NationStates Jolt Archive


Mandatory Marijuana!

FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:22
I've come up with the solution to the worlds problems! Make it the law that it is mandatory to smoke Marijuana if your a politician! No law shall be passed without the benefits of a good joint.

How many wars would be avoided?

How many useless bills would be avoided?

How many good ideas would be made? After all, isn't it ussually the simplest solution that works the best? How do you feed the homeless? Duh, give them food. How do you house them? Duh, give them houses. How do you cut dwon on crime? Duh, give them weed.

I think the simple stoners approach is always a good one. Give a man a bong, and he'll give you a great idea. And instead of hours of bickering over the dumb ideas, it would be 5 minutes of gut busting laughter, followed by a bong session, and the next item on the agenda!
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 01:29
brilliant idea! i've had the same one myself in the past... the world would be a better place if everyone was stoned :D
yes, i'm going one further: not just politicians but everybody! the world will be peaceful, tranquil, and everybody would chill out and have the time to not rush and appreciate other people's point of view.

psychotropic drugs optional but advised :)
Habardia
19-11-2005, 01:30
This is a joke, right?
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
19-11-2005, 01:32
Look, I'm all for getting high, but I don't want some guy who's baked out of his gourd to suddenly raise taxes so the capital building can keep an unlimited supply of Cheetos.
Posi
19-11-2005, 01:35
Look, I'm all for getting high, but I don't want some guy who's baked out of his gourd to suddenly raise taxes so the capital building can keep an unlimited supply of Cheetos.
I'll support a tax hike for Doritos but not Cheetos.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:36
Look, I'm all for getting high, but I don't want some guy who's baked out of his gourd to suddenly raise taxes so the capital building can keep an unlimited supply of Cheetos.
Dude, in order to stock the Capital building with Cheetos, you'd need to raise taxes by something like.0000000000000001%

EDIT- besides, would you rather a taxhike for a 2 billion dollar bridge in Alaska, or for a tax hike to feed people?

You aren't anti-eating are you? :confused:
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:37
Before I found Christ, when I was part of the drug underworld, every crime was preceded by a joint (or more specifically, a blunt, no one uses joints). Whether you were going to rob someone, assault someone, or go to war against another drug point, you smoked a blunt before you went out to do it. It helps relax your nerves so you can focus on what you are going to do and has the nice bonus of providing a buffer between yourself and your actions cus everything doesnt seem so real when you are in a haze.

Marijuana is useless for fighting crime.
You forgot the part where it makes little kids look like purple monsters that you have the overwhelming urge to kill.
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 01:38
I'll support a tax hike for Doritos but not Cheetos.
seconded!
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:38
brilliant idea! i've had the same one myself in the past... the world would be a better place if everyone was stoned :D
yes, i'm going one further: not just politicians but everybody! the world will be peaceful, tranquil, and everybody would chill out and have the time to not rush and appreciate other people's point of view.

psychotropic drugs optional but advised :)
No, we need sober people to build our Playstations and bigscreen TVs. ;)
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
19-11-2005, 01:39
Dude, in order to stock the Capital building with Cheetos, you'd need to raise taxes by something like.0000000000000001%

Yeah, but first it's Cheetos, then it's microwave burritos...next thing we know, politicians are getting 500$ an hour hookers to feed them lobster.
Fischer Land
19-11-2005, 01:39
Hey I'm all for everyone being high - I'm hitting off my bong right now as a matter of fact. So letting people smoke would be fine, but forcing them would be totally un-stoner like.
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 01:41
No, we need sober people to build our Playstations and bigscreen TVs. ;)
woah woah woah... playstations?!? pac-man will do me thanks ;) :p
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:42
Hey I'm all for everyone being high - I'm hitting off my bong right now as a matter of fact. So letting people smoke would be fine, but forcing them would be totally un-stoner like.
I don't mean REAL people, I mean people like Hillary Clinton and Tom Delay. Can you REALLY tell me they don't need to be forced into a good Hooka session, just to straighten them out?

