil, smooth tomato sauce, pepperoni, and a four-cheese blend. Yes? No? Maybe so?

I think a lot of pizza appreciation ahs to do with the situation and circumstances under which you're eating it. For example I love all kinds of pizzas (I'm something of an eclectic when it comes to pizza :D) but I will always and forever look back with most fondness on two kinds of pizza:

1. Pizza Hut pizza. Me and my friends were having a bit of a bash round mine with Xbox games and all kinds of madness, and at some point in the proceedings someone suggested we ordered pizza. So we did. From Pizza Hut. And we arsed about and watched a film while we ate it. And it was fantastical. So I'll always have fond memories of Pizza Hut pizza (Dominoes also counts for this, but slightly less so)

2. Some random little pizza place in Zel Am Zee in Austria. It was on the school skiing trip (which I have plently of fond memories of anyway, but I won't digress) and once when me and some friends were wandering around town we stumbled upon this lil' gem. We were all hungry so we went in, and ordered a pizza. We didn't have that much money so we had to share one pizza between about five of us, but it was great - the banter, the friendly Austrians, the good service, the chilis on top (which were painfully hot but sooooo good) and everything about it.

Maybe not everyone's receptacle of heated beverage, but you probably would've had to be there to truly appreciate it.

Incidentally I voted Chain Pizzas on the poll because, for some reason, there was no 'random little pizza place in a tiny little village in Austria' option. I think this problem should be addressed in future pizza threads :D

Thin delicate crispy crust, dripping with olive oil, slathered with a moderate amount of sauce, about 5 pounds of veggies, and another pound or 2 of cheeses. Sprinkle with hot peppers and mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Thin and crispy 100%

Italian pizza. Thin crust, and flavour! What's the point of a pizza if it's all paste and no flavour? You have to be able to savour a pizza, the mix of tomato sauce and oregon... Mmmm...

American pizzas aren't bad occasionally, but they don't come close to the goodness of Italian ones.

New York Style.

Sicilain Style (*adds it to poll :p) - but from the options above: Chicaaaago!

neopolitan

American pizzas aren't bad occasionally, but they don't come close to the goodness of Italian ones.

Ever had real Chicago Deep Dish? From the looks of it, you haven't. :p

frechetta(sp?)

Why the hell has this been stickied? Shouldnt this really be in the jolt spam forum anyway?

Why the hell has this been stickied? Shouldnt this really be in the jolt spam forum anyway?

Seconded. Why is a random thread about pizzas being stickied? If one has to be stickied, why not an important one on, oh I don't know, ID vs Evolution, or Iraq? Why Pizza?

Seconded. Why is a random thread about pizzas being stickied? If one has to be stickied, why not an important one on, oh I don't know, ID vs Evolution, or Iraq? Why Pizza?

or the chuck norris thread. i mean come on, its chuck norris. thats sticky worthy... :D

Yes ... melt a stick of butter, add about 10 cloves of minced garlic, dip pizza crust.

If you have to have a separate sauce, then the pizza isn't done right. A good pizza is saucy (and really, really garlicy) on its own.

If you have to have a separate sauce, then the pizza isn't done right. A good pizza is saucy (and really, really garlicy) on its own.

No no no, he's talking about dipping the left over pizza crust in the garlic sauce. It's made for deep dish pizzas.

Thin pizza - ewwww!

Thick, tomatoy goodness. That's what I want!

No no no, he's talking about dipping the left over pizza crust in the garlic sauce. It's made for deep dish pizzas.

Oh, OK. Now I get it.

If you can't make your own pizza dough and toss it yourself, then you've never actually had pizza.

Incidently, and I'll give you 2 free pizza secrets:

1] Dehydrate and mince mushrooms and add it to the dough.

2] If there's no crust (ie: the wafer thin NY style blandness), then there is nothing to dip in the buttery garlicy sauce all pizza must come with.

Now ... back to your rantings.

Dip it in garlic butter!? BLASPHEMY!!!

There is really no such thing as too much garlic.

Ok, THAT I can agree with....

I don't suppose anyone else here likes a few jalapeños to top off the not-thin-but-not-thick crust baked to a golden perfection, olive oil, basil, smooth tomato sauce, pepperoni, and a four-cheese blend. Yes? No? Maybe so?

Jalapeños are too hot for me -- but I don't mind banana peppers or pepperonicini.

I don't care, as long as it's 22" wide.

Why the hell has this been stickied? Shouldnt this really be in the jolt spam forum anyway?


It was not stickied, nor was that the title, when I went to sleep at 2am.
I suspect MOD TAMPERING!!!! OMGWTFLOL!

