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I have a friend who recently let slip up that he's gay, and now everybody knows about it. Frankly enough, he's one of my closest friends, and everybody thinks I'm gay with him. I've already gotten in trouble when beating the shit out of a couple of kids who tried to put a 'Faggot' sign on my back, and I'm pissed. I've got nothing against Gays, but this has really put me in an awkward situation. I don't want to make fun of my friend who's known me since Grade 4, but I don't want to be called Gay just for sticking up for him. Anybody have any advice to destroy this rumour? Should I just go on an angry rampage beating people up? Cause that's the closest thing I've got so far to a solution.

Stick up for your friend and ignore the twats.

Stick up for your friend and ignore the twats.

Hear hear.

Yep. Stick up for your friend and make sure you get alot of pussy. Oh, and if you keep fighting back they'll get tired of getting hurt long before you get tired of defending yourself.

Remember that part about getting alot of pussy. It's good advice in almost any situation.

Stick up for your friend and ignore the twats.

I third the motion.

Though if that fails, you can try having wild [heterosexual] sex in front of everyone.

Failing that, just wait. In my experience people like that have short attention spans. They'll find something else to entertain them soon enough.

This is absolutely disgusting, that children are still being taught to persecute. In my opinion, this is no better than taunting someone for their gender, race or religion.

You probably do want to beat the living shit out of these fuckers. However, you shouldn't lower yourself to base instincts. Stand up for yourself and your friend. No one, and I mean NO ONE should be persecuted for who they are.

Seems a logical choice. I'll attack random people in anger just to be on the safe side as well, though.

Spread your own rumour? Of course that could backfire, making them think you did it because you were gay but ashamed, so you might want to just ignore them. Or find a way to beat them up without anyone having proof it was you.

Seems a logical choice. I'll attack random people in anger just to be on the safe side as well, though.
That's the spirit!

*hands Jenrak a baseball bat*

Spread your own rumour? Of course that could backfire, making them think you did it because you were gay but ashamed, so you might want to just ignore them. Or find a way to beat them up without anyone having proof it was you.

Tis hard. Mostly because my school has cameras like everywhere, except for the bathrooms, which I will not take the time to beat random people in the bathroom while they're most likely taking a dump.

That's the spirit!

*hands Jenrak a baseball bat*

Sadly enough, it's kinda suspicious for someone like me to bring a baseball bat around. I won't get very far.

I have a friend who recently let slip up that he's gay, and now everybody knows about it. Frankly enough, he's one of my closest friends, and everybody thinks I'm gay with him. I've already gotten in trouble when beating the shit out of a couple of kids who tried to put a 'Faggot' sign on my back, and I'm pissed. I've got nothing against Gays, but this has really put me in an awkward situation. I don't want to make fun of my friend who's known me since Grade 4, but I don't want to be called Gay just for sticking up for him. Anybody have any advice to destroy this rumour? Should I just go on an angry rampage beating people up? Cause that's the closest thing I've got so far to a solution.


I had some similar problems when I was in highschool. Honestly, I'd file a written complaint with your Dean (or whoever is in charge of your school's administration). Explain to him (or her) that you will not tollerate physical abuse and if the administration does not take steps to stop it you'll be forced to file a complaint with the ACLU. It might be worth your while to do a little research on your State's self-defense statutes and appraise the Dean of both your legal rights and your will to excercise them should you be attacked. Approach the situation not as a threat, but as an attempt to head off trouble before it starts. Be firm, be respectful, but let the admins understand that if they don't fix the problem you will find someone who will (no administration wants to find out that charges have been filed for an assault that happened on their watch).

Right, seriously, stop agreeing with me. It's feels weird.

Tis hard. Mostly because my school has cameras like everywhere, except for the bathrooms, which I will not take the time to beat random people in the bathroom while they're most likely taking a dump.

Oh I don't advocate the beating of random people, just giving a little lesson to those who spread lies about you and bully your friend.

Of course, it depends if you think they'll get bored soon (or you'll leave school soon) - you might want to just ignore them till then.

Stick up for your friend and ignore the twats.I 'fourth' this. Friendship is much more important than getting annoyed by a bunch of ignorant wankers. I appreciate that it is awkward for you, but if simply ignoring them does no good, ask them for one good, rational reason for homosexuality being as bad as they apparently feel it is. I bet they don't have one. Regardless of whether these tactics work or not, report them. This is bullying.