Think of it like giving your kid Ritilun, but with people you don't like. ;)
Elephant rapers
19-11-2005, 01:42
I've also pondered this idea for some time I've come to a solution. All we need to do is invent giant vaporizers that can hotbox a large outdoor area and put them all over the world so the planet can have a constant hotbox. Doing so would easily eliminate all violence and crime as we know it. The only tricky part would be getting enough ganga to do so, but I think if had enough hemp farms making THC extract out of all their crops, it would be quite doable.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:43
I'm hitting off my bong right now as a matter of fact.
You gonna pass that thing or what? You gettin paid to babysit? :headbang:
Letila
19-11-2005, 01:43
Not a bad idea, FireAnts.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:45
I've also pondered this idea for some time I've come to a solution. All we need to do is invent giant vaporizers that can hotbox a large outdoor area and put them all over the world so the planet can have a constant hotbox. Doing so would easily eliminate all violence and crime as we know it. The only tricky part would be getting enough ganga to do so, but I think if had enough hemp farms making THC extract out of all their crops, it would be quite doable.
HHHMMMM? IVE GOT IT!!!!!! All power plants must be required to run on kind buds! And cars must be run marijuana oil! (kinda like hemp oil, but hemp doesn't have thc)
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:47
Not a bad idea, FireAnts.
Thank you! *blushes*
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 01:49
I've also pondered this idea for some time I've come to a solution. All we need to do is invent giant vaporizers that can hotbox a large outdoor area and put them all over the world so the planet can have a constant hotbox...
oooh i'm liking this idea... would this not be awesome at festivals? :D
Elephant rapers
19-11-2005, 01:52
HHHMMMM? IVE GOT IT!!!!!! All power plants must be required to run on kind buds! And cars must be run marijuana oil! (kinda like hemp oil, but hemp doesn't have thc)

Yeah that would work, even male hemp has a small THC content so we could use it in extract and then process it for whatever use. Switching to hemp alone(for clothes, paper, and whatever other use we can find) would save the entire planet billions of dollars. I think if we started with that those crazy propaganda driven imbeciles would be willing to listen to other wonderful benefits of my good friend mary jane
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 01:55
Yeah that would work, even male hemp has a small THC content so we could use it in extract and then process it for whatever use. Switching to hemp alone(for clothes, paper, and whatever other use we can find) would save the entire planet billions of dollars. I think if we started with that those crazy propaganda driven imbeciles would be willing to listen to other wonderful benefits of my good friend mary jane
Damn, I didn't even think of the economical benifits! Hemp oil diesels, Hemp clothes, Hemp composites. We need to get on this ASAP!
China3
19-11-2005, 01:56
If you are not joking then i hope that somebody will shoot me soon. If eve such a thing as you proposed happpenes i will kill all the politicians then kill mself out of misery due to living in a world of morons.
Pantycellen
19-11-2005, 02:00
I hate to tell you this but not all drugs work for all people in the same way

for example I have a condition which means my body chemistry is significantly different to yours (probably) for example speed slows me down (it was one of the drugs used to keep my condition down in extreme cases in the bad old days)
2k_rammerizkool
19-11-2005, 02:00
well, even though you say stoned people can do anything basically, you are wrong. you said "how can we house the homeless? duh, give them houses". any idiot with more than half a brain can think of that, but to carry that out would require a HUGE amount of money, not only to get the supplies, but labor, too. itd also require very smart organizers to get all this done, get land plotted, etc etc.

\:|
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 02:01
If you are not joking then i hope that somebody will shoot me soon. If eve such a thing as you proposed happpenes i will kill all the politicians then kill mself out of misery due to living in a world of morons.
1) I'm not joking
2) I'd rather live in a world of morons, than a world of cold hearted evil fucks.
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 02:02
well, even though you say stoned people can do anything basically, you are wrong. you said "how can we house the homeless? duh, give them houses". any idiot with more than half a brain can think of that, but to carry that out would require a HUGE amount of money, not only to get the supplies, but labor, too. itd also require very smart organizers to get all this done, get land plotted, etc etc.

