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Eye for an Eye? Your opinion on what to do after being attacked...

Kriegorgrad
19-11-2005, 13:31
Hey,

I was on't way home with some friends, myself and four others. Then all of a sudden, some fucking chav hits me in the side of the jaw, and I can't do a fucking thing, due to the numbers of them, anyway, my friends and I went our separate ways and the thre girls got spat on by some chav scum, and me and my mate Ross had to take physical fucking abuse. Now don't get me wrong, we ain't the small types, but the thing is, there were so many of them.

I live in a small town, so this shouldn't happen, and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.

Now, I'm going to ask you what to do.


Should I...

P.S I live in a small town and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.
German Nightmare
19-11-2005, 13:36
Now that sucks. Been there, too...

Here the cops couldn't do shit 'cause I didn't even know the guy.

If you have enough witnesses, sue the shit out of him.

(I pretty much rule out option #1 but hey, whatever floats you boat!)
Dictator 1
19-11-2005, 13:38
Neither, you should follow them sneakily one by one, and find out where they live, store this information and then take 'em one one by one, when they think they are alone....
Kriegorgrad
19-11-2005, 13:41
I know a few of their names, so the police idea is good... In fact the police are coming round soon, so I'm all for the "both" idea of getting them done, then fucking them up.
ClasUtopi
19-11-2005, 13:47
EYE FOR AN EYE!! literally
Zooke
19-11-2005, 13:48
I know a few of their names, so the police idea is good... In fact the police are coming round soon, so I'm all for the "both" idea of getting them done, then fucking them up.

Let the police handle it. Otherwise, after you go after them they will be bound to retaliate and go after you, then you get even, then they get even....you get the picture. It will end up with all of you in trouble with the authorities so let them take it over now and save yourself some lumps and jail time. It doesn't make you appear weak, but smart.
Qutri
19-11-2005, 13:48
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P
Zooke
19-11-2005, 13:51
EYE FOR AN EYE!! literally

The "eye for an eye" rule was in response to legal issues concerning property rights and property damage. It was not in answer to physical violence.
Kurai Nami
19-11-2005, 13:54
Let the police handle it. Otherwise, after you go after them they will be bound to retaliate and go after you, then you get even, then they get even....you get the picture. It will end up with all of you in trouble with the authorities so let them take it over now and save yourself some lumps and jail time. It doesn't make you appear weak, but smart.

I agree with Zooke, do not turn up the violence. Use that grey matter instead, i hope you get the justice you seek.

As for "An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind" it was Ghandi whom said it, clever man that..
Kriegorgrad
19-11-2005, 13:55
The "eye for an eye" rule was in response to legal issues concerning property rights and property damage. It was not in answer to physical violence.

I understand your sentiments but have you ever been attacked? The feelings it leaves inside you? Jesus, I want nothing more than to do to them exactly what the did to me, seriously.

I'll probably come round to your way of thinking sometime, but for now, I agree with ClasUtopi... But if the police don't do anything, the law is going to be taken into my own hands.
Uldarious
19-11-2005, 13:56
It was Gandi who said that Qutri.
I think in all honesty you should mess them up or at least show that you aren't going to take it, if it is indeeed a small town then the people will know the trouble makers reputation so you should be able to get away with it, if not that at least do something, these people just try to make themselves feel better by victimising people.
Kriegorgrad
19-11-2005, 14:00
It was Gandi who said that Qutri.
I think in all honesty you should mess them up or at least show that you aren't going to take it, if it is indeeed a small town then the people will know the trouble makers reputation so you should be able to get away with it, if not that at least do something, these people just try to make themselves feel better by victimising people.

I'll definitely keep that in mind, thanks Uldarious.
Zooke
19-11-2005, 14:05
I understand your sentiments but have you ever been attacked? The feelings it leaves inside you? Jesus, I want nothing more than to do to them exactly what the did to me, seriously.

I'll probably come round to your way of thinking sometime, but for now, I agree with ClasUtopi... But if the police don't do anything, the law is going to be taken into my own hands.