Edit: I think Bolol is right; if they were bullying someone because of their race/gender/religion etc, they'd be in serious trouble and it would simply not be allowed. Ask your teachers - and them - what the problem with being different from societal conventions and majorities is, and in the unlikely event they're able to give a reason re: homosexuality, as them would they allow an individual from an ethnic minority to be treated in the same way.

Right, seriously, stop agreeing with me. It's feels weird.Sorry :p

I had some similar problems when I was in highschool. Honestly, I'd file a written complaint with your Dean (or whoever is in charge of your school's administration). Explain to him (or her) that you will not tollerate physical abuse and if the administration does not take steps to stop it you'll be forced to file a complaint with the ACLU. It might be worth your while to do a little research on your State's self-defense statutes and appraise the Dean of both your legal rights and your will to excercise them should you be attacked. Approach the situation not as a threat, but as an attempt to head off trouble before it starts. Be firm, be respectful, but let the admins understand that if they don't fix the problem you will find someone who will (no administration wants to find out that charges have been filed for an assault that happened on their watch).

I did not understand any of that....

Regardless of whether these tactics work or not, report them. This is bullying.

Telling authority makes it worse. Now they'll call me a tattle tale as well. So I'll just have to beat them again, which still puts me back at square one. I guess I can always beat some punk so bad that everyone's too scared.

Telling authority makes it worse. Now they'll call me a tattle tale as well. So I'll just have to beat them again, which still puts me back at square one. I guess I can always beat some punk so bad that everyone's too scared.

where do you live, I'll send "the boys" over to "talk" to these bullies. also i would suggest bringing some gun magizines to school. People will either think that you are obviously not the 'stereotype gay' or they will think you are some crazed person that is going to blow up the school if provoked, toss in some random violence, I'm sure people will steer clear of ya. or get you kicked out of school, but either way you won't be picked on AT school.

Telling authority makes it worse. Now they'll call me a tattle tale as well. So I'll just have to beat them again, which still puts me back at square one. I guess I can always beat some punk so bad that everyone's too scared.Yes, I understand that dilemma as well, and in many ways I support giving them a good beating, but then again, are you not dropping to their levels in doing so?

If you really feel that you can't report these incidents officially, could you at least get someone with a vaguely authoritative air on side? It's a longshot, but you never know. (Edit: Volkodlak put this better than I did - get the boys round :))

Good luck anyway; I hope you manage to work out something.

"What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."--Romans

Thiis sums it up. Defend your friend. And if that ain't enough, I do have mafia ties. Tell me where ya live and I'll send Tony and the boys over. And bada bing! Problem solved.

But most importantly, don't forget this: If someone touches you to try to, put a sign on your back, push you, or anything else, even small things like that stuff, punch 'em. Then, tell admin. that you mistook it for the coming of something larger. The good ole "Afraid they were going to kill me" route always works (kill is exaggeration). If you can do it convincingly, you're home free.

And if it makes you feel good, you can do this with full honor. You have loyally defended your friend, and that is one of the most important acts you can ever do. Good luck man.

So I guess my violent rampage is the best solution thus far for handling this problem. Okay.

PS. I live in Canada...I also have enough close friends (who are not gay, but just as violent as me), who can take on quite a number of people before getting suspended. We're not taking the expelled route.

So I guess my violent rampage is the best solution thus far for handling this problem. Okay.

PS. I live in Canada...I also have enough close friends (who are not gay, but just as violent as me), who can take on quite a number of people before getting suspended. We're not taking the expelled route.
What province?

Anyways, I think that letting the school admin know what is happening, and threatening to go above them, is good advice. In my school district, if the school-board finds out about a problem the school's admin will solve the problem immediatly, even quicker if a parent complains to them.

Anyways, I think that letting the school admin know what is happening, and threatening to go above them, is good advice. In my school district, if the school-board finds out about a problem the school's admin will solve the problem immediatly, even quicker if a parent complains to them.

A good suggestion.

If that doesn't work, the unfortunate truth is that you'll probably be forced to beat the crap out of people until they learn not to mess with you and your friends. I wish that were not the case, but such is life, war, and potatoes, non?

Have gay sex with him, publicly. It'll play with their minds.

Have gay sex with him, publicly. It'll play with their minds.

Finally advice I can support.

What province?

Anyways, I think that letting the school admin know what is happening, and threatening to go above them, is good advice. In my school district, if the school-board finds out about a problem the school's admin will solve the problem immediatly, even quicker if a parent complains to them.