\:|
if all the builders were stoned too they wouldn't mind working for doritos and beer :)
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 02:03
2) I'd rather live in a world of morons, than a world of cold hearted evil fucks.
give that man a cigar *claps*

(bordering on flaming though, so watch it...)
Elephant rapers
19-11-2005, 02:05
If you are not joking then i hope that somebody will shoot me soon. If eve such a thing as you proposed happpenes i will kill all the politicians then kill mself out of misery due to living in a world of morons.

now now china, have you tried using your brain and looking at the facts about cannabis rather than let everyone else tell you its bad with fake reasons? Marijuana, contrary to popular belief is actually good for you in almost every way. the only damage it does is it causes minor damage to your bronchioles when smoked, but if ingested or vaporized even that doesn't occur. all the chemicals that get you high in marijuana are naturally present in the body, increasing those concentrations causes cannabinoids to protect your brain and spine from damage caused by REAL poisons. you may all think im bsing you guys, but take a look at erowid and read the research papers(im way too lazy to link em right now). China, just a little word of advice but maybe you should let YOU decide what is good in this world rather than others who do so to keep you under control. We aren't morons, we are the future. People are finally beginning to realize the wonders of marijuana and the laws are slipping slowly but surely. Soon its gonna be either decriminalized or legal everywhere and ur gonna be stuck listening to even more of our crap:)
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 02:12
now now china, have you tried using your brain and looking at the facts about cannabis rather than let everyone else tell you its bad with fake reasons? Marijuana, contrary to popular belief is actually good for you in almost every way. the only damage it does is it causes minor damage to your bronchioles when smoked, but if ingested or vaporized even that doesn't occur. all the chemicals that get you high in marijuana are naturally present in the body, increasing those concentrations causes cannabinoids to protect your brain and spine from damage caused by REAL poisons. you may all think im bsing you guys, but take a look at erowid and read the research papers(im way too lazy to link em right now). China, just a little word of advice but maybe you should let YOU decide what is good in this world rather than others who do so to keep you under control. We aren't morons, we are the future. People are finally beginning to realize the wonders of marijuana and the laws are slipping slowly but surely. Soon its gonna be either decriminalized or legal everywhere and ur gonna be stuck listening to even more of our crap:)
could you link to those research papers please (i fancy a read)
out of all the different types of receptor cell available, cannabinoid/THC receptors are the most common/prevalent in the human brain... quite something for something that the media and government tell you is so evil, no? ;)

anyways, that little rant you just wrote really makes me want to spark up a nice fatty now :(
haven't smoked in months - not since amsterdam :(
Habardia
19-11-2005, 02:13
now now china, have you tried using your brain and looking at the facts about cannabis rather than let everyone else tell you its bad with fake reasons? Marijuana, contrary to popular belief is actually good for you in almost every way. the only damage it does is it causes minor damage to your bronchioles when smoked, but if ingested or vaporized even that doesn't occur. all the chemicals that get you high in marijuana are naturally present in the body, increasing those concentrations causes cannabinoids to protect your brain and spine from damage caused by REAL poisons. you may all think im bsing you guys, but take a look at erowid and read the research papers(im way too lazy to link em right now). China, just a little word of advice but maybe you should let YOU decide what is good in this world rather than others who do so to keep you under control. We aren't morons, we are the future. People are finally beginning to realize the wonders of marijuana and the laws are slipping slowly but surely. Soon its gonna be either decriminalized or legal everywhere and ur gonna be stuck listening to even more of our crap:)
If the future is a reefer-ruled one I really want to die. Now. Not because I have anything against smoking mj, or against the people who do, but because just as great ideas come from the leaf, so do the weirdest most twisted and absurd ones.
The Charr
19-11-2005, 02:16
I knew a stoner once. Before he crashed his car into a tree, I mean.
Melkor Unchained
19-11-2005, 02:17
Given some of the laws we've passed in the last 229 years, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that our politicians are already plenty high.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 02:17
I knew a stoner once. Before he crashed his car into a tree, I mean.
:rolleyes:
Melkor Unchained
19-11-2005, 02:19
I knew a stoner once. Before he crashed his car into a tree, I mean.
Odd, because I regularly smoke weed and drive at the same time, yet the only accident I've ever been in occured while I was stone-cold sober [it was a major one too--I flipped a convertible going 90 mph [144kph]]. If you get to imply sweeping generalizations like this, turnabout is fair play.

