NationStates Jolt Archive


God Hates Fred Phelps

Kryozerkia
17-11-2005, 19:03
I'm sure many of you have heard of the one and only douchebag extremus, Rev,. Fred Phelps and his loyal congregation of mindless twats. T

I was bored and decided to take a look at their mindless tripe...

[link removed] ~ Do not link to that site again. for your daily dose of biggotry (the base link, just for bashing purposes).

Feel like being sick to your stomach? [link removed]Better hope you didn't have friends and family in Indiana[/url]

Or... are you like Eutrusca? Do you value your status as a vet and feel pride for serving in the American military? [link removed] Well, you're scum too, just like the "fags"[/url]

Want me to dig up more?

And yes, people, this is why many of us frown heavily upon Christianity. Yes, I know it's not a reflection of the majority, but, these assholes are the ones who speak the loudest and they are the fundies that are wrecking America.

I won't post all of their slanderous tripe. I'll leave it for you to dig up.

But if Christians were ever wondering why people didn't like them, then perhaps they ought to rally against their own kin who preach such hatred and bigotry.

Remember, these are the same people that protested at the funeral of a gay teenager who had been murdered! This is extremely unChristian and didn't Christ urge men and women, "judge not lest ye be judged"?
Economic Associates
17-11-2005, 19:04
I don't think you are allowed to post links to that site here.
Teh_pantless_hero
17-11-2005, 19:07
There is a book called Hosea? Were there Mexican prophets I am not aware of?
"Hey, its like Christ, man." [/Cheech voice]
Kryozerkia
17-11-2005, 19:08
I don't think you are allowed to post links to that site here.
I'm doing it to try and see if I can find the nice Christians here; the ones who will stand up and say that they don't believe in the message of the fundamentalists.

I also want to demonstrate in a shocking way why so many of us non-religious and non-Christian folk frown upon their religion.
My Dressing Gown
17-11-2005, 19:09
someone really needs a valium/spliff/decaff latte/blowjob
Economic Associates
17-11-2005, 19:10
I'm doing it to try and see if I can find the nice Christians here; the ones who will stand up and say that they don't believe in the message of the fundamentalists.

I also want to demonstrate in a shocking way why so many of us non-religious and non-Christian folk frown upon their religion.

Well I understand why your doing it but you have to understand thats very offensive material and there are minors on this site. Just edit out the links and you'll still be able to have that sort of discussion in the thread.
The Lordship of Sauron
17-11-2005, 19:12
Hooray, we've dug up the grave of the most extreme person alive who claims (rightly or not) the "Christian" faith.

I won't bother distancing myself from "fundamentalism", because I think the "honorable" Rev. F.P. himself has long since overshot being a mere "fundie".


To the point, however, God doesn't hate him, anymore than God hates, you know.. anyone - contrary to his pickets.
Kryozerkia
17-11-2005, 19:12
Well I understand why your doing it but you have to understand thats very offensive material and there are minors on this site. Just edit out the links and you'll still be able to have that sort of discussion in the thread.
The links are part of.

If the mods request it, I'll edit it out.

Heck, I won't even object if they do.

I'm just trying to provide material, so that when I say what I say, I don't look like I'm blowing out of my ass.
Economic Associates
17-11-2005, 19:14
The links are part of.

If the mods request it, I'll edit it out.

Heck, I won't even object if they do.

I'm just trying to provide material, so that when I say what I say, I don't look like I'm blowing out of my ass.

With mentioning things that Fred Phelps has said no one would believe your making this shit up.
Righteous Munchee-Love
17-11-2005, 19:15
"ONLY GOD'S ELECT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO BELIEVE."

Seems like a loose-loose situation for all non-christians:
Either you believe, thus getting saved by TEH MESSIAH because you already where chosen, or you don´t beöieve, so you weren´t elected (hope they have good ballots up there), so you will rot in hell.

Hm. So what´s these people´s goal? To tell everyone "You´re doomed! Nyarnyarnyar!"?
Fass
17-11-2005, 19:18
If the mods request it, I'll edit it out.

Mod ruling on the subject. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437269) I guess your links should go, then.
Tarlag
17-11-2005, 19:25
This Jerk came to my town this summer to protest our openly gay mayor and every church came out against Fred P. DO NOT liable this man as a christian or even a man of any God. He is a loon and so are every member of his so called church. He did not even have the guts to come to town himself. It was fun to watch our Mayor and his boyfriend walk hand in hand into the Catholic Church with the Priest walking with them. The protesters howled in anger as the supporters of the Mayor cheered.
Xenophobialand
17-11-2005, 19:29
To the point, however, God doesn't hate him, anymore than God hates, you know.. anyone - contrary to his pickets.

I'm not sure if God does hate anyone. I do know that if he's embarrassed by anyone, it would be a "follower" like Phelps.
Psychotic Mongooses
17-11-2005, 19:29
The links are part of.

If the mods request it, I'll edit it out.

Heck, I won't even object if they do.

I'm just trying to provide material, so that when I say what I say, I don't look like I'm blowing out of my ass.

Yeah, seriously, the mods.. *glances over shoulder*... don't normally give warnings its like *glances over shoulder again*... BLAMMO! You never existed. :D

We know who you mean, there's no need to link it.
[NS]Olara
17-11-2005, 19:32
Yeah, Phelps hates just about everything that goes on here at KU. Since his home is 20 minutes away, he's over here a lot with his crew yelling about how God hates America because of "teh gheys." I've personally been to three shows (a concert, a drama, and a dance troupe) at the Lied Center, and there he was. I just try to cry, then laugh, then pray that God shows this guy the light. You never know, it could happen.
The Doors Corporation
17-11-2005, 19:35
I'm doing it to try and see if I can find the nice Christians here; the ones who will stand up and say that they don't believe in the message of the fundamentalists.