Ontario.

Seriously, make it abundantly clear to your school's administration what you are having to put up with, and if they are worth anything at all they will put an end to it somehow. Do you honestly care whether the other students think you're a "tattle-tale"? That's an elementary school retort, for chrissake.

Have gay sex with him, publicly. It'll play with their minds.

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Seriously, make it abundantly clear to your school's administration what you are having to put up with, and if they are worth anything at all they will put an end to it somehow. Do you honestly care whether the other students think you're a "tattle-tale"? That's an elementary school retort, for chrissake.

As obnoxious as it is, it's fairly annoying.

I have a friend who recently let slip up that he's gay, and now everybody knows about it. Frankly enough, he's one of my closest friends, and everybody thinks I'm gay with him. I've already gotten in trouble when beating the shit out of a couple of kids who tried to put a 'Faggot' sign on my back, and I'm pissed. I've got nothing against Gays, but this has really put me in an awkward situation. I don't want to make fun of my friend who's known me since Grade 4, but I don't want to be called Gay just for sticking up for him. Anybody have any advice to destroy this rumour? Should I just go on an angry rampage beating people up? Cause that's the closest thing I've got so far to a solution.

Meh... good luck. The more you profess to not be gay the more people will think you are and if the situation of being simply rumoured to be gay is that untenable I hate to say it but it's probably best to go your separate ways before the tension and resentment starts to build on both sides.

It cant get much truer than the "get a lot of pussy" idea. However, ...

Dont just get alot of slut pussy, then people will think you are trying to compensate for the fact that you are gay....and i have a couple of alternatives

1. nail the hottest chick in school
2. nail a quiet girl (as those are the hardest to nail, i.e. no self respecting gay man would put that much time into it)
3. beat the hell out of random people

It cant get much truer than the "get a lot of pussy" idea. However, ...

Dont just get alot of slut pussy, then people will think you are trying to compensate for the fact that you are gay....and i have a couple of alternatives

1. nail the hottest chick in school
2. nail a quiet girl (as those are the hardest to nail, i.e. no self respecting gay man would put that much time into it)
3. beat the hell out of random people

Alright! I'll do it!

Or just, you know

ignore the twats

"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem"

:mp5:
need I say more?
P.S: Obviously, joking. In all seriousness, ive faced similar issues. beatings are efficient, yet costly. Try ocassional violence mixed in with shouts of things like "ILL EAT YOUR FUCKING KIDNEYS, WHORE" and "ILL GOUGE YOUR EYES OUT AND SKULLF**K YOU!!!" things will cool down after that...at least they did for me.;)

Or just, you know

ignore the twats

but don't gay people ignore twat?

Or just, you know

ignore the twats

Screw that yo. I'm following your original advice.

but don't gay people ignore twat?

It wouldn't really matter much, because most of it is hit at me.

Or you could just jump them as a group or one by one. Its outside the schools jurisdiction.. just make sure they dont actually see you (or see you well) or you'll have to deal with cops

Good on you for standing up for your friend, remember, he is probably getting shit much more than you...

The problem with beating people up is that it looks like you are particually sensitive to them calling you gay, which in turn looks like you are gay but don't want to admit it.

The best thig to do, as suggested by others, is to get a gf, or at least show an interest in girls (but don't try too hard, coz that looks bad too). Also, try and ignore the little prats, tell them to pick on someone who cares, and just don't respond. They are only doing it for the reaction - so don't give them one!

Have gay sex with him, publicly. It'll play with their minds.


LOL! (true, it would),

........... but noooooooooo!

Back to the point tho, a very straight friend of mine was in the same boat you are, and reacted the same way, despite the amount of shit he went through because of it.
At the end of the day, we all moved on in our own seperate ways, but that's someone I'll respect for the rest of my life.

I'm not sure violence is the right way though (no matter how tempting it is), as after all, why descend to their level?

There must be other ways of dealing with them?

But maybe not the quote at the top, eh?;)

The best thig to do, as suggested by others, is to get a gf, or at least show an interest in girls (but don't try too hard, coz that looks bad too). Also, try and ignore the little prats, tell them to pick on someone who cares, and just don't respond. They are only doing it for the reaction - so don't give them one!

I do have a gf. Which pisses me off, since they still think I'm gay.