Yes, I have. I was raped a few years ago. My first response was to stalk and kill the man. But, I reasoned, if I did that would it make the pain and humiliation go away or would it lower me to his level? I let the legal system handle him and spent my time putting my life back together. Suppose you do seek revenge, and then in turn they go after one of the girls in your group of friends. Considering the cowardly way they attacked you, they probably wouldn't have any problem in retaliating against a weaker member of your group. Would your revenge be worth that? Put aside the desire for revenge and instead seek justice. That is a mark of the difference between being a man and a boy. Be a man!
China3
19-11-2005, 14:08
Neither. Sue him off all his wordlyposessions
also claim mental &psych trauma
Zooke
19-11-2005, 14:11
Your first instincts right now are in reaction to a wrongful deed. Reaction is almost always the wrong response. Logical well-thought action is the best response to any situation. Don't act on your emotions, but on your logic.
Bersabia
19-11-2005, 14:34
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P

Ghandi
The mighty Tim
19-11-2005, 14:35
I got attacked by some chavs once, they laid into a close friend of mine for no reason and when my brother and I tried to break it up, we got punched for. Miraculously I didn't get hurt much at all (Divine intervention???), but I still wanted revenge.

SIX months later the police got round to doing a line-up, by which time I had forgotten what the culprits looked like, so there were no charges.

I think you should let the police deal with it if they can, but don't let the vengence twist you up inside. Then you'd be no better than the assailants are.


(by the way, I REALLY hate chavs!)
Zooke
19-11-2005, 14:36
(by the way, I REALLY hate chavs!)

Educate an older person. What the heck is a chav? Is it a term for gang banger or what?
Tocoria
19-11-2005, 14:51
Hmm......maybe what you should do is wait fro it to happen again, and when it does, start beating on as many of them as you can. Even though they have greater numbers, If you beat up as many of them as possible that might said them a message.

If not, since it sounded like they were part of a gang, just march into their turf with as many friends as you can and beat the hell out of those scummers. I hate it when crime goes unpunished, and when kids and teens go to the police because they were beat on, they usually dont get as much justice as they deserve...
GhostEmperor
19-11-2005, 14:53
Let the law handle this. As corrupt and inefficient as they may be, and as much as I support vengeance of all kinds, this matter should be resolved lawfully. Seeing them waste away in jail is far more rewarding in the long run than seeing their broken bodies covered in blood as you get hauled away to jail. Plus, if they find out you actually asked other people whether or not to do this, you'll be in even bigger trouble than they will.

If our country were fair, I'd say go out and beat the hell outta them. But that's not how things are these days. Go to the police; otherwise, you might get in more trouble than they will.
Kamsaki
19-11-2005, 15:04
Don't just "Let" the law handle it though. Explain to them your situation and, unless anything is done, explain to them that you wish to follow the nation's example and use anti-terror laws to imprison them indefinately without arrest up to 28 days. That should perk them into doing something.
Great Britain---
19-11-2005, 15:11
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P
I was going to say somehting like that, beat me to it. :mad: :p
Kriegorgrad
19-11-2005, 15:15
Yes, I have. I was raped a few years ago. My first response was to stalk and kill the man. But, I reasoned, if I did that would it make the pain and humiliation go away or would it lower me to his level? I let the legal system handle him and spent my time putting my life back together. Suppose you do seek revenge, and then in turn they go after one of the girls in your group of friends. Considering the cowardly way they attacked you, they probably wouldn't have any problem in retaliating against a weaker member of your group. Would your revenge be worth that? Put aside the desire for revenge and instead seek justice. That is a mark of the difference between being a man and a boy. Be a man!


Wow, that's amazingly strong of you. And very smart, it turns out I did stay the cause of police intervention, it turns out the little fuckers were on their last warning, so it may well go to court. However, if that fails, say hello to a pack of chav hating 50+ goths and friends...
Deep Kimchi
19-11-2005, 15:52
Hey,

I was on't way home with some friends, myself and four others. Then all of a sudden, some fucking chav hits me in the side of the jaw, and I can't do a fucking thing, due to the numbers of them, anyway, my friends and I went our separate ways and the thre girls got spat on by some chav scum, and me and my mate Ross had to take physical fucking abuse. Now don't get me wrong, we ain't the small types, but the thing is, there were so many of them.

I live in a small town, so this shouldn't happen, and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.

Now, I'm going to ask you what to do.


Should I...

P.S I live in a small town and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.


You live in the UK, so any advice I give to you that would be perfectly legal where I'm living would be completely illegal there.

