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I'm an athiest myself, and i've never really looked that deep into scientology. I just watched the new episode of "South Park" were they make fun of scientology.
This is a quiky on how they expained the beliefe of scientologist...

Several million years ago, some alien had to get rid of the over population in his galaxy, so he gatherd up a bunch of aliens and flew them to earth in space ships and threw the aliens in the volcanoes of hawaii. When they died there soals roamed the earth, and today they are what cause all the poblems in the world.
Thru the whole segment, the words "This is acctualy what they belive" was displaid.
I just wanted to know, is this REALLY what they believe?!
I know the founder was a sci-fi writer, but sheesh.

They do 'believe' in rubbish like that yes, although you'd have to give them about $100,000 to get the whole story.

However, the accepted view of Scientology is that it's more of a scam than a cult. I don't think the people in charge believe in any of that stuff for real, it's all just about the money.

They do 'believe' in rubbish like that yes, although you'd have to give them about $100,000 to get the whole story.

However, the accepted view of Scientology is that it's more of a scam than a cult. I don't think the people in charge believe in any of that stuff for real, it's all just about the money.

I figured it was all about the money. Must have some serious problems to actually believe that rubbish.

I figured it was all about the money. Must have some serious problems to actually believe that rubbish.
L Ron Hubbard, whose life story really needs to be read to be believed, is quoted as saying 'If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be to start his own religion.'

Scientology... It's such a great concept. I wish I were Ron L Hubbard. When I'd made several millions dollars without working,
I'd just say "Ha-ha suckers, I fooled you" and never mention scientology again(or maybe he actually did what i just said?) . You have to admit, he's pretty smart.

Not only do i believe but i know it is a load of crap.

"Tom Cruise, you have to come out of the closet."
Best quote from the episode.



Did anybody else notice the credits?

"Tom Cruise, you have to come out of the closet."
Best quote from the episode.



Did anybody else notice the credits?

John Smith
John Smith
John Smith

etc...

"Scientology. What do they believe?"

Very close. They believe that they are the only ones who can rid you of "body Thetans," the aliens which have taken up residence in your body and who make you do weird shit.

At the top of the organization, however, what they really believe is that you're a sucker who will give them all your money to move up in their organization. :p

I figured it was all about the money. Must have some serious problems to actually believe that rubbish.

Not really. A friend of mine who works in Hollywood says there are three rules there if you want to be successful:

1) Never make fun of Scientology - you will never work again. (South Park can get away with it because they make fun of everything).

2) Befriend scientologists as they have most of the power in Hollywood.

3) If all else fails and you fear you have no better way to work in Hollywood, become a Scientolgist. You will meet enough people to get your career started.

Scientology... It's such a great concept. I wish I were Ron L Hubbard. When I'd made several millions dollars without working,
I'd just say "Ha-ha suckers, I fooled you" and never mention scientology again(or maybe he actually did what i just said?) . You have to admit, he's pretty smart.
Smart like a psychotic drug-user, which is what he really is ( was? Some say he's died and the COS has kept it secret ).

the aliens which have taken up residence in your body and who make you do weird shit.
Not the aliens, but the aliens' misguided and confused souls.

It's something about Tom Cruise coming around and beating you up.

Scientology... It's such a great concept. I wish I were Ron L Hubbard. When I'd made several millions dollars without working,
I'd just say "Ha-ha suckers, I fooled you" and never mention scientology again(or maybe he actually did what i just said?) . You have to admit, he's pretty smart.

He didn't. He died, though some say he committed suicide.

For their version of his story you can alwys go
here to find out (http://www.scientology.org/en_US/l-ron-hubbard/index.html)

I have read a lot of their site. I don't know how anyone could follow anything so ridiculous...then again, Christianity started somehow with a guy making crazy claims and people believed him...

And like the christian help program of Alcoholics Anonymous...the Scientologists created Narcanon as a tool to get former drug addicts to embrace their religion.

I have read a lot of their site. I don't know how anyone could follow anything so ridiculous...then again, Christianity started somehow with a guy making crazy claims and people believed him...