I do have a gf. Which pisses me off, since they still think I'm gay.
Just continue to beat the shit out of them. They may not lose their bigotry but you will eventually be able to silence them. Oh yeah and the getting the most pussy argument thing...doesn't quite work. The two friends of mine from highschool that came out once they got into college got far more pussy then I ever did. Ironic...the gay guys can get pussy but the straight guy can't. Oh well, just start making them feel like shit. After you beat them call them pussies or anything along the line. Beating them may not stop them from talking shit but hey it'll give ya some satisfaction.

This is absolutely disgusting, that children are still being taught to persecute.

No one has to teach people to persecute those who are different. Experiments prove that it is natural for people to do this - even small children.

What I think you're trying to say is that some children apparently are not taught to be good to others.

I did not understand any of that....

Telling authority makes it worse. Now they'll call me a tattle tale as well. So I'll just have to beat them again, which still puts me back at square one. I guess I can always beat some punk so bad that everyone's too scared.

Wah wah, so they call you ta tattle tale. Look, kid, you have two options. The first is to try to be a badass, and end up being the one in trouble (zero tollerance policies being what they are today). The second is that you can be a big boy, go to those in charge, and let them know that if the harassment doesn't stop you'll have to press charges/make a harassment complaint with the ACLU. If you want to you can even let the authority know that you understand the laws regarding self defense, so that THEY know you're willing to fight back. If you give the school a chance to put a stop to it, you have more of a chance of getting away with giving a beating when they fail.

I do have a gf. Which pisses me off, since they still think I'm gay.
Theres always the nail the hot girl, the quiet girl, or ignore the twats(not literally, taken to meant the obnoxius moron bigots)

where do you live, I'll send "the boys" over to "talk" to these bullies. also i would suggest bringing some gun magizines to school. People will either think that you are obviously not the 'stereotype gay' or they will think you are some crazed person that is going to blow up the school if provoked, toss in some random violence, I'm sure people will steer clear of ya. or get you kicked out of school, but either way you won't be picked on AT school.

Gun magazines are a bad idea. These days, that kind of intimidation will just get him expelled on sheer suspicion. I remember the ruckus that happened when I refused to stop wearing a trenchcoat after Columbine. Flighty administrators don't fool around, and unless you're prepared to go to court to defend your rights, you shouldn't cross that line.

I have a friend who recently let slip up that he's gay, and now everybody knows about it. Frankly enough, he's one of my closest friends, and everybody thinks I'm gay with him. I've already gotten in trouble when beating the shit out of a couple of kids who tried to put a 'Faggot' sign on my back, and I'm pissed. I've got nothing against Gays, but this has really put me in an awkward situation. I don't want to make fun of my friend who's known me since Grade 4, but I don't want to be called Gay just for sticking up for him. Anybody have any advice to destroy this rumour? Should I just go on an angry rampage beating people up? Cause that's the closest thing I've got so far to a solution.

Does it honestly matter what the dumb asses think anyway? Who cares if they believe you're homosexual- it only matters what you think and know about your self, in the end they'll probably just forget about it and by next week the newest scandal will hit your school... Don't let others influence the way you think, and don't be caught dead doing what they're doing either, no one needs that kind of attention... hope this helped

I do have a gf. Which pisses me off, since they still think I'm gay.

Then use Ph333334r!!!!!!!

Next time one of them acccosts you - calmly - grab em by the throat and just whisper some shit like " shut. the . hell. up " and let go.:p

Ofcourse, this is a last resort if your uber-pissed, ignoring the dickheads[ as opposed to twats ] and reporting them is best.

Drama ^_^

I have a friend who recently let slip up that he's gay, and now everybody knows about it. Frankly enough, he's one of my closest friends, and everybody thinks I'm gay with him. I've already gotten in trouble when beating the shit out of a couple of kids who tried to put a 'Faggot' sign on my back, and I'm pissed. I've got nothing against Gays, but this has really put me in an awkward situation. I don't want to make fun of my friend who's known me since Grade 4, but I don't want to be called Gay just for sticking up for him. Anybody have any advice to destroy this rumour? Should I just go on an angry rampage beating people up? Cause that's the closest thing I've got so far to a solution.
Get some good knives, learn a good close combat art, and fight to the death for your friend (if you have to). Preferably you will only have to beat up a couple more people. But whatever.