So, I'll have to refrain from giving you advice.
Alidor
19-11-2005, 16:05
Not so long ago a little chav shit kicked the wing mirror of my car because his mam hadn’t cooked the vegetables for his Sunday dinner properly.
The little shite was ordered to pay fifty pounds compensation; which I haven’t seen yet and probably never will and he as yet to turn up to one of his counselling sessions he was supposed to do, and nothing is being done, so yeah I feel that the law has worked for me.

On another note a friend of mine had the same thing done to him except he kicked the living shit out of the two chav arseholes and ended up being threatened with prison from the police. So really whatever you do you’ll not get justice
Randomlittleisland
19-11-2005, 16:16
Educate an older person. What the heck is a chav? Is it a term for gang banger or what?

Three ways to identify a chave:
-someone wearing sports clothing (adidas, nike, etc.) and often 'bling' (cheap and tacky) jewelery.
-if male, walking with a swagger as if their balls are to big for their legs to swing normally (if you'll pardon the simile).
-very loud, annoying voices, exeptionally poor elocution and grammar.

Get two of these signs and they're almost certainly a chav. They're widely hated by most other teenagers (including me). I think it might be a purely British term but I'm not sure.
Randomlittleisland
19-11-2005, 16:18
In response to the poll, I'd say leave it to the police unless it becomes clear that they can't or won't act.
The Elder Malaclypse
19-11-2005, 16:20
Here's my idea- the next time you bump into them tell them that you really enjoyed their company and ask them if they'd like to frolic in a park sometime. OK, its not a great idea but its all i've got to offer.
GoodThoughts
19-11-2005, 16:25
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P

Ghandi.
Randomlittleisland
19-11-2005, 16:30
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P

Arnold Schwarzeneger?
Vetalia
19-11-2005, 16:31
Go to the police first, and if that doesn't work hunt them down with a group of friends and take out your own brand of justice on them. The only way people like that learn is if they get their asses handed to them, either by the legal system (preferable) or by a group of pissed off people.
OntheRIGHTside
19-11-2005, 16:33
Summon hellspawn.
Vetalia
19-11-2005, 16:37
Summon hellspawn.

For some reason, I could see that turning out very badly for everyone...
Northern Qwlghm
19-11-2005, 16:40
Be smart. Get the whole thing on film, and offer it up as evidence as well as sell it for news value. You'll provide the evidence necessary to put the chavs away and clear yourself of any countercharges they might file. There's plenty of websites that pay for such videos, especially if the area is currently in the news, like the Paris riots. The smart thing to do is make the system work for you, however inefficient or corrupt it might be. And though it might be the furtherest thing on your mind, it doesn't hurt to make a few clams while you do it. :cool:
Tokagowa
19-11-2005, 17:01
If you want to get even and you have quite a bit of stamina what you could do is wait for it to happen again. Then if you are capable of doing it then run a way but don't do it so fast that they can't keep up, just fast enough to make sure they can't catch you but slow enough that they will follow. Then you can either take out the one that is fastest which will be in the lead or make them follow you into a narrow corridor or ally, doesn't really matter as long as they can't come at you with more than one person at a time because of the small area.
The Jovian Moons
19-11-2005, 17:25
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
not really that only works if half the world is a bunch of eye taking out maniacs. In reallity an eye for an eye makes two people pirates and since global warming is becoming a problem we need pirates to bing down the temperature. http://www.seanbonner.com/blog/archives/001857.php
Katganistan
19-11-2005, 17:28
I know a few of their names, so the police idea is good... In fact the police are coming round soon, so I'm all for the "both" idea of getting them done, then fucking them up.

Bad idea. Do YOU need a record for assault?
Katganistan
19-11-2005, 17:28
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P
Ghandi.
Ayroth
19-11-2005, 18:18
Rule of Revenge: Do unto others as they have done unto you.

Golden Rule of Revenge: Do unto others as they tried to do unto you.

If someone tries to kill you because they want to end your life, end theirs. If someone tries to take something personal from you, take something personal of theirs. I used to get jumped everyday before I started working out and getting stronger. Everyone I knew told me to let the police handle it. I gave those bastards six months, so I said screw it, and hunted the mother fuckers down. You know, it felt great to hear them beg for mercy. I beat them so bad they will never consider hurting me again.