Jalapeños are too hot for me -- but I don't mind banana peppers or pepperonicini.
Jalapenos are NOT hot unless you are crying and begging God to have mercy on your mouth. At which case everyone will laugh because it only happens to you for some odd reason. :confused:

I have had all the pizza known to man and I have to say New York. And yes I have had Italian pizza in a restraunt in Italy.

Dip it in garlic butter!? BLASPHEMY!!!

So what would you dip the left over bread in? :p

I hate to say it but whoever said we do beer wrong in this country due to serving it warm I have this to say to you

most of american 'beer' isn't beer its larger and not very good larger at that

sorry I hate it when americans make fun of british beer which is supposed to be served at room temperature because of how its brewed, especially as they have started to taint simpletons over here (chilled guiness ar you mad!!!)

sorry back to pizza, should be thin really but not just be a biscuit, shouldn't have too much topping on just enough though of course you can just go mad and have a greenpeace

I've never actually tried deep-dish pizza, although it sounds excellent.

I would vote for "Any pizza that's not frozen, crappy (fast-food style, or with bad toppings), or made with English muffins"

larger
lol.

if that lol was in response to the spelling

i'm dyspraxic which means I can't spell very well especially words i'm unfamilliar with.

Gimme a thick, deep dish chicago pizza with everything but mushrooms on it. Mmmmm.

*Cough! COUGH!*

The thin crispy crust is NOT new york style. It is very definitely proper italian style. I guess the new yorkers have it too, in which case it is new york style for the americans.

But, thin crispy crust. Aye, it is the best! meant to be rolled up and eaten like a rolled up piece of pizza. I mean, the pizza itself is meant to be too thin to be eaten without rolling it up (otherwise, it is supposed to fall apart).

This is truly a question that will change the fate of the galaxy... I envy whoever was so intelligent to come up with it... They should be worshipped as a god or something...

I went to Italy and had thick crust. Oh well.

I'd have to say, I like thick crust with pineapple...YUM!! Also, when I went to Italy I had a pizza with cheese, pineapple, and slices of brie. THE most delicious pizza EVER. <3

"When pizza is good, it's very very good. When pizza is bad, it's still pretty good."

it shouldn't be rolled up that is a seperate type of food all together

brie and pinapple and thick crust, in italy

out out vile heritic:)

It was not stickied, nor was that the title, when I went to sleep at 2am.
I suspect MOD TAMPERING!!!! OMGWTFLOL!I'm sure I didn't do it by editing the first post...



I went to Italy and had thick crust. Oh well.

I'd have to say, I like thick crust with pineapple...YUM!! Also, when I went to Italy I had a pizza with cheese, pineapple, and slices of brie. THE most delicious pizza EVER.Aside from the fact that brie sucks, I'm sure it was pretty good, heh.

It was not stickied, nor was that the title, when I went to sleep at 2am.
I suspect MOD TAMPERING!!!! OMGWTFLOL!
...

:confused:

Seriously this is just wasting space. At least find a random thread that's actually quite long (like 10+ pages on 40ppp or something) to sticky.

Chain pizza all the way! I'll mess up anyone who argues! :sniper:
seriously though. its cheap, fast and tasty. what more could you want?

Wait....isn't this an abuse of mod-powers? Stickying a thread like this? I mean...at least make it about sex or something...sheesh!

Chain pizza all the way! I'll mess up anyone who argues! :sniper:
seriously though. its cheap, fast and tasty. what more could you want?
This must be a joke.

Many words can be used to describe chain pizza, like cardboard or tasteless. Tasty isn't one of them.

Oh for the convenience of delivery. I like the smaller pizza chains. After enough hunting I finally found one that fit all of my requirements. Fast, cheap and offers white sauce as a substitution for marinara. Oh yeah, and the people who take our orders aren't complete idiots. I'm not picky.

Thick, deep crust (depth is more important that thickness though). That has had the grease form the cheese soak in just a little, enough to slightly fry and crisp the bottom, but the rest bready instead of gushy. *drools*

Ive got an italian foreign exchange student living at my house, and he swears by deep dish pizza. proving once and for all--nothing beats the deep-dish.

:rolleyes:

Probably someone already said this, but I didn't feel like scouring this thread.

"Pizza is like sex. . .even when it's bad, it's pretty good."

Usually I'm all for the thin crust, coated in at least three types of cheeses, pepperoni, salami, saugage, tomatoes, mushrooms, pineapple, and olives. Oh, and make the crust spicy for a nice kick.

However, right now I'd settle for ANY pizza that doesn't come with corn or mayo mixed into the crust, and then more mayo for dipping.

