NationStates Jolt Archive


Condi

The West Falklands
17-11-2005, 19:56
So, what is your opinion on Condoleeza Rice? Poll coming.
Carops
17-11-2005, 19:58
She smells
Fass
17-11-2005, 20:03
I miss Colin. Sure, he had the Bush administration utterly erode his credibility and dignity, but he just struck me as a nice person when he addressed Sweden after the death of Anna Lindh.
The West Falklands
17-11-2005, 20:04
She smells

Why?
The West Falklands
17-11-2005, 20:05
I miss Colin. Sure, he had the Bush administration utterly erode his credibility and dignity, but he just struck me as a nice person when he addressed Sweden after the death of Anna Lindh.

He also made the most credible arguments for the Bush Administration's policies. In general, he was a good guy. But what about the current Secretary of State?
Fass
17-11-2005, 20:07
He also made the most credible arguments for the Bush Administration's policies.

That's the thing - he didn't. It was so sad to see him be sullied with them.

But what about the current Secretary of State?

Oh, she's quite evil.
Psychotic Mongooses
17-11-2005, 20:08
Oh, she's quite evil.
Maybe the next President too.. *sigh*
The West Falklands
17-11-2005, 20:09
Oh, she's quite evil.

Because she supports their policies which of course are inherently evil so she must be evil eh? :D
Psychotic Mongooses
17-11-2005, 20:11
Lie down with dogs...
The West Falklands
17-11-2005, 20:12
Lie down with dogs...

Okay...
Psychotic Mongooses
17-11-2005, 20:12
:rolleyes: ugh.

...and you get up with fleas.
Fass
17-11-2005, 20:13
Because she supports their policies which of course are inherently evil so she must be evil eh? :D

Basically. At least with Colin, you knew he was bullshitting you, but that he had no choice. She authored the bullshit.
The West Falklands
17-11-2005, 20:13
:rolleyes: ugh.

...and you get up with fleas.

What???? :confused:
Fass
17-11-2005, 20:15
What???? :confused:

It's a bloody metaphor. "Lie down with dogs and you get up with fleas."
The West Falklands
17-11-2005, 20:16
It's a bloody metaphor. "Lie down with dogs and you get up with fleas."

...And I suppose Psychotic Mongooses is comparing Condi and the Bush Administration then :D Silly me :p
Good Lifes
17-11-2005, 20:20
Condi, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft.........

Put them in a sack and shake them up, it matters not which you pull out.

Powell was the only one with a conscience. He did things as a "good soldier" but you could tell his heart wasn't into it.
Egg and chips
17-11-2005, 20:29
The scary thing is the next American election might be between her and Hillary Clinton...

*Shudders*

Glad I'm not American!
The West Falklands
17-11-2005, 20:31
The scary thing is the next American election might be between her and Hillary Clinton...

*Shudders*

Glad I'm not American!

I shudder at the prospect of Hillary Clinton becoming president too... :D
X Wings
17-11-2005, 20:43
Basically. At least with Colin, you knew he was bullshitting you, but that he had no choice. She authored the bullshit.

At least he was respectful and tried to do the job even if he didnt go along with it. Rice supports and probably help make the lies.
Dishonorable Scum
17-11-2005, 20:55
On the one hand, Rice is an extraordinarily intelligent woman who was able to rise up from humble beginnings. She is now the most powerful black woman in the history of the United States, and possibly the entire world. At the time she was born, most people would have told you that it was impossible that a woman could rise to such power - and it was practically unthinkable that it could be possible for an African-American. And yet, there she is, and some people are talking about the possibility that she might rise higher yet. That's no small accomplishment.

On the other hand, she's one of the primary architects of the neoconservative foreign policy that has proven to be such a disaster for the US. And my sense of her as a person is that she absolutely doesn't give a damn about anyone but herself. As long as Condi comes out ahead, it's fine with her if the rest of the world goes to hell. If I was in the same room with her, I wouldn't turn my back on her.

As for her presidential prospects, my sense is that the Republican base is not yet ready to nominate a black woman for president, no matter how solid her conservative credentials. But it would be a very smart move for the eventual Republican nominee to name her as the vice presidential candidate.

And as for Hillary becoming the Democratic nominee - ain't gonna happen. Right now I'd bet on Mark Warner, the outgoing Virginia governor. But it's way early yet.

:p
Psychotic Mongooses
17-11-2005, 20:57
On the one hand, Rice is an extraordinarily intelligent woman who was able to rise up from humble beginnings. She is now the most powerful black woman in the history of the United States, and possibly the entire world.


OPRAH!
Lunatic Goofballs
17-11-2005, 21:01
So, what is your opinion on Condoleeza Rice? Poll coming.

I think she's a parrot. A voicebox for the same people that pull Bush's strings.

Does that make her a liar? Or honest? I don't know. But I bet when she's in a room all alone, she probably plugs herself in to recharge her power supply. :p
Kazcaper
17-11-2005, 21:21
I miss Colin. Sure, he had the Bush administration utterly erode his credibility and dignity, but he just struck me as a nice person when he addressed Sweden after the death of Anna Lindh.He struck me as having an ounce of intelligence as well, something that I've not really seen much evidence for in the rest of Bush's government.