A year later, I met my girlfriend, we started going out. Well, one night, she goes off to this party that I wasnt told about. One of my buds calls up and asks me why I aint there. I told him, I wasnt told about it. He says I should come anyway. So I do, and as soon as I pull up, I smell weed. I look in through the window, and see a couple guys getting my girl high on what I thought was Ecstasy or GHB. I knew what those do to people, and kicked in the door, pulled the guy making out with my girl off her, and beat him so hard he never knew what hit him. Then I beat his friends up, threw them out windows. (I can bench 230 lbs. and squat 240 lbs.) I took my girl home. I hope for those punks lives that they never try that again.
Ifreann
19-11-2005, 18:24
Educate an older person. What the heck is a chav? Is it a term for gang banger or what?

chavs=english scumbags,generally in tracksuits and (fake)burberry everything.you know the barrel?well when someone scraped the whole way through,chavs are what was underneath.
Pyotr
19-11-2005, 18:25
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P

Ghandi said that and i agree it just creates and endless cycle of violence
Voxio
19-11-2005, 18:34
I'd give the cops some time to work...if they don't do anything and I don't have enough for a lawsuit I'd take my revenge. One of the greatest feelings I know is taking revenge on somebody by beating the crap out of them.

And an eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind, it just screws with their depth perception.
Liverbreath
19-11-2005, 18:37
I agree with Zooke, do not turn up the violence. Use that grey matter instead, i hope you get the justice you seek.

As for "An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind" it was Ghandi whom said it, clever man that..

Yes, so clever he made his enemy his bodyguard, who killed him. Very smart fella.
Vetalia
19-11-2005, 18:40
Ghandi said that and i agree it just creates and endless cycle of violence

Not if you so totally destroy the aggressor's will to fight and their means to do so that they do not want to ever attempt war again.
Ifreann
19-11-2005, 18:40
Yes, so clever he made his enemy his bodyguard, who killed him. Very smart fella.

dont mess with the gandhi,he'll sit there and not kick your ass.
OntheRIGHTside
19-11-2005, 18:42
Not if you so totally destroy the aggressor's will to fight and their means to do so that they do not want to ever attempt war again.

I didn't know being an a**hole was a good thing. Usually it makes others hate you, where coming to peaceful, intelligent agreements as opposed to resorting to barbarism would make others view you as wise.
Ifreann
19-11-2005, 18:46
I didn't know being an a**hole was a good thing. Usually it makes others hate you, where coming to peaceful, intelligent agreements as opposed to resorting to barbarism would make others view you as wise.

war?this is about whether to take revenge on a bunch of chavs or not.

although,going to war with chavs........
Plookie
19-11-2005, 19:09
Acting like Gandhi isn't going to help when they're kicking your ass kicked and they're spitting on your girlfriends. On the other hand, seeking violent retribution is a great way to get thrown in the slammer.
Personally, I'd tell the police, and while not having much faith in them, I'd wrack my brain, and find some horrible, devious, personal, and maybe even legal, means of revenge.
Amecian
19-11-2005, 19:17
war?this is about whether to take revenge on a bunch of chavs or not.

although,going to war with chavs........

Sign me up! :p So long as you help the USians rid themselves of posers.{:rolleyes: :p }
Ayroth
20-11-2005, 00:52
Thats the greatest thing about imaginations, and having at least 6 hours of free time a day. I can think up horrifying ways to wreak vengeance on someone psychologically, without them finding out who did it. Like, I can record my voice when I'm doing my Chucky (possessed doll Chucky) impression, put it inside a Chucky doll my girlfriend has, and set it to laugh like a clown possessed by demons. That'll scare anyone to death.

Or, light a few candles in the persons room, then open the window so that the wind fans the flames. If it works like it should, then the person should wake up and think their rooms on fire.Or you can use hologram projectors. If you have 20,000 dollars though.
Secluded Islands
20-11-2005, 01:32
Hey,

I was on't way home with some friends, myself and four others. Then all of a sudden, some fucking chav hits me in the side of the jaw, and I can't do a fucking thing, due to the numbers of them, anyway, my friends and I went our separate ways and the thre girls got spat on by some chav scum, and me and my mate Ross had to take physical fucking abuse. Now don't get me wrong, we ain't the small types, but the thing is, there were so many of them.

I live in a small town, so this shouldn't happen, and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.

Now, I'm going to ask you what to do.


Should I...