Marijuana for safe driving!
Kinda Sensible people
19-11-2005, 02:21
Meh... No thanks. I like for my head to be my own, if its all the same to you.
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 02:23
i suck driving stoned, or at least i think i do. probably ok really, but a friend of mine drives waaaay more safely when monged than sober. sober he races everyone and likes to do skids and all sorts of shit... stoned he's way safer, so go figure
Neo-Litaria
19-11-2005, 02:23
I voted for 'Uptight Prick" because of the fact that I'm not a big fan of ANY substance that clouds better judgement. Granted I never hit a bong, snorted coke, drank a beer, or tripped out on something; but, seriously, I see enough people on any of this stuff at tech high everyday (just yesterday, a good friend of mine was tripping in school. Said I looked like a 'sea goddess' and I'm a guy...that has ranked as #1 wierdest moment in my life) to know what all that crap does. So, no drugs or beer for me; same for marijuana. But, I'm all for legalization of all substances. Not because I think the world would be a better place if everyone was high; private industry, the government, and the drug lords stand to make BILLIONS! I propose that the US gov take an approach similiar to alcohol; discourage it, but it's still legal. Next, the gov taxes the drugs; ALL OF THEM. The total sales tax would be your states sales tax PLUS a 3% drug tax PLUS to gross cost of products and products related to it. Before you fly off the handle, consider this; imagine an America where there is no government deficit. Where social security is well funded and the government can afford to help those in need. Imagine an America in an ecomomic BOOM. Imagine being a bong company president rolling in dough. I guess I'm a cold-hearted centrist, capitalist dog; and I'm lovin' it! There ya go.
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 02:26
Imagine being a bong company president rolling in dough.
i'm choosing to ignore the rest of that post, but oooh there's a nice thought to fall asleep too! 'night all :)
Boonytopia
19-11-2005, 02:30
I enjoy getting stoned, so I appreciate your thinking. However, I don't it's a good idea to have our law makers constantly high. Could make for some interesting legislation though! :)
The Question mark
19-11-2005, 02:35
wow you pothead. marajuana only makes problems worse
Cringe Schrapnel
19-11-2005, 02:35
Ummm?? what were we talking about? :sniper:
The Question mark
19-11-2005, 02:37
wow you pothead. marajuana only makes problems worse
China3
19-11-2005, 02:42
now now china, have you tried using your brain and looking at the facts about cannabis rather than let everyone else tell you its bad with fake reasons? Marijuana, contrary to popular belief is actually good for you in almost every way. the only damage it does is it causes minor damage to your bronchioles when smoked, but if ingested or vaporized even that doesn't occur. all the chemicals that get you high in marijuana are naturally present in the body, increasing those concentrations causes cannabinoids to protect your brain and spine from damage caused by REAL poisons. you may all think im bsing you guys, but take a look at erowid and read the research papers(im way too lazy to link em right now). China, just a little word of advice but maybe you should let YOU decide what is good in this world rather than others who do so to keep you under control. We aren't morons, we are the future. People are finally beginning to realize the wonders of marijuana and the laws are slipping slowly but surely. Soon its gonna be either decriminalized or legal everywhere and ur gonna be stuck listening to even more of our crap:)



Now now Elephant, what makes you think i believe what people tell me? What makes you think that if i would believe what people tell me i would not be snorting up 5 different types of drugs which are 'good' for you? Anything you inhale causes damage to your lungs. EVEN AIR, theres a thing called oxidization if you don't believe me, now if you inhale smoke, EVEN BETTER, right?

Again, you are morons. Decriminalization is good, fine, it will lower crime rates and etc.. Legalization: no. Promotion of it: no. I have for a long time said that the future is one of many morons. Turns out i was right.

Why don't you look at the facts before assuming you know everything about me. You know, like the fact that i had a friend who ended up killing 5 people in a car crash cause he was high from marijuana. Well, no biggie, right?
Tokagowa
19-11-2005, 02:57
Recently in Denver, Co they passed a bill that allows for one ounce of the substance to be legal and even though it conflicts with federal law and is still technically illegal it is a stepping stone. For example all of the surrounding districts are also starting to get it onto the ballots. I have also heard that it is starting to affect other states.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 03:00
You know, like the fact that i had a friend who ended up killing 5 people in a car crash cause he was high from marijuana. Well, no biggie, right?
HHMmmm. I've had many a friend killed in a car crash , and most of them were sober. So by your twisted logic, driving sober is dangerous!