Yeah. Love your neighbour is such a crazy concept :p

Yeah. Love your neighbour is such a crazy concept :p

Not what I meant and you know it...

More like "Hey, how are you? About me? Oh, yeah, ya know, I'm the son of Yahweh, better known as, ya know, God...with a big G"

Nothing crazy sounding about that. :p

Not what I meant and you know it...

Yeah I know, just being asinine.

More like "Hey, how are you? About me? Oh, yeah, ya know, I'm the son of Yahweh, better known as, ya know, God...with a big G"

Nothing crazy sounding about that. :p

Well, IIRC from when I was forced to study the Bible, Jesus never explicitly says he is the son of God (which is why when he is bought before the Sanhedrin they have such a hard time getting a conviction).

Though that was a long time ago and I'm no Biblical scholar. Also I don't have any particular yen to search through the NT to defend the point. I can handle being wrong.

Not really. A friend of mine who works in Hollywood says there are three rules there if you want to be successful:

1) Never make fun of Scientology - you will never work again. (South Park can get away with it because they make fun of everything).

2) Befriend scientologists as they have most of the power in Hollywood.

3) If all else fails and you fear you have no better way to work in Hollywood, become a Scientolgist. You will meet enough people to get your career started.


I think your friend is exaggerating somewhat - there are a few high profile scientologists in the movie industry but that doesn't constitute 'most of the power'

Celebrity scientologists play an important pr role for the church but they don't control an industry as complicated and competitive as Hollywood.

Not really. A friend of mine who works in Hollywood says there are three rules there if you want to be successful:

1) Never make fun of Scientology - you will never work again. (South Park can get away with it because they make fun of everything).

2) Befriend scientologists as they have most of the power in Hollywood.

3) If all else fails and you fear you have no better way to work in Hollywood, become a Scientolgist. You will meet enough people to get your career started.Sounds like Scientologists are the new Masons, or Illuminati, or Justice League.

I think they're largely harmless, albeit loud. If it weren't a celibrity "religion," we would have never heard of it.

I think your friend is exaggerating somewhat - there are a few high profile scientologists in the movie industry but that doesn't constitute 'most of the power'

Celebrity scientologists play an important pr role for the church but they don't control an industry as complicated and competitive as Hollywood.

I don't know. There are the "non-celebrity" celebrities that align themselves with scientology. The heads of several studios, the CEO's of the major networks, a multitude of producers and directors.

It isn't just Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Ever wonder why none of the major network (or even the minor network) expose shows have ever done an exposing show on Scientology?

I saw that, too...

If I had been told that this was plot for the return of LEXX, I'd believe it.

Sounds like Scientologists are the new Masons, or Illuminati, or Justice League.

I think they're largely harmless, albeit loud. If it weren't a celibrity "religion," we would have never heard of it.

I don't know. They were pretty damn annoying when I lived in Florida. Driving through Clearwater at noon meant flyers being shoved into the windows of your car and people constantly inviting you to meetings and trying to discuss the positives of being a Scientologists.

I usually told them I was gay (which I'm not) or that I didn't look good in blue (the shirts their lowest members need to wear).

Ever wonder why none of the major network (or even the minor network) expose shows have ever done an exposing show on Scientology?


I assume it's because Scientology is so litigious. I can remember a few press exposes that have been done but nothing in the broadcast media.

However, I'm sure you're right that a lot of top Scientolgists hold powerful postions in the media. I mean, they've got a lot to protect.

Operation Clambake (http://www.xenu.net/) for info on scientology.

Not what I meant and you know it...

More like "Hey, how are you? About me? Oh, yeah, ya know, I'm the son of Yahweh, better known as, ya know, God...with a big G"

Nothing crazy sounding about that. :p
Dude, nothing cray about that. We are ALL sons children of God, our Loving Heavenly Father.

You should reread the old Testament a few prophets even say so. One was trying to get the people to be good and said, " Don't you know we are all the children of God?"

One of the latter books in the old Testament.