P.S I live in a small town and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.

find the a$$holes and beat them down. dont let them get away with this. fuck morals, they deserve to get thier shit kicked.
SMODEERF
20-11-2005, 01:42
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P

That would be Gandhi :)
Nova Roma
20-11-2005, 01:47
Crucify the chavish bastards!
Uber Awesome
20-11-2005, 01:56
Hmmm... "an eye for an eye makes the world blind"? well better make sure they fail their first attempt to take your eye, and don't get a second.
Zooke
20-11-2005, 12:38
Wow, that's amazingly strong of you. And very smart, it turns out I did stay the cause of police intervention, it turns out the little fuckers were on their last warning, so it may well go to court. However, if that fails, say hello to a pack of chav hating 50+ goths and friends...

I'm really glad you decided to take the responsible approach. It sounds like they may spend some time with a new roommate, hopefully named Bubba.;) In the meantime, until things get done and in case they and their friends want retaliation, make sure that you and your friends travel in large groups. Not only for extra numbers in case they force a fight, but also as a deterrent to their wanting to take you on at all. Sounds like these guys are flaming cowards and they're probably not going to be interested in a fair match up.

No strength was involved in the way I handled my attack. First of all, I have a strong adversion to violence, so it is doubtful I could have carried out my initial desire for his untimely and extremely painful death by excessive blood loss. Second, I didn't want to lower myself to his level with senseless violence. Third, and most important, I have a family that needed me strong and capable...not some twitchy paranoid wreck sitting in a jail cell waiting for trial. They provided me with love, strength, and a sense of security and they gave me what I needed to handle what I needed to do.

Keep your nose clean and stay on the good side of the law. A clean record will boost your credibility when you meet these guys again in court and ship them off to their "new life". You did good, grasshopper.:D
Callisdrun
20-11-2005, 13:00
I agree with Zooke. Give the police some time to do their work, and give them any info that might help them get the nasty chavs.

Until the situation is resolved, try to travel in large groups. Walk tall, and get some steel-toed boots. Don't start a fight, but make sure that if the chavs start one with you, you're in a circumstance where you can defend yourself. I do like the sound of a little army of goths walking down the street in defiance of "chavs" (who sound a lot like some people we have here). Reminds me of my high school days... damn, that was fun.

Anyway, don't start any shit, but take no crap.
Zooke
20-11-2005, 13:03
Three ways to identify a chave:
-someone wearing sports clothing (adidas, nike, etc.) and often 'bling' (cheap and tacky) jewelery.
-if male, walking with a swagger as if their balls are to big for their legs to swing normally (if you'll pardon the simile).
-very loud, annoying voices, exeptionally poor elocution and grammar.

Get two of these signs and they're almost certainly a chav. They're widely hated by most other teenagers (including me). I think it might be a purely British term but I'm not sure.

chavs=english scumbags,generally in tracksuits and (fake)burberry everything.you know the barrel?well when someone scraped the whole way through,chavs are what was underneath.

thanks for the description. This leads me to a couple other questions. As these people seem to be disliked by the vast majority, why does anyone what to be a chav? And, with a very vivid mental picture of how these people dress and behave, who in their right mind would want to look like that? (This question from a woman who as a young girl thought she was a fashion statement with a micro-mini skirt, black fishnet stockings, and white go-go boots.:rolleyes: )
Zooke
20-11-2005, 13:05
I agree with Zooke. Give the police some time to do their work, and give them any info that might help them get the nasty chavs.

Until the situation is resolved, try to travel in large groups. Walk tall, and get some steel-toed boots. Don't start a fight, but make sure that if the chavs start one with you, you're in a circumstance where you can defend yourself. I do like the sound of a little army of goths walking down the street in defiance of "chavs" (who sound a lot like some people we have here). Reminds me of my high school days... damn, that was fun.

Anyway, don't start any shit, but take no crap.

Agreed!
HotRodia
20-11-2005, 13:11
Anyway, don't start any shit, but take no crap.

Mmmm. Interesting coincidence: that's my motto.

And what's up with people agreeing? This is General, not a Civil Rights Lovefest. :cool:
Zooke
20-11-2005, 13:17
Mmmm. Interesting coincidence: that's my motto.

And what's up with people agreeing? This is General, not a Civil Rights Lovefest. :cool:

Good question. What is up? Maybe because on general we've learned not to flame but to not back down from a good argument either?