I love it how no one looks at the millions of sober people who wreck cars, but everyone looks at the stoner who wrecks a car, and instantly potheads are responsible for all the car wrecks
Mclearen
19-11-2005, 03:13
All of the Drugs with a deffinative list of how its made or grown should be legalized to an extent I mean take LSD for example the unbiased people who did research on its use on drug and alcoholics found that over 50 percent of the guided people gave up there addiction while AA has a horribly low success rate, and you know what the government did for Research they took unstable people chained them to a desk and pumped them with almost 100x the necessary dossage and left them look it up. as for MJ there are certain people on a list getting it shipped to them from the U.S. government as medicinal aid but anyone else can be arrested for possesion it has a medicinal use. many of the other banned drugs have medicinal purposes in controlled doses. If you want to ban anything ban alcohol and cigarretes everyone says mj is the steppingstone for drug addicts when the easily acquirable and legal Alcohol is much more likely to be the "gateway drug". And unlike Mj cigarrete tobacco isnt strait tobacco anymore it has enough additives to make it addictive and much more HAZARDOUS.
China3
19-11-2005, 03:20
HHMmmm. I've had many a friend killed in a car crash , and most of them were sober. So by your twisted logic, driving sober is dangerous!

I love it how no one looks at the millions who sober people who wreck cars, but everyone looks at the stoner who wrecks a car, and instantly potheads are responsible for all the car wrecks


Did i blame morons and idiots who lack brains for wrecking cars?


No i didn't.

My point was that, i have known many people who thanks to your miracle drug have thrown their lives away.

I'm curious, do all of you truly think that the crap you smoke now is the same marijuana from the 60's? do you think it's the same recreational drug it was before? If yeah then i pity you. And before you shoot your mouths off on TEH OH NOES YUO ARE WR)N6!!!!! i want to say that i have done a chemical analysis on a joint from a 'dealer'....have fun.

I repeat, i am all for decriminalization, not legalization though and not promotion of it.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 03:34
Did i blame morons and idiots who lack brains for wrecking cars?


No i didn't.

My point was that, i have known many people who thanks to your miracle drug have thrown their lives away.

I'm curious, do all of you truly think that the crap you smoke now is the same marijuana from the 60's? do you think it's the same recreational drug it was before? If yeah then i pity you. And before you shoot your mouths off on TEH OH NOES YUO ARE WR)N6!!!!! i want to say that i have done a chemical analysis on a joint from a 'dealer'....have fun.

I repeat, i am all for decriminalization, not legalization though and not promotion of it.
If you knew ANYTHING about pot, you'd know how full of it you sound to all of us who actually do.
1)Marijuana isn't the same as it was in the sixties. Your right. It's "higher proof" if you will. It has more thc in it. That is why in the sixties, people smoked 3 or 4 joints to get high, and people today smoke a couple hits of kind buzz to get high. But if you think the chemical in Marijuana has changed at all, you lack the knowledge to judge it.
2)You did a "chemical analysis? Care to post the results, Mr. Scientist?
3)It's not my fault you know a bunch of dumb people who throw their lives away and blame it on Marijuana.

If you want to insinuate that marijuana destroys lives, then perhaps you'd like to try convincing all the people I know who smoke, including the C.P.A., the Realtor, the 2 soldiers, the 5 Marines, the 3 Treecutters, the Maintenance engineer, and all the others that they have destroyed there lives?

Again, PLEASE post the results of your "Chemical analysis" or at least the method and equipment used.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 03:35
If you knew ANYTHING about pot, you'd know how full of it you sound to all of us who actually do.
1)Marijuana isn't the same as it was in the sixties. Your right. It's "higher proof" if you will. It has more thc in it. That is why in the sixties, people smoked 3 or 4 joints to get high, and people today smoke a couple hits of kind buzz to get high. But if you think the chemical in Marijuana has changed at all, you lack the knowledge to judge it.
2)You did a "chemical analysis? Care to post the results, Mr. Scientist?
3)It's not my fault you know a bunch of dumb people who throw their lives away and blame it on Marijuana.

If you want to insinuate that marijuana destroys lives, then perhaps you'd like to try convincing all the people I know who smoke, including the C.P.A., the Realtor, the 2 soldiers, the 5 Marines, the 3 Treecutters, the Maintenance engineer, and all the others that they have destroyed there lives?

Again, PLEASE post the results of your "Chemical analysis" or at least the method and equipment used.