I also want to demonstrate in a shocking way why so many of us non-religious and non-Christian folk frown upon their religion.

You are an utter douche bag with crap for brains. There have already been two or three other threads in the past THREE days where you could have seen "nice Christians....who will stand up and say...". Seriously dude, if you are going to search a cave for a terrorist, search it all the way to the end, or if you are to lazy, atleast through a grenade far back there and run out.
/endrebuke

/start_happy_christian
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Well I do not believe in that, and I think I can speak for a lot of other Christians here that that stuff is utter donkey shit. Also, we as Nice Christians (NC) can not really do anything to stop our bigger bad brothers who spew hate and steal money.
N Y C
17-11-2005, 19:38
I'm waiting for someone to post the crazy trading spouses lady pic.:D

UNGODLY!
DEMONS!
TAROT CARDS!!

GARGOYLES!!!!
Constitutionals
17-11-2005, 19:43
I'm sure many of you have heard of the one and only douchebag extremus, Rev,. Fred Phelps and his loyal congregation of mindless twats. T

I was bored and decided to take a look at their mindless tripe...

for your daily dose of biggotry (the base link, just for bashing purposes).

Feel like being sick to your stomach? Better hope you didn't have friends and family in Indiana[/url]

Or... are you like Eutrusca? Do you value your status as a vet and feel pride for serving in the American military? Well, you're scum too, just like the "fags"[/url]

Want me to dig up more?

And yes, people, this is why many of us frown heavily upon Christianity. Yes, I know it's not a reflection of the majority, but, these assholes are the ones who speak the loudest and they are the fundies that are wrecking America.

I won't post all of their slanderous tripe. I'll leave it for you to dig up.

But if Christians were ever wondering why people didn't like them, then perhaps they ought to rally against their own kin who preach such hatred and bigotry.

Remember, these are the same people that protested at the funeral of a gay teenager who had been murdered! This is extremely unChristian and didn't Christ urge men and women, "judge not lest ye be judged"?

When ever I see that website, I feel ashamed to be a Christian (well, ashamed of some of my fellow Christians).

When I saw your "god hates vets" fliers, I wished desperatly that it was a joke, than cryed because I knew it wasn't.

When I saw your "god hates indiana" link, I felt nauseus.

Speaking as a Christian with gay relatives, I do not know how the hell we, as christians, as people, condone this hatred.

I'm fine (well, ok- well, a little less than 'ok') if you choose to believe, for constitutional reasons, that my uncle should not get married. I can understand that belief, and acknowledge it. But, if my uncle ever died, thanking god for killing him- that's what I can't understand.
Equus
17-11-2005, 20:08
Kryozerkia, the nice people are trying to keep you from getting deleted. Seriously, lose the links. I don't want to lose someone who starts Canadian political threads AND votes NDP.

Come on man, take the advice.
Psychotic Mongooses
17-11-2005, 20:10
Ssshhh....
*whispers*
The mods are coming...


*slinks away*
Dread Lady Nathicana
18-11-2005, 08:31
I'm doing it to try and see if I can find the nice Christians here; the ones who will stand up and say that they don't believe in the message of the fundamentalists.

I also want to demonstrate in a shocking way why so many of us non-religious and non-Christian folk frown upon their religion.


Phelps and his ilk are freaks, and he in NO way speaks for all Christians. Please try to remember that as with any group of people, Christianity has more than it's fair share of haters and just plain Bad Folk who happen to be sadly, more vocal and visible than the more reasonable and responsible believers who don't think like this at all.

Not only that, but there's no way you can lump all Christians together under a 'their religion' blanket and expect it to fit. It doesn't. Far too many differences in all the different sects - which is again, one of the problems with misunderstandings, misinterpretations and the like which all too often lead to hate. Some groups are far more ... well, nasty than others and make no apologies for it - which I find rather reprehensible.

I grew up in a very religious family, and I've never had a problem with folks who believe differently than I do. Nor did my parents or church teach me to think that I ought to despise or 'rebuke' others for what they believed. I've had friends that are Jewish, Muslim, Bhudist, Taoist, Atheist, Agnostic, Pagan, Deist, believers in Native American spiritualism, and a plethora of different Christian faiths. And no, I don't happen to believe they're 'going to hell' because they believe differently than me, and I very much do not believe that God hates them. Quite the opposite.

Now a challenge for you, since I've answered yours:

With the obvious exceptions of hate-speech and wrongminded proselytizing that I don't expect anyone to have to accept, do you think in time you also might be able to overcome your stated bias against Christians in general, if you were able to see the good parts and people involved, rather than just the bad - and perhaps in doing so, accept that it is often the people involved who have warped the teachings for their own agendas that are the real problem, not the belief in Christ (which to me, is the basis for Christianity) itself?

Doesn't mean you have to accept their beliefs in the least. Being able to come to a mutual respect for those ones who deserve it however, could be kinda nice. :)



PS: THIS (http://www.break.com/articles/tradingspouses.html) is not a Good Example of how Christians should act, as mentioned earlier. No, no, no. Bad crazy lady. No biscuit. *whaps with a rolled-up newspaper*