Edit: General must be a training ground on how to handle civil disobedience.
Jello Biafra
20-11-2005, 13:18
Go with the police option.
I like the lawsuit idea. I also like the idea of getting a legal revenge if this one doesn't work.
In the future I'd recommend carrying pepper spray or the like.
Randomlittleisland
20-11-2005, 13:39
thanks for the description. This leads me to a couple other questions. As these people seem to be disliked by the vast majority, why does anyone what to be a chav? And, with a very vivid mental picture of how these people dress and behave, who in their right mind would want to look like that?

I suspect it's a mating signal but I could be wrong.
Potaria
20-11-2005, 13:41
Chavs? Oh, that's easy, then.

Grab a wooden bat (I guarantee the classic Louisville Slugger) and get to it.
Liskeinland
20-11-2005, 13:59
Chavs? Oh, that's easy, then.

Grab a wooden bat (I guarantee the classic Louisville Slugger) and get to it. There is some merit to that idea. a] Are chavs really likely to go to the police, and b] Are the police going to believe a chav?

The best thing is to carry a 2.9 inch blade (that's legal) on the streets, so you can stab a chav in "self-defence".
I suspect it's a mating signal but I could be wrong. What, like a baboon's blue arse?
Zooke
20-11-2005, 14:02
What, like a baboon's blue arse?

Y'all are just so bad! LMAO
Lunatic Goofballs
20-11-2005, 14:12
Hey,

I was on't way home with some friends, myself and four others. Then all of a sudden, some fucking chav hits me in the side of the jaw, and I can't do a fucking thing, due to the numbers of them, anyway, my friends and I went our separate ways and the thre girls got spat on by some chav scum, and me and my mate Ross had to take physical fucking abuse. Now don't get me wrong, we ain't the small types, but the thing is, there were so many of them.

I live in a small town, so this shouldn't happen, and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.

Now, I'm going to ask you what to do.


Should I...

P.S I live in a small town and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.

There are plenty of evil ways to exact vengeance upon the likes of them without getting caught. One doesn't always have to resort to violence. :)
Zooke
20-11-2005, 14:25
There are plenty of evil ways to exact vengeance upon the likes of them without getting caught. One doesn't always have to resort to violence. :)

You're by far the most creative in this area? Care to share some ideas? I might want to use a couple of them.
Kriegorgrad
20-11-2005, 23:44
Interesting comments all, but you can't really be in a circumstance in which you can defend yourself, thanks to their huge packs. You see, normal people don't need to move about in huge groups, but chavs seem to have the biological necessity to travel in a little clan of about 20 or so before they can do anything.

Goth army would be quite hilarious... But as said, I'm sticking with the police for now. They touch me again, they get locked up. Period.

EDIT: And I'm fascinated Goof Balls, tell!
Uber Awesome
20-11-2005, 23:51
thanks for the description. This leads me to a couple other questions. As these people seem to be disliked by the vast majority, why does anyone what to be a chav?

The majority of NS General types perhaps, but that only includes people who would be interested in as intellectual a topic as politics, and who don't type in txtspk. So, not really the majority of people in the country.
Eutrusca
20-11-2005, 23:53
"Eye for an Eye? Your opinion on what to do after being attacked... "

That would depend upon your belief system. If you're pacifistic, or a Christian, or a Buddist, retaliation would most likely be unacceptable. If on the other hand, you're a heathern like me, kick the shit outta the sombitch! :D
Neo Kervoskia
20-11-2005, 23:53
Take an eye for an eye, but wash your hands afterwards.
Kriegorgrad
20-11-2005, 23:54
In short.

Smart people = non-chavs

Dumb people (Often working class) = chavs

No exceptions can really be found.
Lionstone
20-11-2005, 23:55
Get the police to do it, if you are in Britain, they wont get anything but an ASBO.

BUT, when they try it again, automatic six months for breaching it. Not the most efficient system, but its the only way to get anything done without shooting all the lawyers and bent juries.

It is always better to let the police do it. They can use "reasonable force" legally. And since chavs are unreasonable, they promptly get a good batoning :P
Uber Awesome
20-11-2005, 23:56
In short.

Smart people = non-chavs

Dumb people (Often working class) = chavs

No exceptions can really be found.