I'm guessing you can't.
Derscon
19-11-2005, 03:37
You aren't anti-eating are you? :confused:

Yes, I am anti-eating. No one should eat. :eek: :p
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 03:40
Yes, I am anti-eating. No one should eat. :eek: :p
Pot can cure that too, ya know! ;)
Ramos Ranchero
19-11-2005, 04:05
all you kids out there think weed is so fun...

After a couple times for me I stopped it. I dont like the way it makes me feel.
As for my friends, I cant tell you how many of my friends lives Ive seen fucked up by drugs. They have holes in their brains. This one guy had a stroke at forty and the left side of his body is worthless. For that one moron several posts back, in a completely seperate incident before the stroke, he crashed his corvette into a telephone pole at 80 miles an hour. Turned the fiberglass into shards... lucky for him he walked away without a scratch.

Reunions and parties are miserable. Too many old friends turned into space cadets.

You young people have no idea what you are doing to yourselves.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 06:52
all you kids out there think weed is so fun...

After a couple times for me I stopped it. I dont like the way it makes me feel.
As for my friends, I cant tell you how many of my friends lives Ive seen fucked up by drugs. They have holes in their brains. This one guy had a stroke at forty and the left side of his body is worthless. For that one moron several posts back, in a completely seperate incident before the stroke, he crashed his corvette into a telephone pole at 80 miles an hour. Turned the fiberglass into shards... lucky for him he walked away without a scratch.

Reunions and parties are miserable. Too many old friends turned into space cadets.

You young people have no idea what you are doing to yourselves.
And just what the hell does holes in your brain and strokes have to do with pot? I really hope you aren't trying to link the two. Not only would it be a blatant lie, but it would also do nothing for your cause but to link the anti-marijuana movement with the anti-truth movement. Perhaps you have this thread confused with one about Ecstasy or Cocaine?
Naturality
19-11-2005, 06:57
It will not be legalized unless taxed, since the average joe can grow the shit. It was this was years ago. I might be fine with paying taxes on my homegrown, as long as they don't tell me what to .. nevermind.. no I wouldn't be fine with a tax much less anything else.! Then again .. I MIGHT would be fine with them telling me I cannot grow to sell to make a profit. That is cool with me personally. I only want to smoke my own shit. Pot is so easily grown and our govn't and whoever else has so much of a hold on it, I really doubt it will come to pass that we are able to legally grow our own buds. You never know tho, cocaine is their major money maker, they might one day let us slide by with pot, as long as they still get their pockets lined. (Oh I am so paranoid aren't I! -- not)

Hooked, Illegal Drugs and how they got that way.

check it out.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 07:01
It will not be legalized unless taxed, since the average joe can grow the shit. It was this was years ago. I might be fine with paying taxes on my homegrown, as long as they don't tell me what to .. nevermind.. no I wouldn't be fine with a tax much less anything else.! I would be fine with them telling me I cannot grow and sell to make a profit. That is cool with me personally. I only want to smoke my own shit.

Hooked, Illegal Drugs and how they got that way.

check it out.
Thats one thing that really pisses me off. Why is it that when people speak of legalizing pot, they always say "think of the tax money you could colllect"?
Fuck that! I want the government to just leave me and my pot the fuck alone! No laws against it, no taxes upon it!
Derscon
19-11-2005, 07:03
Pot can cure that too, ya know! ;)

I, personally, find it immoral, but whatever. To be entirely honest, I am really not in the mood for a debate -- especially on a topic that I really don't care about all that much.
Derscon
19-11-2005, 07:04
Thats one thing that really pisses me off. Why is it that when people speak of legalizing pot, they always say "think of the tax money you could colllect"?
Fuck that! I want the government to just leave me and my pot the fuck alone! No laws against it, no taxes upon it!

If the cigarette companies can't be tax exempt, do you really think POT would be tax exempt?

Keep dreamin'.
Naturality
19-11-2005, 07:04
Thats one thing that really pisses me off. Why is it that when people speak of legalizing pot, they always say "think of the tax money you could colllect"?
Fuck that! I want the government to just leave me and my pot the fuck alone! No laws against it, no taxes upon it!

I'm with ya, but is very very UNlikely to happen.
Naturality
19-11-2005, 07:05
Also, I edited that post.