Stand up for your friend. I wouldn't recommend the whole beating up people, because that will only make people hold grudges longer, and hence, keeping the rumour alive longer. I suggest just ignoring the stupid morons, and get on with your life. Seriously, do you really care all that much about what other people think, all you need to know is that your friends believe you, and anyone who doesn't isn't a good friend. Rumours die off pretty fast anyways, and if you dont do anything to keep it alive, then something else will happen and everyone will move on to torturing someone else. As for spreading your own rumor, not only is that continuing to breed the hatred you're facing right now, but it will make people have grudges against you and keep the rumour circulating. Good luck! and if nothing else, stick with your friend, it looks like he really needs a good friend right now.

I do have a gf. Which pisses me off, since they still think I'm gay.

Well then, they are just stupid then arn't they? Who cares what they think?

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Ok, then learn deadpan delivery and whenever someone calls you a fag, hit on them. Not a little bit, either. Be graphic in your descriptions. Let them know exactly where you want to put it, with how much lube, and in what position. Question their manhood if they freak out. Remind them that in Sparta, REAL men did dudes. It might not stop them from calling you names, but it'll be HIGH-larious!

[QUOTE=Amecian]Then use Ph333334r!!!!!!!
Ofcourse, this is a last resort if your uber-pissed, ignoring the dickheads[ as opposed to twats ] and reporting them is best.
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Thanks go out to Amecian for wording my name-calling as i was unable to. Props.

Well then, they are just stupid then arn't they? Who cares what they think?

Apparently me, because I don't want Faggot signs stuck to my back.

Stand up for your friend. I wouldn't recommend the whole beating up people, because that will only make people hold grudges longer, and hence, keeping the rumour alive longer. I suggest just ignoring the stupid morons, and get on with your life. Seriously, do you really care all that much about what other people think, all you need to know is that your friends believe you, and anyone who doesn't isn't a good friend. Rumours die off pretty fast anyways, and if you dont do anything to keep it alive, then something else will happen and everyone will move on to torturing someone else. As for spreading your own rumor, not only is that continuing to breed the hatred you're facing right now, but it will make people have grudges against you and keep the rumour circulating. Good luck! and if nothing else, stick with your friend, it looks like he really needs a good friend right now.

Hear hear.

Apparently me, because I don't want Faggot signs stuck to my back.Yah dude, I know rumors seem like they last longer then they really do. And sometimes it just gets worse if you tatle, just remember - these bitches have no spine - even if they act like they do - a bruise'll make em cry a river - work with it bro.






Thanks go out to Amecian for wording my name-calling as i was unable to. Props.

*bow* I live to butcher our language whilst insulting people properly.

Apparently me, because I don't want Faggot signs stuck to my back.

Fair enough.

I think True friends are hard to come by, and always worth looking out for.
And i guess, a true friend will always be there if you're ever unlucky enough to break up with the 'perfect' girlfriend?
I think I'm trying to say, stick with your friend.
(It's just my humble opinion.)

The idiots will get bored eventually, and find the next person to have a problem with. Hopefully, your friend will still be about. :D

Get busted doing something like screwing your girlfriend in the principal's office, so that it will replace any other rumor about you that ever existed. No, don't listen to that one. How likely are you to have to deal with these people after school anyhow? Life goes on, stick by your friend. Also, you could point out to them that guys who are obsessed with gay people often are gay themselves. What you hate about others is what you fear most in yourself. Or so it's said. Could be wrong.

Thanks for the advice. I know exactly what to do now....

...I'll take em all out!

Have your gay friend beat up someone agaisnt him.Either it will work, or hell get shot, but not likely.

Stick by your friend. Stick by your friend. Inform the school of what has happened to you and that you expect them to protect you and your friend from the childish and vicious behavior of the goons who tried to put the sign on your back. Stick by your friend. Hang in there. I admire you standards of friendship.

Stop being so gay.

I have a friend who recently let slip up that he's gay, and now everybody knows about it. Frankly enough, he's one of my closest friends, and everybody thinks I'm gay with him. I've already gotten in trouble when beating the shit out of a couple of kids who tried to put a 'Faggot' sign on my back, and I'm pissed. I've got nothing against Gays, but this has really put me in an awkward situation. I don't want to make fun of my friend who's known me since Grade 4, but I don't want to be called Gay just for sticking up for him. Anybody have any advice to destroy this rumour? Should I just go on an angry rampage beating people up? Cause that's the closest thing I've got so far to a solution.

Try to find him a boyfriend. If he goes out with somebody else you're pretty much freed of those "faggot by association" rumors.

Edit: Also, try to french-kiss a couple of girls in public. It's both pleasant and useful in that situation. Side note: if you have a girlfriend, refrain from french-kissing another girl, of course. :p