Not all dumb people are chavs, but all chavs are dumb.
Skaladora
20-11-2005, 23:58
Hey,

I was on't way home with some friends, myself and four others. Then all of a sudden, some fucking chav hits me in the side of the jaw, and I can't do a fucking thing, due to the numbers of them, anyway, my friends and I went our separate ways and the thre girls got spat on by some chav scum, and me and my mate Ross had to take physical fucking abuse. Now don't get me wrong, we ain't the small types, but the thing is, there were so many of them.

I live in a small town, so this shouldn't happen, and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.

Now, I'm going to ask you what to do.


Should I...

P.S I live in a small town and I'm a little torn between which group of people to trust, the ones who want vengeance and the ones who want the law to follow its course.
Leave it to the law. Otherwise, they'll gather friends and jump you when you're alone. Then you'll gather friends again and beat them up. And so goes the spiral of violence.

A criminal justice system is set up exactly to make sure one doesn't have do take it upon himself to render justice.

Besides, if you went and beat them up yourself without getting through the judiciary system, you're as bad as they are. And they could even charge you for assault as well.
Lionstone
20-11-2005, 23:59
And they could even charge you for assault as well.

And irony tastes bad.....
Terecia
21-11-2005, 00:12
I don't know why, but your british style of talking and how badly you want revenge makes me think of a clockwork orange, don't know why. lol

EDIT: VENGANCE!
EDIT 2: I tihnk they get in a gang fight in that movie.
Unionista
21-11-2005, 14:50
Rule of Revenge: Do unto others as they have done unto you.

Golden Rule of Revenge: Do unto others as they tried to do unto you.

If someone tries to kill you because they want to end your life, end theirs. If someone tries to take something personal from you, take something personal of theirs. I used to get jumped everyday before I started working out and getting stronger. Everyone I knew told me to let the police handle it. I gave those bastards six months, so I said screw it, and hunted the mother fuckers down. You know, it felt great to hear them beg for mercy. I beat them so bad they will never consider hurting me again.

A year later, I met my girlfriend, we started going out. Well, one night, she goes off to this party that I wasnt told about. One of my buds calls up and asks me why I aint there. I told him, I wasnt told about it. He says I should come anyway. So I do, and as soon as I pull up, I smell weed. I look in through the window, and see a couple guys getting my girl high on what I thought was Ecstasy or GHB. I knew what those do to people, and kicked in the door, pulled the guy making out with my girl off her, and beat him so hard he never knew what hit him. Then I beat his friends up, threw them out windows. (I can bench 230 lbs. and squat 240 lbs.) I took my girl home. I hope for those punks lives that they never try that again.


And then I woke up:rolleyes:

The Police are there for this. If you go trying to take the law into your own hands you are (1) no better than the Chavs, (2) likely to get yourself arrested and the criminal record that goes with it (3) Not guaranteed to actually win in the fight. Suppose you turn up and theres a Chav convention going on at their place? you and your ten mates look fairly silly with your arses getting kicked by half the chavs in Essex. (4) adding to the spiral of violence. You kick them in the teeth, they catch you one at a time and hospitalise you. Leave it to the Police.
Carnivorous Lickers
21-11-2005, 15:09
Rule of Revenge: Do unto others as they have done unto you.

Golden Rule of Revenge: Do unto others as they tried to do unto you.



Carnivorous Lickers Rule: Do unto others Before they do unto you.

Cooperate and give the police everything they need to do their job against these punks. Nothing will really happen.

Be patient. Keep an eye on the chavs-their habits-what they do,who they know and where they go. Sooner or later, your mind will either tire of the subject and you'll move on, or it will hatch such a perfect plot to make their lives perfectly difficult.
Tropical Montana
21-11-2005, 15:18
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." - forgot who said it :P

Mohandes Ghandi said it.
Deviltrainee
21-11-2005, 15:44
ur a pussy give up on getting vengeance
Kriegorgrad
21-11-2005, 17:38
I value everyone's input except for this guy...

ur a pussy give up on getting vengeance


lol ur gay u lik txt spk it makz u look kwl lol pusee shit11


Seriously, you're a dumbass. And you suck. And you're ugly.
The South Islands
21-11-2005, 17:44
Street Vengence, my friend. Only thing that works in some places.*

TSI in no way advocates violence. All liability is waived. All rights Reserved.
Aryavartha
21-11-2005, 19:16
Ghandi.

It is Gandhi. Not Ghandi.

Sorry for nitpicking but this is possibly the worst spelling mistake you can make on names..because "ghand" in Hindi is ass (buttocks). :p