Thought about it, and re worded it, not cause of what you said. I did so before reading your post.
Naturality
19-11-2005, 07:10
I don't give shit what they say.. I will grow my own for my own personal use. The odds of them finding out are slim. Bastards.
Pure Metal
19-11-2005, 07:19
woah dudes this thread has gone waaaay heavy... i'm off for a smoke :D

*wanders off aimlessly*
Naturality
19-11-2005, 07:37
To those who say Marajuana is a "sin, immoral" etc. ...

Your demon isn't neccessarily my demon.. got it!?
To each their own with immorality things..

I've never felt guilty for smoking pot, but I have for drinking beer ... {U.S.= Beers legal, pot isn't - you should've felt guilty immediatly for puffing your pipe.. not swigging the beer}( Mans eyes yes, but not my higher power) Wrong in my case. I'm an alcoholic-- alcohol is the "drug" that use to make me "jones". Even when I stopped smoking(Cigs)/drinking I still smoked pot and I never once felt guilty in my spirit. Pot wasn't my "door", my weakness ..was and is alcohol, and cigerettes just made me feel bad for the fact that I was smoking them period, since I was aware of how shitty and nasty they made me feel, and the fact that I was addicted to continue on that cycle.

To each their own. Addictions come in many forms, have many faces...it's not just what you've been trained to think is bad. So is life.
Derscon
19-11-2005, 07:43
Your demon isn't neccessarily my demon.. got it!?
To each their own with immorality things..

Tone it down, a tad, jeez. There's a reason I put the "but whatever," part. I knew that you wouldn't be bragging about it if you thought it was immoral.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 07:48
I, personally, find it immoral, but whatever. To be entirely honest, I am really not in the mood for a debate -- especially on a topic that I really don't care about all that much.
Then may I ask WTF the point of you even posting is, besides to throw in your two cents? (personally, I think I owe you some change)
Naturality
19-11-2005, 07:49
Tone it down, a tad, jeez. There's a reason I put the "but whatever," part. I knew that you wouldn't be bragging about it if you thought it was immoral.

I apologize for attacking you. I will change my post, was uncalled for.
Melkor Unchained
19-11-2005, 07:54
For that one moron several posts back...
You might want to think about not doing that again, especially when that "Moron" is a Moderator. Capeesh?
Derscon
19-11-2005, 07:55
I apologize for attacking you. I will change my post, was uncalled for.

I don't know where you live, exactly, but here, it's two o'clock in the morning. I won't fault you. :D

Then may I ask WTF the point of you even posting is, besides to throw in your two cents? (personally, I think I owe you some change)

To be honest, I'm not sure, but shooting off ad hominem attacks is a very immature way of going about asking the question.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 08:02
To be honest, I'm not sure, but shooting off ad hominem attacks is a very immature way of going about asking the question.
Maturity really isn't my strong point.Nough said. ;)
Derscon
19-11-2005, 08:04
Maturity really isn't my strong point. But, fortunately for me, backing up statements with context is, so I have a little room to talk. ;)

I usually do, but....actually, I can't remember why.

Anyways,

so we're even then. :D
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 08:05
I edit my post, and pass you a Miller High Life, the Champagne of beers! ;)


I must, however , say that your maturity pisses me off, seing as though now I have to be mature too. Thanks a fucking lot! ;)
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 08:13
You might want to think about not doing that again, especially when that "Moron" is a Moderator. Capeesh?
Would it be out of line to giggle like a school girl at this point?
HeathenHaven
19-11-2005, 08:28
Ok I am 39 yrs old. I have Post Traumatic Stress Didorder from 2 severe head injuries that happened when I was at work (I was LPN and I sober and straight when I was attacked by a pateint the first time and when I got smacked by fire door that was opening ). I am premantly disabled due it. I can not take pharmecuetical drugs they F* with me and make WAY worse some even made me suicidal like Zoloft.
I have HORRID nightmares nearly weekly and alot of trouble sleeping. I often have periods of time (weeks sometimes) where I just can't go out. I also can't go to malls,Wal-Mart etc alone due to neural damage from the head injuries, I lose awareness like augsberger syndrome.