Let me point out that when your speaking about pizza, your talking about a "PIE". A "pizza pie". Have you ever seen a "pie" whose width is less then that of a wafer like NYC style? No. I vote for the Chicago style, nothing like it.

On a side note, the people of Jey have their own pizza style--Jevian Pizza. This pizza has...roughly a 2 feet thickness, 1 foot of which is dominated by the bread, and 1 foot the toppings. Sure, its well over 20,000 calories, but we're fine with consuming this monster of a pie.

i never imagined people being so chauvinist about food, but i guess i'm not surprised :/

WTF?!? Someone must be a feminist in here!

Why is this stickied?

...and with respect to my intended, I have to admit, Chicago deep dish rules!

Not that there's a problem with the NY thin pizza - far from it - but gimme a pizza I can sink my teeth into proper, with enough cheese, tomatoes, sauce and other stuff to make it a proper pizza pie, thanks!

Mmmmmm... deep, decadent, delicious, desirable dish pizza.... :-D

And for those who say Italian all the way, meaning no disrespect, but this is one area I think American "re-invention" may just top the original...

Mmh... Pizza!

Actually, I don't care for which kind that much - main issue being: It's pizza!

...and with respect to my intended, I have to admit, Chicago deep dish rules!

Not that there's a problem with the NY thin pizza - far from it - but gimme a pizza I can sink my teeth into proper, with enough cheese, tomatoes, sauce and other stuff to make it a proper pizza pie, thanks!

Mmmmmm... deep, decadent, delicious, desirable dish pizza.... :-D

And for those who say Italian all the way, meaning no disrespect, but this is one area I think American "re-invention" may just top the original...


....and thus begins the Katganistanian-Carterwayan Pizza War.....
;)

Always going forward cuz we can't find reverse!

We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill!

;)

....and thus begins the Katganistanian-Carterwayan Pizza War.....
;)

To paraphrase from Churchill...

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Chicago and NYC, we shall fight on the mozzarella and the parmesan, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength on the oregano and garlic and mushrooms, we shall defend our sauce, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the hot Italian sausage, we shall fight on the pepperoni, we shall fight in the brick oven and in the dough, we shall fight even for the ham and pineapple; we shall never surrender!

We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill!

;)
It's worse than that, it's physics Jim!

So what would you dip the left over bread in? :p

You eat 'em NEKKID, as god intended....




(or you toss 'em)

this doesn't belong stickied...it's not an announcement, a valuable resource, or anything like that. It's a debate about pizza, but still, it's a debate about pizza. This is ridiculous. :/

Thick.

Everything is always better thick.

You know those 3 pegged thingies that come in the pizza box, what are they for?

DAMN!

I just got a Pizza from Gumby's in East Lansing, MI, and it's fuckin HUGE!

I wish I had a camera.

You know those 3 pegged thingies that come in the pizza box, what are they for?
they're to prevent the pizza box top from sagging onto the pizza or something like that

they're to prevent the pizza box top from sagging onto the pizza or something like that
Bulkshipt!

Cardboard boxes dont sag!

I really would like to know who unsticked this.

Kat will not be pleased.

Bulkshipt!

Cardboard boxes dont sag!
if things are stacked on top of them, they do :P

You know those 3 pegged thingies that come in the pizza box, what are they for?

To keep the cheese from sticking to the inside of the pizza box by preventing crush damage to said box.

I really would like to know who unsticked this.

Kat will not be pleased.

Kat unsticked it. ;) Kat never intended for it to be sticked in the first place, and 24 hrs is PLENTY long enough.

Besides, as it stands, thin crust wins by a narrow margin. ;)

Thick deep dish pie (Chicago Style) 68 35.98%
Thin, crispy crust (New York Style) 75 39.68%
Chain pizza (Domino's, Pizza Hut, Papa John's) 33 17.46%
I hate pizza 13 6.88%

Please never speak about yourself in the 3rd person.

It makes you sound like Mr. T.

Which is bad.

Please never speak about yourself in the 3rd person.

It makes you sound like Mr. T.

Which is bad.

Kat pities the fool who confuses her with Mr. T! Mr. T has more jewelry than Kat can ever afford! Kat also does not wear her hair in a mandingo haircut! Kat would look RIDICULOUS like that!


*kicks in door, shoots LOTS of rounds into crowded forum, hits absolutely NO ONE.*

Kat pities the fool who confuses her with Mr. T! Mr. T has more jewelry than Kat can ever afford! Kat also does not wear her hair in a mandingo haircut! Kat would look RIDICULOUS like that!


*kicks in door, shoots LOTS of rounds into crowded forum, hits absolutely NO ONE.*

*points*

Case in point.