Pot is the ONLY thing that helps me to function even somewhat normallly. Pot relieves the nightmares and flashbacks I get. It eases the anxiety I often feel when I am in crowds. I never smoked regularly until AFTER I began to have PTSD symptoms when I was 35

So before any else gets all "righteous" walk a mile in my shoes!
Also as a former LPN with hospice exp, many many ppl cancer patients, AIDS patients etc benefot from pot. I know an AIDS pateint that if it weren't pot he wouldn't be able to eat. He is 6'3" and barely 150..I hate to think how thin he'd be without pot.

Another thing. Mayor Mike Bloomberg of NYC was/is a pot smoker. Ditto for Gatewood Galbraith author and one THE most prominent attorneys in the USA. In fact there is an actual association of lawyers that are pot smokers and work for legalisation in their spare time. Thomas Jefferson smoke pot and so did Queen Victoria of England.

Wille Nelson is a pot head, so was Jerry Garcia. They ALL have attained far more sucess in life than most anyone posting on here.
FireAntz
19-11-2005, 09:00
Ok I am 39 yrs old. I have Post Traumatic Stress Didorder from 2 severe head injuries that happened when I was at work (I was LPN and I sober and straight when I was attacked by a pateint the first time and when I got smacked by fire door that was opening ). I am premantly disabled due it. I can not take pharmecuetical drugs they F* with me and make WAY worse some even made me suicidal like Zoloft.
I have HORRID nightmares nearly weekly and alot of trouble sleeping. I often have periods of time (weeks sometimes) where I just can't go out. I also can't go to malls,Wal-Mart etc alone due to neural damage from the head injuries, I lose awareness like augsberger syndrome.

Pot is the ONLY thing that helps me to function even somewhat normallly. Pot relieves the nightmares and flashbacks I get. It eases the anxiety I often feel when I am in crowds. I never smoked regularly until AFTER I began to have PTSD symptoms when I was 35

So before any else gets all "righteous" walk a mile in my shoes!
Also as a former LPN with hospice exp, many many ppl cancer patients, AIDS patients etc benefot from pot. I know an AIDS pateint that if it weren't pot he wouldn't be able to eat. He is 6'3" and barely 150..I hate to think how thin he'd be without pot.

Another thing. Mayor Mike Bloomberg of NYC was/is a pot smoker. Ditto for Gatewood Galbraith author and one THE most prominent attorneys in the USA. In fact there is an actual association of lawyers that are pot smokers and work for legalisation in their spare time. Thomas Jefferson smoke pot and so did Queen Victoria of England.

Wille Nelson is a pot head, so was Jerry Garcia. They ALL have attained far more sucess in life than most anyone posting on here.
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles! If it makes you feel better, I will be fighting until the day I die to get it legalized. I have scoliosis, anxiety disorder, agoraphobia, and depression. When I smoke weed, it all goes away without losing my thoughts.

If thats wrong, then the world is wrong. God bless you partner, I'm with you!
HeathenHaven
19-11-2005, 10:38
Oh man. Pot is a MIRACLE to those who NEED it. I haven't been able to for a few months since I moved home from KY it's been tough to find where I am now. I am suffering for it too.
Derscon
19-11-2005, 19:00
I edit my post, and pass you a Miller High Life, the Champagne of beers! ;)


I must, however , say that your maturity pisses me off, seing as though now I have to be mature too. Thanks a fucking lot! ;)

Anytime. :p :D

And I'll have to turn down the drink, as I'm seven years underage, but thanks anyways. :)
Arapahoe Cove
19-11-2005, 19:12
This is a joke, right?

Guys i don't know if any of you have heard but Denver past a law(I-100) which it's not illegal to pocess i oz of marijuana. But It would work, it was orginially for medical purposes, but drug addicts will find anyway to smoke it but it's still illegal to none the less, it intertwines with federal law, so, a cop can still arrest you.
:sniper: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :mp5: :fluffle:
SmokersDeelite
19-11-2005, 19:18
meh. just put it in cookies.
Derscon
19-11-2005, 19:25
Arapahoe Cove, what was the point for the fluffle at the end? :confused:
New Burmesia
19-11-2005, 22:39
It's already manditory if you wanna be leader of the tories - we all know Cameron's done it!
Arapahoe Cove
19-11-2005, 22:47
Arapahoe Cove, what was the point for the fluffle at the end? :confused:
I just randomly did that